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Season 19 Amateurs Trophy - Round 6 - Mosport

An early race announcement but this race marks the start of the second half of the season so review of the chassis allocation is in order.  Tim Muttram and Clive Gardner are dominating the championship so it is only fair that they are moved to a slower chassis.

The track was designed and built in the late 1950s, and held its first major race in 1961, the Player's 200, a sports car race bringing drivers from the world over to rural Ontario. Stirling Moss won the event in a Lotus 19. The proposed hairpin was expanded into two discrete corners, to be of greater challenge to the drivers and more interesting for the spectators, at his suggestion, and is named Moss Corner in his honour. This is a source of lingering confusion as many people call the track Mossport. It has had a succession of owners since the original public company created to build the track. Mosport achieved acclaim though a series of international sports car races under the title "Canadian Grand Prix" normally reserved for Formula 1 races. F1's Grand Prix of Canada remained at the track until 1977.
Unlike many historic motorsport venues, Mosport's track layout has remained mostly unchanged from its original form.

Reserve drivers should not join until there are only 30 mins of qualifying left and all drivers should not go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Don't forget to use the updated 65 mod for this race.

Please be in the IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password)

Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race Date = 15-06-2010
Time = 21:00
Track = Mosport
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Pro
Qually Time = 30 minutes.
Race Length = 50 minutes (34 Laps)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=247&theme=6)

We have split the cars into groups based on average performance and split the drivers into groups based on average ability. The chassis numbers for Amateurs are as follows:

AMATEUR CHASSIS GROUPS
1 - Lotus, Ferrari
2 - BRM, Honda
3 - BT11
4 - Cooper
5 - BT7

Each driver has been given a seeding number and must pick a chassis with either an equal number or higher number but not a lower number. For example, if a driver is given a seeding of 2, he must pick one of the cars in group 2 (BRM or Honda) but if he would prefer to drive either the BT11, Cooper or BT7 he may do so. This means that a driver given a seeding of 1 can pick any chassis he prefers.

**NOTE**
Whichever chassis a driver begins his first race with is the chassis he must use for the remainder of the season unless a change has been agreed with the moderator.

The following drivers have made their chassis choice:

FULL TIME

Driver	Chassis
Phil	Ferrari 512
EvilClive	Cooper
Bernie	Lotus 33
John Roberts	Brabham BT11
FullMetal	Brabham BT7
b_1_rd	Lotus 33
policardi	Brabham BT11
al heller	BRM P261
Nicky	Brabham BT11
clutch	Lotus 33
kinghiro	BRM P261
g jonsson	Brabham BT11
Jimmy Rye	BRM P261
turkeymachine	Cooper
natan	BRM P261

RESERVES

Driver	Seeding
Hristo	Brabham BT7

The following drivers are still to make their chassis choice:

RESERVES

Driver	Seeding
Bartosz	1
Asbjeurn	1
Ruud	1
Bob Whitwell	3

Please use the updated 65 mod for this race which is available here:
Jamesonline.net/UKGPL (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/1965mod_PATCH_v2.0.2_Setup.zip)

Boooooo!!! 

Thank god it's a twisty one! ;D

Here's hoping I can lug the Cooper around here respectably. I loved this track with the Lotus and BT11 cars.

Ahem!!... it says...

"the following drivers have made their chassis choice"

so, when exactly was it, and how drunk was I, when I specified the Cooper??????? lol.

Come to that, I don't recall selecting the BT11 either!!! ::) 

Age must be playing tricks with my short term memory...now where did I leave that Honda last time I used it? or was it a lawnmower???? ;D ;D

Won't be able to make this one, I'm away from home all week.  Vos has kindly agreed to start the server. 

Tim and Evil, good luck with the new chariots :P

3 collisions defined my race.

#1 was my own mistake - span on the exit of T3 when I misjudged where the car was in relation to the super-slippy grass. Did a full 360 and rejoined right in front of evilclive. Absolutely sod-all I could do other than hope I didn't hit anybody/anything, so just my luck I get rear-ended for a change.

#2 confused me - I followed Al for a couple of laps and he was a lot slower than previous laps through Moss and wide of the first apex. Through the littlest straight I was alongside and aimed for the inside. Al turned in on me and spun.

#3 was the race ender - screwed up the 3rd-last corner at the end of the back straight, got the car up to speed and pointing in the right direction, quickly checked Pribluda and the direction beside me and joined the track. Made it through to the 2nd-last corner with Tim having passed already and Bob on my outside, and while I stayed tight he saw fit to run me off the road. Cheers for that, probably a blessing in disguise with the early morning at stake.


In terms of qualifying I'd done well to get the car into the mid 25s with the last lap, which I knew was possible given how comparatively easy it was to get it into the 26s.

Got a good start when Natan forgot where the gearbox was and lined up 3rd behind a very gentile Goran. Tried to remember the old adage - you can't win it at the first corner but you can sure lose it, and was Prib-watching lots on laps 1 and 2.

Will check my replay to confirm things and submit incident reports but my overall assessment - could do better.

One of my worst races ever.

I had a good start and I gained few positions. I was just behind Nicky, I had better exit from Moss and I've passed him on straight. Going into right hander I didn't knew how far away is Nicky, so I stayed on outside line. I feel like I've left enough room on the inside, but we touch and I was spinning on grass.
I've rejoined and quickly catch Nicky and Bernie. I was trying to get close to them, so I made pass afther Moss. Unfortunately I was to close, and going into Moss 2 I Jethro'ed him. That was the end for both of us.

I'm very sorry for that Moss accident. It was 100% my fault.

Finished 9th or 10th i think (not sure, the race is still going on)

First gear was incorrect at the hairpin so was over revving the car. I knew this would be a balancing act, and about 17 laps in it caught me out and i had a gentle spin. A missed 4th gear at the end of the back straight meaning no traction into the right hander meant i glided off and into the hedge. Unfortunately my car was not damaged so i had to continue.

Like most Amateur races, i whiled away the minutes watching Pribluda on the right wondering what it'd be like to closely follow someone, whilst also spending my time looking at the top left of the screen hoping someone might drop out so i could increase my positon. The couple of people who are in my ball park of speed had either retired or not turned up so eventually, i pulled into the pits, and i'm ashamed to say this, out of total boredom.

I'll save my annual 'race length' rant till the end of season review, but even though i love all the GPL tracks, including most of the refreshingly new and long ones this season, i've had enough after 30 or 40 minutes.

Anyway, Sachsenring next - a real classic track.  ;)

Qually and race time spent failing miserably to get the lotus up to speed  :-[ culminating in a sick mill after revving its blocks off  :'(

hope i didnt upset too many with my mobile chicane , I thought if I gave it an easy lap or two it might have spluttered back into life but I guess it needed more than a prayer .

enjoyed the opening laps though wasn't sure how the thing would be with full tank , the rest of the race was a drag so not to bothered about taking the early bath  :)

Grats to H (looked like a win when I left ) and the rest of you lot  ;D

come on folks , I knew you can do it better , like Nürburgring smash me out in front of T1/opening lap
(that was real amteurs work ) ..this time at Mosport final kick out was at lap 2/34. unconcentrate work.
(up to 4 attempt , thats rookie stuff )


I am so sick off it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I spun? interesting view, as ever ::) According to my replay Jethro punted me off after launching his car over the inside kerb at Moss & bouncing into me.

Jethro was following very close behind for a while & that makes me (among several other of his regular victims) naturally very wary. So when he disappeared from my mirrors just after the uphill entry to Moss, I assumed he was alongside so took a very wide line to leave him plenty of room in case he was doing one of his banzai moves. I might have been slightly slower through the first RH bend but that's because I was taking a very wide line & trying to avoid contact. Tried to take Moss as wide as possible to leave plenty of room but still got nerfed. Massive shame because I haven't often been in decent positions in Am's & was in 3rd or 4th at the time. Jethro has only done 2 Am's races this season but has still managed to ruin my race in both. Really really getting fed up with this - not sure it's worth all the aggro :(  

Someone has sneakily modified the BT11 that I was getting used to (after my beloved Wazamobile was torn from my clutching fingers at the beginning of the season) and replaced it with a different green thing that makes a lot of noise and that's about all!!!

Qually was as good as ( if not better) than I expected with 6th on grid. Start was a bonus when Natan bogged down and I gained a place. Jethro was hassling Goran up ahead until Goran ran wide and by the start of lap 3 we had a Waza 1-2-3, with Hristo out front.

I thought to myself  " this is good, because I have Jethro IN FRONT where I won't be threatened by his late braking ;)" .  I can sit here for the next 30 laps and wait my chance.

But, Jethro is more skilled than I thought. Because even behind him I was not safe lol.
Exiting T3 he put a wheel on the grass and started spinning. I aimed where Jethro was making donuts in the hope that he would be gone before I got there.
Well he was, gone that is, but the sneaky blighter came back again!!!!! and I ended up spinning on that slippery Canadian grass as the whole field  paraded past and I was dead last....again. This is becoming a habit for me, must try and change this pattern. :-\

The rest of the race was a chase in my apparently unda,maged Cooper back up through the field until I caught Fulvio and his BT11. Although I was sligthtly faster, and could close up easily I just did not have the grunt to make a pass, and Fulvio never made a big enough mistake to create an opening.
About 15 laps of the race were spent looking at his gearbox until we crossed the line.

Grats to Hristo for the win. SHE will be pleased, just a shame I lost so much time early in the race and could not get near the podium.

To summen up this race: The art of being unhappy with 3rd position.

Grats to H and Natan.

I had a good start from my 3rd on the grid and found myself in second behind H when I noticed that I had Jethro behind me. That is not a position I really like, so I figured that I would make it easy for him to pass, which he did. The only problem was that some other guys followed him through so at the end of the first lap I was down to 5th.

Well, no problem, the race was long and I figured that things were going to happen, they usually do, and they did, so at the end of lap 6 I was back in second position.

The only problem was H. By now he was like 8 sec in front and doing more or less the same laptimes as me so no way I could catch him. But then, on lap 12, all of a sudden he was right in front of me, and the next 10 laps I could easily follow him wondering were I would be able to pass.

Then I did the mistake of the race, I looked at the pitboard and saw that it was 13 laps to go. My mind, my worst enemy, began thinking: "This can never go well", so off it went, my mind that is, to see where the best place to make a mistake were, and it chose the right hander after the long strait. So I went wide and lost sight of H but held on to second position. But my mind likes patterns so the next lap I did the same thing, and this time Natan got past me so now I was in 3rd.

To make the mistakes a triple I messed up when passing a smoking Lotus too but managed to hang on to 3rd although Fulvio  came a bit closer then I would have liked. But as a result I managed to put in the fastest lap of the race, if my replay is correct that is, so at the end of things I guess it went OK.

The problem is that I am getting the smell of victory now that Clive and Tim are put  in more appropriate cars and this time I really had a chance, well I don`t know if H would agree but I never been in a better Position anyway.

Göran

At least you had a green whizzy thing Clive!
I was feeling quite pleased with my qually time as it was totally Draft free! Then everyone snuck in faster laps in the final few minutes relegating me to mid field  :(

Got a good start and gained a place (maybe 2?) in the first few corners and even succeded in avoiding the pileup  ;D

After that I found myself behind Fulvio, who I was ever-so slightly faster than, must have spent nearly 10laps with only inches between my BT7's nose and his gearbox before I finally managed the jump I needed out of Moss to get along side before the hump. Fulvio backed off slightly early and gave me the place rather than fighting for it (as had happened for most corners throughout our battle!  :fencing: ) which allowed my to carry decent speed into and through the turn, This put me just ahead of Jethro who was rejoining nearly on the apex of the penultimate corner and allowed me to miss out on the accident I knew was about to happen...
About 3 laps later I threw away my incredibly hard fought gains by missing 4th gear at the end of the straight and spinning off onto the beach  ::)
Fulvio and Clive got passed before I rejoined, I thought 'nevermind, still time to catch them again' only to put a wheel in the grass under braking about half way round the next lap  :cursing:

Rejoined nearly half a mile behind them and just behind Bob - who may or may not have been on the lead lap (???) who I then chased until he binned it into the Armco approaching Moss.
Fairly happy with 6th I guess given the car, but gutted at loosing 4th (If I read Prib right then I may have had the chance to latch onto Goran near the end too :( )

Was VERY hard to drive at 100% for the hour and a bit of practice/race. I only hope it improves my concentration in the long run - at least I understand how Hristo crashes often even while leading now!

Result posted and replay (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/2010.06.15_Ams_Mosport/) uploaded so you can now submit any reports.

Welcome to my world!  ;D

Yeah, the BT7 takes a lot of effort if you want to keep up competitive for the whole race and that drains the life out of you. I had to lie down after yesterday's race as it was non-stop flat out in every single lap.

I was really happy with my Qualifying lap, but opted for a safer setup for the race, raising the suspension a couple of clicks to avoid bottoming out on full tanks down towards Moss. As it turned out, it was a good decision, though it made the car to understeer more and thus go slower.

I was relieved to see Natan bog down at the start because we always seem to have accidents whenever we race each other, so after a couple of laps and Jethro doing his usual thing, I had a comfortable lead in front.

To take Moss as fast as possible I had to keep sliding the car around a lot on the entry and exiting with opposite lock, so eventually that backfired and I spun when I had an 8 seconds lead on Goran. Thanks to that I still managed to continue JUST ahead of him, but it was very intense in the next 10 or so laps.

Goran was obviously very fast and the slipstream given from my car made him even faster, especially on the backstraight. I could gain some tenths here and there, but he would recover that in the last sector and put pressure on me. Each little mistake I did edged him closer and closer, so it was extremely important to get good exits out of Moss.

I could see he was easing off in places and probably timing his attack for the end of the race, but the off he had decided it in my favour. I still kept pushing just in case I have another problem and this allowed me to extend the lead over Natan and take the win.

Very good racing with Goran, but unfortunately (for him anyway  ;D) it didn't unfold to the end. Maybe next time.  ;)

ALL MY VICTORIES ARE BELONG TO HER!!!  :angel:

Disappointing to read that people are moving over to let Jethro pass rather than have him follow them.

I know why they would do that but it is not a good situation to have in a League............

ok , this time I submitted incident reports . 5 to be exactly . luckily my race wasnt longer then 1,5 laps .
otherwise it propably could have been a half days work to write all incident reports .

I had a reasonable quali but then was caught short and missed the start, nice!  Started from pit lane which I think put me a lapdown on prib.

I was doing okay climbing steadily until I saw a car rejoining with flagrant disregard for anyone approaching (turned out to be Turkey) whilst Tim and I were ending lap 12.  Turkey, you say you had a quick look at prib, was that to make sure 2 drivers were approaching and drive straight onto the racing line? I saw Tim got past but I was pushed wide off the racing line.  I seemed to have warp or lag...whatever, on my screen you dissappeared, but you were actually there, reappearing on the grass as we spun across it.  You shouldn't have even been there though.

I carried on but couldn't go as quick, in the end my monitor turned off and I stacked it, quality end!!!

its a fact that often Prib tells lies so not a good way to judge the proximity or thereabouts of approaching cars

Mk1 eyeball is best

Also listen out for approaching engine noise plus squeeling tyres (Hristo) tortured cams (Evil)

If you here a noise like splintering wood or falling trees , that'll be Jethro approaching  ;D

I am just writing to say that I shall not be taking part in the next few races.

Unfortunately I just dont have the time to learn the new tracks and be competitive. Also the races are too long, especially in the summer.

GLA  :)

Sry Nicky for not have apologized before, I was out of town for work. I think I have apologized to the wrong person in chat after the race, then I saw my replay and found that my bad rejoining move affected you and not Clutch. I'm very sorry if your race ended cause me.
Ciao

Mod report published

:) np Fulvio , wasnt you ended my race .but thanks for apologizes .

 :( it was Podkcrecony Ziutek  at L2 /Moss simply heavily crashed  into the rear of my BT11,
sent my car wide and make it explode….
btw. I am missing a mod report at least on that one……..
 :laugh:

Oops yes I forgot to upload that one.  Corrected now but it didn't change the results, Pod was last anyway.