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NGT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 9 at Estoril

Date: Tuesday 28th February

Practice 1: 8:30pm (15 mins)
Qual 2: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (40 mins)

Cars allowed: Ferrari 360, Porsche 911 GT3-RS, Porsche 911 Bi-Turbo, Mosler, Vertigo or Morgan. (Lotus Elise, BMW Z3M, Porsche GT3 Cup are allowed but will not score points.)

Notes:
(1) Full time drivers should arrive during Practice 1 if possible. Reserve Drivers can take spots AFTER 8:40pm (5 mins to go in practice 1) to give Full Timers a big enough chance to join.
(2) Server Password has been emailed to those registered racers for the relevant race. Please contact a member of the admin team to get the password if you are registered and have forgotten or not received the password. It will not be given out in the GTR chatroom as that is a public place. The password wont change for the season unless there are security concerns.
(3) See  UKGTR Sprint Season 2 Info (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=10) for general Season 2 info.
(4) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7)

is it v1.4 or v1.5 for this race ??

1.4 stnasky

I'm looking forward to this one  :)

It'll be over in a flash compared to those Endurance races!

Team Shark should be out in force tonight in a push for the team championship!

But Shark, the server limit is 24. There will be no room for all 85 of you!  :D  ;)

I think you've mistaken us for penguins. Sharks swim in small groups, penguins huddle in huge numbers.
But our size, power and skill is what keeps us ahead of those pesky penguins.

 ;D

Wait until we rename ourselves to PIRANHAS!   >:D >:D >:D

Apologies for leaving early, I`m just so pi**ed off. Had a good quali, 15th, highest yet, and then drove like a complete t**t. Must have spun it at least once on every lap!! I didnt even do that when I was new to this.

What a w**ker!!!!!!

Cheers

Rob

PS we dont run a swearing jar do we?

Damn.  >:(

Was running a respectable 9th in my Morgan with 16 minutes to go, then my PC locked up.  >:( Hope I didn't leave a ghost car on the server in an awkward position.

You did Aaagram  :'(, put paid to me. Shame, I bet you were having as much fun as I was, best 15 minutes of racing Ever  ;D. Sorry Picnic just didn't see you there.

Hope Mo has brought home the bacon.

my first no finish :(, but what a race at the back of the field, well done to all in that battle we might not have the pace but we sure can race! :)

Lol now you know why I always start at the back of the grid  ;) lol

What a race that was! Eventful is NOT the word!  :P

Qualified in 4th, taking a big chunk off my PB (and ahead of Sharky! nyah! nyah!  :-*), was getting all ready to kick Shark's ass in the race (actually I was cacking myself  :)) when I got nerfed off by my own team-mate into turn one! :D The replay will definately be one for the scrapbook! Jonzo you stooopid eeeeejit!

Had to wait for the entire field to pass me, then drove one of my best races ever to claw all the way back up to 5th!

Seriously getting fed up with my total lack of ability at the moment  :'( It must be a concentration thing because I was not pushing hard, just trying to be sensible but I still can't stop the thing from swapping ends on slow speed corners for no good reason.

I think it's me who has to appologise SbG. I shouldn't have been there.

Think I'll take up crochet

Really really chuffed with 3rd position. I think I really deserved it as well, paced myself and made no mistakes. Really chuffed.

Qualified 5th just behind Popabawa, 0.1 off my Morgan PB, although I think there is probably a few tenths in that setup still. Was ready for a really hard race as I knew the Porsches would be able to easily pass my Morgan down the main straight.

Onto the race and I couldn't believe my luck on lap one when MarkJ harpooned his team mate Popabawa into T1 and made my life much easier. You must be gutted, but at least you made one person happy.  ;) ;D Sorry (yeah right). :P After that it was a case of just driving my own race, not really racing anybody at all tbh. Mo quickly made some errors and dropped back giving me 3rd and then Leuven decided the gravel traps werent raked enough and put his BiTurbo in them a couple of times to even the sand out. When he came up to pass me he just flew by on the straight and I knew I couldn't match his car or driver pace so put up no fight what-so-ever. Of course just to rub in the straight line speed difference he had he went off again just so he could whoosh past me on the straight again  ;) :o

Felt such a short race compared to Sunday's endurance race, but I whooped for joy as crossed the line for an unlikely podium in the Morgan which was again severly outclassed by the Porsches.

Well done to RichA for a fine win.

Nice one Pops, those come back drives are always great fun. 5th is excellent from there.

OMG, think I managed a top 10 finish ;D
Feel sorry for SBG, he was in front of me when Aagramn's car was left ghosting on the track and I saw him going flying off :-\
Had a few good battles along the way, no huge overtaking moves but trying to keeping people honest.
Great race, more like that for me please ;D

Sh*t, b*gger and damnnation  >:( :'(

Needed to get that off my chest !

After a fantastic qualifying battle with times being swapped all through the session, ended up 6th with a PB of 1:41.56.

Unfortunately i made the cardinal error of changing a spring setting to the front of the Porker just before race and it totally ferked the balance of the front of the car.
The race started immediately badly when i took my team mate out at turn 1 under braking, i dont know whether pops and shark braked that bit harder as they were side by side but i just slid into the back of Pops and spun him around allowing that slippery shark through....note to self...take out opponents, not team mates ::)
Needless to say i was mortified.  :-[Lost a few places myself, then had a great 10 minute battle with SBG until the first of my slow speed spins >:(
It just wouldnt grip through the slower turns and i had about 8 really annoying slow speed spins and gradually slipped down the order each time from a high 5th down to about 11th.
The car was like bambi on ice with the tyres feeling shagged with 15 minutes still remaining on the clock. I caught back up to 6th, 7th and 8th only for the car to slide off again on the penultimate turn (3 times off there..grrrr).

Finished 9th and totally cheesed off as i normally run well here and know i (usually) had a good race setup...pants. >:(

Thank god you got a 5th Pops...i'll un-tie this belt from around my neck now and get off this wobbly chair  :-[

Cheers Shark. After all my disconnects earlier in the season it felt really good to drive well and get back in the points!

And I would have kicked your ass, you know that right?

Replay (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/Estoril%20-%20NGT%20Sprint%20S2%20280206.zip) and provisional results are posted

Edit - fixed URL.

Cheers Picnic.

Congrats to Rich on a fine win on a tough track.
That qualifying session was one of the best yet with some really close times, 0.04 between me and Rich with Pops only a tenth behind us.

The race was a disaster for me - first the bumps caught me out under braking at turn 7 and I went fying off down the escape road.
I then pushed too hard to close the gap to Shark down to 4 secs and then spun again. Proceeded to repeat the catching up and spinning twice more and ended up smashing the car and having to pit and finally finishing in 13th.

Great to see such a competitive field and grats to Pops too for fighting all the way back up there.

Thanks Picnic.

Sorry to hear that SBG.  :( I'll give my computer a slap for you.

Took me a while to get the hang of Estoril again, had a 30 min practise before the race and was all over the place. Managed a new PB in qualifying to net 9th, but my race pace was much slower. Had one spin trying to get the power down after the chicane, and ran wide which let a recovering Popa past. Would have been tough for me to hang on to 9th, there were a couple quicker cars behind me.

Good win by Rich, and good to see a Morgan on the podium.

Barring any penalties, Mo has wrapped up the Drivers championship. Although Truetom could go level on points with him at Monza with a non finish from Mo and a win from TrueTom, Mo would win on the count of having more victories. So congratulations Mo, well deserved! The fight for 2nd and 3rd spots are not over, but they are again pretty certain, bar any major problems for the top 3 that is how the positions will remain after the last round at Monza.

The Team championship is still open between 3 teams now (Zip, CBFR and Kerb Krawlers), with Team Shark and NGT Legends not able to make up the points to Ze Insane Penguins after Estoril's race. Team Shark look to have 4th in the team championship but we need to be careful those pesky NGT Legends don't overtake.

I'm really not looking forward to Monza, it's one of my worst tracks and the Morgan is going to get trounced by everything under the sun down the long straights so if I make top 3 again it will be a miracle.

Slap it hard Aagram as that was simply the best race I've had  ;).

Can I ask (beg) for another season of sprints? With everyone so close, and knowing each other, there is still plenty to be had from GTR.

Well said SBG!

The racing has been simply awesome for the last few months in GTR as everyone has got closer and closer in terms of abilty.

It would be great to have another season of sprints the last few races I've done have been some of my best on line experiences playing games. Well done to Mo on the championship from what Ive seen you deserved it, great pace at all tracks.

Here here.

Fairly good race, would have been great to follow your bi-turbo Leuv.. it's good practice to race close and at speed.:P A thing worth getting used to imo.

Had some pace here cause I did a fair bit of practice and reading this week. Been trying some new things on 996, felt ok but not what i'm used to!

Thought you might have kept pace with me Mo until the end and maybe I would have had to go defensive - but you disappeared from my view and so I got down to learning 996 some more.

Saw a F360 speed on pitlane but don't know who it was.

My first ever race in the BiTurbo ever, so even though I had quite a few "offs" I'm pretty pleased to have finished 2nd, (pretty pleased to have finished at-all TBH)
 
I've never really liked Estoril that much (unless Im watching motoGP there;D ) as Im pretty crap there, so I thaught I'd take a dodgy car to a dodgy track.

It probably would have worked if i had used Medium rears instead of Hards(urgh :wetfish:)
but it think it would still have been tricky nenetheless.

Even though the BiTurbo has more power I did notice that I still had to try very hard to get close to you Shark through the last few turns/hairpins as I'd not be close enough to out drag you, which happened on one occasion.

A few more races at Estoril and I might start to like it. ;)

Good win Rich, you was consistent all the way through and after my first spin I knew that Id have to push hard to catch you which is probably part of the reaon I went off to plough the gravel traps again as Shark said ;D

I think Id like another Sprint season, as Its time I did a full season  :P. just hope I can get the time to be at every race.

Cheers Shark I hadn't noticed that, but I'm gonna wait til Monza to open the beers. If I drive as badly  as I did tonight TT could stilll win it!
I did notice though that the GT points are looking interesting with a possibility of Greg, TT and me having a tie with JonM (only because he's not here  :P)

One thing is for sure - the pace has really come on as the qual session tonight showed....all looking very pro indeed 8)

Another season would certainly give some of the closest racing ever so it gets my vote for sure :)

Olla,

Had a better race than the last 2! :) Luckily, since I had almost lost interest in GTR. Took the f360 out for a spin today; the Yokohama one btw ;). With which I have a hard time pushing it round this track, so ended up 13th or so in quali. Race was good fun, had some nice battles with Jan B. Spun pwetty early on, but managed to keep it on the track for the rest of the race. Tires worn in the end so was happy to see Mo had problems, else he would have easily overtaken me in the last couple of laps! :D Congrats to him on winning the championship of course! :D Now let's try for another Team Champ! ZiPpers :D Ended 6th which has made me pwetty happy! :D

Race ye later,

T

I've never liked Estoril, dont know why but always seem to be way off the pace there, hence another dismal qualifying position of 12th.
Was going along steadily and up to 9th when I was punted off, rough justice for my mistake at Magny, not to worry.
Finished in 12th after lots of mistakes, oh well.
I do hope this track isnt included in gtr2.

Too bad I missed the first NGT race in Barcelona (full server), I guess every race counts in the championship.  :)

Estoril race was rathwer uneventful, I'm satisfied that I made no mistakes of notice, pretty consistant, though quite slow race pace. Qualed 10th and through mistakes of others managed to come to 4th place, which is good, considering a poor achivement in quali time.

At teh end Popabawa was coming really close, couldn't match his pace. Two more laps and he would be in front of me, I would have no chance on a start/finish straight. Good race, Popa!  :)

Also a good result for THE Penguin Tyf, also for Gerald and too bad for Jam who didn't finish.

Go Penguins, one more race to the NGT championship win!  8)

Hi Guys I was a plonker had a good set up and got up to about 12 at one point but then fell over several cars in the slow corners and spun by avoiding them . Some effort to get into server wrong version wrong car so took a game car.I dont run mid field enough to be used to other cars.I was loosing about 2 to 3 secs a lap when following exept when I was lapped and found I could follow that car and not loose to much time. I am on Hlos at present and spent time praccy and setting up the car and it showed. Please Please can we have another sprint season . Is there a way of getting some british circuits and running a GT championship with some continental away races.That was really a fun race and actually felt like I was in charge of car rather than it me. cheers for now gerald.

It was also very wierd after Endurance seeing Pops in a blue 911 instead of his nice orange and grey one. Hope the skin pack works out in Endurance so we can use it in Sprints next time too.

I wouldn't mind painting a F360.. but we shall see.

I noticed on results that my 996 is named 911 and also the 996 I was in i'm fairly sure uses Yokohama tyres but on results it says Dunlop.. well it has Yokohama sponsor on bonnet - it's the Seikel car. There must be a list somewhere of all tyres used by different cars?

Yeah, it was a bit drab after the Endurance races. It amazing how much difference it makes to the whole atmosphere of the race having the team skins in there.

And in GTL please!

Hi guys,

My first race here ,enjoyed it very much.Must apologize to Greg130,clipped you just a bit and you spun,awful,hope you dont feel too bad about it.
Got 7th after bad quali, hope i can join again on Monza.Season 3 would be more then welcome.

Jan

996 is the internal model name for what is sold as the 911.

I don't believe that GTR has any actual Yokohama tyres modelled - I think they cheated and reused the Dunlop model for Yokohama-tyred cars. I'll check when I have time.

Yes, I think on the actual tyre it still says Dunlop despite the Yoko sponsorship on the car.

The 911 is referred to as 996 right throughout the game, including the garage screens, despite it all being the same car as the 911 really, unless they use 996 as the race version of the 911 road car?

I like the idea of carpack for next sprint season.

It can coincide with Endurance update too np. Then one carpack is used for Endurance and Sprint easy..

Er, one thing I would like done for carpack is a couple of regulations. One being the number board and the other the window banner.

I will provide templates and a guide.

Errr.... Can you explain exactly what you mean and why you think it's necessary?

I mean using FIA GT 2003 number board with 2003 font. I can prepare both for easy pasting onto a skin..

The window banner I think ought to be default FIA GT 2003 one tbh and then if you want to have reference to SimRacing.org.uk it will be added somewhere else on car. This too is very easy to do cause it's only matter of select/copy/paste from original GTR .dds file.

The reason for this is purely because I think it's good habbit to get into. When FIA GT cars are made, they too are given certain regulations like this so it seems fitting imo to do the same. Literally like putting your own team into FIA GT and of course you've got the rest of the car to do what you like with, within reason.

I would think if we are going to standardise on a number board and banner (which I'm not keen on cause I don't want to have to redo any of my cars AGAIN! I have 6 now!) then it should reference SimRacing not FIA GT. If this is a car pack for SimRacing then it should not be standard 2003 FIA GT as they are precisely not that.

Have a look at the windscreen banner on the team shark cars, that has a SimRacing banner and the number board is also UKGTR/SimRacing specific...
(http://www.teamshark.org.uk/images/gallery/TS_Lambo_-_Render_01.jpg)

Although it might be nice, I am not particularly keen of forcing everyone to have a standard banner or number board at this stage as the cars are already done.

Hey, why is the driver stuck in your Lambourghini in your render. You know you can hide everything then unhide individual objects and then edit or even delete them. Like this is how I put some camber and toe on my tyres and deleted driver. Think it's in options when right click..

Yur I agree it's too late..

Well, in the future I would like these things considered i.e GTR2. If we run with GTR2 cars too imo it's better to use their standard regulations. Yes it's SimRacing.org.uk league however I think the default GTR car drivers will feel less intimidated by SimRacing.org.uk cars if there is some common standardization. Something to discuss at a later date for sure..

Were you see that to?

http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/1786803038__AppJ_2004_Art_258.pdf

I completely disagree.

We're NOT entering an FIA GT series. This is a game. There are no regulations unless we impose them and I don't want to see any introduced.

The cars look great at the moment and some will take advantage of the mid-season refresh to make them look even better but I don't like the idea of being forced into updating all 4 of my team cars (to me completely unnecessarily).

Pops

I have seen some cars with different window banners, but they definitely use the same number board and number board font. Well, this is something to be done for next time np.

You know this thing could be taken into the logistics of team management i.e funds, awards, sponsoships, costs ect. But this is very complex and not worth it on GTR.  ;)

I didn't really know which style of numbering to use, or were to put them, on my skins. Perhaps some guidelines for next set might be a good idea.

Guidelines are fine. Regulations aren't :)

I'm working on a big guide encompassing all guides i've done so watch out for it..

In the mean time here's blank FIA 03 blank number board http://www.auyu41.dsl.pipex.com/FIA%20GT%20Number%20board.pspimage

And here's the font's they use in FIA 03 http://www.auyu41.dsl.pipex.com/Numbers.psd [You'll have to select them, copy and paste]  .. my guides explain how to do this at bottom of this page https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1103.75

.. regulations are an important part of a society and/or an organisation. They have their purpose and are usually for a very good reason. They provide structure and stability, they promote a caring authoritative atmosophere which harvest's a sense of well being to all members within an organization. There is always the case of there being too much or too little.. too much and you exhaust interested/potential members, too little and you discourage the enthusiast.

Indeed! But only when they are necessary.

Bad law is worse than no law at all.

EDIT: Just to be clear, that's not meant to be as aggressive as it might sound! I actually agree with your post in it's entirety! :)

I like those UKGTR number boards on, cough, Sharks car...very cool with the union jack in the logo. 8)

I reckon we should definitely run another sprint series and definitely use the skin pack for it. They look so much better and also agree with everyone else that the racing is that much more tighter now and so deserves another close series.

I would love to see the odd 'new' track thrown into the championship too, maybe added as a special event in the race calendar, like Bahrain in the Porsche Supercup series, as an example, and points scoring for it. There must be a couple of add on tracks that are good enough to use for a multiplayer race. Maybe have a fun race to try one out? as long as we all install the same one (from a link on UKGTR) it should be fine.

Cause I don't really know how to use 3DSMAX and the default scenes were ok for most things so i have not fiddled with them. I don't mind the driver being in there.
I'm planning on doing some NGT group pics and GT group pics when I've finished all the cars I want to do. Now done F360, 996 GT3RS, F360, Morgan, Lister, Lambo, F550. Planning to also do Saleen and Mosler and that should be it.


I'll be VERY suprised if Simbin, Blimey (or whoever they want to be this week) allow addon cars in GTR2, I think the cars will be encrypted again so only skins and non addon cars will be it. Shame. I wish someone would implement skins properly so they can be auto downloaded from the server and stuff.

  :D

I actually did that UKGTR logo with the UK bit with the union jack in it originally for Gizmo to use on the website but another logo was decided upon instead. I have it in decent high res PSD file I believe still.

Auto download is not really a realistic option imo. Fine for Nascar 2003 where skins were only a few K but GTR car's are complex and large.

A two car team without arcade and pro files is about 3mb, it all adds to a mess if you try doing things automatically and on such a large scale imo.

I don't see why Simbin would release templates and not .car files. I know they were leaked from GTL and that situation was a mess but for GTR2 I think it's more settled in terms of the Simbin/Blimey! fiasco. It doesn't make sense releasing templates without .car files!! Why would they want their original GTR cars tampered with? It's an all or nothing situation I bet.

I'm gonner send em an email.

Have they supplied GTL templates then? Are they on the CD like GTR's are?

I don't know exactly what's on the CD's and the GTL templates I don't think were supposed to be released but GTR2 is now made by Simbin i.e Ian Bell and co. I'm sure they will see to it to release templates and car files. They did it for GTR, they released templates and a little later the .car files right? If it's a licensing issue then it would have existed for GTR too and they wouldn't have released them.. who knows!! I'll send out a bunch of emails.

I think there are only licensing issues when new cars are added i.e McLaren F1 ect. So really they could even get in trouble for these cars being added, but more than likely they have agreements to protect them, something like - We do not support third party addons, we only support addons for the vehicles already present in GTR ect ect..

Only reason tbh is cause they can't be arsed, which is unlikely given they will be doing 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10 and 11........ ;D

Alledgedly they released them by accident for GTR. A bit like putting the wrong dedicated server into 1.5. ::)

Yep, thought so; it may say Yokohama on the graphics but inside the .car file it says:

So it's really got Dunlops on and its public-facing name is "911".

WTF!? Are we talking gaming here or wot?!  ??? :( >:(

I like to see driver names on number plates or wotever else. I also like to see Sharks or Penguins on windows. Please keep it this 'free' way. Bloody hell, enough regulations and rules in normal life, let's not start in my virtual one or I'm off!

T

P.S. Proposing something is fine... Saying what u want to see and what should be done is not...

This has turned into quite an interesting conversation. :)

So this is a form of escapism for some? Blah!! This is not escapism for me, nor relaxing. It can be satisfying but rarely.. and takes alot from me both physically and mentally! Not to mention financially, it's not every day you spend a grand on hardware for a mere game!

No, i'm in this for the buzz of real racing - which to me is rules, regulations, hierachy, democracy and of course racing race cars.

(http://www.tyfdesk.com/misc/ifyoucanreadthis.jpg)

T

I know a bunch of pixels pretending to be a car when I see it.  :P

And I know the difference between 'know' and 'now' (and 'no'). :P :D

I'm not keen on putting too many details on cars anyways. In race I don't see them (I'm focusing on who the driver is - skin helps a lot; where is he positoned on track and how to overtake/block him). To see all the details you have to go to the showroom, which is nice to see. But only for a few minutes.

I admire your work, guys, you're great artists and enthusiasts, especialy Rich who GTRMAN-ded it together, but I don't think it should go further than that. Maybe an update of minor overlooked things, no more.

I feel great driving the car in the team livery, but would not want to impose on the guys to work more on the skin. As Tyf said, lets keep it simple and have fun with the game, not be frustrated with an over-regulated monster. Hell, I have that sh!t at work!  ;D  

Steady on old bean, all that was suggested was that car numbers and windscreen banners be in a standard form, which helps both with recognising cars, and looks good on screenshots and videos which promote the league. It's not like anyone suggested banning pictures of penguins, sharks, seals, sea cucumbers or any other marine wildlife.

I do try hard to keep SimRacing.org.uk's rules down to a minimum, and only include things which improve the fun factor of the league's championships. I don't think anything has been suggested on this thread in such a way as to imply that it was anything more than the author's opinion, so please, everyone, let's not get too emotional about it. Tears and keyboards can lead to electrocution! :o :D :P

Yes soz about that Dave, guess it's the way in which people give their opinions that gets me going ;).

I only NO the difference between yes & KNOW though! NOW what I mean? :D ;) ;D

 8)

T

Good one Tyf! LOL! :D

To be honest, I prefer it when Tyf says it in pictures  ;). Although, I didn't have a clue what he said.

LOL! Gins, of course ye don't ;) :D

T

It does make more sense what I was saying for a different season, maybe GTR2 - that's what I was suggesting it for.. no need to change your cars unless you want to for GTR.

I don't know what you get from my writing but you can't get alot from words and text and there is so often misinterpretation. If I say one thing, perhaps err Cabbage.. this word can make you think and feel a thousand different things all at once so what's my point. Well look at what i'm saying rather than how you think i'm saying it!!

You don't know hardly a thing about me which is fine seen as it takes more than a few season to get to know a driver. I will say it's nice to meet you all, and I look forward to racing with you.. now and in the future. ;D

You're right Rich. I find you a serious and fair driver and that's what I joined here in the first place.  :)

sorry about the other night bad race i think it was don1 i think i expect to get nail to the wall for it again sorry

Yeah I know the feeling Dan.

Don't remember anything serious happening between us ;)

You know the 996 Bi Turbo has heck of alot more BHP and Torque than nGT class and only 100kg heavier. I think it needs it's own class i.e G2.. for records and reference - Leuven set race record but surely it can't be classed as nGT.

https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=65

It is also very very difficult to drive. Yes it has more power and it is fastest at Enna, but despite it being allowed for a long time in NGT hardly anyone takes it because the extra power is evened up by the evil handling not making it a decent option for most.

Try driving Brno or Spa with it, heck even Donington is hard, hehe. Took it last season and was fighting for the championship with it, but it wasn't like Dave and others stood no chance, lol. Actually I ended up 4th ;) :D

T

It's shame if proper nGT records are lost cause of it. It's in G2 class, maybe the records can be seperated? Yep, you guessed it i'm a records freak.:)

It's not in G2 class, it's in NGT, because that's where we put it. Over a race distance it's no faster than the 360 or GT3-RS. We don't have a special class for the Morgan just 'cause it's not as fast as the other NGT cars.

One of these days I'll get round to doing per-car stats.

That's quite an undertaking, classes are enough surely!!