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  • S31His Montjuich Park: March 05, 2017
March 03, 2017, 09:41:08 PM +0000 - Montjuïc Park - UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Historic Trophy (66)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Alessandro Isacchini
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 1 1:32.975
95.514mph
1 (+3) 48:51.778
93.900mph
31 1:33.198
95.286mph
Goodyear  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 3 +1.020
94.478mph
2 +34.354
92.813mph
31 1:33.588
94.889mph
Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 5 +1.428
94.070mph
3 +34.497
92.808mph
31 1:34.423
94.050mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 11 +3.765
91.797mph
4 +1L
90.417mph
30 1:36.420
92.102mph
Firestone  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 14 +4.829
90.798mph
5 +43.100
89.114mph
30 1:37.493
91.088mph
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 13 +4.713
90.906mph
6 +1:08.638
88.359mph
30 1:37.445
91.133mph
Firestone  
Walter Conn
 REV
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 17 +8.104
87.857mph
7 +2L
87.571mph
29 1:37.348
91.224mph
Firestone  
philippe GIRARD
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 18 +8.823
87.236mph
8 +57.320
85.896mph
29 1:39.860
88.929mph
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 16 +5.763
89.940mph
9 +14L
88.386mph
17 1:38.578
90.086mph
Disco
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 12 +4.638
90.976mph
10 +15L
88.202mph
16 1:37.564
91.022mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 8 +2.536
92.978mph
11 +16L
91.194mph
15 1:35.857
92.643mph
Disco
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 9 +3.514
92.036mph
12 +25.090
89.654mph
15 1:36.895
91.650mph
Disco
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 15 +5.507
90.173mph
13 +17L
83.442mph
14 1:38.189
90.442mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 6 +2.024
93.479mph
14 +21L
91.399mph
10 1:35.063
93.417mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lotus 33 (BRM) F1 1966 4 +1.045
94.453mph
15 +26L
90.320mph
5 1:35.059
93.420mph
Disco
Firestone  
MagicArsouille
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 2 +0.517
94.986mph
16 +31L
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 7 +2.191
93.315mph
17
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
AndyL
 
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 10 +3.723
91.837mph
18
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 19 DNS ---
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Firestone  
4 UKGPL
 
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 19 20 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Summary
An eventful race on a very tight track. Unfortunately the provisional winner, Alessandro is demoted for a first lap incident so Iestyn emerges as the eventual winner overhauling Sam on the last lap. Fulvio makes it back onto the podium in third place as he resumes his welcome return to UKGPL.


Server replay time: 0h01m08s

Lap 1 - Exit of \"El Angulo\" - Alessandro Isacchini and Tristan Bot
Alessandro has the lead out of \"El Angulo\" but accelerates too hard on cold tyres and his car swerves left. He clips the barrier on the left side of the track, losing him time and momentum. Tristan is very close behind and he seizes the chance to overtake, keeping well to the right he comfortably out accelerates Alessandro. As Tristan pulls along side, Alessandro darts across the track making contact with Tristan\'s car. Alessandro half spins but manages to continue. Tristan slows but GPL\'s overzealous \"collision box\" decides major contact has been made and catapults Tristan into the air. Unfortunately he lands upside down and is out of the race.

What follows is the typical carnage to be expected on a tight enclosed track. All drivers showed consideration and maturity, slowing down carefully in an effort to avoid contact. Unfortunately when cars are in close proximity, even when moving slowly, GPL\'s \"collision box\" has a tendency to register catastrophic contact and on this occasion both Andrew Livingston and Dean Logan were the unfortunate victims of the GPL gods. Andrew came to rest upside down and Dean was marooned on top of the barriers. Both drivers were out of the race.

Tristan did nothing wrong. He was perfectly entitled to attempt the pass and had practically achieved 100% overlap before contact was made.

Having made the mistake, Alessandro should have been more careful. He should have realised that there might be someone attacking him and he should have left room. It is the driver\'s responsibility to ensure the track is clear before they move across. Darting across the track without being sure it is clear is not allowed.

Blatant Side-by-Side contact Penalty 2 places plus 1 extra place for lap 1 incident. - 3 places will put him down to 4th.

  • Alessandro Isacchinipenalty — Blatant Side-by-Side contact - plus 1 extra place for lap 1 incident — 3 places lost


Post Race Note: This ruling may seem harsh on Alessandro, depriving him of a maiden UKGPL victory. But with his obvious speed and skill it won\'t be long before he claims the top spot again. The rules at UKGPL are very clear and have served us well for many years. It is appreciated that drivers new to UKGPL may not be familiar with all the rules or indeed where they are published. All the rules and recommended driver behaviour are published on the UKGPL web site, www.ukgpl.com, under the Rules link below the Navigation banner.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
1:32.975
95.527mph
Alessandro Isacchini
Qualifying
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7)March 03, 2017, 09:41:08 PM +0000
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« on: February 26, 2017, 01:41:12 PM +0000 »

Season 31 Historic Trophy – Round 3 - Montjuich Park

Welcome to the third round of the Historic Trophy at Montjuich Parque, a street circuit on Montjuich mountain above Barcelona. A twisty tricky circuit, it was the site of the tragic 1975 Spanish Grand Prix. Many drivers felt that the circuit was unsafe, and two time world champion Emerson Fittipaldi withdrew in protest before the start of the race. On lap 26 the Embassy Hill-Lola car of Rolf Stommelen left the track, killing five people. The race was subsequently stopped at half distance and half points awarded, with Jochen Mass being recorded as the winner. Lella Lombardi became the first female driver to score world championship points, taking 0.5 points for 6th place. Formula One never returned to the circuit after the accident.

This race is for cars with 2 Litre engines.

Race List =  IGOR
Server = UKGPL_4 (TBC)
IP Address = look at IGOR
Race date = 05-03-2017
GPL mod = 66F1
Variant = 2 Litre
60fps patch used = 60fpsV2newmod
Track = Montjuich Park
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~50 min -> 31 laps
Damage Model = PRO
Replay = here

Password: see above

Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page

Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone.

The traditional Historics handicapping system will be used for this season with the drivers leading the championship being limited to the slower chassis.

Drivers limited to the Group I cars (T1F Eagle Climax or Lotus 33 Climax) are:
Doni Yourth and Cookie

Drivers limited to the Group I or Group II cars (T1F Eagle Climax, Lotus 33 Climax, Brabham BT11 2.5lt or Lotus 33 BRM) are:
MagicArsouille (Tristan Bot) and Evil Clive

All other drivers have a free choice.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2017, 06:05:33 PM +0000 »

I think I may give this one a miss. The historics have not been very kind in the first two races; Zolder I didn't get past t1, I wasn't quick, a little brain fade from me didn't help I admit, maybe I need to practice on how to negotiate a stationary car, I got stuck on a bank=DNF. At Pancine I was at the business end but mistakes meant another DNF, at the time I believe I was taken out, twice, but I watch the replay and see it from others POV and not necessarily all their fault Grin so I leave it, life is too short, tho a reset would of helped.
This will be a mess! pros in slow cars, ams in fast cars, no run off and no reset. Ocamon anyone? I wish you all the best of luck!  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2017, 03:57:12 PM +0000 »

The slower cars are not that much slower at Montjich. Good luck to those racing today.
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2017, 05:18:08 PM +0000 »

Practice server up.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2017, 05:30:48 PM +0000 »

This will be a mess! pros in slow cars, ams in fast cars, no run off and no reset.
It doesn't have to be!
 
I suspect Tristan could beat me in a pedal car around here.  So that fact that he is limited to a Group I or II car won't make any difference in his grid position compared to me and the rest of the "Ams".  The "Pros" will still be at the front. But hopefully it will mean we won't get lapped quite as quickly.

The handicapping just prevents the championship being a series of spec races with everyone in the fastest car and it also stops someone running away with the championship.

You are quite right about the lack of run-off and no shift-R.  We will all have to be sensible at T1 and T2 on lap 1 with cold tyres
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2017, 07:28:04 PM +0000 »

Tried in the server and unfortunaly  I see fall fps in some point of track, specially on T1, tried to lower details but with poor results
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2017, 07:48:05 PM +0000 »

Tried in the server and unfortunaly  I see fall fps in some point of track, specially on T1, tried to lower details but with poor results
It is quite a graphics intensive track.  I assume you get the same drop in FPS when testing off-line?  I'm not aware of any server settings I can change that would help.  Unless I am mistaken?
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2017, 07:54:42 PM +0000 »

Yes the falls fps happen offline also, but only near T1 and less than server, my fear is with full grid
I try to lower detalis at minimum, with only texture track and wall visible
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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2017, 08:31:45 PM +0000 »

Saw just now.. there is a lite version of track, I installed this and no fall FPS offline test, no problem in server also but there is only me on track, I am confident  laugh
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2017, 09:44:04 PM +0000 »

COMMENT REDACTED IN INTEREST OF oh, mustn't offend anyone, it's not their fault when whatever the **** happens.

Best of luck to whoever punted me onto the wall.

edit: this season is MEANINGLESS, the points are MEANINGLESS, the races are MEANINGLESS, whoever ends up winning this shitfest, guess what? You didn't win anything except a f***ing coin flip. Enjoy the rewards of your "skill" and "practice".
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2017, 10:09:46 PM +0000 »

Screen freeze in qualifying and ditto in the race from a tasty P4.  Sigh...  Sad
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2017, 10:12:38 PM +0000 »

First engine explosion of season 31.I was accustomed to a great  reliability but this time was not so.Is a shame because a sixth is not usual for me.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2017, 10:14:32 PM +0000 »

Screen freeze in qualifying and ditto in the race from a tasty P4.  Sigh...  Sad

Here also: Freeze in the race in a P6 or 7 ...
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2017, 10:17:59 PM +0000 »

No freeze but a drop of FR when with other cars.
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2017, 11:13:01 PM +0000 »

Dean, I've reduced the font in your post as it was making the thread difficult to read. If you have been involved in an incident, submit an incident report. Don't shout on the forums.

Everyone else, please submit incident reports ASAP.
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