UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Le Mans - Dec 12

[Clive Loynes]

.................. They'd never have such a long 1st gear for a start!

Bet they did.     The GTLWorkshop couldn't possibly have made that up.

It's built for the Mulsanne Straight and not for mincing about through the Porsche Curves.

And Matt's glorious win was on the '72 track.

I think that the abandoned 911 might be supposed to be that of Steve McQueen from the film.  And that was '72 as well.

Oh!  And you can't have a 917 as it never ran on this version of the track and neither did the Pantera for that matter, as far as I know.  They had put the Ford Chicane in by the time that the 917 was sorted. 

[Wiltshire Tony]

And you can't have a 917 as it never ran on this version of the track and neither did the Pantera for that matter, as far as I know.  They had put the Ford Chicane in by the time that the 917 was sorted.  

Correct https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12087#event3821

[Mark J]

.................. They'd never have such a long 1st gear for a start!

It's built for the Mulsanne Straight and not for mincing about through the Porsche Curves.

Oh!  And you can't have a 917 as it never ran on this version of the track and neither did the Pantera for that matter, as far as I know.  They had put the Ford Chicane in by the time that the 917 was sorted. 

If your in first gear in the Porsche curves your doing something very wrong 
Surely they would still use a short 1st gear for the few slow corners then space 2nd to 4th to suit the rest of the track. Be a bast getting this off the line or out of the pits!

[Geoffers]

Don't worry about the abandoned 911, you can drive straight through it! 

[Mark J]

Don't worry about the abandoned 911, you can drive straight through it! 

Now now Geoffers we don't condone that type of thing here!  only you aliens always find out these things I find  I made every effort to avoid it on my laps 

Maybe I'm not driving it right but I was also looking forward to sliding the GT a bit through corners like tetre rouge and arnage but it's just sluggish  I've got an old footage GT40 DVD and it's being chucked about in fine style with a bit of decent power slide in tighter turns to keep momentum up.
Would reducing lock help?

[Bob]

  I'm afraid I am going to go for one of the slower cars tomorrow night, it's the only way I can complete a full lap without hitting concrete straw bails or being dropped into the jaws of hell at Arnage.  Will be interesting to see how many survive the first lap as the slightest mistake is severely punished here.

[Mark J]

this 60's layout would make for a good future 60's GT class race, using the Fezzas, vettes and E-types etc. 

But do think we would have been better off using the VLM 70 for these GT40's.    oh well, will hopefully be a challenge without too much carnage or retirements ! 

[Geoffers]

Now now Geoffers we don't condone that type of thing here!  only you aliens always find out these things I find  I made every effort to avoid it on my laps 

Maybe I'm not driving it right but I was also looking forward to sliding the GT a bit through corners like tetre rouge and arnage but it's just sluggish  I've got an old footage GT40 DVD and it's being chucked about in fine style with a bit of decent power slide in tighter turns to keep momentum up.
Would reducing lock help?

Oh I didn't drive through it on purpose, like you I was making every effort to avoid it, but on (one of) the laps I got it wrong I couldn't avoid it & was bracing myself for the crash & heypresto a ghost 911! Actually on the (well, my) correct line through the corner you should comfortably miss it.

Don't know about reducing the lock, I always use max lock & 100% steering sensitivity, otherwise I find all the cars a bit unresponsive. But that is just personal preference. I did find that lowering the tyre pressures helped, particularly the fronts which seemed far too high on default. Apart from that I guess its just a matter of playing with the brake bias & diff settings as little else is adjustable.
I'm sure the real aliens (Italians & John!) will get under 3.30 with it but I still can't better 3.33.

[phspok]

Reminder: We are not using either of the VLM versions because the GT40s and even more so
the Vette take off in an uncontrollable way over the hump before Mulsanne corner
True you can slow down, but in the heat of battle peple will likely push the limit and there
would likely to be an almightly crash fest on the 1st or 2nd lap.
This 60 version has "features"
1: It's quite narrow, in my quick test I could stay on one half of the road easy enough
so I don't see it as an issue.
2: There are no barriers/fences to stop you leaving the circuit at some places, anyone who
goes down a hole in the space time continuum probably made an error so it's their fault
rather than being an inocent bystander in someone elses error at Mulsanne.
3: This is what happens when anarchy rules, and you all vote for a track that doesn't go through
the normal test methods 

[Mark J]

Cool and perfect for this race - footage:

GT40 at Le Mans '69 onboard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmA01dUhdPY

take note of his commentary:-  "any car ahead within 200m that makes a change of direction you are most likely going to hit! as you cannot stop in time" - so no unnecessary moving around guys!

Also liked " we have to stop from 200+mph down to 30mph within 300m at the end of the Mulsanne"    Try doing that in the race and stopping in time!  

and theres this:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMzgeEWqXPQ

whets the appetite 

[Colin Paxton]

Cracking films...makes me want to install PnG!

[Clive Loynes]

Cracking films...makes me want to install PnG!

And so you should Colin.

Not heard of TRB since you took the wooden spoon in that karting event in Milton Keynes!   

[Colin Paxton]

Hi Clive, Rik B has that prize down in Mid Wales still!

I'm downloading the files as I type and as for TBR, well I'm not sure whether I'll carry on with it, just can't figure out how to quit in the team section here!

[goldtop]

And you can't have a 917 as it never ran on this version of the track and neither did the Pantera for that matter, as far as I know.  They had put the Ford Chicane in by the time that the 917 was sorted.  

Correct https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12087#event3821

Gotta say that if you enjoy these cars then you really ought to fire up GT Legends and see what Tony has lined up for us next season   You can even transfer your PnG ffb settings to make GTL feel better than ever and if you don't already own a copy of GTL, it's now available cheaply on Steam.

Details of the season are here......

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=414&theme=5

[Mark J]

Looks pretty nifty GT and Tony  might be worth me reinstalling it all just to race those babies