phspok
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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2013, 09:52:35 PM +0000 » |
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Results and Replay PostedEnjoyed that, had a good tussle with Dan nearly all race, with Bob snapping at my heels You had frozen on the straight Ed. THis means the server stopped getting position data from you. Or, it stopped sending your data out to everyone else. Somewhere between our server and you something is dropping packets big style at some point COuld be anything on the network or the server itself, if it keeps happening to only you, we have to suspect some router in the network in your route first. If the server was at fault you would expect random, and lots of people to get dropped. We did some experiment with my home server, and for some people it was better, as if the route was more kind to them. it is less dependable than the main server though, so I don;t use it unless this one is broken. If you give me your IP i will do some testing from the server to you and some other IPs
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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2013, 10:03:19 PM +0000 » |
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2013, 10:05:42 PM +0000 » |
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If you give me your IP i will do some testing from the server to you and some other IPs
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Alex vV
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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2013, 10:06:36 PM +0000 » |
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My pc has finally decided to call it a day Looks like I'm out for the foreseeable future until I decide exactly what I'm going to replace it with. Sorry to hear about your hardware problems. I am also looking to replace my aging kit. If you like to share your new configuration, it is appreciated. Still confused about what to buy best so I can easily run PnG (and a bit of FSX). Thanks.
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2013, 10:07:12 PM +0000 » |
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Don't give up, Johnny. Everyone makes mistakes at times, and I have never had a problem with you in the WSL. Don't miss out on the fun!
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Alex vV
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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2013, 10:24:21 PM +0000 » |
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Johnny, dont give up so soon. Maybe it is a good idea buying some second hand Logitec wheel of some sort. However i believe having more online practice, you get used to other drivers around and how everybody reacts on track.
Yup, it takes a bit but then there are always drivers around you can have battles with. Just like in real racing you have to give eachother some room and once in a while it goes wrong (refer above), as long it is not intentional.
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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2013, 10:54:03 PM +0000 » |
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I don't think I'm cut out for on-line racing. I try to keep as safe as possible and usually end up going backwards early on because I'm so cautious but I just can't seem to mix it without getting into trouble. To be honest I'm sure the main problem is (and I'll pause while you all laugh heartily..........) that I currently use a pad to race. My wheel is bust and it'll be a while before a new one arrives on the scene. Because of that I just don't have the "control" to mix it, particularly with aggressive opponents who don't know that I'm going to be braking very differently, steering differently and accelerating differently. Think I'll give the on-line stuff a miss till after the new year when, hopefully, I'll be using better gear.
Anyways, sorry again Postal... see you all later.
Any wheel that you can lay your hands on will be a vast improvement on what you are doing now, but I guess that you know that already if you have a broken one. What wheel is it and what exactly is broken? Also, where are you located? Don't give up.
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phspok
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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2013, 11:24:54 PM +0000 » |
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C:\Users\PeterA>tracert 93.139.118.105
Tracing route to 93-139-118-105.adsl.net.t-com.hr [93.139.118.105] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms rt0.sax.uk.gamingdeluxe.co.uk [81.19.219.1] 2 76 ms 6 ms 4 ms 10ge-3-3.rt0.thn.bandwidth.co.uk [217.146.94.9] 3 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms ge-1-0-3.rt0.thn.uk.goscomb.net [46.17.60.69] 4 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms gi3-0.lonth-inter-1.interoute.net [195.66.224.53] 5 29 ms 29 ms 46 ms ae2-0.lon-001-score-2-re1.interoute.net [84.233.218.185] 6 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms ae0-0.lon-001-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.218.189] 7 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms ae1-0.ams-koo-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.190.57] 8 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms ae0-0.ams-koo-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.190.2] 9 17 ms 18 ms 17 ms ae1-0.fra-006-score-1-re1.interoute.net [84.233.190.50] 10 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms ae1-0.vie-per-score-1-re1.interoute.net [212.23.43.25] 11 43 ms 43 ms 43 ms 89.202.166.102 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * ^C C:\Users\PeterA>ping 93.139.118.105
Pinging 93.139.118.105 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 93.139.118.105: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
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To My website: C:\Users\PeterA>ping matt-rowe.co.uk
Pinging matt-rowe.co.uk [213.171.218.172] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 213.171.218.172: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=250 Reply from 213.171.218.172: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=250 Reply from 213.171.218.172: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=250 Reply from 213.171.218.172: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=250
Ping statistics for 213.171.218.172: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 9ms, Average = 9ms
C:\Users\PeterA>tracert matt-rowe.co.uk
Tracing route to matt-rowe.co.uk [213.171.218.172] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms rt0.sax.uk.gamingdeluxe.co.uk [81.19.219.1] 2 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 10ge-3-3.rt0.thn.bandwidth.co.uk [217.146.94.9] 3 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms linx.bb-c.the.lon.gb.oneandone.net [195.66.224.98] 4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms te2-1.prt0.fhcon.fasthosts.net.uk [88.208.255.57] 5 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 88.208.255.25 6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms server213-171-218-172.livedns.org.uk [213.171.218.172]
Trace complete.
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My Home router is not set to respond to ping,as yours doesn't seem to either but it traces: C:\Users\PeterA>tracert phspok.dyndns-web.com
Tracing route to phspok.dyndns-web.com [86.143.6.142] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms rt0.sax.uk.gamingdeluxe.co.uk [81.19.219.1] 2 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 10ge-3-3.rt0.thn.bandwidth.co.uk [217.146.94.9] 3 4 ms 7 ms 7 ms linx7.ukcore.bt.net [195.66.224.56] 4 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms core1-te-0-3-0-1.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [62.172.102.10] 5 40 ms 14 ms 14 ms acc2-10GigE-9-1-0.mr.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.250.155] 6 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 109.159.250.235 7 15 ms 15 ms 16 ms 31.55.165.108 8 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms 31.55.165.218 9 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 213.120.163.69 10 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 217.32.142.21 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * ^C C:\Users\PeterA>
It seems to not do more than 10 hops, so not conclusive.
Tracing the route from my house it takes a very different path.: C:\Users\Matt>tracert 93.139.118.105
Tracing route to 93-139-118-105.adsl.net.t-com.hr [93.139.118.105] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254 2 4 ms 4 ms 3 ms 217.32.142.4 3 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 217.32.142.46 4 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms 212.140.206.222 5 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 31.55.165.219 6 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms 31.55.165.109 7 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms acc2-10GigE-9-2-0.mr.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.250.228] 8 17 ms 15 ms 15 ms core1-te0-13-0-14.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.250.174] 9 16 ms 12 ms 12 ms peer2-xe11-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.130] 10 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms 195.99.126.129 11 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms croazia-telecom.milano25.mil.seabone.net [195.22.208.115] 12 42 ms 42 ms 42 ms croazia-telecom.milano25.mil.seabone.net [195.22.208.115] 13 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms hri01-gri15.ip.t-com.hr [195.29.241.65] 14 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms gdr11-hdr01.ip.t-com.hr [195.29.240.237] 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * ^C C:\Users\Matt>
Looks like something may be getting congested after Vienna, but it's ok through Italy
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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2013, 05:00:55 AM +0000 » |
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Alex, Clive, Mog et al... I hear ya and I understand what you are all saying. Went through similar problems when I first joined WSL as Mog will testify. I'm acutely aware of spoiling the race for anyone, particularly so early on in the race. I didn't get any practice for last night's event so I was feeling pretty good with my practice race pace and, quite frankly, bloody brilliant about my quali effort. I even moved up a couple of places off the line. The Fezza felt good early on and then the world fell out of my (not so soggy) bottom near the end of Lap 1 when A N Other tried a daft move (practically on the grass) and bumped me into Postal and that was it, all confidence gone, feeling like the bad guy and losing loads of places whilst I waited and from then on everything goes downhill. I'll persevere I guess. @Alex: Can't agree more. As you say, as in real racing you need to give people some room but surely that applies to everyone and I was given no room, in a proper tight spot in the first incident. @Clive: The bust wheel is a Thrustmaster F1, it's actually the pedals that are knackered but it's a rubbish affair anyway. To be honest I'd rather wait until I get the cash together to invest in a new setup rather than going down the 2nd hand route. I know I'll never be as quick with the pad BUT I consider myself pretty quick relatively and it's served me well over the years. (I'm so tuned in to the 275 S with it, 100's of laps at Solitude) I really do appreciate the sentiment and suggestions though @Mog: You know me better than anyone else here and I think you know that once I get over the initial despondency I'll be ok See you Tuesday squire @ Laguna It's 5:00 am in deepest darkest Lancashire now and I got to get ready for another day at the hands of Jag and ZF.
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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2013, 09:31:58 AM +0000 » |
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It's 5:00 am in deepest darkest Lancashire now and I got to get ready for another day at the hands of Jag and ZF.
Good grief, didn't know Lancashire had a 5:00 in the morning as well! I'm near Southport/Preston so I might be able to find someone to lend you a wheel, if you are not too far off towards Mogget Country.
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2013, 10:01:54 AM +0000 » |
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My pc has finally decided to call it a day Looks like I'm out for the foreseeable future until I decide exactly what I'm going to replace it with. Sorry to hear about your hardware problems. I am also looking to replace my aging kit. If you like to share your new configuration, it is appreciated. Still confused about what to buy best so I can easily run PnG (and a bit of FSX). Thanks. I'm also confused about what to buy PnG, GTL and Assetto Corsa are my requirements. I might start a thread and see what knowledge we can glean. Looks like another great turnout last night, so even more narked that I missed it
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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2013, 12:49:18 PM +0000 » |
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Had a good race last night, by my standards, only spoiled by me getting the gear ratios totally wrong. Other 914's left me for dead on the long straight although it was fine in the corners. One big plus for me was my fastest lap in the race, well faster than qualifying. Totally enjoyable despite finishing position. Thanks to all, Bob.
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« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2013, 04:01:46 PM +0000 » |
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It's 5:00 am in deepest darkest Lancashire now and I got to get ready for another day at the hands of Jag and ZF.
Good grief, didn't know Lancashire had a 5:00 in the morning as well! I'm near Southport/Preston so I might be able to find someone to lend you a wheel, if you are not too far off towards Mogget Country. Oh dear... I hail from the home of the current Championship leaders, so I guess that makes me a Dingle Very kind offer Clive and much appreciated. My best mate has a G27 which he passes on to me occasionally so I'll use that when I have it and the current financial forecast seems to predict that I should be able to purchase one myself once I've got Xmas out the way. At the end of the day, despite my many years on this rock, I've still got to learn to hide my disappointment and not let it get to me so much. I'll be around for the next Thursday event with a different mind-set and a revised strategy (I'll just start from the back and follow everyone else around... lol). Cheers.
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« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2013, 08:08:04 PM +0000 » |
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Johnny X !!!!!!!!!!!!! They already told you not to quit (and i`m telling you that) because you`ll miss so much if you do that. Here we have friendly atmosphere and competitiveness in same time where everybody finds his own opponent in race and have a good time fighting each other fair and square ... sometimes sh** happen but main thing is not by intention!
btw just watched replay and i don`t see any misbehavior in your driving ... only unfortunate circumstances that could happen to any of us for example I also squeezed johnw because i don`t have triple screen or whatever - wasn`t aware that he was there so no intention and,luckily, no big damage
@ Niels - no need for apology because half of guilt is on my side - saw you in my mirror but forgot that you are in a lighter car with better tires an i pull, what i call, stupid move by closing the door when it`s too late.
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