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Season 38 - SC67 - Lola vs Ferrari Cup – Round 10 Le Mans by Night
 

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Round 10 and the finale of the S38 Lola vs Ferrari Cup we visit Le Mans by Night,
we will be racing the night version because of the better stability.
The 24 Hours of Le Mans is the world's oldest active sports car race in endurance racing, held annually since 1923 near the town of Le Mans, France. It is one of the most prestigious automobile races in the world and is often called the "Grand Prix of Endurance and Efficiency". The event represents one leg of the Triple Crown of Motorsport; other events being the Indianapolis 500, and the Monaco Grand Prix.


Please check the Season 38 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1262&theme=6) regarding rules and the Lola vs Ferrari Cup pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1312&theme=6) in particular.
In order to add an element of realism, and to hopefully reduce the possibility of rear-end incidents, the brake light patch will be used (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=13319&#entry145626)  :eek:

Race List	=	IGOR
Server	=	UKGPL_8
IP Address	=	TBA
Race date	=	04-06-2021
GPL mod	=	SC67 - Lola / Ferrari only
60fps patch	=	60fpsV2newmod
Track dir	=	nbsarthe (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=32)
Quali starts	=	20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race starts	=	~21:30 UK time
Race length	=	~50 min -> 15 laps
Damage Model	=	Intermediate
Replay	=	here (https://www.mediafire.com/file/22yulfo8a7ukm23/UKGPL_8__60fps.2021.06.04.23.28.rpy.7z/file)

Handicapping

"Works" drivers will carry extra weight in form of 10 gallons of race fuel (to remain in the tank after the race). No limit in quali!
Drivers are expected to behave in a fair and gentlemanly fashion and declare how much fuel they have left after the race.

In order to ensure there will be ~10 gallons of fuel left after the race, the minimum race fuel load for Works is expected to be:

• Lola T70 = 34 gallons (~128 litres)
• Ferrari P4 = 35 gallons (~132 litres)

2 x resets will be allowed there is no need to carry out a Stop and Go in the pit lane if you make a Shift-R.

Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.
Only reported incidents will be moderated.

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.


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Class     Driver Lola   Ferrari Works Tristan Bot     4 5 Works Enrique Farina   1 2 Works Axel Cookie 5 4 Works EvilClive 4 3 Works Raoni Frizzo 1 1 Works Fulvio Policardi 4 5 Privat David Rainier 3 4 Privat Phil Thornton 5 3 Privat Fran M 4 4 Privat Paul V 2 3 Privat Doni Y 5 4 Privat Pete Bennett 4 5 Works Greg T 1 3 Works Alain Maurice 2 2 Works Markus Friedrich   2 1 Works Mark Jones 4 3 Privat Philippe Girard 4 4 Privat maddog 2 1 Works Giovanni Centorame 2 1 Privat Christian Dauger 1 1 GLA +FUN

Hi everyone!

I did a 6 laps test run with the Ferrari and I have a fuel consumption of 6.05l per lap. That makes 90,75 for 15 laps. If I am right works drivers should start with around 131l instead of the 114l mentioned in the race post (10 gallons = ~40l). Otherwise that would be a great advantage for the works drivers.

Can anyone confirm this? Or is my fuel consumption per lap just extremely high?

Noting your post above, Markus, I just ran off a three-lap trial in the Ferrari.  Used 4.7 USG.  For the 15-lap race, I would anticipate burning 23.5 USG.  The quoted startline spec of 30 USG for the Ferrari might be a tad light then.

I will test it today, of course this is a very long full throttle track...

Just look in here later, or read the chat in quali ;)

I just testet: 4 laps  24 liter = 6 liter per lap

So the min fuel should be 132 liter 35 gal for the Ferrari (90+40)

big pc problem, no race tonight ... >:( :-[

Little frustrated here, when some driver want to win the 24h in T1  ???

The rest was catch as catch can - no fun for me   :-[

Such a shame about the turn 1 .. I was at the back and it was like a friday afternoon on the M25.  total carnage. but thats LeMans for you.  ???

I have never had a good race here, but like so many of my other unloved tracks Im improving no end just by enjoying competing. Another best PB. 6 or more seconds behind the rest of you guys but good for me, hope it went well for the rest of the runners.

I had to take a couple of resets, and both times after the reset I was put back into the car like normal, and everything was functioning fine... But i had NO throttle.

never had that before, and believe me I have had my share of Resets during my illustrious GPL career .. LOL!  So I decided to call it a Night.

I wasnt really enjoying just circulating at the back anyway.

Really enjoyed this seasons racing. Thanks Mods for all your hard work and thanks fellas for some good evenings spent Racing good 'ol GPL.

Looking forwards to next season already.  Intend to do the 65s if they are running again. Hopefully some F2 stuff and the open wheel championship is Brilliant.

Cheers All. Paul .

Unexpected result for me thanks to the accidents on the first lap.The race was a battle with Doni and Phill ,both  have a few more things than me but Phil finished the battle on the embankment.

You drove very well Fran and deserved your 4th place. We had a great 10 laps dicing with Doni. Doni timed his move to perfection and I couldn't close the gap on the last lap. I tried to get a better drive out of Virage de Mulsanne but I over did it and ended up running wide and onto the banking. The championship is tight, I've no idea who has won, the permutations are too complicated to work out in my head. I'll have to wait until the results are imported.

*** Update ***
Well subject to moderation (but I'm not aware of any incidents pending which may affect me and Doni), it looks like Doni has won the Privateers by 4 points from me. If I had managed to stay ahead of Fran I would have gained an extra 6 points. That last lap mistake was decisive.

Grats Doni, a worthy champion  :clap:

Thank you Phil but without the error on the embankement was you the winner.

My race was very much over after T1 as well. Afterwards I was somewhat frustrated and when Axel and I tried to make up positions we touched again and soon after I also had a coming together with Paul (I think it was you Paul). I simply misjudged your speed after the last left hander before the start-finish straight and slid into you. I tried to avoid you by going onto the grass but to no avail. Sorry.
Afterwards I was able to overtake a few drivers without anymore incidents. But I was so far back that I settled for a P7. Last lap Evil was out of the race, what happened to you?

To be honest, it is also somewhat frustrating that the initiators of the turn one mess still finished at the front of the pack. After Tristan and Mark touched I tried to stay to the right but was not able to avoid Marks wrack that bounced back from the wall. I guess I was not the only one whose race was ruined...

Anyway, congrats Mark. Your speed was beyond compare today. And congrats to Tristan for winning the SC championship!

And also a big congrats to Doni for P3!!

I was really disgusted for what happened at T1. Not really UKGPL standard. There were two separate contact between front runners that caused the mayhem, but there were many lost of controls behind that caused way more problems. Please watch all of us the replay and think what we could have done better.
Lap 2 I had to reset again cause I was involved in another crash from a harahiri move ahead at the fast bend at the end of the straight. Then again I missed a crash at Maison Blanche for pure luck. Soon after I moved over at T2 to not be rear ended on braking.
It was like playing Fast and Furious for the first two laps. Please fast gentleman, be patient when you catch a slower driver after a mistake...
Said that, I'm very surprised to end this season in third behind the two aliens, it's like a win for me.  :)

Some have already commented on T1 and I can only agree. Of course each driver is trying to be as fast as he can, we are not going to crawl around the first lap at 50kph but we should allow a little more room for each other? I have not watched the replay, so perhaps I was more a culprit than victim. ::)

I had quite a good launch and the inside line opened up into T1, so I hugged the inside barrier and eased off to be sure that I did not drift wide. I think Axel was to my left and running the wider line. Then I saw cars in the air up ahead and eased back even more. Getting through a crashfest like that has far more to do with pure luck than any driver skill. Initially it looked like both cars involved were tumbling towards the outside of the bend and for about 2 secs I thought that my inside line would take me through.....but then it all changed and both cars bounced back across the track and I hit the brakes hard.
It was clear that I was going straight at the wreckage, and that I could not stop my car in time and anyway the pack was coming in fast behind me?
A gap opened on the outside line and probably should have ignored it, but instinct made me ease across and I apologise if that move caused problems behind  :(. It did not help because one of the cars involved in the original incident was now trying to close that gap and succeeded in clipping  my Fezza and I was upside down for what felt like the next Km.
After a reset I had quite a lonely race. Slowly easing away from my Blue Moo.se team mate Doni and watching Mark ease away from Tris up ahead. Tris had a moment at about half distance and for a few laps I was chasing him hard. But a small touch on the barriers at T2 and a half spin allowed Tris to escape again.
3rd place was guaranteed until the last lap when I foolishly pushed for a PB. Prib was promising a low 1:21 and possibly a 1:20??
Well it all was going to plan and I was faster in each sector until the FINAL corner  :-\ I just clipped the grass on the exit and it unsettled the car....but I kept my right foot planted on the floor. If I had lifted I would have stayed on the tarmac and taken 3rd spot, but instead I ran out on to the grass and hit the concrete wall. After much spinning around I was facing the wrong way but still engine running. I tried to spin the car around but only succeeded in sticking it into the fence.................it was then that I discovered that I had no reverse gear!!!!

I was not a happy person!

I agree with the comments about the lap 1 turn 1 incident, very disappointing. On this track, more than any other, it is impossible to win on lap 1; everyone should be driving with maximum consideration for others. The incident has been reported so I don't want to prejudice the moderation process but the server replay is available for everyone to see.

The key lesson here for everyone is to stay on your own side of the track until it is safe to move over. The rules on etiquette (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/etiquette) describe when it is safe to move over and when it is not. There is a link to a page showing the views in the mirrors (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/overlap).

Drivers should not move across until they can see the whole of the opponent's car in their mirrors. This can be very difficult to achieve, especially at the start and particularly when there are so many of the same cars in the same colours on the grid. So it is easy to get confused but this is no excuse for causing an accident.

Yeah I'm pretty hacked off about the turn 1 crash too.

A race to forget here.  I've not yet found a way to make the new GT Ferrari work well, and while I tried to wring it's neck, it tried to break mine! >:( 

The grasstrack setup accidentally used, prooved very useful when exiting Mulsane corner, out beyond the sand dunes, but added to the track length.  Had we raced on a genuine Mulsanne grass surface, I believe I could've challenged for the lead, but someone decided to use asphalt which I felt, caused my disadvantage.

Managed to successfully bounce off various scenery, but clipped a Cookie when my car became verily squirrelly, into Mulsanne.  I apologise for the "Coup de gras," and cannot blame Enzo for such misfortune.  Car wrangling skills improved, as the race ran down. :-\

I'd used both Shift-Rs by the time I got to the Dunlop bridge on L1 so was a very cautious 15 laps for me. By the time I got to the Mulsanne Straight on L1 everyone had long since gone so no chance of a tow. I did have a good few laps with Philippe  but then on L8 he outbraked himself at the end of the long straight. 2 miles later and I threw myself off the track. How the car was not damaged I'll never know but thankfully it still drove OK. All I wanted to do then was get to the end in one piece.

The incident on L1 was a pity. Everyone is usually so well behaved; a league of gentlemen. When your GPL time is limited and you look forward to Friday it's a real shame to have any practice you've done go to waste. I put yesterday's pile up down to end of season excitement.

I've really enjoyed my first full season in the Sports Cars.

WOW!  For the 2nd race running, I've made the podium.  Talk about a fluke but I'll take it!  :)

Grats on a fine win, Mark.

The less said about Bot, the better.  What do you expect from a 'Type A' personality?  Bloody typical.  Sorry to see virtually everyone's race trashed barely 1000m into the race.  Grrr...

I'm confused to see that Clive lost a certain podium at White House on the very last lap.  Why didn't you reset, Evil?

I had a tremendous battle with both Fran & Phil.  Their driving was exemplary and with the slipstream, it was proving impossible for anyone of us to break away.  Til Lap14, at least.  With only a faint hope, I passed Fran mid-lap and managed a pull-away that was only possible, I suppose, when Phil ran afoul of the berm at Mulsanne hairpin and lost time.  That was only good to elevate me into a safe P4 but then, a podium with Clive in sight of the flag.  Geeezzz...

Thanks to the club for organizing.  Was fun!  :)

Hi guys :)
...a little bit sorry ( should I ? ) for the first turn - first lap....I explain  just to clarifie what's append ...( I just watch the reaplay under all angles, frame by frame ...since one hour ! )
_I take a perfect start from P3 , at 0.51 , I overtake Markus...
_end of 0.57 Mark is in front ( maybe 2-3 m), at 235 km/h and me at 241 km/h... we are side by side but I am on the racing line...
_0.58 start ...few meters later I 'm in front at 243 km/h and Mark at 237 km/h ...I'm still on the racing line to the end of 0.58 .....
_early 0.59 ....I've allways 2 wheels on the racing line, I slow a bit down aproching the curve at 239 km/h when I see Mark  at the inside ( have a look at my steering weel at the end of 0.58 and the start of 0.59, I turn my steering weel to the left ! to let room and avoid contact , I also slow down to 227 km/h ,my 4 wheels are on the racing line when Mark is 235 km:h near the white line inside ...
_at  the contact moment,( look also from cokpit vue from Markus and sky vue ! ) end of 0.59  and early 0.01.00 , the back of Mark 's car slide to the left ( see the space betwin white line and car ) and come toutch me on the middle of my car and this send me on the left wall ( I am at less than 200km/h before toutch the wall ....Mark is still full trottle !....to see me you have to look at me ....miror or pribluda ! )....who don't like to give up ??
So this is to put some lights on this racing moment in response at """ The less said about Bot, the better.  What do you expect from a 'Type A' personality?"""....so maybe the less said about me is to have a good look on the reaplay before speak and if you can explain what you meen by ""Type A' personality it's will be better for everybody !...specialy for me.

....well exept this, my race was not so bad , I done only one mistake who cost me 10s , so no chance to catch Mark whith slipstream.... Happy to win this good serie, the cars are fun to drive ....thx to all for racing ...thx Org.
maybe see you next season ;)

I don't want to go into a lot of detail here, I prefer to wait for the formal moderation but:

Being on the racing line does not give you right of way. In UKGPL the accepted etiquette is to stay on your own side of the track until you can see your opponent in your mirrors. That way you can be sure there will not be any contact when you move over. Racing line or no racing line.

This is just a bit of friendly banter, I wouldn't worry about it.

The back of my car never slides to the left until after you hit me.

Moderation published.