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July 03, 2017, 08:41:36 PM +0100 - Indianapolis (Oval) - UKGTL Season 17 Mustang Boss 302 Challenge
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Shelby Boss 302 (#99) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.484
146.763mph
1 49:55.164
131.960mph
44 1:01.326
146.476mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Shelby Boss 302 (#16) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.574
146.548mph
2 +22.251
130.987mph
44 1:01.244
146.672mph
Goodyear  
Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Shelby Boss 302 (#70) GTC-TC-76 1 1:00.722
147.933mph
3 +35.039
130.435mph
44 1:00.965
147.344mph
Goodyear  
Bob M.
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Shelby Boss 302 (#27) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.187
145.097mph
4 +1:04.726
129.169mph
44 1:01.976
144.940mph
Goodyear  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
Shelby Boss 302 (#40) GTC-TC-76 10 +1.816
143.637mph
5 +1L
127.189mph
43 1:02.157
144.518mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Shelby Boss 302 (#302) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.199
145.069mph
6 +2L
124.878mph
42 1:02.142
144.553mph
Goodyear  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Shelby Boss 302 (#45) GTC-TC-76 12 +2.475
142.140mph
7 +3L
121.016mph
41 1:03.408
141.667mph
Goodyear  
Huggy
 
Shelby Boss 302 (#100) GTC-TC-76 11 +2.046
143.111mph
8 +4L
119.123mph
40 1:03.180
142.178mph
Goodyear  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Shelby Boss 302 (#83) GTC-TC-76 13 +4.287
138.178mph
9 +6L
113.204mph
38 1:06.225
135.641mph
Goodyear  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Shelby Boss 302 (#15) GTC-TC-76 4 +0.917
145.732mph
10 +24L 20 1:01.645
145.718mph
fuel
Goodyear  
misnoimis
 
Shelby Boss 302 (#83) GTC-TC-76 7 +1.516
144.330mph
11 20 1:02.660
143.358mph
fuel
Goodyear  
55steve55
 TEAM-GTLDK
Shelby Boss 302 (#40) GTC-TC-76 8 +1.642
144.038mph
12 20 1:02.584
143.532mph
fuel
Goodyear  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Shelby Boss 302 (#302) GTC-TC-76 9 +1.677
143.957mph
13 +26L 18 1:02.922
142.761mph
unknown
Goodyear  
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« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2017, 12:36:40 AM +0100 »

Well, I have to be happy with 5th.

It looks like my attendance may be a bit sporadic for the remainder of the season as my time both to race and practice has become somewhat restricted due to work. Tonight in qualy was the 1st time I had driven the track in anger and even then I only managed to join with about 8 minutes to go so was very surprised not to line up at the rear of the grid.

About all I knew was I was going to need 2 pit stops (I assumed for both fuel and tyres). As the race progressed but unfortunately after my 1st stop it became apparent that a full race on a single set of tyres just might be possible so just took fuel at the 2nd stop which saved me a bit of time. Had a good tussle with Clive early on but was caught out by his entry into 1 of the turns and swiped the barrier quite hard taking evasive action and the steering was never quite right after that going from slight under steer to over steer with little warning, but nothing I couldn't live with so pressed on. Jumped Clive at the pit stop and had quite a lonely race for the last 3rd of the race lapping a few and also being lapped myself. Only positions gained were due to passing people when they pitted. But for all of that I do like ovals, I try not to but have to admit I've had some of my best races on them.

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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2017, 05:58:43 AM +0100 »

Grotty night for me. Drove into the back of a sporadically lagging Huggy, car flipped over and I slid along the track on my roof for ages. Then after my first pit stop I received a pit lane speeding penalty  taz


Ooo-er wasn't aware of my lagging Tony, sorry. Weirdly, your flip was visible in my mirror, about half a straight back, and was puzzled as to what happened! How the heck does that work? Huh?.   As to my race, would have finished one place up, but for putting too little fuel in on my second pit stop, otherwise I thought it went pretty well.

Yes I too noticed a large lag once huggy!

I too had an over speed in the pit stop but on my first attempt to carry it out my pit crew were either asleep or hidden behind Geoff's car, so I had to go around once more to make a successful penalty stop at the second attempt. Huh
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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2017, 08:59:41 AM +0100 »

I have never had a great deal of experience on Ovals, so I struggle to find get setups to work.  During qually, and even through the race, I was discovering ways to chip tenths off of my time as I experimented with rolling off and on to the gas pedal and various turn in points.

Before the race started I knew that pitstops would be the low point. I had done zero research or planning on what would be required, relying on Erling's warning that it was impossible to complete the race without a stop. It was obvious during qually that the front right tyre was going to be subject to a lot of abuse and might need some attention, but the rears? hmmmm maybe they might survive?

So I started the race with a full tank and planned to "wait and see" what was needed. The rolling start was eventful and a few cars ahead lost tail lights and a layer of paint, it was all quite confusing to those of us a little further back in the field. But as we crossed the strip normal service was resumed and for the first laps I was able to tag along behind oldgeezer until I missed my turn in at T1 and performed a safety test on the concrete wall at the exit. The rebound sent me onto the pit exit lane road and lost me some ground.
All went well until lap 19 when I had to make my first stop. Fumbled over the pit board and wasted precious seconds as I opted for safety and changed the front tyres, along with another full tank.
The next stint was quite lonely but I was able to improve my line at various corners, although I was frustrated that I seemed unable to stitch a full lap together. After all, there are only 4 corners and they are all left handers!!!. how difficult can that be???

Another 19 laps and a moment of indecision at the pit entry ( I wondered if I could squeeze another lap) and some over heavy braking caused me to lose the rear end and hit the inner pit wall and stall the engine. The frantic pit stop that followed highlighted my lack of preparation. I loaded far too much fuel and managed to fit new front tyres even though I felt that I had enough rubber to get to the flag.

Far too long in the pits on both stops dropped me back, but my result was probably better than I was expecting before the race as I was not confident of even finishing.
Grats to Erling and the usual 3 front runners. The pace you guys were posting is a total mystery to me. A second a lap does not sound like much. but on these ovals that is a lifetime. I felt that on many laps I was on the very limit of what I could achieve with the setup I was running.

So if we are going to run more ovals I might need to do some serious homework!!!
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« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2017, 01:12:31 PM +0100 »

After the pre-race discussion about fuel, this ended up being a race about tyres. I had several tactics in mind, even thought about how slow I would have to go to save enough fuel to make only one stop, but didn't have time to try them out.

The rolling start saw a slight altercation as Ziu slowed to engage speed-limiter I got caught out & bumped Erling & then Matt bumped me & I nearly spun. Fortunately I was able to regain my place in the line & set off after Ziu & Erling. Plan was to stop early & top off the fuel avoiding any mid-race rush for the pits & then fill up & change tyres at the second stop. Plan worked great except Erling out-thought all of us & didn't change tyres  Roll Eyes.

Nearly had one nasty moment when Huggy's car froze & I hit it, luckily it vanished at that moment too so just had a slight jolt. Caught Huggy again near the end so eased the pace the last 3 laps & drove on the parts of the track Huggy wasn't using in case it happened again.

Congrats to Erling & Ziu & all finishers.  clap clap clap

I'm going to miss the next 3 races, so see you all again for Capris at Sepang, have fun.  thumbup2
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« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2017, 02:53:30 PM +0100 »

Was rather enjoying that one. it looked like it would just do 22 laps, but at lap20 the fuel light started flashing
but I thought "Oh Tony will have planned it so it just works out at a one stopper.... wrong
car cuts out on the lap I was going to pit..  taz
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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2017, 07:01:50 PM +0100 »

Clive, if you change tyres, you might as well change all 4.  I timed pitstops in earlier events, and there's no time saved by only changing one axle - in fact, it may take longer, since you have to actively deselect those you won't have changed.

Setup wise, my setup here differed greatly from the one used for our first oval race. For that I did all sorts of experiments with asymmetrical setups, with firmer righthand side settings, but eventually only the tyre pressures were asymmetrical - all suspension settings were set as soft as possible, as that was quickest for me.

Used that as a base for this race, but quickly discovered that firming up the righthand side settings made me faster, so ended up with very soft left side and very hard right side.  When driving, I braked lightly, very deep into the corners, when coming from the long straights.  No other 'secrets' to my laptimes, but you're probably better off asking Ziu how he achieved his times..  Wink

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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2017, 08:14:47 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2017, 10:12:00 PM +0100 »

Good race for me, ran a few  full races before hand and set up a strategy and stuck to it.  Ran the same setup as Dartlington with 1 click stiffer springs on the right side.  More tinkering didn't produce anything for me so that was that.  When Tony decided on this track he ask me to test for him and I found the tires would run the whole race without a blowout no problem with my setup.  Lost about a second a lap as the race wore on towards the end, but I never have any luck with full service pitstops so decided to run the race from start to finish on the one set and just add fuel when I had to. Only excitement for me was the start when we had the accordian effect before the line and I got bumped a little and jerked the wheel a little off center causing me to bump the T1 curb a little too much.  Clive got past me when I was straightning out the wheel and tightening the clamps, but latter repast him.  Other than that just focused on hitting my marks and getting through the pitstops without any snaggs.  Grats to the podium and all that finished....  Next week is Can Ams, these cars are a little too twitchy for me and I'm always a little behind in the reflex department. 

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« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2017, 10:56:34 PM +0100 »

Thank you Kurt  thumbup1
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