Title: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Jack O'Ferrall on January 17, 2009, 05:48:04 PM +0000 UKGPL Season 16 - Inter-league race - Monza
This is the ninth race in our Inter-League season, and will use the 67 cars. Our guests will be the Italian league GPFun, who use specially designed team liveries for their races, a system we're going to test in this race! Our brand new racing green liveries are being made for us at GPFun.net here: http://www.gpfun.net/public/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1550&whichpage=4 (http://www.gpfun.net/public/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1550&whichpage=4) This race is currently scheduled for 2030GMT. Each club is to field nine cars, and there are no chassis handicaps, drivers will be racing to complete the distance and score points for their team- be aware that you can only afford to be lapped three times! Lets have a great reception for the GPFun drivers- and for their car artists! Though GPFun have kindly agreed to run this race at Pro level, for consistency with our other races, they've asked us to consider their rules for the return fixture. GPFun race at int level, with resets allowed for collisions with other cars only. All resets are followed by a stop-and-go. Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom passworded 'Savage' by 7:55 p.m, (You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so) Vroc and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password) Server GPFun.net IP address gpfun67.dyndns.org Race date = 25-1-2008 Time = 20:30 GMT Track = Monza (GP 1955-71) Variant = 67F1 Damage Model = PRO Qually time = 30 minutes. Race length = 34 laps (complete 31 laps to score points as a finisher) Chassis assignments: I've left this for the team captain to complete. Note that this race will be run with a faster carset than previous races, one of the extra cars will be a Ferrari the other a Lotus. Lotus Clive L Lotus Lorenzo Eagle Clive Ferrari Hristo Ferrari Will Brabham John Honda Glyn Cooper Tim BRM Phil If you'd like to represent UKGPL in this race please post on the thread and advise what chassis you'd prefer. These have been the points scored by the team so far: Phil 71 John 66 Hristo 65 Storm 49 Lorenzo 48 Clive 42 Glyn 34 Will 26 Natan 19 Iestyn 17 Ken 16 Clive L 12 Mike W 11 Napo 11 Jack 11 Art 9 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 18, 2009, 02:08:12 AM +0000 Ouch, Monza. Chassis assignment's going to be difficult I assume. We should be looking for a solid result, not a win IMO, so put me in a slower chassis, please.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Jack O'Ferrall on January 18, 2009, 12:04:22 PM +0000 GPFun have asked that we allocate the faster chassis to the faster drivers, on an informal basis, and the extra chassis will probably be another Lotus or Eagle.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Turkey Machine on January 18, 2009, 01:03:53 PM +0000 I like Monza in the Eagle, if that's any help. :) I think my PB's a 1:27.6something.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 18, 2009, 08:29:02 PM +0000 GPFun have asked that we allocate the faster chassis to the faster drivers, on an informal basis, and the extra chassis will probably be another Lotus or Eagle. The thing is even if I'm in a fast chassis I won't be very competitive, Monza's not my track at all. So instead of finishing 2nd (for example) in a Lotus or Eagle I could do the same in a Ferrari or Brabham while someone else finishes higher that Lotus or Eagle. If you see what I mean. From the Mexico race it's evident we need to place as many drivers at the front as possible and not necessarily win. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: EvilClive on January 19, 2009, 01:28:21 PM +0000 ahem!! not only at the front...but also at the chequered flag ????
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 19, 2009, 03:35:39 PM +0000 So who do I speak to to reserve my seat in the Marshall post at Parabolica?
If I'm wanted I dare say I can make it, Don't think chassis choice would bother me much here.... Hopefully I'll be left to my own means of gaining an early retirement this time :-\ Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Turkey Machine on January 19, 2009, 04:54:05 PM +0000 I assume that the "GP 1955-71" is the default Papy track, yesno?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Maury on January 20, 2009, 01:11:01 PM +0000 Hello guys!
I'm one of the moderator of the GPFun Forum. Your idea to race against international teams is a very nice one! I would like to wish you good luck for the race and ... pay attention, we are watching you!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 20, 2009, 06:04:16 PM +0000 Hello guys! I'm one of the moderator of the GPFun Forum. Your idea to race against international teams is a very nice one! I would like to wish you good luck for the race and ... pay attention, we are watching you!! ;D ;D ;D ;D I told you, Dave... ::) Hi to you too, Maury! ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: EvilClive on January 20, 2009, 06:31:39 PM +0000 From now on all posts must be in code ;) as our extensive and ever alert security officers have detected a possible mole!!
Although we have found no direct evidence that GPfun have breached our outer defenses, there are some unexplained piles of earth on the outside of many corners in GPL, especially at Albi. Therefore, Arnold and Mabel Glutbucket will be making routine body searches of anyone found around here after dark...YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! ::) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 20, 2009, 06:35:11 PM +0000 One of the moles has started a rumour that I want the Lotus for this one so I can try to consolidate my position as UKGPL top points scorer (definitely a case of the Tortoise and the Hare LOL).
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 20, 2009, 07:05:54 PM +0000 Hello Everybody and thanks for the invitation to race against you !
I hope that we will have plenty of fun and as balanced a grid as possible to maximize on-track duels. To this aim, I can tell you that our fast drivers will drive fast cars (their request, we usually have the opposite in gpfun). However, it is also true that some of our fastest drivers will not be able to race this sunday. The extra cars will be Ferrari (your choice) and Lotus (our choice). From tomorrow I will cycle our server (GPFun) with the race settings, so you can try it. We shall also have a download ready with the personalized liveries, more about this later. You can read the result from our recent GP at Monza at the end of the message. Drivers who should race next sunday are in bold. We have our own race thread at: http://www.gpfun.net/public/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1556 Bye, Luca RACE RESULTS (After 60 laps) Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time Diff Problem 1 20 Lorenzo Melli Brabham ITA 60 89m58.312s 2 69 Paolo Minotto BRM ITA 60 90m24.528s 26.216s 3 44 Luca Varani Ferrari ITA 60 90m46.313s 48.001s 4 42 Filippo Braconi Brabham ITA 60 90m46.882s 48.570s 5 23 Luca Panella Brabham ITA 60 91m15.127s 1m16.815s 6 29 Cosimo Monti Brabham ITA 60 91m15.978s 1m17.666s 7 55 Fulvio Policardi Ferrari ITA 60 91m24.126s 1m25.814s 8 77 Graziano Vimercati Ferrari ITA 59 90m05.397s 1 lap(s) 9 19 Enrico Melli Cooper ITA 59 90m40.925s 1 lap(s) 10 97 Sergio Lonzar Brabham ITA 59 90m44.351s 1 lap(s) 11 98 Davide Graci Brabham ITA 59 90m52.561s 1 lap(s) 12 70 Davide Porcu Eagle ITA 59 91m04.998s 1 lap(s) 13 45 davide grappolo Brabham ITA 58 90m30.025s 2 lap(s) 14 50 Gianluca Errera Brabham ITA 41 63m05.272s 19 lap(s) 15 41 Michelangelo Giovannini Cooper ITA 21 33m15.800s 39 lap(s) 16 73 Francesco Uscidda BRM ITA 17 26m58.690s 43 lap(s) 17 33 Stefano Bucci Ferrari ITA 16 25m35.092s 44 lap(s) 18 40 Mauro Mariani Lotus ITA 14 23m40.178s 46 lap(s) 19 58 Fabio Locarno Lotus ITA 9 14m51.199s 51 lap(s) 20 4 GPFUN.NET Brabham ITA 0 DidNotStart 60 lap(s) Race results are unofficial (Replay might have been saved before end of race) RACE FASTEST LAPS Pos Driver Time Lap 1 Lorenzo Melli 1m28.632s 59 2 Paolo Minotto 1m28.696s 59 3 Filippo Braconi 1m28.985s 55 4 Cosimo Monti 1m29.111s 58 5 Graziano Vimercati 1m29.187s 50 6 Luca Varani 1m29.509s 56 7 Luca Panella 1m29.517s 60 8 Fulvio Policardi 1m29.717s 58 9 Sergio Lonzar 1m29.819s 41 10 Enrico Melli 1m29.921s 47 11 Davide Graci 1m29.957s 46 12 Davide Porcu 1m30.026s 59 13 Gianluca Errera 1m30.194s 41 14 Stefano Bucci 1m30.379s 12 15 davide grappolo 1m31.033s 54 16 Fabio Locarno 1m31.077s 9 17 Michelangelo Giovannini 1m31.263s 16 18 Francesco Uscidda 1m31.991s 10 19 Mauro Mariani 1m31.992s 7 RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY (first lap excluded) Driver Avg Deviation Std Deviation Avg Laptime Laps Lorenzo Melli 0.398 0.514 1m29.538s 60 Luca Varani 0.443 0.605 1m30.326s 60 Fulvio Policardi 0.513 0.634 1m30.925s 60 Luca Panella 0.532 0.703 1m30.805s 60 Paolo Minotto 0.556 0.737 1m29.973s 60 Filippo Braconi 0.566 1.159 1m30.367s 60 Gianluca Errera 0.872 1.413 1m31.541s 41 Francesco Uscidda 1.292 1.605 1m33.186s 17 Davide Porcu 1.339 2.513 1m32.033s 59 Graziano Vimercati 1.340 4.322 1m31.052s 59 Enrico Melli 1.493 3.279 1m31.692s 59 Cosimo Monti 1.528 4.807 1m30.843s 60 Sergio Lonzar 1.697 4.104 1m31.790s 59 Davide Graci 1.777 3.960 1m31.951s 59 davide grappolo 2.099 3.992 1m33.060s 58 Michelangelo Giovannini 2.798 4.218 1m33.624s 21 Stefano Bucci 4.529 5.397 1m34.281s 16 Fabio Locarno 5.805 7.793 1m36.090s 9 Mauro Mariani 7.326 7.765 1m39.216s 14 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Jack O'Ferrall on January 20, 2009, 08:29:54 PM +0000 Thanks Luca- I've modified the start time above to 2030GMT and the carset to include an extra Lotus (though Phil can't have it as they're only for fast drivers...). It's good that you have such a strong league, I wish we had a full 67s grid!
I'd like to make our chassis allocations as soon as we have nine drivers, but we need more volunteers at this stage, even if I ask Clive to volunteer nine times with his selection of different beards and accents! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 20, 2009, 08:39:24 PM +0000 though Phil can't have it as they're only for fast drivers... :cursing:Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 21, 2009, 03:22:03 AM +0000 From now on all posts must be in code ;) as our extensive and ever alert security officers have detected a possible mole!! Although we have found no direct evidence that GPfun have breached our outer defenses, there are some unexplained piles of earth on the outside of many corners in GPL, especially at Albi. Therefore, Arnold and Mabel Glutbucket will be making routine body searches of anyone found around here after dark...YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! ::) *runs and hides* Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Will Tway on January 21, 2009, 04:02:42 AM +0000 I'd love to race this one but if there are new guys that are interested...I'll race in clubmans.
Thanks, Will Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 21, 2009, 11:29:34 AM +0000 I'd like to make our chassis allocations as soon as we have nine drivers, but we need more volunteers at this stage, If you are short of drivers we can probably lend you some of ours, if you want. It would be less of an inter-league battle... but might be more fun :) Let me know if I have to ask our drivers about this. Bye, Luca Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Turkey Machine on January 21, 2009, 02:24:48 PM +0000 We should be OK for drivers, but it's the lack of people putting their names forward that's a hindrance at this stage!! :-\
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Lorenzo Galluzzi on January 21, 2009, 04:06:39 PM +0000 Hi all!
If you want i'll be able to drive for this one... Cheers Lorenzo Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 21, 2009, 04:31:17 PM +0000 The server
GPFUN.NET is active with the race settings; the only difference is that it is set to "pro short" right now, eg a shorter distance than next sunday. Please test it before sunday to make sure that everything works for you (it requires the bandwidth patch). It is set on a fast connection; please let us know if anyone plans to race with a 56kbs modem, in which case we will lower the server requirements. Bye, Luca PS: please note that there is also a gpfun67 server, cycling through different tracks. We will disable it next sunday to avoid confusion. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 21, 2009, 04:43:00 PM +0000 How many have we actually got Jack?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 21, 2009, 11:52:59 PM +0000 Since I can't have a Lotus, a Honda would be nice.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Geoff65 on January 22, 2009, 07:58:06 AM +0000 I can play if you need more bodies, stick me in anything but a Honda....could even manage the Bellowing Brute...(BRM). I've had my fill of Zandy for now. Raced against a few of these guys already...Fabio Locarno, Fulvio Policardi and a few other names that are familiar.....should be fun.
Geoff. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Glyn on January 22, 2009, 09:43:12 AM +0000 If you're still in the need of drivers I'll put my name forward for this Sunday.
Too much iRacing is my problem I've sorta fallen off the GPL topics :o Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: EvilClive on January 22, 2009, 10:07:15 AM +0000 As the rules are that fast guys take fast cars on this one, instead of the usual slightly reverse of that, do we have any idea what the allocations will be?
At least a probable choice of 2 or 3 would help just to get meaningful some practice in as I would normally opt for the Honda here but Phil has his name being stencilled on that beast already lol. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 22, 2009, 12:12:59 PM +0000 As the rules are that fast guys take fast cars on this one, That's what we are doing (roughly) so if you follow the same general idea we should get a balanced race. For your information, this should be our drivers lineup. You can cross most names with the results in my previous post to have an idea of the performance. I am indicating a likely qualifying time for a few drivers Graci BRM Errera Lot Minotto Lot below 27.0 Lonzar Coo 30.0 Grappolo Eag Policardi Hon Melli Fer 27.3 Marchetti Bra Uscidda Fer Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: fpolicardi on January 22, 2009, 01:02:18 PM +0000 Since I can't have a Lotus, a Honda would be nice. Phil I have broken the 30'' wall last night in the White Whale :) Ciao Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Jack O'Ferrall on January 22, 2009, 07:15:32 PM +0000 Okay- Lotus Clive L and Lorenzo, Eagle Clive, Ferrari Hristo and Will, Brabham John, Honda Glyn, BRM Phil, Cooper Tim. Sorry Phil, but we haven't got another driver more likely to finish with the BRM- it's not hopeless at Monza though. Jethro's going to act as reserve, and also menace the Clubmans race at Zandvoort, for more race practice..
I was on GPFun.net with Jethro last night, it was very stable, unlike my driving since I was able to wedge a BRM behind the armco at the Lesmos, to much mirth. However if anyone has problems with lag Luca has offered to alter the server settings. There were a few GPFun drivers on and I'd recommend that we get a few practice starts with their drivers in before the race. GPFun are used to rolling starts with no passing for the first corners. Perhaps we might have a closed session if enough drivers turn up? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: EvilClive on January 23, 2009, 08:11:14 AM +0000 Are we expected to do a rolling start??? standing still before the start is stressful enough !!! lol
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Maury on January 23, 2009, 09:56:48 AM +0000 This evening we should be able to provide you the car livery package to use for the race.
Stay tuned! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 23, 2009, 01:40:34 PM +0000 Thanks a lot to Davide Graci and Stex68 for designing the liveries and preparing the upload!!
Instructions follow, with details at the end of the message. I am trying to pay attention to this forum but if you have any question please email me as well. Car liveries - backup your "cars67" directory in the gpl/cars/ folder. Just name it cars67_backup , for instance - download the gpfun/ukgpl carset at http://www.gpfun.net/public/downloads/Files/Carset/carset_ukgpl.rar - on race day we will enter the server in a particular order; do not join unless instructed to do so ! Everybody from ukgpl will join the server, then everybody from gpfun will get in. At this stage we will start the practice session. - All the GPFun drivers will have #67, all the ukgpl ones #90 After the race you can simply restore your backed up "cars67" folder, if you want. Similarly, should you experience any problem simply restore your old "cars" folder. ======== What's in the download? The standard gplea cars (not hi-res) plus the GPFun and UKGPL liveries What if I don't want to install them? No problem. You will just see the standard gpl liveries (red Ferrari, white honda etc) with no numbers Will I see the liveries any time I use gpl? No. GPL online uses numbers from 1 to 22 to allocate liveries; we use numbers above those so that our skins are displayed only on aptly set servers. Is there any risk, crashes etc? Not really, we have been using personalized skins since 2003 and never had problems. There is one important exception, however: the skins are designed for specific versions of the cars. If you use a Ferrari36V, for instance, with a livery made for the Ferrari48v , then your computer may crash. That's why we prepared a download with all the cars, not just the additional liveries. How does gpl know which livery to assign me? Online liveries are called by specific 3do. If a Brabham driver is assigned #44, then he will use the brab44.3do We can edit the 3do so that it calls the #44 mips, where we stored the desired livery. Drivers are assigned numbers in accordance to the driver.ini and their order of entrance in the server. The first driver to enter the server will have the number of driver 19 in the driver.ini , the 2nd to enter will be driver18 and so forth. By having drivers entering the server in a specific order we can ensure that they get assigned the numbers, hence the liveries, that we want. Can I drive my personalized livery offline? GPL uses number 4 for the offline driver. There is a utility that you can use to change this number to anything you wish. Then it is simply a matter of storing the desired livery in the appropriate 3do file. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: fpolicardi on January 23, 2009, 03:20:37 PM +0000 Just a precise statement for those having other mods installed in Cars folder besides cars67. In the rar files there is a Cars67 folder so you can backup only your Cars67 folder and not all the Cars folder to not disable all other mods in the meantime. Can't they Luca?
Ciao Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 23, 2009, 03:35:44 PM +0000 Oppss, I didn't think that people here have other mods installed.
Could somebody with expertise on the mods add something to the instructions? I have no mods myself so I don't want to comment on it. Sorry, Luca Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Maury on January 23, 2009, 04:08:05 PM +0000 Fulvio Policardi has depicted the right situation.
UKGPL drivers will need only to backup and replace the CARS67 folder and not the other ones. Many thanks again to Davide Graci, Stex68 and.....me (!!) for the livery carset! :D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Jack O'Ferrall on January 24, 2009, 01:15:00 AM +0000 Thanks for the work you've put into these liveries, it's much appreciated. I've tested them by backing up the cars67 folder to cars67_old and replacing it, and there were no crashes with my install.
I'm not sure about the confusion though- since there is only a cars67 folder in the rar file, there's no conflict with other mods? Is there anyone who needs or would prefer a .zip rather than the .rar? If you would have to install a .rar extractor, be warned that some of them disable the Windows XP zip, and it remains disabled if you then remove the program. Clive will be relieved that this race will be a normal start. Though every time I mention the grid I have to urge even more caution, under the terms of our racing agreement, you don't have to make a rolling start, or a 'Stenning' start. Can the UKGPL team drivers post to confirm they've got the files, then I'll know who I might have to contact? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 24, 2009, 02:20:46 AM +0000 I got them, thanks.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: EvilClive on January 24, 2009, 09:32:14 AM +0000 Can you send me ( or point me towards) a zip file for these Dave?
The history of my computer skills is such, that if I start experimenting with these new fangled .rar files I may not show up Sunday evening !! ::) so it would be safer, I think, to stick with what I know if possible. :-\ Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 24, 2009, 12:17:37 PM +0000 I have the files but havn't tested them yet :)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Turkey Machine on January 24, 2009, 01:40:45 PM +0000 RAR files can be opened safely by 7-Zip. :)
Can I assume it's safe for me to practice for the Clubmans and just have the BRM on the sidelines? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: miner2049er on January 24, 2009, 02:49:07 PM +0000 At the behest of he who must be obeyed I am hosting these files in zip format here.
http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/ Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Jack O'Ferrall on January 24, 2009, 03:12:04 PM +0000 Thanks Mike- fmafhing. Have one of Loot's cigars. What mean 'must be obeyed'? Tom Cruise's analyst bothering you again, I wasn't aware he still had a house up there?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Stex68 on January 24, 2009, 03:45:58 PM +0000 Hi everybody,
if you want to see your new skins you have to link there https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5692.msg99152#msg99152 Bye Stex68 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: EvilClive on January 24, 2009, 05:04:55 PM +0000 At the behest of he who must be obeyed I am hosting these files in zip format here. http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/ Thanks for that ;D going to try out my new skin now. :o Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 24, 2009, 06:43:25 PM +0000 Hi everybody, if you want to see your new skins you have to link there https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5692.msg99152#msg99152 Bye Stex68 Green Ferrari! :o Awesome! :D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: EvilClive on January 24, 2009, 09:35:54 PM +0000 oooooohhh! I do look smart :euro:
Thanks to the guys from GPFun :jumpjoy: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :punk: :punk: :punk: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Ken Murray on January 25, 2009, 12:26:45 AM +0000 Is there any risk, crashes etc? Not really, we have been using personalized skins since 2003 and never had problems. There is one important exception, however: the skins are designed for specific versions of the cars. If you use a Ferrari36V, for instance, with a livery made for the Ferrari48v , then your computer may crash. That's why we prepared a download with all the cars, not just the additional liveries. Can someone tell me exactly which GPLEA cars are used. I run modified car 3do's to show a virtual mirror because of the more realistic FOV settings I use which mean I can't see the wing mirrors. So I must continue to use these or make new ones. I use the following: BRM P83 v3.0 Eagle v4.0 Ferrari Parkes v3.1 Lotus49 v3.1 Brabham BT24 v2.1 Cooper T81 v2.1 Honda RA300 v3.0 Are these compatible or have I got some work to do?? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Will Tway on January 25, 2009, 12:34:58 AM +0000 All set. Thanks Lucav.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Jack O'Ferrall on January 25, 2009, 01:00:10 AM +0000 I can't tell which car versions they are from the download as there's no text files just the GPLEA logo. It might be easier to renumber your existing .3dos and test the mips just for the car you want to race, lot67 and lot90 if Clive can't make it and you're online. The 3dos worked for my existing GPLEA Lotus. The liveries will only work on special servers anyway, so you won't need more than one car.
Jethro, yeah, just practice for Clubmans and have the BRM. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 25, 2009, 10:53:43 AM +0000 Can someone tell me exactly which GPLEA cars are used. If you look here: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5692.msg99152#msg99152 you'll find the gplea version on the bottom left of each image. Please do check that everything works with your modifications before using the skins online. At worst you can simply race without skins, you won't affect anyone else. See you tonight, Luca Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 25, 2009, 06:09:09 PM +0000 I'm in the process of D/Ling and installing Vroc, wish me luck folks ;D
Hoping to check it all works even if only breifly :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Ken Murray on January 25, 2009, 06:25:20 PM +0000 Can someone tell me exactly which GPLEA cars are used. If you look here: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5692.msg99152#msg99152 you'll find the gplea version on the bottom left of each image. Please do check that everything works with your modifications before using the skins online. At worst you can simply race without skins, you won't affect anyone else. See you tonight, Luca Thanks Still not 100% on my participation. I've just remembered I'm away on an overnight stay tomorrow so I've got a few things I need to get out of the way before I leave in the morning. If I get all my jobs done I should be OK. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Turkey Machine on January 25, 2009, 06:32:49 PM +0000 If I do end up racing, it will be with the default livery. I personally don't see the point in me changing the cars for 1 race I'm unlikely to be driving in.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Ken Murray on January 25, 2009, 07:34:49 PM +0000 If I do end up racing, it will be with the default livery. I personally don't see the point in me changing the cars for 1 race I'm unlikely to be driving in. Not trying to force anybody to do anything but it's only a few mouse clicks and some typing to change the names on two folders. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Glyn on January 25, 2009, 09:57:32 PM +0000 Aww man I'm gutted. Was running in 6th with 18 laps left when the Honda's engine decided to call it a day :cries: :(
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: EvilClive on January 25, 2009, 10:07:31 PM +0000 I was unable to join the server from GPL, so was forced to join via Vroc with disastrous results!! sorry guys .
Trying to steer with what feels like a knotted rope sliding over a knobbly tyre is a nightmare, I am going to have to find what this problem is!! Qually was pathetic managed only 11th on grid with an Eagle at monza :-\. pah!! Start was good ( the only good thing ) jumped two places ..both from Gpfun and tried to settle down to a steady pace. After a couple of laps the steering caught me exiting 2nd Lesmo and I ended up parked facing the wrong way :-[ . lost a few places and set off again. Regained a place or two and was slowly closing on the car in front when it went all wobbly again braking for Curve Grande...ended up on grass going straight into end of armco...THE END!! PS if this pattern continies I will withdraw myself from any more challenge races until I have a setup here that at least allows me to drive up to my meagre ability. feeling very pi**ed off and very evil :cursing: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 25, 2009, 10:28:11 PM +0000 eClive, I'm not sure GPL accepts IPs in the form of gpfun.com or whatever, you should use exact ip numbers next time, it has always worked for me.
I don't know for you, but the server was bad for me. Warping all the time with all 3 connection columns going up and down. Qualifying wasn't bad and we occupied 3 of the first 4 places. I briefly lost a place on the start but got it back and then tried to follow Ken while Paolo and Lorenzo pulled away. After some laps Paolo had an off at Parabolica, so now we were 1-2-3. Ken was unfortunate to have his engine blow up on the s/f straight, then after a few laps Lorenzo clipped the outside on the exit of Parabolica and I had to brake and swerve to avoid him, though he just removed his wreck from the track, but that lost me enough speed to allow fast recovering Paolo to get close in the next lap. It took him another lap to get into my slipstream towards Parabolica and I opted for the outside and we exited it close to each other with him infront. I tucked behind to get his slipstream and went for the inside into CG side by side. I managed to hold my line and he held his, but there wasn't enough room with the bad connection there was so warp contact sent us both into retirement. Pity. Grats to the opposition for winning it, but I hope we use a different server next time. -=Hristo=- Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 25, 2009, 11:01:18 PM +0000 My connection was fine here :)
And very pleased that I finally finished one of these friendlies! ;D I think I might need practice in the 67's though :whistling: Clive: I may be talking nonsense as I've only installed VRoc about 4 hours ago (:-[) but have you somehow either Enabled/disabled the speed sensative steering, or maybe somehow altered the steering linearity in GPL? Stupid suggestions I know - But I don't know how much backing up if any VRoc does when launching :-\ Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 25, 2009, 11:23:33 PM +0000 Got a very bad start and was last away (collecting some wreckage on the run down to the Curva Grande didn't help). Server wasn't too good in praccy, a few cars were jumping about but my level meters seemed quite low so it must have been their connection not mine. My Pribluda displays were corrupted so I couldn't use them. Disconnecting and rejoining usually sorts that out but I didn't dare disconnect in case I got the wrong livery. Anyway I was catching a couple of guys when on about the 6th lap I went slightly wide at Lesmo 1 and lost a wheel on the armco, race over :(.
Pity we had a few bad connections. A lot of work went into preparing the liveries and organizing the race. A big thank you to Dave (Jack, Amagi) and Luca (and the rest of GPFun) for organizing the race. The teams looked well matched, hopefully we can have a rematch next season. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 25, 2009, 11:48:41 PM +0000 eClive, I'm not sure GPL accepts IPs in the form of gpfun.com or whatever, you should use exact ip numbers next time, it has always worked for me. The address provided works fine; my bet is that his core.ini was not properly setup. VROC takes care of the proper settings for a "fast" connection (3/84/3/132) but when you join directly the core.ini must be correct. Sorry to hear about the server, when did you have problems? I was connected with VNC in the first 5 minutes, it would be no surprise if there were problems at that time. Bye, Luca Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 25, 2009, 11:53:37 PM +0000 Server replay available at
http://www.gpfun.net/public/?p=/public/scripts/files.asp&path=/Replays/Extras Download than execute the .exe file to unzip the replay. It's not a virus ;) Track: Monza Sun Jan 25 23:27:00 2009 RACE RESULTS (After 34 laps) Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time Diff Problem 1 67 Gianluca Errera Lotus ITA 34 50m36.549s 2 67 Michelangelo Giovannini Ferrari ITA 34 50m48.143s 11.594s 3 67 davide grappolo Eagle ITA 34 50m53.264s 16.715s 4 67 Francesco Uscidda Ferrari ITA 34 51m05.935s 29.386s 5 90 John Roberts Brabham GBR 34 51m26.438s 49.889s 6 90 William Tway Ferrari USA 34 51m46.877s 1m10.328s 7 67 Davide Graci BRM ITA 33 50m46.158s 1 lap(s) 8 90 Tim Muttram Cooper GBR 33 51m08.133s 1 lap(s) 9 67 Maurizio Marchetti Brabham ITA 31 47m25.642s 3 lap(s) 10 90 Neil Stratton Honda GBR 16 24m32.983s 18 lap(s) 11 67 Paolo Minotto Lotus ITA 14 20m50.005s 20 lap(s) 12 90 Hristo Itchov Ferrari GBR 14 20m50.212s 20 lap(s) 13 90 65 evilclive Eagle GBR 11 16m58.943s 23 lap(s) 14 90 lorenzo galluzzi Lotus ITA 10 14m46.390s 24 lap(s) 15 67 Sergio Lonzar Cooper ITA 9 13m58.750s 25 lap(s) 16 90 Ken Murray Lotus GBR 7 10m26.689s 27 lap(s) 17 90 Phil Thornton BRM GBR 3 5m06.382s 31 lap(s) 18 67 Fulvio Policardi Honda ITA 2 3m16.703s 32 lap(s) 19 67 Luca Varani Lotus ITA 0 DidNotStart 34 lap(s) 20 4 GPFUN.NET Brabham ITA 0 DidNotStart 34 lap(s) Race results are unofficial (Replay might have been saved before end of race) RACE FASTEST LAPS Pos Driver Time Lap 1 Paolo Minotto 1m27.436s 10 2 lorenzo galluzzi 1m27.967s 5 3 Ken Murray 1m28.380s 4 4 Hristo Itchov 1m28.412s 13 5 Gianluca Errera 1m28.418s 32 6 davide grappolo 1m28.646s 30 7 Michelangelo Giovannini 1m28.870s 11 8 William Tway 1m29.247s 33 9 Francesco Uscidda 1m29.443s 16 10 John Roberts 1m29.733s 29 11 65 evilclive 1m29.816s 7 12 Maurizio Marchetti 1m30.105s 30 13 Neil Stratton 1m30.141s 13 14 Davide Graci 1m30.523s 33 15 Sergio Lonzar 1m30.825s 4 16 Tim Muttram 1m31.114s 33 17 Phil Thornton 1m32.005s 2 18 Fulvio Policardi 1m33.050s 2 19 Luca Varani No time 20 GPFUN.NET No time LEADERS Driver Laps Paolo Minotto 1-4 lorenzo galluzzi 5-10 Hristo Itchov 11-13 Paolo Minotto 14 Gianluca Errera 15-34 Number of lead changes: 4 Number of leaders: 4 LAPS LED Driver Laps led Gianluca Errera 20 lorenzo galluzzi 6 Paolo Minotto 5 Hristo Itchov 3 HIGHEST CLIMBER Driver Start Finish Change Tim Muttram 18 8 10 John Roberts 12 5 7 Maurizio Marchetti 15 9 6 davide grappolo 7 3 4 William Tway 10 6 4 Michelangelo Giovannini 6 2 4 Gianluca Errera 5 1 4 Francesco Uscidda 8 4 4 Neil Stratton 13 10 3 Davide Graci 9 7 2 Sergio Lonzar 16 15 1 Luca Varani 19 19 0 Phil Thornton 17 17 0 GPFUN.NET 20 20 0 65 evilclive 11 13 -2 Fulvio Policardi 14 18 -4 Hristo Itchov 4 12 -8 Paolo Minotto 1 11 -10 lorenzo galluzzi 2 14 -12 Ken Murray 3 16 -13 ON TRACK LAPS Driver Laps/Total Percent Francesco Uscidda (34/34) 100.00 Michelangelo Giovannini (34/34) 100.00 John Roberts (34/34) 100.00 William Tway (33/34) 97.06 davide grappolo (33/34) 97.06 Gianluca Errera (32/34) 94.12 Tim Muttram (32/33) 96.97 Davide Graci (31/33) 93.94 Maurizio Marchetti (29/31) 93.55 Neil Stratton (15/16) 93.75 Hristo Itchov (14/14) 100.00 Paolo Minotto (13/14) 92.86 lorenzo galluzzi (10/10) 100.00 65 evilclive (10/11) 90.91 Sergio Lonzar (9/9) 100.00 Ken Murray (7/7) 100.00 Fulvio Policardi (2/2) 100.00 Phil Thornton (2/3) 66.67 RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY (first lap excluded) Driver Avg Deviation Std Deviation Avg Laptime Laps Fulvio Policardi 0.000 0.000 1m33.050s 2 lorenzo galluzzi 0.153 0.218 1m28.147s 10 Hristo Itchov 0.222 0.260 1m28.888s 14 Phil Thornton 0.276 0.276 1m32.281s 3 Ken Murray 0.289 0.355 1m28.821s 7 Francesco Uscidda 0.312 0.397 1m29.944s 34 John Roberts 0.316 0.428 1m30.486s 34 Michelangelo Giovannini 0.385 0.546 1m29.443s 34 davide grappolo 0.416 0.509 1m29.540s 34 Gianluca Errera 0.455 0.628 1m29.115s 34 Maurizio Marchetti 0.549 0.888 1m30.930s 31 Davide Graci 0.591 1.053 1m31.613s 33 Sergio Lonzar 0.780 0.957 1m31.846s 9 Tim Muttram 0.973 1.665 1m32.589s 33 Neil Stratton 0.993 1.775 1m31.565s 16 William Tway 1.351 3.044 1m31.079s 34 Paolo Minotto 2.295 4.312 1m29.087s 14 65 evilclive 3.561 5.941 1m32.165s 11 All times are unofficial (Replay might have been saved before end of race) Generated with GPL Replay Analyser Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 26, 2009, 12:15:29 AM +0000 Final score is 88-38, if I am not mistaken.
GPFun 18+17+16+15+12+10 : 88 points UKGPL 14+13+11: 38 I did a quick look at the server replay (race only) and connections seem fine for the little I have seen. Bye, Luca Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Will Tway on January 26, 2009, 03:13:42 AM +0000 First off, thanks to Lucav for the awesome skins. Very cool and a fantastic idea.
My connection was solid and I didn't see any warp with the few drivers I encountered. I drove a rather poor race but still had some good battles with the very talented team. I span on the second lap after the wife started an argument....I swear. :angel: I never really settled down after that (probably feeling a bit guilty) but I carried on. I was evenly matched with M. Marchetti and was working my way up his pipes until he fell off at Para. Very lonely after that. I look forward to a re-match as our star players had some bad luck. ;) Cheers and thanks again to the organizers. Grats GPFUN!!!! Will Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Ken Murray on January 26, 2009, 12:36:29 PM +0000 It was all looking so good; qualified 3rd with a new PB, and in front of Hristo, now that doesn't happen often!
Start went well, ran 3rd, then 2nd when the leader slid off. It was all short lived though and the motor went bang a couple of laps later. Seemingly I was the first to fall but many of you followed. To finish first, first you have to finish!! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: EvilClive on January 26, 2009, 12:36:54 PM +0000 Big thanks to Luca and GP Fun for the very impressive liveries and for hosting the race.
Looks like we were comprehensively wupped last night, through a series of events and incidents. I certainly had no probs with any connection issues, but maybe I was not around long enough to find out :-\. I had managed to join the GPfun practice server earlier in the day using the .org address via GPL with no probs and everything worked perfectly. Only did a couple of laps on race fuel and posted a 1:28 ish time before quitting thinking that everything was ok. Of course the race address was different and I did not have time to mess about with connection speeds etc. so I had to opt for the VROC route which you all know about. As for the enabling/disabling of speed sensitive steering or whatever..To the best of my knowledge I changed nothing ( I am definitely a "let sleeping dogs lie" computer technician grade Z. One day it worked fine...the next it was crap. Obviously something has altered and maybe reloading VROC is the way forward. It must be something in the VROC setup because, IGOR works, and joining direct works, and off line works. Still slightly cheesed off at not finishing yet another race when I would have modestly expected to score some reasonable points. :-[ Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 26, 2009, 01:04:53 PM +0000 I had managed to join the GPfun practice server earlier in the day using the .org address via GPL with no probs Of course the race address was different Actually nothing changed between the practice sessions and the race. I don't know what your problem might have been. Sorry, Luca Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Jack O'Ferrall on January 26, 2009, 09:46:13 PM +0000 Congratulations to GPFun and Gianluca, and Michelangelo and Davide who completed the podium- and also thanks again to Luca and Stex for his stylish paintwork.
Luca has posted the points totals already, showing that there's no mystery to it! The early laps weren't as difficult as we had feared when we organised the race, Monza can be tricky so well done both teams. Though we had 3 of the top four grid slots and at one stage we we were 1-2-3 fortune wasn't with us this time, and our poor number of finishers made the score very lopsided. There was some consolation as Tim got a finish at last. The grid seemed quite even though and the rematch should be as enjoyable. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: Burtoner on January 27, 2009, 06:31:14 PM +0000 Gianluca Errera bene fatto, il grappolo di Giovannini di Michelangelo e davide per le fini di podio.
For you English who dont understand Italian heres the translation:P Well done Gianluca Errera, Michelangelo Giovannini and davide grappolo for the podium finishes. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: EvilClive on January 27, 2009, 06:58:17 PM +0000 More Google Italian from our resident googler ;D
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: lucav on January 27, 2009, 07:03:54 PM +0000 il grappolo di Giovannini di Michelangelo e davide per le fini di podio. I am not so sure that what Davide and Michelangelo have between their legs had anything to do with the podium... probably. ;) Thank you guys for having the idea to start with and providing some really good racing: who cares about the result, the important thing is that we had fun! I hope we can do this again, maybe in june. Shall we switch to Silverstone for the rematch or stay in Monza? Bye, Luca Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: john roberts on January 28, 2009, 12:05:48 AM +0000 "I hope we can do this again, maybe in june. Shall we switch to Silverstone for the rematch or stay in Monza?"
to be fun we should go on our own home turf and switch to silverstone ;) yours john Title: Re: UKGPL Season 16 (2008-9) - Monza (GP 1955-71) - GPFun - Jan 25 Post by: bernie on January 28, 2009, 12:11:33 AM +0000 Gianluca Errera bene fatto, il grappolo di Giovannini di Michelangelo e davide per le fini di podio. For you English who dont understand Italian heres the translation:P Well done Gianluca Errera, Michelangelo Giovannini and davide grappolo for the podium finishes. Actually it says ... Luka erra , you eta toomucho polo you getta fatta likada micheal angelo ;D |