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Title: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on February 07, 2017, 10:56:39 PM +0000
Season 31 Works Trophy – Round 1 –  Kyalami

To commemorate the 50th anniversary of the 1967 season, the UKGPL season will take place on 10 of the 11 original circuits. For the first round of the season we go to a familiar track. Kyalami Racing Circuit (from Kyalami, My home in Zulu) is a motor racing circuit located in Midrand, Gauteng province, South Africa. The circuit has been used for Grand Prix and Formula One races and has hosted the South African Grand Prix many times.

IMPORTANT: it is policy of UKGPL to have the original pitstraight armco installed at this original track! Failure to apply the pitwall & drive in that space may result in disqualification. Follow these instructions to restore the wall if you have a mod that has removed it:
METHOD 1: To place a wall between the pits and the track, rename or remove the kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
METHOD 2: To reinstall the original Papyrus Armco, rename or remove the Armco_s.mip file from your kyalami folder.

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_9
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Sunday 12-02-2017
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Papyrus Original
Race length = 37 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes

Replays Available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season31/Grads_Works/)

TEMPORARY REPLAY LINK: https://www.sendspace.com/file/7vvc08


Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (http://simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=589&theme=6)

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

This Season we don't have a Red Zone. Moderating will be on reported incidents only. If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

The chassis token system is explained on the Works standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on February 08, 2017, 10:25:38 AM +0000
This seasons 67 series is very well supported. The Works have 17 full time & 6 reserve drivers. The Privateers 9 & 9. There is risk that the Works grid will overflow. If there are a couple of Works drivers who don't mind dropping down to Privateers that might help. To be fair anyone dropping down would be expected to take a voluntary chassis handicap. Please send  PM to me or Samb if you are interested. Aliens need not apply.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Piero Mercaldo on February 08, 2017, 06:25:59 PM +0000
Hello Billy,
unfortunately I can not do this league ..
I apologize

Ciao ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: fpolicardi on February 10, 2017, 10:40:53 PM +0000
Sorry, damage model is PRO or Intermediate?  ???


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on February 10, 2017, 11:10:41 PM +0000
Well spotted - Pro damage for Works.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Baab on February 11, 2017, 07:00:44 PM +0000
Hi Billy, given that I am a reserve I was thinking of also registering for privs so in the worst case at least I get a race.  I accept the need to take a slower horse!

Please confirm whether OK

Bob


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on February 11, 2017, 11:32:42 PM +0000
Bob - that's OK You will need to register for Privs. I will process it tomorrow evening.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: fpolicardi on February 12, 2017, 06:43:20 PM +0000
Hi, I'm not licensed to enter this series, can I have the pw for tonight race? Or do you prefer I race Privater's?
Thanks


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Cookie on February 12, 2017, 07:35:30 PM +0000
Fulvio you should register at Privateers, I will join there too  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: fpolicardi on February 12, 2017, 08:02:21 PM +0000
Fulvio you should register at Privateers, I will join there too  ;)

Thx, done it but I see now the pw. Will see in chat before the race where i can join.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on February 12, 2017, 08:46:24 PM +0000
Fulvio - I have entered you for the Privateers.

I think we now have a reasonably even split of drivers on both grids.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Doni Yourth on February 12, 2017, 09:44:40 PM +0000
I got farther than BobW!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Philippe Girard on February 12, 2017, 09:46:09 PM +0000
Disconnected after one lap  ???
 I'm disapointed and very upset, because I spend a lot of time preparing the races, I do not watch TV, and if it happens again, I stop everything.
I do not understand why such a disconnection ??? ???

good luck for all


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Samb on February 12, 2017, 09:53:25 PM +0000
Not very impressed with my efforts so far this season. Thought I'd take the Fezza this race and the pace was pretty good, but that came to nothing as I crashed out on my own accord in the race.

Very similar circumstances to last week's Historics race. Locked a front wheel under braking and under-steered off. Seems my finesse on the brakes is getting worse in my old age  ::).

I could always upgrade to load cell solution, but that would mean spending money I don't have  ;D.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: EvilClive on February 12, 2017, 10:18:17 PM +0000
Well Sam, I'm not sure if that is better or worse than:-

a)  deliberately qualifying at the rear of the grid in a car I loathe ( the BRM!) :-\
b)  taking things easy on lap 1 to avoid the inevitable "incidents" ;D
c) avoiding at least 3 incidents and about 6 cars in the first half a lap ;)
d) coming upon yet another melee and slowing enough to avoid getting involved ::)
e) getting punted into the air from behind and waiting to see if I land on 4 wheels :sweatdrop:
f) discover that I am on 4 wheels and the car is undamaged...woohoo! :sorcerer:
g) realise that I am now on the wrong side of the armco :cursing:
h) there ain't no way back onto the tarmac at Kyalami no matter how far you drive!!! :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on February 12, 2017, 10:27:41 PM +0000
Robert!! I crashed out of a safe 4th place trying to let you through - I came out of t1 with my arm in the air, I did not accelerate fast to let you through. You went for it and then seemed to slow, and I lost it making sure I didn't hit you......very frustrating.

Also Dean and Marco appeared to be going for the Al Pease award for slow driving - I know that they were trying to save points for later in the season, and had borkn cars but is this really legal? They get in everyone's way every 2/3 laps and in one person's case do not get out of the way anywhere quick enough when people are bearing down on them.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Robert Fleurke on February 12, 2017, 10:40:41 PM +0000
Sorry Colin, hated to see that m8  :(

Wasn't sure if you would give room, so took extra care, and we ended up side by side at a difficult point. It was partly undecisiveness on my behalf, but IMO you could also have lifted a bit at the straight. Did take extra care so I wouldn't take you out, but prolly overdid it...my aim was to lap everyone safely without taking anyone out...

Should have taken a slower car anyway  :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Turkey Machine on February 12, 2017, 10:48:53 PM +0000
Temporary replay link here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/7vvc08


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Syd Drake on February 12, 2017, 10:54:57 PM +0000
Now that was a fun race :)
Much better to have a great race on a track you and others know by heart, then drive on an unfamiliar track, waiting out others to crash, or crashing out yourself (veiled attempt to criticize historic div track choice  ;D).
Apparently there has been a change in igor server I wasn't aware. Almost didn't make the race cause of it, thanks Iestyn for the help in chat sorting it out.
Got on the server with about 10 minutes to go, and qualified 16th. Like Clive I took it easy on t1, but we actually managed to go through it without incident. All the way to t2 before the melle started  ;D. Managed to get around spinning cars in the first couple of laps or so and found my self in I think 9th place just behind Arf. It was going to be a long race betwwen Arf and me, as we slowly climbed through the ranks. I think Jethro was ahead of us for a bit, then between us, then he fell behind. Later we encountered Pelle. He was clearly faster but he made small mistakes which kept pushing him back. I spent a couple of really intense laps, with Pelle right on my engine the whole time. I made a slow exit out of leekuop and Pelle passed me on the straight with his Honda top speed. But after a few laps he made a mistake and it was back to Arf and me, alone 1 second apart, fighting over 4th. Until about 6 laps to go, when my engine started smoking. I followed Deans example, and tried to finish the race, but the engine gave out completely with three laps to go.
All these brabhams with enigine failures in one race, we'll have to have a word with those engine supliers  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 12, 2017, 10:55:15 PM +0000
Well, I finished and was first BRM so shouldn't be too upset - but that was not exactly the return to glory I'd hoped for.

Qualified well enough considering I had the BRM and such a long break from the '67 carset, even got a decent start but was then fired off of the outside of T1 on Lap 2 by Arf.
It looks like a combination of him catching a slide and lag that caused it, but that dropped me back to about 11th I think.
Carried on motoring and thanks to attrition I found myself up to about 7th or so again after 10 laps.
Then my monitor turned off :censored:
Luckily it didn't sound like I hit anything/one too hard while trying to slow and smash every key I could reach, but when I regained my sight I was sat just in front of T1 pointing the wrong way and now back behind Marco and Andreas.

That destroyd my concentration and after Robert lapped me I lost it and managed about 5 spins over the remainder of the race - given that I could occasionally take time off from Andreas this is annoying as I essentially stopped myself from having any hope of re-catching him :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: GregT on February 12, 2017, 10:56:26 PM +0000
I got farther than BobW!

That was terrible for some. :( I apologize Bob. I didn't know you were beside me. I don't know if I could have got the car further inside or not. I didn't know anything had happened until I watched the replay. Disgraceful.

Congrats Rob, Tristan, and Iestyn!

With poor thinking on my part, I quickly destroyed my engine. It may have been a battle with Iestyn had I shifted properly.

Thanks guys.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: roo on February 13, 2017, 08:12:41 AM +0000
Very disappointing 'race'.
As the driver behind I accept responsibility for the T2 incident that ended Doni's (& my) race, sorry Doni. I should have been more patient/smarter.
But, if you have an engine problem, surely you should move off circuit to let the rest of the field pass, not sit in the middle of the track & then turn in for the apex of a corner?

Grats to podium & thanks to admins :)
I hope for a better race next time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: MagicArsouille on February 13, 2017, 03:34:23 PM +0000
no possible to joint bY ip ....? so I joint by IGOR but then in my mods install, I have no set up for 67' ( I usualy use another instal just for 67' mod ) ....well I finally do a not perfect set up by just enought to be performer in race.....Rob was untouchable , and I don't try to fellow him but just check the gap whith Iestyn ....till the finish flag ...:)   ....2 nd for the first round it's ok for me ;)

thx org and racers .....well done Rob & Iestyn !

cua in Monaco ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Iestyn Davies on February 13, 2017, 08:16:24 PM +0000
Nice to have a full grid, joined late after helping Syd and Michael with their racelist. One run good enough for 7th with a bit left on track (and a tyre pressure tweak needed for the tyre pressure bug fix, which does seem to lose you a bit of speed from my experiences so far).

Got a slow start with not enough revs in the Cooper, but after Bob was out, Pelle spun, Jethro spun, and Greg's engine blew, I just followed Rob and Tris best I could, going from an Alesi 10-4 'just hold on to it' steering style, back to a normal 9-3 by mid-race. Leaving some margin in T1 for the plastic brake pedal, managed a good final lap for 2nd fastest lap. Every lap in the 20s and 21s, except for a minor off (24).

I thought there must be something up, Tris, for me to follow you with the same pace in the Cooper! :) Rob probably could have won with the Cooper as well.

PS. Had to laugh at your race report, Clive :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Robert Fleurke on February 13, 2017, 09:11:55 PM +0000
In hindsight should have taken Cooper. But hadn't practised and the ego took over as well ::) Used my old Braby setup tweaked with a more aggressive diff and gearings (still only using 3-4-5). Had a few good laps in quali, but messing up sector 4 meant no sub19 (which I did this morning in training) for the BT24.

In race most laps in the 19s, already early on, but also took it easy with lapped cars meaning lesser laptimes. Also spun off once following Tim's too late braking point when I was about to lap him. So all in all quite inconsistent for my standard and my racetime could have been easily 10s faster :P

It was a shame Colin had to retire after a miscommunication, and me arguably being too cautious. But there was still a lot of room on the outside IMO. Didn't notice the raised arm in the race, but saw in in the replay. I felt bad about it since we also had a nice talk at Brands last summer and Colin deserved that P4...

Will miss Monaco and reconsider my car choices for other races. But since I've raced mostly the slow cars last couple of seasons, as well in 65s and 67s, I felt I could take the Brab, also hoping for some fast car/fast driver combo's on the grid...

Well done to Tris and respect to Iestyn having to race with inferior equipment...good job finishers and commiserations to the retirements. Thanks to Jethro for server and mods for org. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Baab on February 13, 2017, 09:19:06 PM +0000
I got farther than BobW!

That's was terrible for some. :( I apologize Bob. I didn't know you were beside me. I don't know if I could have got the car further inside or not. I didn't know anything had happened until I watched the replay. Disgraceful.



No problem Greg, I should have known better than to be in that position.  I was thinking precisely that when wallop.  My initial thought was that it was warp and on reviewing the replay a few times the warp is evident from certain cameras...not your fault.  Obviously I was disappointed, reckon I'd have been in the thick of things, but it can happen at the start.

I did a bit of praccy for the race, trying different setups but couldn't get near to my pb, so a bit disappointed in that.  My qual time was the best I've managed recently tho.

Kudos to Robert, v impressive pace, I watched you for a bit in qualifying, you didn't seem to be doing anything radically different to me, just doing everything more smoothly and better, so not surprised at the lap time difference.

See you next time,

Bob


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Robert Fleurke on February 14, 2017, 09:44:26 AM +0000
Kudos to Robert, v impressive pace, I watched you for a bit in qualifying, you didn't seem to be doing anything radically different to me, just doing everything more smoothly and better, so not surprised at the lap time difference.

Cheers, I'd say at Kyalami I'm gaining most time in sector 2. The trick is to keep momentum high through and out of Jukskei, also taking a tight line through Sunset (I brake/lift off quite early there, keeping it tight and accelerating as early as possible). And ofcourse sector 3 is very important through the chicane, keeping a nice line and being smooth. This track is one of my best originals I think, and I've done a zillion laps at it, and found a good line.

It's a shame many  had to retire early in the race, yet it's great to see a full grid! ;)

PS: for those interested here (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B39vTwuASykASDgtU1ZIMzZ5eU0) is the hotlap replay and the setups I used. In an optimal lap with my current skills and setup I think a 1m18.8s is on in the BT24, still 6 tenths off Phil Woodward's WR.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 31 (2017) Graduates Cup Works (67) - Kyalami - Feb 12
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on February 22, 2017, 09:51:31 PM +0000
Mod report published.