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Title: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 20, 2007, 05:23:41 PM +0100
All members welcome.

Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (18 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Buenos Aires GP v1.0 (download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#msg54520))
Cars allowed: Austin Healey 3000, Renault Alpine A110, Ferrari 275GTB.
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Start: STANDING

Server: UKGTL Classics Cup
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=65)
(4) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.5 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Tibernius on December 07, 2007, 01:39:58 PM +0000
Healey or Alpine, hard to choose.  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 08, 2007, 02:49:49 PM +0000
Healey or Alpine, hard to choose.  ???

Easy choice for me...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Syd Drake on December 14, 2007, 07:01:54 PM +0000
Why not Ferrari?
I can't find this track on GTL rank, and there are no submitted times for it on nogrip. So how do these cars compare?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Tibernius on December 14, 2007, 07:33:40 PM +0000
Why not Ferrari?

:o Why not Ferrari?! :o

>:( Because I hate Ferrari.

No other reason than that.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Mike Hammer on December 14, 2007, 10:47:17 PM +0000
So how do these cars compare?

Univeral ranking: Unless there's *very* long straights, it's Renault, Ferrari, Healy. Renault is controlled driving, lightest car, so has least tirewear, but might find it difficult to pass a protective V12 Ferrari. Healey is right hand steering, I mean, who can really drive like that, not me  ;D ;D ;D

I think I'll be in the Fezza, though I'll give the Healy a few test laps. Ferrari is great fun going sideways, nice engine sound to boot.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Syd Drake on December 14, 2007, 10:54:46 PM +0000
I prefer heavy cars, so I guess it'll be ferrari for me too.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Simon Gymer on December 15, 2007, 09:50:49 AM +0000
I can't find this track on GTL rank, and there are no submitted times for it on nogrip. So how do these cars compare?

Favorably. ;)

I think the Alpine will be quite good round here actually cause it's quite twisty.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 15, 2007, 07:02:50 PM +0000
nice track...if a little narrow, nice and technical.
Has anyone got some times?
In the Fezza I'm into low 2.11's atm.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Jeffrey on December 15, 2007, 07:51:49 PM +0000
In the Fezza I'm into low 2.11's atm.

In the Healy I'm doing high 2:09's low 2:10's and in the Fezza I'm a second quicker. I was afraid the Ferrari would be quicker, especially when it's turning out to be a Fezzafest  :P.
But I'll stick with the more enjoyable Healy ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Mr.BMW on December 15, 2007, 10:46:01 PM +0000
I guess i'll be the only one in an Alpine


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Tibernius on December 16, 2007, 06:32:31 PM +0000
I guess i'll be the only one in an Alpine

I'll be driving an Alpine as well. 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: madmac on December 17, 2007, 08:06:35 AM +0000
Assuming I am fit enough I will be in the Alpine as well. Probably a blue one!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: MortenS on December 17, 2007, 03:44:14 PM +0000
Finally I've got my posting permissions back ;)

I'll probably be in the Alpine as well.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Steve Holmes on December 17, 2007, 04:35:38 PM +0000
I'll probably be driving the fast-train to oblivion, it being the season to get extremely merry, on Thursday.  Shame, woulda been fun, see everyone next year, have a good holiday.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Lee. on December 18, 2007, 01:44:58 PM +0000
im in a healy, looks like im well slow compared to u guys. great track aswell im enjoying the practice. looks like i ll be gettin lapped again  :2guns: :surrender:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: will16v on December 18, 2007, 03:33:02 PM +0000
Someone take my skinned Alpine for this if you want, 'cos i won't be there to race it due to system probs  ::)
Its very nice ;D
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x274/will_16v/alp1.jpg)
Don't scratch it though.. >:(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: MortenS on December 18, 2007, 03:37:03 PM +0000
I'll problably use the Team Shark one ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Tibernius on December 18, 2007, 04:11:35 PM +0000
Someone take my skinned Alpine for this if you want, 'cos i won't be there to race it due to system probs  ::)
Its very nice ;D
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x274/will_16v/alp1.jpg)
Don't scratch it though.. >:(

I'll have that! ;D
Then JB can use his own car, and there'll be more than one pattern of Alpine in the race. 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Mr.BMW on December 19, 2007, 08:04:14 PM +0000
After a week of practice, I can officially say I hate this track :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 19, 2007, 08:52:55 PM +0000
I still struggle to remember which of the right handers I can take flat or nearly flat. Did a 2:10 on the server earlier in the Big Healey, for once softer appears to be better for me at least.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: MortenS on December 19, 2007, 10:28:39 PM +0000
Not sure if the Alpine is the right car for me here anyway, it seems to be a bit heavy at the rear for this twisty track. But we'll see.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Minton on December 20, 2007, 09:28:04 AM +0000
After a week of practice, I can officially say I hate this track :)

Track is awesome  ;D ..smoothness is the key round here.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 20, 2007, 10:30:25 AM +0000
Track is awesome  ;D ..smoothness is the key round here.

I'll do my best to produce smooth white tyre smoke then! :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Tibernius on December 20, 2007, 10:35:58 AM +0000
Track is awesome  ;D ..smoothness is the key round here.

So that's why I'm slower than Ruskus! ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Jeffrey on December 20, 2007, 11:01:15 AM +0000
So that's why I'm slower than Ruskus! ;)

I am far from smooth  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Simon Gymer on December 20, 2007, 12:53:19 PM +0000
I am far from smooth  ;D

He's a rough operator, rough......operator, he's a rough operator *sax*


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: ginsters sponsored on December 20, 2007, 01:16:37 PM +0000
He's a rough operator, rough......operator, he's a rough operator *sax*

I think you've just missed 90% of your target audience there old fella. I got you though :)

Crimbo grief means that I'm an unlikely starter tonight. Try and have fun without me.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: MortenS on December 20, 2007, 07:15:23 PM +0000
This track or track/car combo is not for me apparently :wheelchair: Have fun tonight.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Mr.BMW on December 20, 2007, 07:22:27 PM +0000
I am far from smooth  ;D

He's a rough operator, rough......operator, he's a rough operator *sax*

I like Sade!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Mr.BMW on December 20, 2007, 09:42:09 PM +0000
Fun Race, although after about lap 5 I was pretty isolated.

Gave Blunder an ugly tap early on, sorry for that - feel free to submit an incident report.
I locked up and slid into you into the turn causing you to spin.

Was good in 11th till Lee showed up out of nowhere with about 5 laps to go. Couldn't keep consistent enough with that little tyre tread left and Lee zipped by me in only 2 laps. Had a large gap between Lee and whoever was behind me in 13th, and finished the race as I spent most of it.

Nice work to Oily! That 9th place finish should get us some points in the Team Championship! :)

Good race all, had fun!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Tibernius on December 20, 2007, 09:45:26 PM +0000
Pretty boring race for me, I don't like the track and I'm not too fond of the car either... >:(
I also got Disqualified after the race had finished for going the wrong way, while I was doing doughnuts. :o

Maybe the next race will be a bit more interesting...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Jeffrey on December 20, 2007, 09:48:29 PM +0000
Wasn't surprised to be outrun by those Ferrari's (or Ferraris?) and had to try and get a good start to prevent a Fezza behind me from flying past.

Had a decent start and could just keep keith behind me. After half a lap already I got spun around by an Alpine, who didn't wait  >:(.
I dropped from 5th to 10th because of that. Had some nice side by side action with Simon, and later I had to follow Dave for a few laps before I could find a way past. Nice driving Gymer brothers, very clean and good fun.
Later I was behind Dan, who was really struggling with his Ferrari (or Ferraris?:P) and I was waiting for him to go off somewhere. But he held it pretty good sometimes, nice sideways action :). But at some point his lost a bit too much momentum and I could overtake before the last corner. I expected to be shot by on the straight again, but somehow that didnt happen.

I was gaining on Keith, and at the finish right behind him ;D. Would have been hard to overtake a Ferrari (or Ferraris?) anyway, so saying maybe one more lap won't be accurate ;D.

See ya next time and hopefully tomorrow (Caterhams's's -> Race'07!).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Lee. on December 20, 2007, 09:53:23 PM +0000
great race tonight as always. 1st few laps were well good until i forgot to brake  :oops: :cursing: then spun again on the next lap at the same place. ah well. had a great race with blunder  :thumbup2: and another ferrari for most of the race. real close racing. sorry to the few people i made contact with, did wait for u. hope i didnt ruin your races, i know what its like when u get hit.

i found it very fair again, cant wait till next week. thanks guys  :punk:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Jeffrey on December 20, 2007, 09:54:13 PM +0000


Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/GTL Buenos Aires 20-12-2007/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Tibernius on December 20, 2007, 09:54:38 PM +0000
Wasn't surprised to be outrun by those Ferrari's (or Ferraris?) and had to try and get a good start to prevent a Fezza behind me from flying past.

Sorry Shark...


English lesson of the day...plurals don't use apostorpheys, not even acronyms. :P :P :-*


 :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: ossie on December 20, 2007, 09:58:07 PM +0000
Managed to get a good 6th on the grid in qually above all other alpines.  Race started ok and found myself in 5th, found the back end of Ruskus which really surprised me as I didn't expect him to be so slow into the corner.(many appologies, totally my fault).  I then completely missed my braking point at the worst turn and ended up collecting s**t loads of gravel.  This left me in 9th, about half way through the race the two cars in front of me collided with a back marker I assume and I had to guide my way through the debris to collect 7th.

The rest of the race I was  :fencing: dabbling with Gizmos healy which was a total blast.  Some nice driving by the fore mentioned and would urge hime to drive GTL more frequently so we could have more of the same.  On the final lap Dan spun and rejoined behind Gizmo just in front of me and I had to ease slightly incase I collided.  Finished 7th, but think I could have finished slightly higher if I hadn't of made any mistakes.

Once again a big appology to Ruskus for rear ending him. :death:

 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 20, 2007, 10:04:35 PM +0000
Managed a pb by over a second in quali then made a too conservative start and Baracus got past me, with Dan in hot pursuit!

Settled down into a rhythm and watched as Baracus slowly got further away until he made a mistake and both Dan and myself got past. Baracus quickly caught back up and got past Dan after a slight error and was on my tail again, we were mere inches apart at some points but it was fantastic, there was a minor incident but we both carried on and were fighting tooth and nail for an advantage with Baracus getting a better drive out of a corner to pass me under braking. :surrender:

I just tried to keep in touch as best I could trying to save my tyres and was given a pressie when Baracus made a mistake under braking and I retook the lead. :sweatdrop:

Once again after a few laps he was with me again and another fight ensued, eventually and thankfully he dropped back slightly and I managed to hold on for the win by the skin of my teeth!  :jumpjoy:

I must reiterate as to what a fantastic scrap we had, one of the best, thanks Baracus!  :thumbup1:  :fencing:

Plus congrats to Keith for 3rd and a big thankyou to all the backmarkers, very good and fair. :yes:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup - Buenos Aires (GP) - Dec 20
Post by: Minton on December 20, 2007, 10:09:44 PM +0000
Done a pb in quali but no match for Madd and Bara.    Got a decent start and settled in behind Matt who took a couple of laps to get into his groove..once he did he started to pull away . From then on 3rd was mine to loose and i did as i made too many mistakes , every time i gained Keith ( i think) i would f**k up and loose ground. Jeff caught me after i made another mistake and i tried my best to keep him behind but got off line in one of the right handers and he got past done the back straight.   Best mistake of all was thinking my headlights were assigned to my sequential gear shifter when 1st gear was assigned to it, so as i flashed a back marker for letting me through i went from 4 to 1st then backwards onto the grass , this let dave through for 5th.
Grats to the podium and jeff and dave on good drives