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« on: April 17, 2010, 11:03:25 PM +0100 » |
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Problems connecting to the Lobby? Download this:All members welcomePractice 1: 19:20 (~60 mins) Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins) Race: 20:40 ( 27 laps (~40mins)) note: no warmup!Cars allowed: Lotus Elite Vs Mustang NTK gr5 Vs Mustang BSCC Gr2 (ATCC)Weather: DryTrack: UKGTR Brands Hatch 2005 GP (v1.0.1.0)Time of Day Setting: 15:00 Start: STANDINGTyre wear: x2Fuel consumption: x2Minimum Pit-stops: Only if you need one . Server: UKPnG2.1 Triple Password: see aboveNotes:(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage. (2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules especially the rules about in-game chat messages. (3) You will need to install Power and Glory v2 from here, 2.1 patch from here and enable terrain patch. (4) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of every-one's connection will be reduced.(6) Remember that P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function, but our gentleman's agreement is that everyone will stick to a speed limit for the pit-lane of 40mph/60kph.
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2010, 11:06:35 PM +0100 » |
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You might have just seen the available cars & thought "That's an odd line up"... and you'd be right.
We've tried this format once before & I was gutted to miss it, so it's back ... it's going to be a bit of a 'tortoise & hare' type race.... but where the fastest Elite+Mustang drivers finish together (I hope).Please pay extra attention to the race details for this one.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2010, 11:13:07 PM +0100 » |
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p.s. last time the Alpine had too big an advantage (i.e. its oponent the Mustang didn't make up enough time every lap to cover it's pit stop length), I fully anticipate this will be closer... if anything I'm worried the Mustang might have the edge this time. Please please can you do me a favour in the next couple of days if you do any testing & post your times for both cars. I will very quickly then be able to see if the ATCC is too quick & downgrade it to the TransAM or BSCC Gr5. Ta.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2010, 01:22:44 AM +0100 » |
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Isn't there a cheaty ATCC with something like 400 horsepower? It is the white one if memory serves me right.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2010, 11:22:58 AM +0100 » |
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I'll be glad when you get this out of your system Legzy, 'cos I think it sucks. Mainly because all the people who select the Lotus will ram into the back of those in Mustangs in the first few corners and totally destroy the whole "finely balanced" concept. My best is 1:46 in the ATCC #1 on its white spot tyres and 1:53 in the Elite. Should give me time for a shower and change of overalls, never mind tyres! It's also a bit of a bugger if we have to wait until Wednesday night before we find out which cars are going to be allowed. Why couldn't we just have an Elite race or a Mustang race or a Jaguar Owners Day? LOL Oh! And I can't stand tortoises either. Not that it matters much as two of my three test sessions have ended with a screen freeze.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2010, 02:10:48 PM +0100 » |
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That strikes me as a good mustang laptime but a carp Elite time I could do with a couple more times people when you can, particularly those who can excel in the elite. Sooner they come in, the sooner I can fix the mustang model (we don't want Clive waiting till Wednesday to find out )
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2010, 04:07:21 PM +0100 » |
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Had a couple of dozen laps here and my best so far is a 1:50.5xx. I should be able to get that down slightly with more practice, but it's a tricky track to be consistently quick in the Elite. A nice slow Mustang then please Legzy
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2010, 05:07:22 PM +0100 » |
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That strikes me as a good mustang laptime but a carp Elite time LOL Perhaps there is a sneaky fast Elite with sticky boots as well? I can't get the setups out to the lads if I don't know which cars to use. EDIT EuK! Someone please tell Legzy what he wants to know about the Elite. Another test session and another screen freeze with the gutless understeering heap now logged. I never get to save my setups because I have to hit the reset but still not bettered a high 53. EDIT 2 If Legzy gets this right on the basis of qualifying times I shall be amazed. Whereas the Elite is its normal turgid self if run from now until doomsday, the tyre wear and heating on the Mustangs lead to all manner of changes. I find that I cannot do as good a TT lap as I can practice because the TT lap starts with all the tyres in the green zone. The first lap is no use because I can’t start it at the right pace and on the second lap the tyre balance is all pollocks!
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2010, 01:30:30 PM +0100 » |
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Had a couple of dozen laps here and my best so far is a 1:50.5xx. I should be able to get that down slightly with more practice, but it's a tricky track to be consistently quick in the Elite. Do you have a MoTeC data file for that lap please Tudor? I want to know where the other three seconds are lurking! You must be flat through something that I think is a corner. I'll swap you an ATCC lap.
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2010, 01:51:17 PM +0100 » |
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Clive, you have mail
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2010, 06:05:29 PM +0100 » |
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Yep, ta and so do you.
And I'm getting all excited...................
Only another two days before we find out what we can drive!
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2010, 07:28:23 PM +0100 » |
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Did a few laps in both. Best in the Elite was a 49.8, which would come down a bit with practice. In the ATCC I got a 44.7 but that was on white spot tyres which disappear at an alarming rate. On harder rubber the laptime would probably be a bit slower - not sure how much though. I had About 6 gallons in the elite and 11 in the ATCC.
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2010, 07:42:10 PM +0100 » |
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White ATCC 1:47.2 White Elite 1:53.2
Took me 7 laps to get a complete one in with Elite, so I got bored and quit. Never liked Elite Tried the Blue ATCC with less power, and was around 2 secs slower in it All times with race fuel.
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2010, 10:23:25 PM +0100 » |
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OK thanks all, enough of you have shown that I can't drive a Stang for carp. The ATCC (with your times) is obviously too fast, so I've added some other Stangs to the mix to test. I'm going on the server now for some testing with Spanner if you're bored... I'll make a call tonight/2moz.
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2010, 12:16:15 AM +0100 » |
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Cars allowed: Lotus Elite Vs Mustang BSCC Gr2 (ATCC)Tyre wear: x2Fuel consumption: x2Minimum Pit-stops: Only if you need one . (6) Remember that P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function, but our gentleman's agreement is that everyone will stick to a speed limit for the pit-lane of 40mph/60kph. OK, the Mustang ATCC has been downgraded to the Mustang BSCC GR2. Allowing for the Stang's pitstop, we should now have a close finish (I hope) .
I've also quoted the most important bits of info about the race above... taking it easy through the early turns (particularly the first four!) on Lap one goes without saying!
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