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Title: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on August 19, 2021, 10:20:53 PM +0100
Season 39 – 1955 Grand Prix

Please check the Season 39 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1531&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1955 Grand Prix pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1581&theme=6) in particular.

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

The races will be run as follows:

Car set: 1955 F1 only
Date: Every second Sunday from 12th September 2021
Time: No later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-60 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Race Length: 50 minutes
Damage Model:  Pro
Server: UKGPL04_60fps
Race List: IGOR
Divisional Moderator: Phil Thornton

Calendar:
Date    
 Day        
   Time        
Mod    
   Track        
     Folder      
  Laps  
     Download      
12/09/2021    Sunday 21:00 BST 55GP
Balcarce 1967
balcarce
24
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=10601)
26/09/2021    Sunday 21:00 BST 55GP
Monza10k
monza10k
17
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=9323%20%20%20http://www.dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/monza10k/)
10/10/2021    Sunday 21:00 BST 55GP
Aindiab  1958
aindiab
19
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=12008)
24/10/2021    Sunday 21:00 BST 55GP
Assen 67
assen67
14
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1061)
07/11/2021    Sunday 21:00 GMT 55GP
Dundrod 1955
Dund1955
11
Link (http://jrpearson.homestead.com/DundrodDownloads.html)
21/11/2021    Sunday 21:00 GMT 55GP
Parco del Valentino Torino v3  1955
torino
26
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=13022)
05/12/2021    Sunday 21:00 GMT 55GP
Brno49  1949
brno49
7
Link (http://srmz.net/sub/brno49/)
19/12/2021    Sunday 21:00 GMT 55GP
Silverstone
silver
26
Papyrus Original

Handicapping
We will use the tokens system again this season. The tokens system is actually a chassis levelling system, not a form of handicapping. So to introduce a form of handicapping into the 1955 Grand Prix series, drivers who are classed as "Privateers" will be given additional tokens.  This will take the form of 10 additional tokens at the start of the season.  However a "Privateer" driver who fails to start any of the first 5 races will only be eligible for an additional allocation of 5 tokens (rather than 10).  "Privateer" status will be declared by the divisional moderator at the start of the season.

Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents do carry an extra 1 place penalty.

The races will be run under Pro rules so no shift-Rs are allowed.

Only reported incidents will be moderated.

If you would like to enter this series please submit an entry in the poll.


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: PaulV on August 20, 2021, 01:01:26 AM +0100

Great. book me in please.

Paul Villiers


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: EvilClive on August 20, 2021, 08:53:48 AM +0100
Looking forward to wrestling with these beasts again.


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on August 20, 2021, 09:44:01 AM +0100
I should be able to participate !!  ;)


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Giovanni Centorame on August 20, 2021, 12:19:29 PM +0100
Here we go again 8)


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Doni Yourth on August 20, 2021, 03:54:52 PM +0100
I'm in for 75%+, Phil.  TYVM for setting this up.


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Claudio Navonne on August 20, 2021, 06:26:53 PM +0100
Thanks for organising this, I will be back from my holiday in Madrid on the 10th of September (if the flights are confirmed, fingers crossed) and will be able to participate in most of these races.


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Enrique Farina on August 25, 2021, 02:25:59 AM +0100
100% sure, i'm in in this category ;D


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on September 02, 2021, 08:03:52 PM +0100
100% sure, i'm in in this category ;D

That's good news Enrique.  I was having trouble working up any enthusiasm for this until I remembered that you had signed for the Works Section of SBRC.

Let's see if we can take the team prize and have you as the Champion!

These cars are a challenge in their own right so I don't quite understand why we need a constant stream of new tracks to learn as well!  On that point can we have some official clarity on corner entry and exit for Casablanca?  Is it two wheels on the tarmac, two wheels on the hard shoulder or just use all the desert?   ;D


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Pete Bennett on September 04, 2021, 07:05:07 PM +0100
I've just voted as I'm now free on Sunday evenings. I hope I'm not too late to join the party. I've been desperate to drive the 55s all year.


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 04, 2021, 07:38:22 PM +0100
You are in Pete. That makes 19 full time drivers so anyone else registering now will have to be a reserve (unless we have a large number of late entries in which case we'd go for 2 servers).


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on September 07, 2021, 09:07:20 AM +0100
.......................... can we have some official clarity on corner entry and exit for Casablanca?  Is it two wheels on the tarmac, two wheels on the hard shoulder or just use all the desert?   ;D


This was a serious question.  I try to provide SBRC members with a setup and replay but this one is new to me and I don't know how much leeway is granted when it comes to using the hard shoulder.


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: EvilClive on September 07, 2021, 09:40:59 AM +0100
TBH I have not even downloaded the Casablanca track and have absolutely no idea of what you speak, but I will take a look later today if my trip to the dentist is not too traumatic. I am not the moderator for this series but your question has piqued my interest.
Although given that we are discussing the 55 cars, any suggestion that drivers can repeatedly pick an accurate line through any corner ................??

An explanation of the raft of new tracks could be one of two things.

1) the new Antifreeze patch has liberated dozens of circuits that were previously unreliable and caused multiple discos, so there is whole new world to be explored
2) Someone knows that Clive Loynes is reluctant to learn new tracks and including them will get under his skin  :whistling:


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 07, 2021, 08:36:17 PM +0100
.......................... can we have some official clarity on corner entry and exit for Casablanca?  Is it two wheels on the tarmac, two wheels on the hard shoulder or just use all the desert?   ;D


This was a serious question.  I try to provide SBRC members with a setup and replay but this one is new to me and I don't know how much leeway is granted when it comes to using the hard shoulder.
It is a good question which deserves a clear answer. I've been caught out with a similar situation at Mexico and I don't want the same thing to happen again so thanks for raising the query.

The definition of corner cutting is when a driver has all 4 wheels outside the track boundary (i.e. off the track surface, see here (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/railriding)).
A driver is considered to be re-joining if he has had 3 or 4 wheels outside the track boundary (i.e. off the track surface, see here (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/bad_rejoin)).

So drivers should keep 2 wheels inside the track boundary at all times. But the track boundary is a bit vague on some tracks and as you have quite rightly pointed out Ain-Diab is an extreme example.

For the purposes of moderating, the track boundary will be the outer edge of the gravel "shoulder". So the desert is outside the track boundary, the gravel is inside the track boundary.

Personally I think the fastest line will be to keep 2 wheels on the tarmac.


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: EvilClive on September 07, 2021, 10:35:25 PM +0100
Just d/loaded this track and now I understand Clive's question.

Phil's ruling makes absolute sense, but on first impressions, I think putting wheels onto the gravel shoulder will unbalance( grab) the car so much as to be counter productive. Also noted that it is quite a narrow strip of tarmac  :scared: so not much room for error?


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 07, 2021, 11:02:27 PM +0100
Also noted that it is quite a narrow strip of tarmac  :scared: so not much room for error?
I'm sure the track creators checked the dimensions but it does look a bit narrow compared to the real thing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Y8YX0vffE).


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: bernie on September 11, 2021, 09:29:57 PM +0100
Just signed on the dotted line  ;D


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on September 12, 2021, 09:55:15 AM +0100
Just signed on the dotted line  ;D

Good news Bernie, I was beginning to worry about you.


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Rainier on September 12, 2021, 12:56:03 PM +0100
Just signed on the dotted line  ;D

Good news Bernie, I was beginning to worry about you.

Good news !

but now with 25 (20+5 reserves) drivers we will need two servers !!!???


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on September 12, 2021, 08:45:48 PM +0100
Yes you are right David.  I'll set up 2 servers.


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Dulima on November 21, 2021, 04:11:58 PM +0000
Hello administrators.

I signed up, to test a new graphics card, to see if my problems with mod 55 were resolved, I want to know, if I can race today and how many coins I am, so

I can choose today's car, thanks



Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on November 21, 2021, 04:31:19 PM +0000
Hi Dulima

You have 10 tokens BEFORE the race start so with 10 tokens for starting the race you will have 20 total. So you have enough tokens to drive any car. Good luck in the race, I hope your graphics problems are solved  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on November 21, 2021, 04:42:47 PM +0000
Hi Dulima

You have 10 tokens BEFORE the race start so with 10 tokens for starting the race you will have 20 total. So you have enough tokens to drive any car. Good luck in the race, I hope your graphics problems are solved  :thumbup2:

I would have thought that that should be 5 tokens plus 10 as we are well past the first four races?


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on November 21, 2021, 07:20:04 PM +0000
Hi Dulima

You have 10 tokens BEFORE the race start so with 10 tokens for starting the race you will have 20 total. So you have enough tokens to drive any car. Good luck in the race, I hope your graphics problems are solved  :thumbup2:

I would have thought that that should be 5 tokens plus 10 as we are well past the first four races?

Clive, you've spotted an error in my championship description  :oops:. The Privateers started with 20 tokens (see the table in the first race (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=26851#event16151)) so at halfway they get 10. So Dulima does have 20. My explanation of the championship page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1581&theme=6) is wrong, I'll amend it. I did a cut and paste from the Works example, it should say "However a "Privateer" driver who fails to start any of the first 4 races will only be eligible for an additional allocation of 10 tokens (rather than 20)."  Thanks for spotting the mistake.


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Dulima on November 21, 2021, 08:41:32 PM +0000
Thanks Phil and Clive for your attention.

I hope my problem is solved

I love running with 55


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: bernie on November 22, 2021, 04:37:55 PM +0000
I just D/L the Bruno track from the link above , all went well until I went to try it out from GEM .

The track shows in GEM but when selected It goes to my desktop with no mouse pointer and just sits there .

I then have to use Task Manager to close GPL and get back to GEM !

This happens no matter which mod or track I choose , I get the same result .

No GPL  ???

 :'( :'( :'(

Update

Sorted  :) :) :)


Title: Re: Season 39 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 03, 2021, 10:45:58 AM +0000
I just D/L the Bruno track from the link above , all went well until I went to try it out from GEM .

The track shows in GEM but when selected It goes to my desktop with no mouse pointer and just sits there .

I then have to use Task Manager to close GPL and get back to GEM !

This happens no matter which mod or track I choose , I get the same result .

No GPL  ???

 :'( :'( :'(

Update

Sorted  :) :) :)


Jolly good!   :thumbup1: