Title: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Cookie on January 18, 2020, 01:22:09 PM +0000 Season 36 69x Trophy – Round 1 - Zolder 67
The first race of this season will be at Zolder in Belgium. In the days before Spa became a permanent fixture on the F1 calendar, ten grand prix were run at Zolder. Most famously in 1982 when Gilles Villeneuve tragically lost his life during qualifying. The new Zolder 67 version is a great piece of track building by Remy and Ginetto.
Driver lists and divisional rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=862&theme=6) "Junior" drivers are allowed a maximum of one reset with a compulsory Stop & Go within two laps. "Senior" drivers are not allowed any resets. Only reported incidents will be moderated, there is no Red Zone. GLA + FUN Junior drivers please declare your status in this thread before this race! Available Tokens: Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: francesco on January 19, 2020, 06:45:36 AM +0000 I'm a junior(for sure :laugh:).
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 19, 2020, 06:01:16 PM +0000 Wasn't sure I'd have time to race in this championship so I've registered as a reserve. I'm a Junior as usual ::)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: MagicArsouille on January 20, 2020, 05:21:41 PM +0000 hi :)
Idon't see me on the token list ...!?.... Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Cookie on January 20, 2020, 05:48:41 PM +0000 hi :) Idon't see me on the token list ...!?.... Will be filled after the race ;) ATM it's about our Juniors, you are a Senior for shure Tris ;D PS Training server is running, test it please :dots: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: fpolicardi on January 21, 2020, 05:35:35 PM +0000 Sorry, tonight I have to baby-sitting my two grandsons, I don't know if I'll be back home in time for the start.
Ciao Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: PaulV on January 21, 2020, 06:09:31 PM +0000 Hi.
I'm a Junior. Good luck for tonight. Paul Villiers Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: francesco on January 21, 2020, 10:02:59 PM +0000 crash of the line >:(. Anyway i have noticed some strange displacement of the cars in front of me and this disturb the driving.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 21, 2020, 10:05:51 PM +0000 Disco again tonight. I hope I'm not developing a computer problem :(
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Cookie on January 21, 2020, 10:06:55 PM +0000 Server was running ok, but all seem discoed, strange my net works fine
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Rainier on January 21, 2020, 10:09:37 PM +0000 Pleasant race ...until this lap 18 or 19 !
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 21, 2020, 10:09:57 PM +0000 Server was running ok, but all seem discoed, strange my net works fine Very odd but I suppose that means I don't have to start debugging my PC.Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Cookie on January 21, 2020, 10:16:42 PM +0000 yes, not your pc!
I was wondering when the lights of the ethernet ports stopped blinking and found all disconnected, but GPL was running and saving replay... Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: uli on January 21, 2020, 10:17:40 PM +0000 shame, shame DISCO here - never had before in Zolder??? ::)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: PaulV on January 21, 2020, 10:18:54 PM +0000 Seemed an excellent connection to start with.
The 69x races use the ver1 60 fps patch yes? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: AnGex on January 21, 2020, 10:20:50 PM +0000 which version did you used?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: PaulV on January 21, 2020, 10:26:09 PM +0000 version 1 because thats what its says on the race page. All the others are listed as version 2 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: AnGex on January 21, 2020, 10:36:42 PM +0000 Right, what we gonna do now? After the strange things in the first corner I was lucky enough to survive without major damage and running in a good 3rd spot towards the end...
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: GregT on January 21, 2020, 10:36:49 PM +0000 Damn! I suck. I apologize Tristan, Axel, Phil, and whoever else I damaged or destroyed. I guess I should be disqualified. :( That showed that I need at least an hour of practice some time before qualifying starts. If I join without practice again, I'll start from the back. My apologies again.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Cookie on January 21, 2020, 10:37:12 PM +0000 Looks like a net interruption here!
Yes! My router shows in his Online-Monitor there was a reconnect at 23:01 CET , so it had lost connection before, sorry I will import the race result but it will maybe not counted! (https://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/7f183d-1579646162.png) (https://www.bilder-upload.eu/bild-7f183d-1579646162.png.html) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: MagicArsouille on January 22, 2020, 12:08:26 AM +0000 I would be happy if it's not counted this one ... was the shorted race I ever had .... I was carrfully at T1 as I see Greg totaly at the inside before T1.....but closing like this the door at the entry put you out at the exit !!Greg was spinning so I slow down to avoid him but in my back some guys don't slow enought and I'm hit by e.69x (?) and my race was over....:/
...hey guys !...we all knows to be carrefull on lap one espacialy at T1...... so what ?.... Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Rainier on January 22, 2020, 08:04:31 AM +0000 I will import the race result but it will maybe not counted! What says the rules ? Drivers must complete 50% race distance to score. Race was 34 laps so drivers who have completed 17 laps or more must score points. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: francesco on January 22, 2020, 08:36:35 AM +0000 I have used the ferrari (13pt) but for sure i'm not at home for the race at Spa.So reading the rules now i have 12 token.Right?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: EvilClive on January 22, 2020, 09:32:07 AM +0000 Turn 1 was not a great moment :-\ Apologies to Tris and anyone else that I hit from my P4 start position. I run as e.69x in 1969 cars.
I held 4th off the grid and was watching the 3 cars in front into T1. I saw the first 2 cars get sideways and appear to touch, the car in front of me ( Uli I think?) ran a little wide and braked hard. There was a gap towards the inside and it was clear that I could not stop before I hit the car in front, so I tried to force the car to the inside and bounced over the kerb...it was then that I made contact with another car ( Tris??). I almost squeezed through and there was a moment when I thought I had escaped the carnage....but no. I think the impact damaged my engine, because within half a lap after getting rolling again everything went quiet and I parked the car. :-\ Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Rainier on January 22, 2020, 09:41:50 AM +0000 I have used the ferrari (13pt) but for sure i'm not at home for the race at Spa.So reading the rules now i have 12 token.Right? It should be : 20 + 10 - 13 = 17 pts after Zolder so 17+ 10 = 27 pts for starting Montjuich then if you're missing SPA (or any of the 5 first races), 10 pts will be removed ... (so do not choose Matra MS80 for Montjuich because 27 -20 = 7 pts after Montjuich and 7-10 = -3 pts after Spa) :blink: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: francesco on January 22, 2020, 01:40:26 PM +0000 The rule says only 5 points if i miss one o the first five.
15+10=25-13=12 Calculated before or after Spa is irrelevant. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Rainier on January 22, 2020, 04:25:12 PM +0000 The rule says only 5 points if i miss one o the first five. 15+10=25-13=12 Calculated before or after Spa is irrelevant. So you are Senior ! However a "Junior" driver who fails to start any of the first 5 races will only be eligible for an initial allocation of 10 tokens (rather than 20). Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: francesco on January 22, 2020, 05:00:14 PM +0000 If i was senior:5+10-13=2 .i have done 15 for junior instead of 20
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Clive Loynes on January 22, 2020, 05:50:27 PM +0000 However a "Junior" driver who fails to start any of the first 5 races will only be eligible for an initial allocation of 10 tokens (rather than 20). That's interesting. I have always read that to mean that a junior driver who missed all of the first five races would not have the extra points. Clarification please Phil. ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: francesco on January 22, 2020, 07:56:28 PM +0000 Ops,i read wrong.5 token are only for senior.If " driver who fails to start any of the first 5 races " mean all,i have 17 token.
If mean ,only one of the first five,i have 7 token. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: uli on January 22, 2020, 08:31:19 PM +0000 Actually I had resigned myself to the fact that I just had bad luck yesterday, of course annoying, especially on P1 but shit happens - that's racing - sometimes ;)
But as I found out today I was surprised that it was a mass disco and according to the rules the race will be scored. After reviewing the replay - THX to you Axel for saving it! Just have a look on it and see how the GPL damage model works with the flying four wheel F1 - when my avoiding manoeuvre in T1 failed (I get in touch with Clive who was on the right side) and led to my rollover. Clive and I were able to continue in 5th and 6th position. Three exciting laps with Dave, Phil and Andreas followed. THX for the fair and controlled fighting guys. What a pity Tris that you, without making any mistake, were the 1st one out - BIG SRY to you. Lucky win in the end, I wouldn‘t have had a chance to stop Greg. I'm already looking forward to T1 in Montjuich next race! Let‘s make it better. (http://www.preprintweb.de/GPL/UK69_2020-01-Zolder_P1v10_auf_P2-5.png) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: AnGex on January 22, 2020, 09:33:42 PM +0000 I will import the race result but it will maybe not counted! What says the rules ? Drivers must complete 50% race distance to score. Race was 34 laps so drivers who have completed 17 laps or more must score points. I would also say: Lets count it and move forward to the next race. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 22, 2020, 09:49:11 PM +0000 Fran correctly answered his own question but to save everyone the trouble....
I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet. For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement). The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error. There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: francesco on January 23, 2020, 05:44:43 AM +0000 Quote Fran correctly answered his own question but to save everyone the trouble.... But is enough to miss one of the first five to lose 10 points?Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Phil Thornton on January 23, 2020, 06:23:24 AM +0000 Quote Fran correctly answered his own question but to save everyone the trouble.... But is enough to miss one of the first five to lose 10 points?So you can go skiing and miss the next round at Interlagos (or any of the next 4 rounds) in the knowledge that your tokens are safe. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: francesco on January 23, 2020, 07:33:57 AM +0000 Thank you Phil,i miss 2 races in the 69(spa & Le mans) and 2 in the 67(Willow & Imola).I'm ,respectively,in the Philipinas and Red sea.
Fortunately for the date of the 55 and 66 i'm at home the day before. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1969 F1 - Zolder - Jan 21 Post by: Rainier on June 06, 2020, 10:56:01 PM +0100 Moderation posted
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