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July 03, 2017, 08:41:36 PM +0100 - Indianapolis (Oval) - UKGTL Season 17 Mustang Boss 302 Challenge
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Shelby Boss 302 (#99) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.484
146.763mph
1 49:55.164
131.960mph
44 1:01.326
146.476mph
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 Kerb Crawlers
Shelby Boss 302 (#16) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.574
146.548mph
2 +22.251
130.987mph
44 1:01.244
146.672mph
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Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Shelby Boss 302 (#70) GTC-TC-76 1 1:00.722
147.933mph
3 +35.039
130.435mph
44 1:00.965
147.344mph
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Bob M.
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Shelby Boss 302 (#27) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.187
145.097mph
4 +1:04.726
129.169mph
44 1:01.976
144.940mph
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Shelby Boss 302 (#40) GTC-TC-76 10 +1.816
143.637mph
5 +1L
127.189mph
43 1:02.157
144.518mph
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Shelby Boss 302 (#302) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.199
145.069mph
6 +2L
124.878mph
42 1:02.142
144.553mph
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Shelby Boss 302 (#45) GTC-TC-76 12 +2.475
142.140mph
7 +3L
121.016mph
41 1:03.408
141.667mph
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Shelby Boss 302 (#100) GTC-TC-76 11 +2.046
143.111mph
8 +4L
119.123mph
40 1:03.180
142.178mph
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138.178mph
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113.204mph
38 1:06.225
135.641mph
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145.732mph
10 +24L 20 1:01.645
145.718mph
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Shelby Boss 302 (#83) GTC-TC-76 7 +1.516
144.330mph
11 20 1:02.660
143.358mph
fuel
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55steve55
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144.038mph
12 20 1:02.584
143.532mph
fuel
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SpecialKS
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143.957mph
13 +26L 18 1:02.922
142.761mph
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« on: November 27, 2016, 05:45:42 PM +0000 »

Championship standings HERE

Grid/server capacity: 22

Track: Indianapolis Oval Download this

Cars allowed: Shelby Mustang Boss 302 Download this

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (44 laps, 1 rolling, 43 racing)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: ROLLING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: 2x

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(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
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Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
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If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.


Special Notes: Rolling start procedure will be implemented for this race. See below for details.

1) When qualifying ends drivers will join the grid as usual, before the timer countdown ends.

2) At the green light the pole position driver (lead driver) will be responsible for moving off with limiter ON.

3) The remaining drivers will follow the driver in front of them forming a SINGLE FILE formation.

4) The lead driver will maintain limiter speed (limiter may be switched off) until the start line is reached. Having crossed the start line the lead car will begin race speed.

7) Following drivers may not exceed limiter speed (lead drivers speed) or attempt any overtaking until the start line is crossed.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2017, 06:50:20 PM +0100 »

IMPORTANT

This event has been revised. Please read the race announcement for details.
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2017, 11:39:52 PM +0100 »

IMPORTANT

This is a very fast track and in certain circumstances e.g. pitting in/pitting out, a bad scenario could happen.

To help prevent this drivers are asked to consider the following guidance.

PIT IN - You should enter the pit in lane after T4. You may message your intention to pit in before T3.

PIT OUT - You should leave the pits and follow the track around. Do not join the racing track until after T2. You may message your intention to pit out at T2.

I am grateful to Bob for passing on this useful information.  thumbup1

Probably a good idea to practice the above  yes
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2017, 06:26:53 AM +0100 »

IMPORTANT

This is a very fast track and in certain circumstances e.g. pitting in/pitting out, a bad scenario could happen.

To help prevent this drivers are asked to consider the following guidance.

PIT IN - You should enter the pit in lane after T3 and before T4. You may message your intention to pit in before T3.

PIT OUT - You should leave the pits and follow the track around. Do not join the racing track until after T2. You may message your intention to pit out at T2.

I am grateful to Bob for passing on this useful information.  thumbup1

Probably a good idea to practice the above  yes

No Tony ! In real races the Pit in is on start straight after Turn4 and Pit out is on counter straight there is a natural line for do it. Please, you have put the right rule for safety or here become a mess ! If one no respect this rules it s right put a penalty. You need to be tough on this point. Entry or go out to the track between T1 T2 or T3 T4 is very dangerous. This operations on straights is OK.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2017, 09:08:46 AM +0100 »

Anyone else have a view on this?
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2017, 12:52:06 PM +0100 »

With my ( very ) limited experience of ovals I am happy to abide by whatever you more experienced guys decide regarding pitstops. My pitstop will go horribly wrong as always, so I am quite likely to be emerging amongst the faster cars at some point.

But, I do have one question about the start .....

7) Following drivers may not exceed limiter speed (lead drivers speed) or attempt any overtaking until the start line is crossed.

 If one is at the rear of the grid, running in single file, when the lead car crosses the S/F line (and effectively starts racing) do we have to sit on our limiters until we get our cars to the line, whilst the leaders are running away full speed for several seconds?
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are we allowed to "give it beans" as soon as the lead car crosses the S/F line and accelerates?


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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2017, 01:04:17 PM +0100 »

7) Following drivers may not exceed limiter speed (lead drivers speed) or attempt any overtaking until the start line is crossed.
 If one is at the rear of the grid, running in single file, when the lead car crosses the S/F line (and effectively starts racing) do we have to sit on our limiters until we get our cars to the line, whilst the leaders are running away full speed for several seconds?
or
are we allowed to "give it beans" as soon as the lead car crosses the S/F line and accelerates?
You go as fast as the car in front of you until you cross the line.
Pole sitter sets the pace and everyone else follows his lead.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2017, 01:40:41 PM +0100 »

The pole man has just a problem about rolling start, it s the start line because is not easy see well it.
I hope to not take the pole here for this reason, start second or third is better, also because I think that the pitstop will decide this race
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2017, 01:52:58 PM +0100 »

The pole man has just a problem about rolling start, it s the start line because is not easy see well it.
I hope to not take the pole here for this reason, start second or third is better, also because I think that the pitstop will decide this race

As long as he's reasonably close to it, I don't see it as a problem if he doesn't hit the mark exact - the race is already on, so no false start and no S/G because of it.  The pole man (who will surely be you  Wink) just decides when & where the race starts.

Haven't looked at the track yet, so can't comment on the pit in/out procedure.  Do have a question though:  Is it clear cut which turns are T1, T2 etc ?   Remember being quite confused about this on our first oval outing.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2017, 02:12:39 PM +0100 »

Sorry I was wrong on the pit enter, It is as Ziu says after turn 4.   I ran a race last nite offline and fuel was very close with the PLR set up at 2X, and only 1 pit stop, or are we supposed to make 2 stops?  After 20 laps on the first tank, I filled and ran out just before the S/F at the end.  With the added lap at the start maybe not make it on 1 stop.  Sorry about giving Tony bad info, MY BAD!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2017, 04:05:59 PM +0100 »

Haven't looked at the track yet, so can't comment on the pit in/out procedure.  Do have a question though:  Is it clear cut which turns are T1, T2 etc ?   Remember being quite confused about this on our first oval outing.

Indy is a bit different to other ovals because it has short straights between T1 & T2 & between T3 & T4 so should not be a problem.

Fuel sounds like it could be interesting, go flat out & make 2 stops or take it a little easier & only do one stop!
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2017, 04:16:33 PM +0100 »

The pole man has just a problem about rolling start, it s the start line because is not easy see well it.
I hope to not take the pole here for this reason, start second or third is better, also because I think that the pitstop will decide this race

As long as he's reasonably close to it, I don't see it as a problem if he doesn't hit the mark exact - the race is already on, so no false start and no S/G because of it.  The pole man (who will surely be you  Wink) just decides when & where the race starts.

Haven't looked at the track yet, so can't comment on the pit in/out procedure.  Do have a question though:  Is it clear cut which turns are T1, T2 etc ?   Remember being quite confused about this on our first oval outing.

Cheers,
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The starting line is that formed by bricks, the problem is that the line is very thin and the banner on the finish line is missing.

I raced only 2 times  at Indy in GCMCL, Race 1 in qualy i was third and i won the race with an overtake on opposite straight at last lap. Race 2 i start from last place on the grid becasue the rule was that pudium race1 not could join to qualy 2 and i won race 2 also. There was Bob also, i dont know if he remeber it.
But this story is just to say that at Indy the qualy position not is important.

At Darlington qualy was important because is a little complicated overtake, the straights are most short than Indy straight and mostly the Turn 2 not easy, you think that i had one setup for qualy, and one for race own because Turn2 was different too much different without fuel or with fuel.

Instead if you can have an output very fast from Turn 2 and Turn 4, you can overtake for sure.


Now the problem is that in GCMCL i was driving Barracuda and was very good the input on the corner, but Boss302 is more understeering so not is easy find a good setup. I m not still satisfied i have a goal on my time lap and it missing 0,2 seconds to get it.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2017, 07:11:42 PM +0100 »

IMPORTANT

Post regarding pit in/out procedure now revised.

Number of laps increased to 44 (1 rolling, 43 racing)
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2017, 09:41:40 AM +0100 »

Did a few laps last night, biggest issue seems to be engne health. I was losing about 1% per lap or maybe two laps
Make sure you have a big number for health at the start, or you may not finish however well you drive.
Got down to 1:02.5 best efforts.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2017, 06:58:22 PM +0100 »


PIT IN - You should enter the pit in lane after T4. You may message your intention to pit in before T3.


I have to disagree with this, the track map on the loading screen shows the pit entry lane starting just before T3 & running around the inside of Turns 3 & 4. Driving the track this is indeed the case, the pit entry lane starts before T3. Similarly the pit exit lane runs right around until after T2. So you both enter & leave the track on the back straight.
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