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UKGPL Season 17 - Amateurs Trophy - Race 3 - 65 mod - Kyalami

The third round of the Amateurs Trophy finds us at the South African circuit of Kyalami, first built in 1961 and first raced by F1 in 1966 following a major upgrade. A track of 2 halves the long straight should offer some great slipstreaming opportunities which could end in disaster entering the long and slippery T1 at Crowthorne, especially on lap one. There is a large run off area but that is not an invitation to use it.

Ensure you have the pit wall in place.  The standard papy track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it.  The absence of a pit wall will not stop you joining the race but anybody seen miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will be disqualified.

Instructions for restoring the pit wall are;
If you have installed the GFX update that removes the pitwall here is how to get it back for the race .
1. Rename or remove kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.

That will give you back a wall you can crash your car into. If you want the old papy Armco GFX back do this.
2. Rename or remove Armco_s.mip.

As always I would remind you to take care on Lap 1 especially under braking into Crowthorne and don't forget that this time around we have upped the ante and the Amateurs will race at Pro level with no resets allowed.
Chassis allocations are below- the same chassis will be used for all races this season, unless there is an adjustment agreed by the moderator.  Good luck!

Please use the updated 65 mod for this race.

The 65 mod V2 update is being used by UKGPL and the updated layout features are very welcome, with the ability to record best lap times at addon tracks and to have 65 specific tracks. The new collision boxes are also a great improvement.  Though the new slipstream code will need extensive testing, the preliminary race seemed to show that it would be a definite improvement in racing terms, without the controversy over its extent, as with the 66 mod.

Thanks to all involved with producing the update.  If the new slipsteam code works as well as it seems it might, perhaps it could help persuade the authors of the 66 mod to rework their code as well!

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password)

Server ukgpl6
IP address TBC
Race date = 17-03-2009
Time = 21:00
Track = Kyalami
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = 50% Grand Prix (40 laps)


Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=208&theme=6)

CHASSIS ALLOCATION

FERRARI Phil Thornton, Will Tway (reserve), Burtoner*, Asbjeurn*
LOTUS  StormCloud, Dave Randall, Bartosz, Bernie*, Steve Bird*, Geoff65*
BRM  NatanVix, Samb, Ginsters, Steve Bucket*, Ian*
BT11  CliveLoynes, John Roberts, Ken, Jethro, Fulvio
HONDA  EvilClive, Tim, Iestyn (reserve)
COOPER Mike Beattie, Lorenzo, if he joins, otherwise any visiting speed merchant
BT7 Hristo

*drivers also assigned a Novices chassis

65 Mod

These were the 65 drivers
BT7 Bonnier, Baghetti, Hulme (Bonnier drove for Walker)
BT11 Brabham Gurney Gardner Anderson Siffert (Siffert drove for Walker, Gardner and Anderson were privateers)
Lotus Clark Spence Rodriguez Mitter Russo Solana (and Maggs Hailwood Attwood Amon and Ireland for Parnell)
Ferrari Surtees Bandini Rodriguez Vaccarella Bondurant Scarfiotti
Honda Ginther Bucknum
Cooper McLaren Rindt
BRM Hill Stewart

The 1965 season was the last to use the controversial 1500cc formula which had begun after 1960, to the initial advantage of Ferrari.  The 1965 cars are smaller than the 1967 cars and have less torque and hence more grip.  It was claimed that they 'cornered on rails', however this allowed the Grand Prix series to retain the use of circuits which were otherwise to prove extremely dangerous.

The 1965 cars are ideal for those new to GPL as they allow the tracks to be learnt in light reliable cars, however these are also full Formula One cars, and quite fast....  Jim Clark won the 1965 Belgian Grand Prix in a Lotus.  Graham Hill took pole in his BRM P261 with a time of 3'45.4 .  The 1965 distance was 32 laps.

David Wright's 'Legends' site http://fp.gplegends.plus.com/ has the download of the 2.0.1 version (under 'details') as well as being an exceptional guide to both 1965 and 1967, for those interested in Formula One history.  The 2.02 update is available here: http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/1965mod_PATCH_v2.0.2_Setup.zip

UKGPL6 - IP for tonight is 80.5.200.198

Might have to give this one a miss, I got booted from the practice server for excessive packet loss. Unless I can find a suitable wire, or move the router closer to the centre of the house, it won't happen. :(

Go to start this week and I'm stuck in South African wilderness miles from the tarmac. Thats enough GPL "fun" for me. Can you please remove me from "full time" slot please and hope someone has more fun racing than me. Good luck to you all :)

A really crap race to be honest. I was off the pace here in Kyalami, qualifying a lowly 15th. I just couldn't find a good rhythm here and it showed. Made a good start, passed a few people but it appeared Mike and Fulvio had a warp assisted coming together at Sunset which resulted in mayhem for the cars behind. I had to brake sharply, coming to a stand still on the racing line and Phil couldn't avoid me. So I ended upside down but at least I was the only casualty. It can only get better next time round.

That's a new one on me - never heard of starting in the middle of nowhere. Sorry to hear you're not having the best luck Ginsters.

Got home from work just in time and managed to tweak my Spa gears by the end of qually. Got round to the tight left hander out the back and I was concentrating on the BRM heading to the apex when BANG - there's a Lotus facing the wrong way right in front. Don't think I had a chance with that. Seemed to cause quite a big crash.

Ho hum, happens to the best of us. Also happens to me.

Internet cut out for 5 mins after about 10 laps into the race.

Grand race for me.  And actually managed to finish this one.  A first for me in Amateurs in season 17.

Got lucky with getting through what seems to be a warp induced crash on L1, then some other spins and prangs.

Had Mike chasing me for a good while around 3 seconds back, until Fulvio managed to get passed him, then Fulvio closed me down.  I let him take an easy pass into T1 as he was a good half second a lap quicker I think, and see if he could drag us along to anyone else up ahead.  Managed to hang on to his slipstream until he had a coming together with Phil which gifted me 5th.

Last couple of laps were a bit of high pressure with Fulvio once again closing in, closely followed by Mike.  If one had caught me I think they would have both got through, but managed to hold on to the flag.

Fun race for me, thanks guys.  Once again thanks for the server and organising etc.

After I had a little problem with a Honda going towards the hairpin on lap one I gave Clive a bump when I pushed the loud pedal and gave his Brabham a bump . The only thing i can say is rejoining and turning onto the track at the hairpin is tricky .

All i can do is say sorry to Clive for doing it .

john

Average race for me. Quallied quickly with a hi 25, then did a few laps on full fuel to confirm setup was fine.

Got a good launch off the line and held my spot thru Crowthorne on the 1st lap. All was dandy til Fulvio got turned around in Clubhouse. I saw he was high on the line, so I went in low to sneak underneath him....but he was still moving and rolled back into my path. How Fulvio's car survived getting hit by me, Storm, Sam and maybe Phil as well...escapes me. Sam and Storm ended up wheeless and/or upside down. I just stayed tucked against the fence til the excitement stopped. Got going again and chased Fulvio til we caught Dave and then a little later Phil. Dave had a huge lag hit as we were heading round Juksei to Sunset. Was a bit worried when he disappeared, that he might reappear my direct front. Luckily for me, he reappeared behind me it seems after a screen pause.
I then proceeded, from about lap 10 to lap 18, to go to sleep. Couldn't buy a 25 or better and the small group in front ran away. A lonely, boring race until nearly catching Dave to lap on the last lap. Managed an unconvincing 8th, but happy with my drive, and consistency all the same. Grats to the podium, Clive, Clive and Tim for fine performances. On to San Marino!!

ps. Grats to Mike James for a fine win in the Novices.!!

Lots of computer and/or systems failures this round....(wheels, internet etc.) ???

Very pleased with qualifying as I didn't even start on a setup until 20:10  ;D
Looked like I was going to have a comfortable pole for quite some time, then a friend rang me and I had to pull off - Evil promptly took this as his Q to leapfrog me, with Hristo just squeeking infront a few minutes later  :cursing:

The start went OK, got a good launch a started gaining on Clive and pulling past H's non-drag spec BT7 before backing off early approaching T1. It's from here on everything changed away from easy.
I was Swamped by cars from behind - John got up on my right somewhere in or just after Barbeque bend (T2), I held my half of the track all the way up to the sweeping right hander (sunset) where I made a slight excursion onto the grass on the exit. Only lost a tiny bit of time and assumed John would now be ahead - no sign of him - but I spy a BT11 just behind in my mirrors. Thought this was John as I still hadn't seen anything infront/along side so move back towards the racing line to tackle the hairpin (clubhouse) and Bang! hit something  :o My mirrors now show me another BT11 forced off the outside of the corner - realised instantly that this must have been John. My fault totally, thought you were the car behind  :(

The race was very lonely from here apart from when Clive caught and passed me. Congrats Clives and all finishers :thumbup1:

That's a shame Ginsters, as you obviously have a talent for GPL.

If you started in the field then someone has screwed up the servers track.ini for Kyalami and didn't check it out before the race.  I always try to run a race with 19 AI so that I can pause it on the grid and look at the world from each car.

Numptygraph for you.....
(http://www.planet-venom.co.uk/gpl/Numptygraph/Da_Kya.gif)

The Am's and Novices used the same loose starting grid (Paul Jackson one). I'm extra carefull re checking after the Spa issue...
Also, it should have shown two cars behind this time

That is very frustrating Ginsters!! hope you don't give up entirely on GPL as you are certainly competitive and will be missed.

I was somewhat more fortunate  ;D

I knew from a little pre race practice that Clive L had got the Brab BT11 hooked up and was flying. I just knew Hristo would be on pole and favourite for another win for the Wazas and that Tim would be quick enough to be "in the mix"as well. Add about another 5 or 6 drivers all capable of posting quick laps and this race looked a toughie!!

For the first half of practice I used race fuel to get a feel for the heavy Honda and it was not until I realised that I was down in about 10th place that I switched to quali fuel load and tried to squirm up the grid.
Panicked a bit when I realised there was only 10mins left, but the pit crew gave me a shot of saki and sent me out with HER words in my ears.

Did a warm up lap to get the tyres nice and gooey and was fortunate enough to follow  Mr Loynes over the s/f line and down towards T1 which gave me a good start to the lap. Clive pulled over, probably just being mean and denying me the tow :P but the 2nd sector time also came up green so 'fings was looking good for the slant eye team ;D
When sector 3 came up green as well, the dreaded nerves kicked in as I approached the final corner and I was convinced that I had screwed up the entry and had blown it!! The engine was nailed to the rev limiter as we crossed the line and I was amazed to have posted a sub 1:24 lap...but also quite chuffed :o, especially as it took the pole slot.

Hristo started to eat away at my time in 2nd and Tim was also close in 3rd spot. Wazas had stormed to the front 3 places on the grid and were in their rightful place.

I fully expected Hristo to beat my time but although he got very close in his BT7 I still started the race from the front of the grid.

The Wazas were indeed in the right place as the green machines fell over themselves on the first lap in the dust of the mighty Wazas and allowed a respectable gap to open up.
Once Hristo had the BT11 wound up I allowed him to pass so that I could use him to tow me along in 2nd spot and hopefully an even larger gap. Gradually Hristo eased away to a 5sec lead aided by one or two small mistakes on my part.
Then Hristo got bored and did some Rallycross at T2 which allowed me back into 1st place still with a nice cushion back to the chasing group.

1 lap later Hristo was abducted by aliens as he crossed the s/f line. Oh yes he was! I saw it in my mirrors..clear as day..there was a bright light ...one second he was there and then he was gone!!!

This left yours truly in a very very cushy first place.
I monitored the gap back to 2nd place which had been sneakily stolen from the Wazas by a green machine but he was not getting any closer to me so I just held my pace for the next 20 laps or so only troubled briefly by cars that I had to lap at inconvenient spots on the circuit.

With the end in sight I decided to ease up slightly and protect the engine, which is when I think Clive decided to push even harder. as a result the last lap was far closer than it was ever meant to be and I was forced to put in my fastest race lap instead of cruising over the line.
The wasa steamroller is up and running and almost completed another clean sweep but for alien intervention and an impudent round eye in a green machine.

But..."all our victories are belong to her"... ;D ;D ;D

Sorry that I missed the show, fellas.  Wasn't feeling well yesterday...or today...and sim racing was the last thing on my mind.

CU next time!

I'm not sure that it is fair to blame the servers Clive, as I presume that ukgpl5 and ukgpl6 were using the same track.ini for Kyalami.  Mike and Vos aren't as experienced as many ukgpl drivers yet have attempted to learn much in in very short time, its only because of their efforts that we are able to run the mods at all this season- many thanks to both of you.

I suspect that there may have been internet issues last night, so Ginsters impromptu tractor deployment would have to be classed with Hristo's abduction, which wasn't a track.ini problem.  If its any consolation Ginsters, the aliens wouldn't take me either, though I disappeared for 7 seconds only to reappear in exactly the same spot... what happened there?  Even with a disconnection your car would continue on? 

Anyway, I hope that one night's problems wouldn't put anyone off GPL.  If you'd prefer a slower car and int racing, that option remains open.  Why didn't Nicky beat Mike [sob]?

Every mod wins sometime don't they?  ;D



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As I suffered similar grief at Spa, and plenty of other issues during my brief GPL stint, I really don't think any blame can be attached to servers or the sterling work of those behind it. Whenever there's a full grid (its fine in pracci session with 10 or so there) I get the screen flashing or all sorts of graphic anomalies when I join grid for race. As this only happens once every two weeks I can't see how I can test it in the meantime. Life is short and I ain't gonna put in some pracci, qualify and then find out I can't race, hence I'll knock it on the head for now. I may be back though :) 

have you tried the v2 rasterisers ? and if you have try the other one (if dX then try openGL)

john

Going to V2 rasters sorted out a heap of issues for me, one of which was a flashing screen.  Might be worth a shot one last time ;).  Although If you don't race it might mean I get one place higher at the finish  :D.

Great effort Steve, keep 'em coming!

With any luck, once Tim is pilloried for barging John off the track, we might reduce the damage to just two points.  ;D

Apparently I clocked up

180
UKGPL races at Kyalami. 

Anyone else close?

Good Arrows Clive  ;)

Only 46 for me.

I have 46 so far, same as Steve 
Only 1 at Kya so far ;D

What year did UKGPL start ?

I show 146 races but I think some of those results are bogus, as in 2002 , s5 (18 ) & s6 (19 ) 

I dont remember being with UKGPL during those years ,but  I do however remember  Mr Andrew Geldert who's listed as racing in UKGPL in 2002 ? to the best of my knowledge , Andrew never raced UKGPL , he did run a league which was or became (I think)  UKLRS ( some one will be along to correct me here I suppose )

Andrew is mostly responsible for me wasting lightyears of time driving this crazy simm when I could be busy wasting my time doing something important  ::) 

Why on earth would anyone want to do 180 races at Kyalami?? ::)  ???
 ;D It must be a symptom of green machine drivers syndrome. ;D

It was quite obvious to me that Clive was talking about races in total and not just Kyalami.  ::)

I think you Waza's have got your Hachimaki on too tight, unless it was lost in translation from 'HER'.   :P ;D

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音痛ましい  :o

They are just being wasas!

They can't help it but I could have worded it a bit better. ::)

how would that effect there driving ?  全盲  ?

john

Just to let you know there's something about Geoff in the new Issue 3 edition of the Skid Mark, just released and available at http://www.jamesonline.net/gpl/skidmark.htm (http://www.jamesonline.net/gpl/skidmark.htm)
Please don't complain about gratuitous posts to get publicity ;)

180 races at Kyalami... and it's not even flat, Clive! What's wrong with you!?  :D

Oh dear!  Another Wasa.

OK!  OK!

Have it this way........

Apparently, at Kyalami this week, I clocked up

180
UKGPL races .   


Happy now?

Crivens!

Could be modded any time. Might be tonight ........... might not be ............

Best to get your reports in quick though. ;)

*places book in rear of trousers*

You'll need the turbo-charged cane then Mike !!............LOL