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Round 5 - Estoril - Sprint Round

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June 7th - Password entry (on day of race)

Practise: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 25 Laps (approx 40mins)

Cars allowed:
Gt3 class cars

Optional skin pack (if you have not already downloaded from round1)  https://mkurv989.stackstorage.com/s/bXprz5TFRBM9jhr (https://mkurv989.stackstorage.com/s/bXprz5TFRBM9jhr)  Courtesy of Maikel.

Track:  Autodromo do Estoril GP
http://assettocorsa.club/mods/tracks/autodromo-do-estoril.html#en (http://assettocorsa.club/mods/tracks/autodromo-do-estoril.html#en)

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 16:30
Weather: mid Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules[/quote]
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=600)

Guys, we have an issue with this track in that it can only have 24 drivers. We have 28 drivers listed now but at Monza only 19 turned up so I need to know in advance if you cant make this race. If you don't tell me and don't turn up then expect to be dropped from the follow on race. Harsh but I need to be a bit brutal for this one. I could be harsher and say new guys cant race but that wouldn't be fair if a regular doesn't turn up.
Pete has offered to sit this one out if needs be as he is still suffering with his knee, so that leaves a potential 3 only needed, so be honest if you don't think you can make it.  :hammer:

I know its a pita, but I took a chance on Zolder being released in time but it hasn't, then this was advertised as 30 pit boxes and turned out to be 24  ::)

I am just about to try out the no-chicane version to see if any better than the normal config.
edit, not convinced the no-chicane version brings anything special to the table. The chicane is clumsy (as it always was!)  but then the off camber right turn corner with a wall in the NC version isn't much fun either! So chicane stays.

Incidentally the AI manage 1:38 laptimes here so gives you a benchmark to aim for. Nice track this.  8)

I am in  :)

I'm in.

Are we doing a new version of that advert!

Suggestion to change the amount of laps/time on the opening post to prevent the server from being set up wrong.

At another place, where I raced occasionally, when they had more drivers than places those places were allocated on a first come first served basis. You got penalised if you said you'd race but didn't turn up. But you had to opt in. Getting people to sign up will save you possibly having a hard decision to make come race day when you've not got enough volunteering not to race. A deadline of Wednesday midday would give us enough time to sort the entry list file out.

Er yeah, 60mins???

Do we want to open the laps/ time debate again? ;)

As this is a sprint round the race length should be around 40 mins.

Yes sorry me bad, first post amended to 25 laps - 40 minutes  :)

And I like Petes suggestion, so this race you have to sign up (but based on normal attendance we should be fine anyway  :angel: )

I'm in  ;)

Me too

In

I'm in, Haven't D/L'ed the track yet but will probably do so later today...

Me, Gavino and Massimo will be at the start  ;)

Vda will be on the track

Also in

I can't make this one, sorry.

Sorry to hear Eck but thanks for letting us know

A taster lap showing us all how it's done  8)

https://youtu.be/EwuJb_5ca5w

I will be racing

I'm in!!!

This is my home race track. I used to be a flag marshal here :)

Nice Felix, you will enjoy the lap I posted above then  :)

I was pleased to see my lines pretty much matched the Ferrari drivers albeit he is quicker! I don't get that same sense of speed in AC that you get from that real onboard. Anyone else? I wonder if it's time for a hardware upgrade to get that sort of fps  :-\

Will be there.

Track looks a lot wider on the video!

Not easy to get the times round here, lots of hussling! race pace might be a bit different! Bit too much understeer on entry and oversteer on exit I need to try and calm down a bit. Mediums just not working at all for me now so will be going softs. Definitely feel a bit out of position in the times!

Not sure why people haven't practised it yet?

But strangely my Monza setup seems to be a good base.

It's a tricky track to set up for as it has almost every kind of corner from slowest to fast plus some off camber turns, a real long straight and a bumpy surface in places  :eek:
A good challenge  :) Nobody has matched the AIs times around here yet  :o

Try to play with FOV angle. I am use 67 in 37" FHD TV.  :)

I have a triple screen setup. My rigs a bit old now tbh. It's a 770gtx card on a 5yr old i5 motherboard. Could do with more oomph. Changing hardware is the easy bit it's re installing umpteen gigs of data and configuring everything that puts me off .

 :yes: :yes: This track looks amazing in VR, the elevation changes are brilliant. Pretty slow, spending too much time gazing at the scenery. Ps @ MJ the GTX770 will run VR.

I would like to try VR out before I bought it to make sure it doesn't give me motion sickness. No idea if there is somewhere that sells them that lets you try it. Plus I bet they are uncomfortable on a hot sweaty evening!

I'm in for this race :)

I tried VR the other month and it made me feel really sick and light headed so a bit reluctant to go for it myself.

Just noticed the server description says round 4 where its actually round 5. Not sure if it makes any difference but thought I would say just in case.

Took about a week to get used to VR, after that no probs, would be hard to go back to monitor now.

I really want to have a go with a decent set.
I've a couple of games that would be amazing with it.
My biggest issue at present is the price though - too many things are more important for me :(

I noticed the source link goes to RD site with a version 0.7.9? Which one is to  be used?
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/aut%C3%B3dromo-do-estoril.4681/history (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/aut%C3%B3dromo-do-estoril.4681/history)

That link is to a version created by someone else and is not as good as the one in my original link.

Still not got a decent setup together for this track. The bumpy surface and variety of corners make me think a softer setup is the way to go yet when I try softer springs the car is all over the place  :-\
I watched Gavinos laps and he just had much better turn in front grip which looked like a soft front end.

Interesting that nobody has matched the ai times  :o

Hope to make this one :)

Ohh guys. Unfortunately , a track surface of this mode is so bad after done some more tests. ((( BMW's transmission going to damage . Lost gears when driving over the bumps..  I tryed to do some clear laps and not sucess.. In each of laps suspension is out.. Gearing is not possible and car goes slow this moments a half seconds when i trying to find a gear pressing paddles... Anyone in other cars can confirm this things?
Track surfaces is mostly biggest problem when trying to convert tracks from other sims. So, surface needs to build from 0 here but this kind off professional hard work is not possible for most of amateur modder's guys... 

Not had any problems in the McLaren. I was on last night and lapping away with 5 or 6 others and I didn't see any problems.

Hm.. strange things. May be BMW only has this damage issue here..

So are you getting damage check and actual physical damage to your car over the bumps?

I have already done a few laps (51 ;D) laps and I had no problems with the Porsche.

Baikal, have you tried raise the ride height and increase the suspension travel?

What times is the AI doing?

Will try some later. i have RH 65 on both.. Not minimum.. I see in my vids that cluch is pressed this moments but i used manual clutch. Will be some test with autoclutch also.

Yes, I found that its not grounding out on the track, but hitting the bump stops, increase your suspension travel, plus raise the ride height. I'm running near 68/72mm ride height. Yes its high, used for Monza but helps with the large kurbs round here.

1:38's Felix  :o have even seen Ai cars on hards doing 1:40  :o. I can only manage 41's on softs so far  :'(

Not had any damage reports on my laps  ??? Other than when I stuff it into the Armco  :-[

No . No damage indication here. Simply i can't to change gears due clutch is continuesly pressed...

I'm running much higher too, around 63-65mm high for the saw tooth kerbs and odd bump. How do you know how to set bump stop heights/suspension travel? Never got my head around that last option in the garage menu

hahahaha ))) All of my problems is clutch axle in pedals.. Pressed noisly by itself ))) Need some maintenance. I hope will done it  to race time

Probably because it's a mod track and the AI line is not really realistic.


btw: I noticed also some strange setup behaviour. When I'm driving offline my rear ride height is at 62mm, but when I'm changing to the online server with the same setup (also same weather, temperature and time of day settings) my car is suddenly 8mm lower and I need to adjust my setup ??? ??? Anybody else experienced this?

It's normal. Because the pit positions elevations changes. Known AC pit future .  Online-offline yours pit place is different usualy  :)
PS. My clutch problem is solved- it was bad electrical contact in internal jack. I am using G27 Hall sensor\ magnetoresistors mode made bymyself. No potenciometers here.  :)  

 ;D ;D ;D  I'm having problems with the pit crew not able to reach the filler cap for refuelling hope I don't run out.

HAHAHA I thought my team had hired a crew of Dwarfs for this round  ;D

Mhh, ok. Never noticed that before tho.

I've just had some wierd issues after a windows update - the PC appears to be back up and running for now, but I'm suspicious at the moment.
If I'm suddenly unavailable I'll give what notice I can, although it will probably not be enough if it falls over just before the race  :(



My pit crew are normal sized - all except the guy who stands infront who must be about 2 foot tall  ;D

So far I only have 15 confirmed names for tomorrow's race. If you have not done so already please state your intention to race tomorrow as there are only 24 slots.
I think we will have enough based on previous turnouts but Pete can't put all 28 names on the driver entry file.

I realise some do not read these race threads but that's their responsibility to at least check in once and a while. :hammer:

Good turn out on the practise server this eve. Gavino gave us mortals a master class in how to be quick in the lambo and porker  :notworthy:

Tried out my setup from misano, a softer setup using mediums as i'm nervous about running softs and finishing, but setup felt too soft and was a sec plus slower than i've done. Guess 'm going to have to be gentle during the race!

Intending to race.

Never driven it before in any other sim, but i really like the Estoril lay-out.
I was a second faster on softs but it looks like they are done have way race distance, so i think i will go with the safe option.

Okay after hearing back from a couple more drivers we have our 24 car list for tonight's race.

Not racing are Eck, Tim S, Greg D and Thomas B.

Just had my first go here at the cart track in midget land.  ;D

Pretty good track, some tricky corners and it looks pretty good. It even gives midgets a chance at being a pritcrew, go equal rights  8)

Probably have to go with softs for the race, as Godzilla just don't roll with the mediums in all these corners.

Ah well, we'll see tonight  ;D

That sounds like the crew from a boyband.

I will probably be in, space permitting.

Jeff, why we are not see you laptime? Are you in?
I am just tryed to kill my wheel of crazy old dog on server  ;D

Wow faster than Gavino in the old Z4  :o nice pace  :thumbup1:

It's because Gavino and other italian bullets  not using soft till official qualy   :D
Onboard lap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqCNzJLkFvM&feature=youtu.be

Because I haven't done a lap yet  :P

Nice to see you are taking the series seriously  ;) bet you've done 500 laps offline  ;D

don't forget to remove my name from the list from all races now.

if someone wants to race i would hate to stop them by taking up a slot..

Thought you were taking the Porsche rest of the season?  We have enough spaces tonight anyway if you still wanted to race.

Cant race tonight as im currently in the middle of making tea.. i might race spa tho. :)

is there a server?

That race was alot more fun then I thought it would be.

Opted for the softs since the Nissan seems to handle worn out tyres pretty well. Start was slow as always, got passed by two Porsche right away I think. Then the first half of the lap it was 2 - 3 wide, pretty hectic.
Was chasing Pagin after that for a few laps until I bumped into him, though it only spun myself out  8)
Caught back up to Nfsw and Alexy and Pagin again. Lots of close battles, difficult to overtake on this track though. Best spot was ofcourse the straight but as the tyres went a little bit I just couldn't get those last 2 corners right so I could utilize the Nissans speed. Oh well, not a dull moment in this race  ;D

Replay : https://mkurv989.stackstorage.com/s/tx7RjxgLJooXA4O

Sorry for the "bump moment", I don't think I was running particularly slow there, if so, once again, Im' sorry for that!
I also collided With Mark on the 1st lap, sorry about that as well but you made that corner super slow ( a mistake maybe ? ) and I couldn't stop in time.
Pretty upset about Stephan W. though, 23rd lap out of 25, he went super wide into the 2nd corner; i just made the normal racing line there since as I said he went very wide, and then he just turned into me full gas, making me lose 3 positions... most probably not intentional, but come on..

Well, another terrible race and a night to forget. The McLaren is so unpredictable and two races in a row I've had snap oversteer, spitting me off the track and dropping me to last. Running in 17th and losing 2 seconds a lap to the car in front is not fun and not where I should be. Wished I'd stuck with the Nissan now. To be honest losing interest and not scoring any points is killing the fun for me.

It was a race like a blast. No words else- so tired . Thanks all pilots who was around me. Not thanks to Kunos for MP car behavior issue.. I cant tell Kunos about it cause bad english but still hope that any good guy will report to Kunos this f.g bad bad BAD bug...
 :)
I dont remember the track which is more hard to drive with no relacs in 40 min ))) Great crazy track. And very good mode. Thanks Mitia Bonka and Mark for choice.  :)

trust me, its known about and they are looking into it.

Ahh great info Chris! You are only one who tell me about " they looking into it"...I have many guys who confirmed and hate this bug which is ruining our races and AC's fun . But i dont see topic about it in Kunos site. May be its time to open it? It's main issue of AC for me.. I hate kunos this moments when cant drive same way like in my local server and offline.. IMHO its beguns when they was implemented new alghorythm of online car smoothing..  And it's depends of pilots amount in server, also ping and may be server's client poll settings..

To Pag, No mistake, just cold medium tyres and taking it sensible on first lap with a full grid around me, as I hoped others would  ::) it will be going to the moderators as I said last time I got punted off on lap 1 that in future it would result in penalties. Sorry, I know it's not intentional,  but I practised a lot to get a top 10 grid slot so it's very annoying to get knocked off on lap 1 again.  :( it also ruined my race as I got aero damage and lost top speed.  :'(. I had the pace to fight nsw in 9th  :hammer:

Shame that, but a great grid of cars on a great challenging circuit.  8) The full pack of race liveried cars looked uber cool on lap 1.
I had fun recovering from the back of the grid with some good overtakes and a great battle with Bobs monster Nissan  :fencing: whilst two fezzas of spanner and Sutol nipped at my heels. Great stuff.
Was annoyed with myself late on when I made a couple of small errors that allowed Spanner past but thankfully Simon did likewise even later to gift me a spot  :)

Congrats to Gavino and the podium  :thumbup1: and thanks to all that raced.

Well then sorry but you were taking that too easy IMHO, I took that corner with a small lift every lap, I brake quite a bit on the 1st and still bumped into you, even though you were a couple cars in front..
I just checked the replay, when I hit you i was nearly 10 kph down on the speed I had during that corner for the whole race, braked as soon as I saw you were slower there, and still bumped hard on you, while you are making that sound like I just dived hard into the corner..I didn't and I'm truly sorry for hitting you, but first I also damaged my front splitter with that and second I really think you were taking it too easy there, with me decently close behind and not much time to react..

Note the lap and time in the replay and report in the incident report section on here. I don't want people being bashed off without consequence - to make them think twice next time.

Your welcome  :) I liked the track too, a technical challenge and seems many had some good racing again.

Yes , i see that Stephan W  :o was something like incorrect to others during they lapped him. It was very dangerous for all 3 cars here who was around .. Hi wasn't have any real battle but continued to stay on track very close to guys lapped him in they's very hard real battle.. I am in hope and sure that hi will check and correct his behavior next rounds  :)

Unfortunately it was definitely not my night.
During the third flying lap in quali, when I was on a path for the 38.0 in the second sector I suddently lost the feedback on my wheel, so I had to left the server, trying to unplug and replace the usb, but nothing happened. My wheel was seemingly dead :censored: :death:
I resorted to the last hope restarting my pc, and luckily that led to the rebirth of my G25, and with 1 min and 20 secs to go, I was quite ready to go.  ???

Despite a good start and some great head to head with Jeff during the first three corners, on the braking of the fourth corner I was a bit overambitious, forcing Jeffrey to widen his line to avoid my car. We had a light 'exchange of paints', so I decided to lift up the gas a bit and let him pass again. Great mistake  ;D ;D

Jeff seemed very comfortable with his softs, but I was keeping the pace for at least one lap and a half, then I made a little mistake, losing contact with Massimo and Jeff a bit. In the attempt to recover the gap I was doing some very bad laptimes, forcing too much lap after lap... really counterproductive strategy. When the gap went above the 3 seconds I had to restart my brain.  ::)

My pace became very good and my laptimes were sometimes better than the guys in front, so I hoped at least that Jeff' soft would have caused him some issues during the last laps, and have a chance for a final assault. That was not going to happen  ;D
After another small mistake I've lost another second, and with a few laps to the checkered flag my hopes were more feeble lap after lap.
In the end Jeff's tyres probably did abandon him, but it was too late... time up!

I've lost the train too early in this race and I'm bothered by the fact that it could have been another cracking race like in Misano cause I had the pace to fight until the end for the podium. A bad result for me, but the fight for the second/third place of this champ is thrilling.

As ever, Massimo will not leave a commen on this thread but he thanks Jeff for the great duel. I was in TS with him and Gavino and after the race he said us: "When Jeffrey passed me, I put the heart in the attempt to take back my position, and this time I wouldn't let him to be placed in front of me."
It's very difficult to pass this guy when he feels like this. He is a bit competitive by his nature :D

Grats to Gavino, Massimo, Jeff and to all finishers. Is always good to read that people had some fun during the race. What a pity I can't just say the same  ::) ::)

See you for the next  ;)

Decided just before the race that I could either go for mediums and drive around for 40 minutes in no man's land, or risk softs and see how they go.
Due to bit of a messy openingings lap I didn't really capitalize on my softs and I stayed where I started.

Was able to stay with Massimo, but I never really had the idea I could overtake him. My last sector wasn't good so the gap was too big on the main straight. Guess my Monza setup could have used some extra tweaks :D.

I was waiting for the softs to go, but they were actually fine till 3 laps before the end. By that time the rear left was toast and the car became very oversteery.

Fun race for me, finally being able to hold on and not drive around alone, eventhough I needed a softer compound to achieve that  :P

I checked the replay about this, and it was typically AC. There was hardly any contact, but during the race it sounded like a huge impact. So no worries, nothing happened :).


What I didn't get, at some point I felt like he let me past. He didn't accelerate coming out of a corner and as soon as I went by, he followed me. I thought he might attack me to slow me down so that Matteo could close the gap. Few laps before the end my car went into drift mode and he past me again, but again he didn't drive away and seemed to be slower than normally through corners. I thought I was stuck in a tactical VDA strategy  ;D

Guys on the results page at the bottom of page is an incident report button. Watch the replay and note time of any incident and report it. A moderator will not watch the whole race replay to find your incidents. It's a clean efficient process.  :)
To SRW - use more caution/less aggression when you are being lapped. You don't have to leap out the way but you should still let them past cleanly and safely.

I didnt see it, but i can imagine the situation.. and i can understand the irritation.. but! If you see someone going wide then imo you have to drive considering every eventuality, if you just keep driving normally its the chance you take that they may take you out.

I can assure you that I always exploited Massimo as a faithful squire during our italian champs with Power & Glory ;D but in this champ we have no team strategy at all, and if I had catched him I would have fought like there was no tomorrow ;D
The fact that you find so often between us is saving us by some spectacular crash instead. So I must thank you twice Jeff ;D

Onboard from the middle. First 4 laps and last 3 laps is a thing  :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVX_IMVb-gg

In that case, I will leave you 2 fight next time and overtake you when you both end up in the gravel  ;D

Had almost no practice time, and I was even slower than usual.
Had tried med tyres, but forgot to swap back to softs for the start, and so was struggling
with grip. I thought the version without that daft chicane near the end would have been
a better choice, it's like that insane chicane after the star at Monza. Just my opinion.
Was spinning too easily so quit after taking damage.

 ;D  Even with all the mistakes I make on a Wednesday evening the racing just gets better and better. Thanks to all, had another great evening on SROUK.

Glad you are enjoying it Bob,  :). I had great fun chasing and harrassing your meaty Nismo in my albeit wounded Porsche. I was trying every line and angle to get past and then you would just steam off down the straight  :surrender:
That's why I like a good variety of cars on track  :) each has its own character and strengths.

Made a big mistake picking this car but will stay with it, the only place I could compete was the last corner and onto the start/finish straight, gaining enough gap to enable me to block the whole lap, disappointed to be tapped around by following car just after you managed to get by but that's racing. Lost all momentum then and had a spin but great fun all the same.

Maybe Maikel has some tips for you Bob?

Great race yesterday.

During the qualifying session I've tried to improve my best lap but I've forced too much. The result is 0.2s slower. Fortunately was enough to gain the pole position.

The race was very interesting in the first laps.
We saw soft tyres for jeffrey and I've informed the team that the first lap would be the most important lap of the race.
In the second turn I choosed to make a defensive line. Jeffrey makes a little mistake and this was the key of the race.
After this I've slowly increased the distance between me and other drivers until the chequered flag.

Congratulations to everyone allow us to have fun every Wednesday.
See you in the next race!

Yeah, whatever you do, DON'T pick the Nissan  :P

I could send you my setups but I don't know if they'll help much. Can't get the car to do what I want no matter what I change. Too much understeer, not as snappy as the other GT3's. Only thing I found was setting the powercoast to its lowest, that pretty much gets rid of most of the oversteer.

Only thing I like so far bout the Nissan is the brakes. Their pretty good and the car automatically wants to throw its rear into the corner. Pretty helpful in those slower hairpins.

 :thumbup2: Thank you Maikel will try that, I'm not a fast driver as it, the Nissan I found a hard car to turn in the corners at Estoril, but I'm sure it will have advantages at other tracks.

you Nismo drivers should be happy next round...Paul Ricard the power circuit  8)

#makenissangreatagain

You should try the McLaren, the brakes are dire. By the way, my real car has the same brakes as the R35 GTR  ;D

What McLaren are you using then  :o? It brakes on a dime, but that may also be because it's so slow in a straight line  ;D

Does anyone have a replay of this event they could post up somewhere?
Thanks in advance

Maikels link on page 5 Matt about 5 posts from bottom of page