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June 03, 2011, 10:17:14 PM +0100 - Brands Hatch (GP) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Tom van Ostade
 SuperCup Pasti Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 1 1:34.999
100.392mph
1 52:53.495
99.173mph
33 1:35.325
100.049mph
Dunlop  
jhalli
 SuperCup Porsche International
Porsche 910 GT 1967 2 +0.337
100.037mph
2 +0.576
99.155mph
33 1:34.776
100.628mph
Dunlop  
Pedro vd Berg
 SuperCup Black Night
Porsche 910 GT 1967 5 +0.868
99.483mph
3 +1:08.516
97.077mph
33 1:36.545
98.785mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 SuperCup Porsche International
Porsche 910 GT 1967 8 +2.018
98.304mph
4 (+2) +1L
95.779mph
32 1:37.514
97.803mph
Dunlop  
Raoni Frizzo
 SuperCup Team Coyote
Porsche 910 GT 1967 3 +0.634
99.727mph
5 +18L
96.171mph
15 1:36.346
98.989mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 SuperCup Porsche International
Porsche 910 GT 1967 4 +0.684
99.675mph
6 +19L
94.715mph
14 1:37.876
97.441mph
Disco
Dunlop  
norbert
 SuperCup Pasti Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 12 +5.580
94.823mph
7 +1:15.867
89.878mph
14 1:41.953
93.545mph
Disco
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 SuperCup Team7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 10 +2.978
97.341mph
8 +20L
94.223mph
13 1:37.535
97.782mph
Disco
Dunlop  
G Jonsson
 SuperCup Black Night
Porsche 910 GT 1967 6 +1.700
98.627mph
9 +24L
95.398mph
9 1:37.726
97.591mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Baab
 SuperCup Team7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 7 +1.710
98.617mph
10 +8.339
94.522mph
9 1:37.115
98.205mph
Disco
Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 SuperCup Black Night
Porsche 910 GT 1967 11 +3.457
96.867mph
11 +28L
91.950mph
5 1:39.759
95.602mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Arf Arf Arf
 SuperCup Pasti Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 9 +2.620
97.698mph
12 +33L
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0 ---
---
Disco
Dunlop  
s2173
 SuperCup Team7
Porsche 910 GT 1967 13 +11.932
89.190mph
13 DNS ---
---
Dunlop  
2 GamesclanT7
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 14 14 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

A popular circuit and a great venue for our Porsches, despite a couple of incidents at T1 where people jostled for the inside unsure of what would have been in their mirrors if they had any.

Despite this being a team event, the Clark-Hill boys had so much faith in Geoff that they used him as their sole entrant. Bloody idiots!

The unofficial oversteer championship is still being won by Evil Clive who is now able to use this technique in almost every corner. Well done Clive!


Server replay time: 0

T1 saw a couple of drivers moving over to the inside when they could not be sure that no other car was there.

In this mod with it's poor rearward visibility it is particularly important to be prepared to stick to your own side of the grid from the start until the field have spread a little, usually after T1.

Ronnie was guilty of it as he squeezed Pedro and Cookie was also guilty of it as he chopped across the front of Arf Arf Arf.

To avoid being involved in the argy bargy, Bob started from the pit lane.


Server replay time: 0h01m10s

Cookie follows Goran through Druids and the two make contact as Cookie aims for a small gap on the inside. Goran goes off track and loses a couple of places as he recovers.

Goran had to lift slightly to avoid rear ending Pedro and Cookie looked to seize on the opportunity to pass him but had no overlap going into the corner and no gap wide enough for his car. Considering this was Lap 1 in a Pro level race it was a very risky move with little chance of success.

The initial contact between the cars is a warp contact but as Goran's car gets sideways there is real contact between the two of them and Goran is lucky that the reaction of his car was not more severe.

Though we don't punish warp incidents in all cases, there are certain instances where a warp incident could be expected and drivers should drive in a way that does not invite a warp incident. Lap 1 T2 with no real gap would count as one of those instances and Cookie should have lifted and followed Goran through Druids.

The m oderator has waived the extra Lap 1 Incident penalty place as the initial contact was warp, though it may have become real at some point.

June 03, 2011, 11:07:36 PM +0100 - Brands Hatch (GP) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Porsche
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 1 1:33.924
101.540mph
1 52:53.457
99.174mph
33 1:33.834
101.638mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 2
Porsche 910 GT 1967 3 +1.593
99.847mph
2 +46.940
97.728mph
33 1:35.899
99.449mph
Dunlop  
natan5
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 2 +1.589
99.851mph
3 (+1) +1:23.573
96.629mph
33 1:36.319
99.015mph
Dunlop  
andrwe
 SuperCup GPFun
Porsche 910 GT 1967 5 +3.427
97.966mph
4 +1L
94.984mph
32 1:37.638
97.678mph
Dunlop  
RBald
 SuperCup GPFun
Porsche 910 GT 1967 10 +5.913
95.526mph
5 +3L
89.019mph
30 1:40.053
95.320mph
Dunlop  
maddog
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 7 +3.854
97.538mph
6 +7L
94.239mph
26 1:39.652
95.704mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Geoff65
 SuperCup Clark-Hill
Porsche 910 GT 1967 8 +4.506
96.892mph
7 +14L
93.152mph
19 1:38.583
96.742mph
unknown
Dunlop  
blito
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 9 +5.816
95.619mph
8 +0.230
93.141mph
19 1:38.645
96.681mph
Disco
Dunlop  
francesco
 SuperCup Pastit Porsche
Porsche 910 GT 1967 6 +3.446
97.947mph
9 +23L
95.537mph
10 1:38.101
97.217mph
Disco
Dunlop  
clouds
 SuperCup GPFun
Porsche 910 GT 1967 4 +2.328
99.084mph
10 (+2) +25L
94.836mph
8 1:37.006
98.314mph
Disco
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 SuperCup Hiki-Waza 1
Porsche 910 GT 1967 11 +7.441
94.086mph
11 +33L
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0 ---
---
Disco
Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ford GT40 MkI GT 1967 12 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
8 GPG
 
Porsche 910 GT 1967 12 13 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Two Drivers, two corners, two incidents, two different outcomes.


Server replay time: 0h08m53s

Clouds and Natan collide in the final turn.

Clouds has no overlap at turn in, but Natan is unstable and runs wide before regaining control and heading back to the racing line where Clouds is now moving past him.

This was a legitimate overtake attempt by Clouds and following his wobble Natan should have been aware that Clouds was moving alongside as he was visible in the lead up to the incident.


Server replay time: 0h12m56s

Natan is slow on the approach to South Bank and lets a car pass but he recovers his racing speed and line and enters South Bank with Clouds behind him.

Clouds makes a passing attempt on the inside but he hits Natan as Natan heads towards the apex.

Clouds left his passing attempt far too late and has no overlap at turn in which means Natan has every right to take the racing line and was always going to do so.

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« on: May 25, 2011, 11:09:30 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 21 Porsche Super Cup
Race 3 Brands Hatch

Round 3 of the Porsche Super Cup takes place at Brands Hatch, a challenging track that can be very rewarding to drive if you get it right. Take that as a challenge.

There are a couple of nasty bumps to look out for, particularly in Dingle Dell and on the exit of the pit lane. Make sure you have set a decent ride height or you may have trouble bottoming out when you have race fuel on board. Those Porsches are quite delicate you know.

Download the circuit here
Download the update patch here

Please see the Porsche Super Cup registration thread for an explanation of the Team Setups:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9197.msg166098#msg166098

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CHECK WHICH SERVER YOUR TEAM IS RACING ON AS IT WILL NOT BE THE SAME FOR EVERY RACE OF THE SEASON.

1 TEAM NAME - Pasti Porsche - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Tom Van Ostade
Driver 2 - Am - Nicky Ickx
Driver 3 - Nov - Norbert

2 TEAM NAME - Porsche International - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Juha Hallikainen
Driver 2 - Nov Wink - Ronniepeterson
Driver 3 - Nov - Axel Cookie

3 TEAM NAME - Clark Hill - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Am - Geoff Heard
Driver 2 - Am - Steve Bird
Driver 3 - Am - Vlad Vosblod
Reserve - Nov - Happy Al

4 TEAM NAME - Hiki-Waza 1 - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Hristo
Driver 2 - Nov - Paul
Driver 3 - Nov - Blito

5 TEAM NAME - Hiki-Waza 2 - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Evil Clive
Driver 2 - Nov - Nigel Smith
Driver 3 - Nov - Karliss

6 TEAM NAME - Black Knight - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - G Jonsson
Driver 2 - Am - Pedro
Driver 3 - Nov - il_lupo_mannaro

7 TEAM NAME - Team Coyote - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Raoni Frizzo
Driver 2 - Nov - Jonny'O
Driver 3 - Nov - Du Fossa

8 TEAM NAME - Team 7 - SERVER 1
Driver 1 - Pro - Fulvio Policardi
Driver 2 - Am - Bob Whitwell
Driver 3 - Nov - s2173

9 TEAM NAME - Team GPFun - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Pro - Andrea Tendas
Driver 2 - Am - Sergio Lonzar
Driver 3 - Nov - Roberto Baldassarri
Reserve - Am - Gianni Sellitto

10 TEAM NAME - Pastit Porsche - SERVER 2
Driver 1 - Nov - Maddog
Driver 2 - Am - Natan
Driver 3 - Nov - Francesco

All drivers may join the server immediately but are asked not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Porsche Super Cup Races will be run across 2 Servers, under Pro rules and will be approximately 50 minutes in length.
Lap 1 will be fully moderated and thereafter will be reported incidents only.

SERVER 1
Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 03/06/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Brands Hatch
Variant = GT67
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 33 laps
Password: see above

SERVER 2
Race List = IGOR
Server = GPG_8
IP address = 62.195.32.131
Race date = 03/06/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Brands Hatch
Variant = GT67
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 33 laps
Password: see above

The Team Championship Standings can be found here:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=309&theme=6

GT67 Mod: The GT67 Mod for GPL can be downloaded here:
http://www.sportscarlegends.net/index.html
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 10:32:13 AM +0100 »

There is a track fix by Ginetto: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9245.0

No more bumps!
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 08:25:41 AM +0100 »

 Huh just realised I cant make this one .
damned communion of my sisters son  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2011, 09:08:46 AM +0100 »

Cool! Brands Hatch! We havent done that one in ages!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 12:33:56 PM +0100 »

Cool! Brands Hatch! We havent done that one in ages!  Roll Eyes
You can blame me for the tracks being lumped together.
An issue was raised last season re having to practice for multiple races at different tracks so I put them into groups where possible to reduce that. I guess you are in the opposite camp. At least after this race Brands is out of the way, although there is a healthy dose of Silverstone on the horizon Grin
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 12:53:37 PM +0100 »

Actually, I love Brands but it does get a bit repetitive doing the same track in four different leagues. Mind you, like you said it does cut the amount of practice required down quite a bit! I always try to give each and every event a minimum of 1 hour pre-event practice, usually a day or two before the event itself.. Just done about 20 minutes round Aintree in my 1965 BRM P261, finding that the setup from Watkins Glen 2 weeks ago is perfect for Aintree too so I'm a happy bunny! It means I don't need to practice tonight and can snuggle on the Sofa with Karen and maybe watch a film... I can feel a Batman movie coming on I think Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 05:19:04 PM +0100 »

Cool! Brands Hatch! We havent done that one in ages!  Roll Eyes

At least we're not running multiple Monzas! I don't mind running a couple of Brands races, it's a great track IMO.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2011, 09:48:02 AM +0100 »

Hi Guys,
Do you have any server's replay of previous PSC races ?
The session REPLAYS is not available to me.
May I have permission to access to the replays session as well ?

Thank you.

P.S.: I could upload/dnload my own local replay but with it we can only see 2 cars behind and 5 ahead while a server's replay may show all the cars at once.
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 08:45:33 PM +0100 »

there is usually here : 

 http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/


i have also Sebring race replay on HD if you want
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2011, 05:30:57 PM +0100 »

T7_2 and GPG_8 servers are ready set on 33 laps LONG race and listening on Igor.

Server 2 is GPG_8, IP address 62.195.32.131


You can find GPG_8 Sebring  and next replays, results and reports at http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/ , look at the last Time Slot under Current.

Please read the Note at the bottom of the page.

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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2011, 06:29:54 PM +0100 »

Thank you Fulvio.
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2011, 12:21:53 AM +0100 »

I can't make this race so Martin (maddog) has agreed to take my place in the Pastit Porsche team

Good Luck Martin  thumbup2
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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2011, 10:45:22 AM +0100 »

I haven't seen practice servers up for this (or any other impending UKGPL event) for a few days - is this an error at my end?

Also if anyone is desperate* for a team member, I'm up for trying.

Arf

* chances are I'll warp too badly to bother starting the race...but you never know...
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2011, 05:22:48 PM +0100 »

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As far as i understood Nicky there's a free seat tonight
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2011, 05:40:45 PM +0100 »

Well Arf Arf, feel free to join   Smiley

Ok then, I shall!

I am hoping to have a test weapon ready for tonight...my warping problems are easy to read on lots of recent posts, but tonight I hope to race on my old PC rescued from the garage (i.e. not on a laptop), and as I can't make the wireless work on it, I shall be wired.

I still think the issue is the internet connection, as as my landlord hasn't moved his a**e to fix a ******* thing. As such I suspect these changes won't make a difference, and I'll have bad warp in practice and give up before I ruin someone's night...

..but just in case...Go Pasti!!

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