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  • S31His Mont-Tremblant: May 21, 2017
May 21, 2017, 09:39:12 PM +0100 - Mont-Tremblant - UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Historic Trophy (66)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 3 +0.530
95.151mph
1 50:55.853
93.700mph
30 1:40.420
95.045mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 9 +2.702
93.135mph
2 +23.632
92.981mph
30 1:40.699
94.782mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 5 +1.935
93.837mph
3 (+1) +55.404
92.031mph
30 1:42.249
93.345mph
Firestone  
AndyL
 
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 7 +2.446
93.368mph
4 +1:01.765
91.844mph
30 1:42.660
92.971mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 10 +3.341
92.558mph
5 +1:05.064
91.746mph
30 1:42.847
92.802mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 11 +4.772
91.291mph
6 +1L
90.423mph
29 1:43.017
92.649mph
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 12 +5.350
90.789mph
7 +1.053
90.392mph
29 1:42.198
93.392mph
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 13 +5.466
90.689mph
8 +41.517
89.213mph
29 1:44.223
91.577mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 16 +7.920
88.622mph
9 +54.689
88.836mph
29 1:43.877
91.882mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 15 +6.513
89.795mph
10 +1:06.852
88.491mph
29 1:44.546
91.294mph
Firestone  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 14 +5.698
90.489mph
11 +3L
91.655mph
27 1:41.910
93.656mph
Goodyear  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 4 +1.425
94.310mph
12 +15L
93.614mph
15 1:40.926
94.569mph
Disco
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 8 +2.663
93.170mph
13 +24L
91.664mph
6 1:41.644
93.901mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Alessandro Isacchini
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 1 1:39.778
95.657mph
14 +29L
91.945mph
1 1:45.319
90.624mph
Disco
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 6 +2.064
93.718mph
15 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 16 ---
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Firestone  
MagicArsouille
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 2 +0.227
95.440mph
17 ---
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Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 18 ---
---
Goodyear  
4 UKGPL
 
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 16 19 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Summary
After setting a blistering pole time just edging out Tristan, Alessandro blew his engine after a spin. With Tristan missing the start because he discoed at the end of practice and wasn\'t able to rejoin the server in time, Sam was able to capitalise the their misfortune and bring his Eagle home for a well deserved win. Clive grabbed second place with Andy Livingstone being promoted onto the final step of the podium after Axel was awarded a place penalty.


Server replay time: 0h12m05s

Lap 7 - Turn 8 Exit - Axel Cookie and Dean Logan
Dean pulls off a great pass on the inside at Charlton and leads Axel into the long right hander at Turn 8. The adrenaline is pumping and Dean runs slightly wide inviting Axel to try and take back the place. Axel hugs the inside whilst Dean tracks round the outside. They are side-by-side with neither driver more than a metre ahead as they exit the turn. Dean is as close to the white line on the outside as it is possible to be. Axel doesn\'t realize Dean is there and he moves across to take up the racing line. Contact is made and both cars spin out. Axel can continue but Dean is out of the race.

Dean may have left his braking to the very last second (in an effort to fend off Axel) causing him to run slightly wide, or he may simply have been driving in a very gentlemany manner and staying wide to ensure Axel had enough room. Either way, Dean did nothing wrong.

Having attempted the pass Axel should have stayed on his own side of the track until he was certain he was ahead of Dean.

This type of incident is covered by the penalty guideline \"Simple Side by Side contact, Scenario 4\". In fact there is a detailed explanation including screenshots from both inside and outside the cars. This incident is a perfect match for the penalty guideline so very little interpretation is required by the moderator.


Server replay time: 0h28m44s

Lap 16 - Bridge Turn - Bastian Grupp and Francesco Molteni
Bastian is pressurising Fancesco, he is looking for any opportunity to overtake on this tight twisty track. Francesco makes a tiny mistake at The Gulch, he looses momentum and slews to the inside. Bastian closes up just as Francesco moves to the right in order to resume the racing line. Contact is made between Francesco\'s gearbox and Bastian\'s nose. Bastian spins out but Francesco is unaffected.

There isn\'t a penalty guideline to specifically cover this type of incident. However there are a couple of general principles and a section in the Recommended Driver Behaviour which are appropriate. The first principle is that it is up to the following driver to make a safe pass and the second is that the lead driver must not block or weave to defend their position. There is also the guidance in the Recommended Driver Behaviour which encourages drivers to avoid close racing when it is not necessary.

Was Bastian attempting a safe pass? It is not obvious that Bastian was actually attempting a pass, he was merely sticking to the normal racing line and had more speed than Francesco thanks to his cleaner exit from The Gulch. Was Bastian driving too close? He closed up on Francesco because of Francesco\'s loss of momentum but he certainly wasn\'t constantly driving inches from Francesco\'s gearbox.

Francesco made the mistake and drifted off the racing line. Should he have moved back onto the racing line without considering other drivers? If Francesco had not moved off the racing line but had simply skidded and lost momentum, then there would be no question of him doing anything wrong. The onus would be on the following car to maintain a safe gap until a viable overtaking opportunity presented itself. However is it fair to move back onto the racing line and cause an opponent to change their line or speed to avoid a shunt? Does that not have the same effect as blocking or weaving?

Both drivers must share some responsibility for this incident as they both had an opportunity to avoid it. Having slewed to the inside, Francesco could have stayed on the inside for Bridge Turn thereby completing a legal defensive move. Having seen Fran was heading back to the racing line, Bastian could have backed off and waited for a better opportunity. However neither driver behaved in such a way as to warrant anything more than advice. A penalty, warning or even a caution for either driver would be harsh.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
1:39.778
95.611mph
Alessandro Isacchini
Qualifying
Eagle T1F (Climax)May 21, 2017, 09:39:12 PM +0100
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2017, 01:48:12 AM +0100 »

On a different subject: I PM'ed Phil asking why "Charlton" was used as the race password, having never really looked at the GPL track map to see that's what T7 is called.

I used to marshal races in Quebec and eastern Ontario back late 70s - early 80s era. One of the oldtimers in the QRFA (Quebec Region Flagger's Association) crew was "Chuck" Charlton, who been doing it for basically ever. He was the kind of guy who knew everyone in every job at every level of the sport (and most of them owed him favours Grin). At the time, the Circuit (Anglophones, say "ser-kwee") did not use the bottom half of the GPL layout, as the Grey Nuns of Montreal (who owned the track, somehow) weren't putting much money into maintenance, and Canadian winters play hell with asphalt. There was a shortcut from just past T5 over to the bottom of the hill at T11, so I was unfamiliar with that part of the track until the GPL version came out.

I'm guessing that someone in the intervening years named the corner for old Chuck (AFAIK there's no one else in the Canadian racing scene, then or now, named Charlton). Nice tribute, imo.
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2017, 10:45:52 PM +0100 »

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