SimRacing.org.uk

UKGPL => UKGPL Races => Topic started by: EvilClive on December 03, 2020, 08:51:35 PM +0000



Title: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: EvilClive on December 03, 2020, 08:51:35 PM +0000
Season 37 F1 Full Grand Prix – Round 10 –  Monza 10K

Just 2 races left in the season and a possible 5 way battle for the championship.

This season we are experimenting with some Grand Prix length races which we estimate should take 90 mins to complete.
This change to our normal format has required some changes to our rules and etiquette, so please read everything carefully to ensure that you understand.

Server = UKGPL_8
IP = see iGOR
Race date = Sunday 6-12-2020
Time = 20:30 UK time (21:00 GMT) RACE WILL START AT APPROX 21:00 UK LOCAL TIME
Track = Monza 10K  Link
Race length = 37 Laps (90 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Password: see above
Replay = https://www.sendspace.com/file/l7xk11

Please check the Season 37 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1142&theme=6) regarding rules.

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY AND BE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND.
QUALIFYING
During qualifying drivers are expected to drive back to the pits after each qualifying run. It is not permissible to return to the pits using the "Esc" key. If a driver crashes his car in qualifying and cannot return to the pits safely under his own power, he must not participate in the remaining qualifying period. The driver will allocated the grid slot achieved at that point.
REFUELLING
On some tracks it may not be possible to complete the full race distance on one tank of fuel. To avoid having to drive conservatively in order to save fuel, it is recommended that drivers make use of the Pit Stop patch which allows refuelling. Details are on the UKGPL web site on the Game page under the rules section.

We are using Lee Bowden's pit stop patch V 1.0 available here
http://srmz.net/index.php?s=2f2b26bfa1b153fa8e44e9fc470d61a9&app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=28268

This patch allows cars to refuel in the pits to the same level as when they started the race and does NOT allow for tyres to be changed.
 You do not have to make a pitstop and may choose to run the whole race by filling your tanks from the start.

For Season 37 we are promoting the use of TEAMSPEAK for those who wish to use it. Details can be found here
This allows drivers to speak to each other if they wish, IT IS NOT COMPULSORY.

Important!!!
RED FLAG RESTARTS
We hope that drivers will be cautious on Lap 1 and avoid any moves that might cause a crash.
However, because this is racing there might be an occasion where several cars are eliminated, or badly damaged, by an incident on lap 1 and we could be left with 4 cars that have a lonely 90 minute race ahead of them.
If the moderator decides that any such incident on Lap 1, has removed too many cars from the race, he is able to order a RESTART, and he will announce this on Teamspeak and then through GPL CHAT.
The server will be shut down and restarted. There will then be a SINGLE lap qualifying session to determine the grid placings. Drivers will be allowed a single outlap followed by ONE flying lap to set a grid time. After completing your flying lap please pull off the track and ESC to pits to keep the track clear.
A Restart will only be called ONCE for each race and will only apply to Lap 1 incidents. If there is a multi car incident on Lap 2 then tough luck!! These are long races and a certain amount of caution should be used.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.



Registered drivers are  :    Car allocated
BELOW IS THE REVISED CAR ALLOCATION FOR THE FINAL 5 RACES.  PLEASE CHECK THAT YOU KNOW WHICH CAR YOU SHOULD USE.

WORKS

AndyL (FT)                            Ferrari            
uli (FT)                                 Cooper
Enrique Farina                      Honda
EvilClive (FT)                        Cooper                
fpolicardi (FT)                       Ferrari
JonnyO (FT)                          Honda
MagicArsouille (FT)                Honda
Renato Jungle                       Brabham
Fgubbels                              BRM
Raoni Frizzo (FT)                   Honda
Iestyn                                  Cooper
Eric Bilodeau (FT)                 Eagle
Markus Friedrich                   Cooper

PRIVATEER

Rainier (FT)                      
bagrupp (R1)                    
Cookie (FT)                         ALL PRIVATEERS HAVE FREE CHOICE OF CHASSIS FOR THE FINAL 5 RACES.
RBald (FT)                        
Alain Maurice                    
Daniel San                              
nono                                
Philippe Girard          


The intention is to promote close racing for the duration of the race and is based upon driver's previous performances within UKGPL.
The car allocations have been reviewed, so please check which car you should be using for the remaining 5 races.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: AndyL on December 03, 2020, 11:10:35 PM +0000
The last long race of this long season in this long year ...
That UKGPL 67 lap record at the top of this page was actually made at Monza Milano, which is about 3 seconds a lap faster than Monza 10k. I was in that race back in 2005 (along with Clive Loynes of those still active here). You may wonder how a Cooper won that race at such a fast circuit. Well, we were handicapped by pitstops for both chassis and driver skill. So a fast driver in a fast car would have multiple lengthy pitstops and a comparatively slow driver in a slow car may not have to stop at all. It kept the racing interesting to the end.

37 laps here may be interesting to the end too. Does a full fuel tank stretch that far? Maybe.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: EvilClive on December 04, 2020, 10:04:30 AM +0000
 For the last race of the season I was keen to challenge the drivers, so the distance is probably pushing the limits of the fuel tanks...but pit stops are available to refuel  ;).

If you feel that your car might be thirsty, do not forget to download and install the pitstop patch in the race announcement. I would suggest that you all check how much fuel your car uses before the race, YOU DO NOT WANT TO RUN OUT OF FUEL ON THE LAST LAP  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: fpolicardi on December 06, 2020, 09:37:13 PM +0000
Nice end to the GP season  >:(
Philippe why the hell you stomped on the brakes when your engine popped and ended sideways locking the way just before tunnel where there isn't space for evasive moves? You had already done that at the start of Wiesbaden race collecting some drivers in the process. Why you didn't let the car slow down itself? Johnny and me couldn't avoid you cause we hadn't clear view ahead with so many cars trying to avoid you and ended stuck on the wall, oh my poor neck  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: Enrique Farina on December 06, 2020, 11:03:22 PM +0000
 :clap: :clap: CONGRATULATIONS JONNIE FOR THE SCHAMPIONSHIP, GREAT JOB BUDDY, I'M HAPPY FOR YOU TEAMY,
  CHEERS  :notworthy:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: AndyL on December 07, 2020, 12:08:51 AM +0000
Grats to Axel on the win and Alain for 2nd coming from the back. After being 1-2 early at the last race, you made it happen this time. Sad to see Jonny an early casualty to stop his record of never finishing lower than 4th all season. Enrique needed 3rd place here to win the championship if Jonny scored no points, but the Lotus and Eagles were too fast here. Interesting to see a pitstop for fuel, but I don't think it helped. Raoni's Honda made it all the way.

I sat at the back with Dave Rainier, the respected GP lantern rouge, to let things happen early on in front. Gradually my position improved without me doing very much and then the race finished. I was very happy to see the chequered flag, because that was my goal at the start of this series and I am the only driver to have seen it in all races (although I might have been a lap or two down when it waved at times). Enrique fell a few laps short only at Solitude. I was very fortunate to be driving the Ferrari throughout. I would never have been in contention if I had to drive the Honda for five races like the rest of the final top 5. I think it is important for drivers to be able to mostly have cars that they are happy to race in, otherwise they won't keep coming back.

Congratulations to Jonny as Series Champion. Very well deserved.

I was pleased to see that the moderation status progress, that had stalled in this and other series, has now been progressed along to "completed" in many cases. Thanks to the admin team.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: EvilClive on December 07, 2020, 08:47:34 AM +0000
*******CONGRATULATIONS TO JONNY FOR THE SEASON CHAMPIONSHIP *******

Going in to the last race the championship was still not decided, which kept things interesting for all.

Grats to Axel, Alain and Eric on the podium for the final race and of course to all finishers.

When we set up this series at UKGPL we had no idea that it would be so popular, so many thanks GPL Brazil and to all of you who took part and made it so successful.
I must also praise the general standard of driving, there were of course some incidents and accidents, but no major moderating to be done.

Behind the scenes at UKGPL we are working on what we do next season and there is a good chance that there will be some 90 minute races, perhaps without the car allocation system which some drivers did not like  ::), (although it did keep the championship alive for all 10 races  ;)).

Thank you all again and we hope to see you next season for more long distance GPL fun.  :thumbup2:




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: Philippe Girard on December 07, 2020, 09:40:56 AM +0000
I am sincerely sorry,Fulvio
I thought I was doing the best I could after my engine exploded.  An old reflex that pushes me to brake when I should have let go. You're right, I'm really sorry :-\
I'm not sure the translation is good


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: Lasse Albrecht on December 07, 2020, 10:11:14 AM +0000
*******CONGRATULATIONS TO JONNY FOR THE SEASON CHAMPIONSHIP *******
Behind the scenes at UKGPL we are working on what we do next season and there is a good chance that there will be some 90 minute races, perhaps without the car allocation system which some drivers did not like  ::), (although it did keep the championship alive for all 10 races  ;)).

To quote one driver I have talked with regarding the car allocation system: "It feels like a punishment when you are being put into the Honda for the remainder of the season just because you practice a lot in general"
I can somewhat feel him despite having never raced in the GP series before, and though it's true that as you said it did keep the championship alive, the system might need some reconsideration.
But the discussion pertaining this issue belongs in the end of season thread.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: Alain Maurice on December 07, 2020, 12:21:23 PM +0000
****** CONGRATULATIONS TO JONNY FOR THE SEASON CHAMPIONSHIP ******
[/font]

Bravo Axel for this great victory, we had a huge advantage with our cars and this time we were able to finish the race :)
Well done Eric for this 3rd place too.
I was afraid of an incident at the start of the race and in order not to embarrass the championship leaders I preferred to start further on the grid.

With the speed of my Eagle, I had a big advantage besides the aspiration, I had a race with a lot of fun and only went off the track once at the end.

My fuel calculation was also impeccable, no need to go back to the stand.

Well done Jonny, Enrique and Uli because you didn’t have an easy car but your talent will have made you do very well.
Other riders who were also very quick were penalized by the cars, myself, who was in Honda, could not achieve anything with them.
Perhaps for next year, leave the free choice of cars for everyone but with the obligation to drive all the cars at least once in all the championship (twice if minimum 14 races) as well as a bonus points for the cars used.
Ok for the GrandPrix 100%

Thank you to the organizers and happy holidays to all 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: fpolicardi on December 07, 2020, 01:07:54 PM +0000
I am sincerely sorry,Fulvio
I thought I was doing the best I could after my engine exploded.  An old reflex that pushes me to brake when I should have let go. You're right, I'm really sorry :-\
I'm not sure the translation is good
Thx Philippe, no problem, I wrote soon after the crash and I was upset, a thing that is never to be done. Better have a beer or two and let pass the night  :)

Grats to Johnny for the championship, a solid and fast driver that deserve the win. About cars, I had to drive the Honda for the first part, a car that I usually don't drive, but it helped me to know it better even if I couldn't push it too much, but I managed to finish all the races. In Ferrari I was a bit better, but I had a couple of unlucky crashes. I think we have already run a season with all the cars to use, but I prefer to not have to change car every race. Two cars in a season is good for me, maybe not in Honda again  ;D
Thx all as usual to mods.  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: Cookie on December 07, 2020, 02:43:41 PM +0000
@Fulvio

I totally agree - the GP series should represent real life as close as possible - in 1967 the driver made a contract at the beginning of a season.

In my case, I wasn't happy at all to get the 49 - and it cost me a lot of sweat and tears to learn understand this beast.
But I have never witnessed so much progress in my experience in a season driving the 67s.
I am a GT driver from my heart and the 67s allways were a too big challenge for me...

@Alain

not a good idea imo as we two lost a fun fight and you would not have disturbed the fight of the Champs at all - au contraire - you had to pass all of them in the race...
So the race became a bit boring for me and I made the only little mistake caused through wandering thoughts...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: Philippe Girard on December 07, 2020, 03:17:53 PM +0000
jonny also went out because of my behavior.I'm sorry.
 It's a good thing that my Brazilian friend became champion after all. I would have been sad that you were not champion because of me.
fulvio, again my apologies, I ruined your race and jonny's race.
I was surprised by the broken engine, I brake, I didn't think about it. :-\

Bravo jonny'o :wetfish:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: uli on December 07, 2020, 04:45:55 PM +0000
Congratulations Axel to your sovereign victory, also to the flying eagles of Alain and Eric and especially to Johnny for the championship title! :thumbup2:
Even if I only was last finisher, I was happy with my race. Only one mistake when Alain overtook me before the Parabo I lost control. But also without this I would have had no chance to fight for the title on my own power.  :no:
The first four laps were exciting, especially the start !!!, Philipp's engine failure and Tristan's spin - avoiding, avoiding and avoiding again. After that it was a bit boring - unfortunately, I could not do more with my Cooper yesterday. Maybe things would have been different on Monza67?
Nevertheless, big compliments to you Clive, who made this exciting championship possible. I never have participated in a championship in which 4 drivers still had a chance to win the title in the last race, even if only theoretically.
So I‘m looking forward what is offered here for 2021.
I like Alain's idea. Why not try something like that?  :yes:
Another idea would be to go back to the old token system. But then to give the podium drivers less points for the next race (only 1 for the winner - 4 for the second - 7 for the third), similar to the LBGPL?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: JonnyO on December 07, 2020, 07:03:18 PM +0000
   I could hardly believe that I would have won the championship again, I was told by the whatsapp message from my friend Farina.
  I was already on the plane returning to Brazil.
  And I would never have a grudge against my friend Girard, it was a racing accident.
   This season gave me two different sensations, first the big surprise when I saw the large number of finishers in the 90-minute races, the high level of the riders in these conditions, we did high-speed races at the concentration limit, that was very impressive. On the other hand it was devastating to my physique, my neck was getting worse with each run, the tension is causing me pain after 60 minutes is very complicated.
  But I believe that the last race did not exactly reflect a good dispute from the finalists, and just for this reason the championship fell on my lap, the other finalists were unable to reach the podium points, they couldn't try more points with bad cars in Monza 10K ,that is, luck was on my side more once, it’s the third championship I won on mod67 here at UKGPL S34, S35 and now S37. Frankly, in all of them I was not the fastest driver, I think the more than 2,000 races on line, are something that I am enjoying regularly, with so many races there is no need for training and more training, just a slap 15 minutes before each event, for those who run regularly in 6 different leagues, it has to be that way.
    In this championship some races from Andy and Uli were impressive fast, worthy of applause. And my friend Farina we were walking together and disputing point by point for millimeters. In the end the regularity of the 4 suitors was something of note.
  About the next year, maybe I can't do it with 90 minutes, but I don't want to be someone who does something out of the majority, I need to sit down with GPLBrasil's people and evaluate the year as a whole.
  We still have the mod55 to finish, and I would like to thank all the administration of the UKGPL for the work, this impressive automated website that gives comfort to the users. I would like to apologize for any mistake for Phill Thorton, always very attentive and patient!
  Having the chance to play this championship again is very important to me, as the UKGPL is without a doubt the most open and welcoming league we know and it is an honor to be here.
  Thank you all

* Congratulations to the Monza 10K podium, Cookie was an absolute emperor, marketed for showing speed previously, but with little result in races, but this time it was the guy who saw the green light and the checkered flag !!!! And I saw Alain in the podium, a true gentleman driver, that I’ve known since F1legends days, and I was very happy to see my friend Bilodeau climbing the podium in a 90-minute race, I’m sure he was electric with that!!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: Doni Yourth on December 07, 2020, 08:02:55 PM +0000
Grats on emerging as champion, Jonny!  :)

Well done to Ricky & Uli for podium runs in the title race.

Grats to Axel on the race win and to Alain & Eric for taking podiums.  Well done.

PS: Still looking for the race replay link.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: Enrique Farina on December 07, 2020, 08:36:17 PM +0000
After having had several beers in honor of the champion, and great friend Jonnie, I will now narrate my race strategy.
   I was doing tests with the honda with full tanks, and each lap I made was 2 to 3 seconds slower than with half tanks.
  I started to think that it would be about 30 seconds of refueling and if jonnie came out with full tanks and could get 2 seconds per lap, I could have a 10 second margin on him when he came out of the pits, but unfortunately I couldn't check with him, but Yes, with the other Brazilian friend Raoni, what happened to me when I was tanking and I couldn't reach it anymore.
  But making a parenthesis, if I had started with full tanks, maybe I would have arrived in 5 or 6 positions, and with a pit stop I would have arrived in 5 or 6 positions, it would have been almost the same, I needed to arrive 3 to win the champ, but Against the eagles and lotus it was totally impossible also with that quality of handling with those who drove it, very well axel, alan and eric, with those bullets.
  but an excellent job from raonni with the same car of mine, achieving that 4 position.
  Anyway with a pit stop or without a pit stop, it would have ended the same, there was no way to try to reach 3rd place, or just hope that luck would bring me up, but I don't like things like that.
  We had a season of fighting from you to you with Jonnie in all the races, one of them hurt me an accident with Tristan, which fortunately I could continue and the one that hurt me the most was loneliness, that I crashed alone, on the penultimate lap, there I can say That he lost the championship, since in Mexico Jonnie was very strong and there was nothing to do there, against him.
  Anyway, thank you very much for this beautiful championship, I enjoyed it a lot and as my brother Joao says, one ends with the neck, back, hands, and all this old body very sore, but I'll be here next year, so thanks guys for everything ...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: Cookie on December 07, 2020, 10:40:20 PM +0000
oups  sorry

The replay - https://www.sendspace.com/file/l7xk11


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: AndyL on December 08, 2020, 01:00:55 PM +0000
I just noticed that I can scroll down on below the championship table and find more stuff.

Congratulations to Dave Rainier on becoming Privateer Champion, never finishing lower than 2nd in his 8 scoring races. Very consistent.

Congratulations to Enrique Farina, who is Works Champion. Finishing level on points with Jonny, I think I'm right in saying that he wins because he had 2 poles compared to Jonny's none. I thought that it was separated on number of wins, 2nds, 3rds if scores were level, but no. In the Rules tab in the blue line at the top of this page, third post, it says that if scores are level, then it is decided by number of events entered, followed by best finish, then best qualifying, before looking at how many wins, etc. Enrique did indeed have more wins than Jonny, but it was the poles that made him first!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: fpolicardi on December 09, 2020, 12:22:25 AM +0000
Yep Johnny, we need some phisic training to afford this long races, I think we all aren't twenty no more, and neither fourty  :wheelchair:
My main problem are with my eyes that start tearing after about thirty minutes of race.  :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Grand Prix - Monza - Dec 6
Post by: Cookie on December 09, 2020, 12:41:06 AM +0000
Yes Fulvio

With 70+ you notice every year in your bones

I had to loosen my muscles to avoid cramping, on the long straights I did loosening exercises with my arms and neck.