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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (14 laps)

Track: 1970 Sebring (GP) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg187122#post_sebring1970)

Cars allowed: Shelby Cobra Pack Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_cobraX4), Shelby Cobra 289/427.

This race will use the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

Car restrictions: Rank 1 to 7 - 240kW or 261kW spec Cobra's
                         Rank 8 and lower - any of the above plus 320kW or 354kW spec Cobra's

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk SCC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=331;theme=5)

Special Notes: This race is flag started. However the flagman is out of sync with the in-game countdown and you could get a stop/go for a jumped start if you go with the flag. I would strongly suggest that the in-game countdown is switched on for this race.

No rolling starts here. If you are going to take a monster then either a) Practise starts, and/or b)start in 2nd gear

A map of the circuit here http://www.etracksonline.co.uk/NAmerica/USA/FL/sebring67-82.html

Watch out at Hairpin! The earth bank has no barrier effect and you will drive straight threw it and into Nirvana.

Pay particular attention to the car restrictions for this race please.

Found a number of others too Tony - some of those long earth mounds do the same, I guess we need to stay on the concrete here

Can any of you setup experts tell me how to stop the car wandering on the long straights - it's annoying keep having to be on guard for it.

Yeah - seems to be a real tricky one.
Could not do a single compkete timed lap because of cut warnings, crashes, nirvanas etc.  ::)

Obviously there are no updates for this track available  :(

but - in general - Sebring (no matter which version) will not be one of my favorite tracks -
it's just an airfield - plane and bumpy, although it has seen great races over the years.

Let's see what will happen on Monday. Still some time for a little more practice.

All Cobra's or just one type. Please specify.

It was the 260 I had trouble with - moved onto the 289 FIA and find it much better re wandering on straights as well as nearly 8 secs quicker.  Will go with that - happy with it.

Find 289 FIA quite nice to drive,  my braking problems have been cured by moving brake bias forward to 65/35 %.  Found needed to drive slowly, ie brake way to early to check out corners.

I try and learn track sequence and braking points and gear for entry, then repeat to myself whilst driving each lap.

4th up start/finish straight, T1 left lift at 100 marker, T2 left brake at 100 marker, T3 left brake and down to 2nd, up into 4th for first of sequence of kinks - brake and down to 2nd at 100 marker, up into 3rd on exit from last right kink - 4th, right hairpin brake down to 1st just after 200 marker, up to 4th approaching chicane - chicane brake, down  to 2nd at 100 board.  On long straights all turns at end are right, I take 1st in 3rd and the remaining 2 in 2nd.

Once I got sequence it's trying to optimise braking and change down points for best consistent lap.  Hope the above will help.  I've gone from first timed lap with minor offs of about 4:10 to 3:30 with 260 before I was confident enough to try the 289 FIA.  Took a few attempted laps to find the new braking and gears for track, down  into 3:24s.

Thank you Bill - just practiced some laps online - much better concerning cut warnings than offline.

Could a reach a 3.12.8 so far in the 289FIA and will check your recommendations later yet.

But I still have a lot to improve.

A. Dummer did a 3.05.4 at the same time  ??? - don't know which car.

3:06 in the 289FIA and 2:59 in the 427 ..... I'm looking forward to this one 8) Ill wait and see some times tonight before i decide on my car.
But I do fancy taking  the 427 for a spin :o

IMO this track is a very poor choice for league racing. You can gain 5-6 seconds by using all possible road width, as all trackside objects are non-solid and the grip is the same regardless. I'm down to 2:59 now...

Me too  ;D I think the grass and the fence are the only boundaries on this one. You gain on the exits of the corners mainly....Its a great drift and fast to. Its going to be really hard to enforce the 2 wheels on the the track / white line rule here I think we may all be DQ.  8)

I tried running a single race with the AI and you get cut track warnings in some places, but not everywhere. That means qualifying is going to be entirely different than the race in terms of lap times lol.

;) Thanks H useful info.

Thanks for the track feedback guys. I do try to test all the tracks we use but this one has definately thrown up some nasties. Pity as there's a version by the Virtual LM crew I believe. Oh well next time, next time.

It's a very good track to drive on, it's just that it's difficult to keep within the white lines and there is nothing to punish you for going wide, at least in Qualifying. The grip is the same everywhere though, so I suggest that everyone just use as much as they can in Qualifying and keep within the line in the Race to avoid getting penalized, although there are places where you don't get a warning. I'm not quite sure where those are yet though, apart from the exit off the corner that leads on the first airfield straight.

 :o Adjusted my gear ratios on the truck at the very last moment f..ked up and sailed of into no where..........What ah mistake ah to make ah.  ;D

See you all next time.  ;D

Braked too late for the hairpin, went wide into the grass and then fell off the 3d world and kept falling down forever into nothingness.

I was the only one with a 427 and was too fast to have fun, so used the GTL 320 one which as Bill said, wanders all over the track
and is a pig to drive. managed to not fall off too many times, had some good dicing with Pelle and Hristo and later with Ken
I don't like Cobras anyway and the track was a bit odd. the new versions are less historically correct, but race better.

Sorry to Hristo for cutting across your bows at one point, the green thing went mostly where it wanted and I hardly
ever got the braking quite right anywhere. Was either too early or too late.

Ah yes, fuel... I never trust the fuel in the garage so I usually put more in than it needs, but I finished the race
with just under half a tank.....

Results and Replay now posted.

Thanks to all those who took part. I'll make sure that track version is removed and replaced with a more "race ready" version.

Jeez what a boring circuit. Kept messing up the same two corners on nearly every lap. Swopped places with Eifel several times due to us both having off's/mistakes. Finally lost the will to race and just wanted to finish. So then I run out of fuel  >:(

Not one to be remembered.

Next round couldn't be more different  ;)

Yep - was a bit boring :whistling: but also a challenge not only concerning the setup of the car.
But I didn't expect at all to see the finish line  :)

Was kind of a distant duel with Tony during the whole race.
He made a mistake - I passed; I made a mistake - he passed  :blink:.

What a pity that you got out of fuel after I passed for good during last lap :(
- I filled in for 14 laps only and was feeling still very comfortable with it.

Looking forward for more suspense-packed events.

Nevertheless thank you for organizing this event, Tony  ;)

Too many unforced errors resulting in too much time on the grass - one good lap, one bad almost.  Satisfying to set PB in race and finish - rest was carp.  Thanks Tony for promising a different version next time we visit Sebring - problem here is result of typical airfield track, feature less and flat,

Not typical IMO Bill. Other airfield based circuits offer far more interest. This, dare I say it, was typical of N.American airfield racing.

Yep that's where I went off.  :-\

I think we can all agree that this place will be a been there done that thing. Not much to say about this one other than it's the little things that make this group a pleasure to race with. One of them being when Mark Cinderby had a small off and the easiest for him to do was to get back on track right at or just before the apex of a corner and I could see him change direction so to enter the track on the exit of the corner helping to not create a mess up for the rest of the field. It cost him some time and a few spots I think but it's great to see classy moves like that 8). My race was another task of chasing Ade and at times when Pelle backed off to race a bit. Had a couple of offs early which damaged my front end which seemed to hurt the top end just a bit. Then many more errors but was amazed to be with Ade and Pelle again late in the race. Ade had a small off and was clearly giving me the track to pass but knowing what a crappy drive I was having I just felt that we all had earned ours spots at that late point in the race and just wanted for us all to get to the end. And so we did ;D Thank goodness.. Grats to Matt,Kenn and Pelle for showing us the way ;).

Don't say you weren't warned  ::)