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May 14, 2017, 09:39:47 PM +0100 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Privateers (67)
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Jeep
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Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 2 +0.684
106.157mph
1 50:33.670
105.000mph
36 1:23.425
106.062mph
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Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 1 1:22.666
107.036mph
2 +19.910
104.315mph
36 1:22.872
106.770mph
Goodyear  
AndyL
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 5 +0.881
105.907mph
3 +37.526
103.717mph
36 1:24.203
105.082mph
Goodyear  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 7 +1.351
105.314mph
4 +1:16.795
102.408mph
36 1:24.043
105.282mph
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 10 +4.054
102.032mph
5 (+1) +1L
102.037mph
35 1:23.499
105.968mph
Firestone  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +2.946
103.352mph
6 +53.205
100.279mph
35 1:25.734
103.205mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 3 +0.764
106.055mph
7 +53.565
100.267mph
35 1:23.852
105.522mph
Firestone  
Pepe Higdon
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 9 +2.967
103.327mph
8 +1:13.103
99.637mph
35 1:25.240
103.803mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 6 +1.254
105.436mph
9 +2L
98.426mph
34 1:23.247
106.289mph
Firestone  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 4 +0.855
105.940mph
10 (+1) +18L
101.440mph
18 1:24.251
105.022mph
Disco
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 DNS ---
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Firestone  
4 UKGPL
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 11 12 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

After his maiden win at the Nurburgring a fortnight earlier, it\'s back-to-back wins for John Hammonds, this time around the twisting ribbon of tarmac that is Mosport. After battling with John in the first half of the race, Dave Ranier proved his usual consistent-self to claim a fine 2nd place, despite an unfortunate incident lapping fellow racers mid-race. Andy Livingston rounded off the podium, adding to his trophy cabinet this season.

After an easy moderator\'s job for the last couple of races, this time there were three reported incidents. Time to dust off the moderator\'s cap and assess below...


Server replay time: 0h05m32s

After a better exit out of Clayton corner, Fran is closing in on Bill and dives down the inside on the approach to Quebec corner. Fran manages to get alongside Bill at his turn-point to the corner, but there isn\'t enough space for the two of them and the contact forces Bill off the circuit, causing him to lose several positions while Fran continues unaffected.

Mosport is a very tricky place to overtake as the circuit is full of fast sweepers and only has one heavy braking zone into the Moss corners. While I\'ve mentioned Fran was alongside at his turn-in point; at Bill\'s turn-in point, Fran has yet to achieve 50% overlap. When Fran made his move there was just about a car\'s width, but the pass would have required Bill\'s cooperation to avoid contact.

This is another example of the \"perceived overlap\" dilemma in GPL. The following link provides good information about this: http://www.ukgpl.com/rec_dvr_beh/rec_driver_beh.htm

As a result, the primary blame for this contact has to rest with Fran. Although marginal, the pass was likely to result in contact, without more of an overlap on approach. In similar situations, I\'ve been guilty of this myself in past races. It happens to many of us.


Server replay time: 0h11m47s

Bill & Michael are battling for position as they approach the Moss hairpin. On arrival, they approach a stationary Bastian whose Cooper is facing sideways on the circuit. Both take avoiding action; Michael on the outside, Bill the inside. While recovering for the approach to the second hairpin, Bill, expecting Michael to get caught up in the incident, goes for the inside line. Just as he does that, Michael has recovered from the outside and aims for the same piece of track. As a result, Bill t-bones Michael taking them both off the circuit.

This wasn\'t an overtaking attempt. It was recovering from avoiding action and a misjudgment about how quickly it would take surrounding cars to recover. As Bill was behind Michael, if there is blame, it would be directly towards Bill. Having said this, I do feel penalising Bill is harsh given the circumstances. Both can continue with their races.


Server replay time: 0h19m10s

On the back-straight, Michael takes a cautious approach over the hill, into the Esses. Bastian, behind Michael, was taken by surprise at the differing closing speeds and dives down the inside to try to avoid contact. Unfortunately, the high kerbs pitched his car directly into Michael the two crash into each other.

When comparing to his other laps, Michael was roughly 15-20mph slower on this particular lap before he lifted off the throttle, as he had let a car past on the straight moments before. Bastian typically lifted later than Michael on the approach to the Esses on his laps and didn\'t adjust for the car ahead on this lap.

In Bastian\'s defense, there was a very large gap to Michael and the difference in speed was higher than anticipated. But, more caution could have been exercised and ultimately, it was Bastian who rear-ended Michael.

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« on: May 10, 2017, 02:33:36 PM +0100 »

Season 31 Privateers Trophy - Round 07 - Mosport

To commemorate the 50th anniversary of the 1967 season, the UKGPL season will take place on 10 of the 11 original circuits. For the seventh round of the season we cross the Atlantic Ocean for the Canadian GP at Mosport. Consisting of mainly fast turns, other than the devilish Moss corner, undulations and a long back-straight, a good all-round setup is required here. 

The track held its first major race in 1961, when Stirling Moss, who won, suggested changes to the proposed hairpin, which then became the two corners called Moss in his honour. The first ever Canadian Grand Prix was held at Mosport in 1967 and was won by Jack Brabham.  The circuit was used again in 1969 in a race won by Jackie Ickx.  Jackie Stewart crashed out after tangling with a back marker, the privateer Al Pease, who was being lapped for the fourth time at only half distance.  At the end of the race, Al Pease was disqualified and to this day remains the only driver to be disqualified for being too slow. More like something you would find in a GPL race than a real F1 event!

Note the Privateers division is run on Intermediate damage settings. Drivers are permitted 1 Shift R followed by a Stop & Go in the pit lane within 2 laps. Failure to make a stop will result in a 30 second time penalty. If you require a stop & go on the final lap & are unable to complete a time penalty of 15 secs is added.

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Sunday 14-05-2017
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT+1)
Track= Mosport
Race length = 36 laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model =  Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
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Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2017, 10:15:35 PM +0100 »

Nothing to do for me,2 explosion in 18 laps.Billy i have not yet seen the replay,anyway sorry.I have seen an opportunity but then there is no more space for me.
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2017, 10:21:58 PM +0100 »

Sorry my internet was down today until now, I hope you got it sorted.
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2017, 10:23:30 PM +0100 »

We have "raced" with Phil server Axel.
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2017, 10:58:46 PM +0100 »

Hi Axel
Thankfully my server behaved itself tonight.  I had to set up the laps etc and loose grids which took me a while so we were late starting.  For some reason the loose grid didn't work but everyone managed a clean start.

My race was a catalogue of errors as usual.  Still too many missed gears  taz
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2017, 11:08:14 PM +0100 »

The replay server, UKGPL3 seems to be off-line at the moment.

Until UKGPL3 is back, the server replay can be downloaded from here
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2017, 07:44:37 AM +0100 »

Very scruffy race for me. Got a reasonable start from P3 but a side by side with Fran bumped me into the long grass. The replay looks like a 50/50 although I think an overtake at that corner was always likely to result in contact. After that I spent most of the race trying to pass Michael. We had a moment when a Cooper span at Moss. I thought I had a free run on the inside but Mike swooped round the outside. Contact was probably my fault. I had several spins & swapped places with Phil several times. Well done to John. That's two wins, but I think any one of the top 5 could win the series.
 
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 08:45:01 AM +0100 »

It was my first try with G27 last night.

My tires went really hot and the brake pedal is so much harder than other wheels - i had much trouble, and i didn't even use the H-Shifter. Just the new wheel.

Sorry to Dave C, i was running into you once and another time to Mark Jones, i lost it under breaking and went inside as much as i could but unfortunately didn't avoid you
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2017, 10:11:04 AM +0100 »

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Very scruffy race for me. Got a reasonable start from P3 but a side by side with Fran bumped me into the long grass. The replay looks like a 50/50 although I think an overtake at that corner was always likely to result in contact.
Feel free to do a report Billy,i have tried an overtake that at start seem to me done but this one is a classic for the moderator.
I'm sorry for what happen and since the continuation of my race was stopped by 2 engine explosion,this overtake has been useless.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2017, 11:06:47 AM +0100 »

After the solo racing at Nuremberg, Mosport was a welcome change with action all the way -though mainly defending against would be overtakers rather than challenging for position. Great fun nonetheless.
Billy's Ferrari in particular constantly disappearing then reappearing to buzz in my speakers like an angry wasp.

Unusually the race proceeded without any self inflicted disasters and with my first top six finish of the season rather than the Al Pease memorial trophy
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2017, 02:08:43 PM +0100 »

I made a poor start due to the very closed grid ...3 cars on a line !
Then I followed John "Jeep" during 15 laps (?) until we rejoin the backmarkers.
Phil spun at Moss and I couldn't avoid him Sad

Immediately after, I dont'understand what happened : Phil was crossing the track in reverse and there was a new contact  ...

I don't know if my car was damaged or if I was too nervous but I spun 2 times during the 2 or 3 next laps and it seems I was running 1 second per lap more than before these incidents.


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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2017, 02:16:29 PM +0100 »

I think any one of the top 5 could win the series.
 

If we remove the worst results, the situation is :

1 Jeep 229
2 Fulvio 226
3 Bastian 224
4 Rainier 210
5 Andy 196

If we remove the 2 worst results :

Jeep, Fulvio and Bastian have exactly the same total : 201 pts !!!

I can't remember a Privateers season with so many closed drivers for the title !
Very exciting !
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2017, 12:06:30 AM +0100 »

Well, Totally unexpected to win here. Was very surprised to manage 2nd on the grid managing to take almost a second off my previous PB in the Cooper during qualifying.

Very tight grid, I was waiting for Rainier to appear in front of me and got the shock of my life when I glanced right then left and saw spots 1 & 3 alongside. Flag dropped and we all fought for grip and minimum wheelspin to keep every thing in a straight line. Managed to get the jump on Rainier into T1 but he was never out of my mirrors for the opening laps. I seemed to have the edge through T1 and the long left hander but he hauled me back in and was up my chuff by Moss every lap. I didn't expect to hold him off for as long as I did but fortunately (For me) he ran wide into T2 and onto the grass around Lap 7 and that gave me a few seconds breathing space. Around lap 17 we came across Billy and Michael having their own battle and on the approach to Moss Billy slide wide and clipped the Armco. I scraped through but Rainier wasn't so lucky and they collided giving me a lead of around 10 seconds or so.

From there it was a case of managing the gap as well as I could and trying to catch people in the best place for me to not have to wreck my rythym. Came across Bastian with about 6 laps to go and had planned to just follow him home but noticed the previous distance back to Rainier of 0.7mile at Moss had become 600yds so pressed on and put Bastian between us.

Honestly do not think I would have won in a straight fight over full race distance as Rainier and few others had more outright speed than me.

Congrats to the rest of the podium and all finishers.

Thanks guys. Really enjoying my time at UKGPL.

Stick with the G27 Bastian, I hated mine and almost went back to my trusty Momo at 1 point. The brake pedal in particular does take some getting used to but once it clicks you will wonder how you managed with anything else. Mine has taken me from paddles no clutch and LF braking through to RF braking full clutch and shifter. I'm still not as quick as previously but couldn't go back now.

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2017, 10:30:45 AM +0100 »


Stick with the G27 Bastian, I hated mine and almost went back to my trusty Momo at 1 point. The brake pedal in particular does take some getting used to but once it clicks you will wonder how you managed with anything else. Mine has taken me from paddles no clutch and LF braking through to RF braking full clutch and shifter. I'm still not as quick as previously but couldn't go back now.

TTFN
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thx, tough i'm racing from two homes it will take some time for me. This weekend i race in munich with the Driving force GT.
But soon i will have some questions for the g27. Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2017, 11:47:46 PM +0100 »

I had a nice Holiday in Sicily so I missed one of my fav track. See you all at Monza, I hope... Sunday I have to work and I hope to be back home in time for the race.
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