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  • L6E Watkins Glen: August 28, 2008
August 28, 2008, 08:41:26 PM +0100 - Watkins Glen (Boot) - UKGTL Season 6 Season 6 Classic Endurance
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202953) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.699
103.309mph
1 1:18:57.945
100.056mph
39 1:57.826
103.164mph
Avon  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202953) GTC-TC-76 1 1:56.962
103.926mph
2 +0.165
100.053mph
39 1:57.489
103.460mph
Avon  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.026
103.022mph
3 +15.093
99.738mph
39 1:58.070
102.951mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#81) GTC-TC-76 9 +2.604
101.663mph
4 +1:15.364
98.490mph
39 2:01.017
100.444mph
Goodyear  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
DeTomaso Pantera (#84) GTC-TC-76 5 +1:21.680
98.360mph
39 1:57.933
103.070mph
Avon  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 12 +2.803
101.494mph
6 +1:59.056
97.604mph
39 2:01.233
100.265mph
Avon  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 906 (#201441) GTC-TC-76 10 +2.689
101.590mph
7 +2:01.486
97.555mph
39 2:00.869
100.567mph
Michelin  
evert blommert
 Dutch Turtles
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 15 +4.352
100.198mph
8 +1L
97.144mph
38 2:00.531
100.849mph
Michelin  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#853) GTC-TC-76 23 +10.140
95.635mph
9 +18.809
96.762mph
38 2:00.642
100.756mph
Goodyear  
GardO
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 19 +5.479
99.276mph
10 +54.344
96.047mph
38 1:58.852
102.273mph
Avon  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 18 +5.286
99.432mph
11 +1:02.532
95.883mph
38 2:01.666
99.908mph
Avon  
[POOdle]Keith
 
DeTomaso Pantera (#86) GTC-TC-76 20 +5.623
99.159mph
12 +1:19.085
95.555mph
38 2:03.333
98.558mph
Avon  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 21 +6.386
98.546mph
13 +1:44.145
95.062mph
38 2:03.173
98.686mph
Avon  
Spadowski
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 906 (#205705) GTC-TC-76 14 +2L
92.927mph
37 2:01.931
99.691mph
Michelin  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 16 +4.739
99.879mph
15 +16.883
92.604mph
37 2:03.408
98.498mph
Michelin  
phspok
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.395
102.701mph
16 +3L
92.116mph
36 2:00.464
100.905mph
Avon  
Stewprovo
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202953) GTC-TC-76 17 +4L
89.577mph
35 2:03.834
98.159mph
Avon  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#201455) GTC-TC-76 11 +2.749
101.540mph
18 35 2:00.790
100.632mph
unknown
Avon  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 17 +4.900
99.747mph
19 +13L 26 2:02.180
99.488mph
unknown
Dunlop  
stnasky
 Team RVS
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#853) GTC-TC-76 7 +1.885
102.278mph
20 +15L 24 1:58.469
102.604mph
unknown
Goodyear  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#205722) GTC-TC-76 4 +0.978
103.064mph
21 +21L 18 2:00.967
100.485mph
suspension
Avon  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 906 (#201441) GTC-TC-76 22 +7.679
97.523mph
22 +31L 8 2:07.054
95.671mph
unknown
Michelin  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#200891) GTC-TC-76 8 +2.268
101.949mph
23 +34L 5 2:01.549
100.004mph
unknown
Avon  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#205797) GTC-TC-76 14 +3.508
100.900mph
24 +38L 1 2:55.245
69.362mph
unknown
Avon  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
DeTomaso Pantera (#80) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.688
103.318mph
+39L 0 ---
---
unknown
Avon  
ossie
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 13 +3.122
101.224mph
0 ---
---
suspension
Avon  

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Baracus suffers some pedal problems on entering grid but does everything in his power to avoid an incident and escapes to pit before start of race. No blame can reasonably be apportioned here but it does serve as a reminder to all of the inherent dangers of mixing standing starts and possible technical problems. With hindsight, Baracus would have escaped earlier and we all should learn from his misfortune here.

Rather than look and report the mainly sensible reactions of all those involved in the ensuing choas our (a number of mods have been involved)general overview and some resulting conclusions follows.

Standing starts are inherently dangerous but, even with the unusual and unfortunate events seen as Watkins Glen, there are steps we can all take to limit the damage. At first sign of trouble on the grid you must slow, by blending off the throttle and if unavoidable braking, thus giving yourself every opportunity to react. Here, the vast majority of the grid followed these common sense rules and should be commended. However one or two appeared to ignore them and simply carried on accelerating as normal with inevitable results. I say "appeared" because the replays only show the action and not any other circumstances that may be involved and therefore they have been given the benefit of the doubt this time.

With their undoubted popularity, we will continue with standing starts but only with certain provisos. No benefit of doubt will be given to those who do not appear, we will rely on replay eveidence alone, to take all reasonable care in the future and the harshest possible penalties, within our rules, will be given out. 'Other circumstances' cannot be taken into consideration for future offences. We feel these steps are necessary and reasonable as such actions ruin hours of preparation and racing unnecessarily for others.

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« on: July 19, 2008, 10:06:40 AM +0100 »

All members welcome.

Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (10 mins)
Race: 20:35 (39 laps = ~80 mins)

Track: Watkins Glen (GP)  (download here)
Cars allowed: Any GTC76 plus GT40.
Time of Day Setting: 19:00
Start: STANDING
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel or change your tyres. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTL Classics Cup
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(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.ukRules.
(3) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.6.5.0 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page.
(4) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car

If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

(5) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 01:03:14 AM +0100 »

Shouldn't this be August 7th?
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 12:24:40 PM +0100 »

Shouldn't this be August 7th?

I might have entered something wrong along the line, its has been known Wink but no, the date is right here. The Enduro season kicks off in Argentina on the 7th and this is the second enduro event.
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 12:49:35 PM +0100 »

Ok, then the dates shown under the "Drivers and Standings" section are incorrect. That shows America then Argentina. Also then why has Watkins Glen appeared in the "forthcoming" schedule and not Buenos Aires?
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 01:56:57 PM +0100 »

The event dates in LM2i appear to be the wrong way round SbG...
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 02:11:43 PM +0100 »

The event dates in LM2i appear to be the wrong way round SbG...
When I look at it Le Mans looks like it will be the 1st enduro race. The 'Classics cup' also seems to be displayed in a muddled order.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2008, 02:58:58 PM +0100 »

Ta gents, think enduro season is right now? The sprints will be sorted after tonights testing (we just need to check some are ok). It might take a little longer as we haven't really firmed up end of season yet, its about 3 months away so no immediate panic Smiley

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2008, 12:05:52 AM +0100 »

Oh my word what a track!!  Going to be a great race.

Just been spinning round (litterally as we were all in Panties) with Tony, Ade & Martin. Fantastic fun!

Cheers chaps.

p.s. Would the Mclaren be an option to run here?
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2008, 09:36:12 AM +0100 »

Oh what fun we had, 4 panties together!!
Gonna miss this one as I'm on holiday.... gutted!!
For future reference.... taking the short cut, getting and serving a stop and go is slightly longer than going round the track properly!  Grin

Have fun guys!  :'(
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2008, 11:37:26 PM +0100 »

29 laps? Is that right? 80/29 = 2.75. 2 mins 45 seems a bit pedestrian for these cars.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2008, 09:42:57 AM +0100 »

Hey Phil

Glad you survived.

Even I can get under 2 mins with some effort, I think the quick boys will be
doing 1.56 ish
If 80 mins is the norm, then 40 laps would seem appropriate.

Newbie question:
I have edited the .plr and I don't get auto pit, but when I go into the pit stall
it drops me to the garage screen, then I hit "drive" and I am in my garage
and have to drive rouns the sheds to et back onto pit lane.
Is this normal? or am I missing some pitting option?
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2008, 10:19:47 AM +0100 »

Newbie question:
I have edited the .plr and I don't get auto pit, but when I go into the pit stall
it drops me to the garage screen

You were right to ask. No, that's not normal. Unless you were testing it in qualifying or practice(?). When you go to the pits mid race, it should bring up a clip board, where you decide what changes you want to make (i.e. more fuel/change tyres).
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2008, 11:05:06 AM +0100 »

Thanks Legzy

Yes I was in practice. I've tried an AI race, and I get the clipboard
and the guys then change all 42 wheels (it seems like)
and take 120 secs before they ket me go. I have set nothing special
just 18 laps fuel, and I suppose they swap the tyres, have to see if I can control
what is done at a pit stop.

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2008, 11:08:26 AM +0100 »

When the pitboard comes up use your up/down keys to select a subject i.e. body, tyres, fuel etc. Then use the left/right keys to select an option i.e. repair body, don't repair body. Also note that the fuel shown is the amount currently in your car and NOT the amount due to be added.
Hope this helps
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2008, 05:47:45 PM +0100 »

I think this should be a 40 lap race. I'm doing almost 2:00 min laps in practise.
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