Jeffrey
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2018, 09:34:59 AM +0000 » |
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Now how do we stop everyone taking Eagles and Lotus? Give everyone in those the stinkeye.
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FullMetalGasket
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2018, 01:48:05 PM +0000 » |
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What would really help to get people upto speed and encourage more to join in, is if you veteran historic single seater racers put some good baseline setups together for all to use It's not quite that easy This isn't GPL so us 'veteran' GPL'ers and whatnot are equally flailing I can stick my setups on Stracker as I go - but I only intend concentrating on the Honda, so the rest will be only the most basic improvements on the stock setup to give me an idea of pace/handling.
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Mark J
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2018, 02:48:40 PM +0000 » |
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Physics are still physics Though there will be intricasies of difference between GPL and AC, i would think (and hope) that the same setup principles apply to setting up a single seater race car of that period Any reading bumph links about setting them up on the interweb ? These move around nicely, feels great 4-wheel drifting through a corner
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2018, 04:13:25 PM +0000 » |
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I found a lot of information about the GPL cars here http://www.intothered.dk/simracing/cars.html Try the various links on this page. However, some of the settings are different to AC and use different units. I tried to recreate an AC setup based on the corresponding GPL setup and I couldn't even get the car to drive in a straight line I've since had another go which I will test tonight, but I'm not confident.
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2018, 04:33:03 PM +0000 » |
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Anyway it will be the fight with own car, not with opponents. Tryed some setup approach and not satisfied in every of that. It will be a wonder for me if i'll find a setup and will drive well stabilized. If not- let the fanat's guys fight in race without my possible stupid mistakes, when i ruining others good game and fun Track is awesome. Wishing a P962ST races here
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2018, 05:30:19 PM +0000 » |
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Laptimes for now seem to show same gaps between cars that there were at Silverstone. I'd be curious to see Honda's laptimes; FMG if possible can you compare them with the BRM? I don't know if you in VR have trouble seeing the RPMs.
About setups, I'm not a great expert. I'm using the same way like other cars in AC.
-Differential is maybe the most important thing in these cars. I like close diff.
-*Cambers: -1,5 front -0,8 rear -*Toe: neg in front and zero/slightly positive on rear -*Height: lower possible with the rear slightly higher
-Springs, dampers are relative on track -Anti-roll bars, first set the front and then the rear one to balance the handling of the car (understeering, oversteering). More bar, more precision.
-Check tire-pressure with app.
NB: * these values must be adjusted at the end, and are the values obtained. They depend on the suspension settings.
When I find a good setup (for Cooper) I will link it here using dropbox.
I think close battles are possible also with these cars, almost checking laptimes for moment. Me and Matteo have similar lap-times, here and at Silverstone.
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FullMetalGasket
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2018, 07:40:37 PM +0000 » |
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I can see the BRM rev gauge easy enough, but in the Honda it's largely obscured in VR. As the driver arm animation still works it's not a major problem. In GPL, Kyalami was one of the few tracks that let the BRM compete with the rest. Well, by rest I mean anything upto a Cooper
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2018, 05:37:39 PM +0000 » |
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I like the BRM, it is rather tail heavy, but more stable then the Eagle that I could not get to grips with it wanders around too much, like a jelly car. The Ferri is nice too not tried any others.
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goldtop
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2018, 06:31:51 PM +0000 » |
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I hope to join the fun. I'll be in the BRM as I'm really not much slower in that than in the other cars and it is a great drive. I'll probably be at the back either way having not done much racing for a while now.
Tyre wear is much greater than with other cars but I managed a 30 minute race against the AI without any issues.
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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2018, 06:36:12 PM +0000 » |
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You will be next to last that's reserved for me!
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Syd Drake
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« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2018, 08:55:19 PM +0000 » |
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There are only three cars for each make on the server. How are they allocated? I'd hate to practice with one car, just to get to the server for the race, and see it taken. I've been driving F312 with the default setup, and 1.20.055 is already better than my GPL PB
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Mark J
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« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2018, 09:47:29 PM +0000 » |
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Good point Syd, didn’t expect this mod to be quite so popular . I could do a driver entry file with peoples pre chosen cars, though that causes other problems. Easier if people state their intention to race and chosen car in this thread and we can try and make sure enough car variants are available on the server for race night.
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Syd Drake
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« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2018, 10:34:53 PM +0000 » |
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Ok, then reserve one Ferrari F312 for me
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