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  • NGT Sprint - S1 R2 - Magny C.: July 19, 2005
July 19, 2005, 09:23:40 PM +0100 - Magny-Cours (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 1 N-GT
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
Bernie Lomax
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 3 +0.961
98.619mph
1 32:17.444
92.504mph
18 1:42.033
97.583mph
Pirelli  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 6 +1.558
98.039mph
2 +30.676
91.062mph
18 1:42.525
97.115mph
Dunlop  
Brian Needham
 
Mosler MT900R NGT 9 +2.476
97.161mph
3 +39.958
90.635mph
18 1:43.459
96.238mph
Dunlop  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 11 +3.363
96.327mph
4 +48.666
90.237mph
18 1:44.642
95.150mph
Dunlop  
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 8 +1.893
97.717mph
5 +57.238
89.849mph
18 1:44.276
95.484mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 13 +4.275
95.484mph
6 +1:01.690
89.649mph
18 1:44.068
95.675mph
Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +3.797
95.924mph
7 +1:10.469
89.257mph
18 1:44.633
95.159mph
Dunlop  
malonejames
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 10 +2.933
96.729mph
8 +1:23.315
88.690mph
18 1:42.866
96.793mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 19 +7.830
92.336mph
9 +1:40.503
87.942mph
18 1:45.912
94.009mph
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 10 +1L
86.807mph
17 1:44.009
95.730mph
Pirelli  
rufbtr
 Speedworx
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 15 +5.389
94.475mph
11 +0.958
86.764mph
17 1:45.643
94.249mph
Pirelli  
Wilier
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 14 +5.371
94.491mph
12 +59.059
84.255mph
17 1:45.926
93.997mph
Dunlop  
Glide
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 17 +6.379
93.596mph
13 +1:12.996
83.674mph
17 1:47.827
92.340mph
Dunlop  
Mike Wrightson
 dE Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 4 +1.072
98.510mph
14 17 1:42.509
97.130mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 5 +1.470
98.124mph
15 17 1:43.080
96.592mph
unknown
Pirelli  
Gruf
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 18 +7.622
92.515mph
16 +7L 11 1:47.878
92.296mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Bully
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 17 +8L 10 1:52.202
88.739mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 2 +0.824
98.753mph
18 10 1:41.965
97.649mph
unknown
Pirelli  
as-here
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 16 +5.454
94.417mph
19 (+2) 10 1:46.510
93.482mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 1 1:40.001
99.566mph
20 +10L 8 1:41.978
97.636mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 20 +8.722
91.579mph
21 8 1:51.566
89.245mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 7 +1.600
97.998mph
+18L 0 ---
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unknown
Dunlop  

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Server replay time: 319s

Picnic is approaching the last chicane after Lycee, and As-here makes a lunge up the inside. Pete leaves room, they try to go through together but As-here tries to take the line through the second part of the chicane and there is contact and Pete spins out.

As-here is never level before turn-in and therefore didn't have the corner. Pete did well to leave him room and had every right to turn in on him. There is not really enough space for 2 cars through there and it was a silly place to try and overtake, especially as it was early in the race.

  • as-herepenalty — over-ambitious overtake — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 1136s

TrueTom is following Fozz very closely as they approach Chateau D'Eau. Foz moves initially to the left but then moves back to the right and brakes at the same time. TrueTom rear-ends him and Fozz is nurfed off the track.

Because Fozz changed his line from the normal racing line and also braked early and changed line at the same time, this gave Tom very little chance to avoid contact. The best course would have been either to stay right after the chicane or to have stayed left and braked normally. Changing line and braking early with a car very close behind is probably not a good idea.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1465s

Fozz is following Chris Bull into the Imola chicane. Chris gets it a bit wrong and cuts across the gravel on the first part. This slows him down a lot mid corner and Fozz rear-ends him.

No-one to blame here. Fozz couldn't avoid contact as Chris slowed a lot mid corner.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2005, 01:23:11 PM +0100 »

When I came round on the pace lap, the cones at the last chicane were missing.  But I still hit one that wasn't there a few laps later.  I guess the game replaces the cones when the race starts but doesn't put the graphics back  Roll Eyes
For me there were no cones in the last chicane (visualy and physicaly) but in the middle of the road on the start/finish straight. I hit it pretty bad but still managed to rejoin in one piece. I'm more woried about CTD which I've never experienced before.
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« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2005, 01:41:00 PM +0100 »

Cool, I use the same settings. I wonder if there is some way I could FTP this? Or we could try a 12Mb email?  Shocked
If you have any free webspace from your ISP, you could use it.  Quite easy to do.  Or we can try the email route Smiley

Another way is to use this:
www.yousendit.com

It allows you to upload a file that you want distributed, then you email the link it gives you to whoever you want to receive it.
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« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2005, 01:45:05 PM +0100 »

Sorry if this turns into a pain Paul but I'd quite like a copy of your replay too if poss.

We need to get some kind of UKGTR BitTorrent system going for these big files flying around Smiley
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« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2005, 02:23:09 PM +0100 »

Like others here, I also had game problems which affected my race somewhat. I had terrible frame rate problems so my qual lap was slower than normal, leaving me in 5th - not sure I would have been on the front row though. The race started well, as I managed to get past Mike as he rear-ended Bernie. Then it all went badly wrong, as I got a big freeze on the way out of 180, which lost me a place or 2, and then several more stutters which took me off into the gravel at Chateau D'eau. I was starting to think about quitting when the stuttering stopped and I rejoined in about 11th. The frame rate was still awful tho, and following cars though corners was much harder than normal. I gradually picked up a few places as drivers went off, and then had a good little battle with Popa until we both ran wide at Estoril, Popa more so, and I was past. Several more laps and I was up to 4th and then 3rd behind Tom, who eventually half spun at 180, leaving me in 2nd. Bernie was long gone by then so I was just trying to get to the end, but the frame rate problem finally caught up with me as I messed up Chateau D'Eau and let Tom back in front. Mike had a late dive down the inside into Lycee but I could tell it was ambitious and watched him sail past into the gravel. Then spent a few laps catching Tom, and on the last lap I was right on his tail into the final chicane. Gave it a bootfull in the vain hope of getting past, but spun, so knowing the next car would be along soon I used a trick I heard about from a 968 race driver who did much the same - I whacked it in reverse and got over the line that way! I was so relieved to get away with this that I totally missed the fact that it wasn't the last lap after all! Looking at the timings I was down as a DNF - doh! While I can blame myself for being stupid, on reflection I had my hands full just controlling the car at what seemed like 10fps, so I don't feel too bad about it now. May have to look into some hardware tho if this continues.

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« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2005, 03:50:53 PM +0100 »

No probs at all. Here it is:

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0SRSHCXLU7OYR0YND69VK21TQS
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« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2005, 04:59:34 PM +0100 »

got it!! thats excellent  Grin
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« Reply #51 on: July 20, 2005, 05:32:16 PM +0100 »

Just pulling it down now - Cheers Paul! Grin
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« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2005, 10:12:44 AM +0100 »

I'm a bit confused....  Huh

The results (on the front page) are showing that I finished 6th, however, I'm pretty sure that I was 7th over the line?

I notice that PaulW thought he was 4th (earlier in the thread) and now he's moved up to 3rd in the results.

Is this another GTR bug or did something happen to one of the top 3?

Pops.
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« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2005, 01:33:47 PM +0100 »

The results (on the front page) are showing that I finished 6th, however, I'm pretty sure that I was 7th over the line?
I notice that PaulW thought he was 4th (earlier in the thread) and now he's moved up to 3rd in the results.
Is this another GTR bug or did something happen to one of the top 3?

The results appear correct compared to the export but I did see some "wierdness" in the Race export file, with some drivers listed twice. First time I've seen that particular problem with the export. Would somebody like to volunteer to check the replay to see what the real finishing order was?
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« Reply #54 on: July 21, 2005, 02:58:07 PM +0100 »

Looked at the server replay, Truetom was 2nd Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: July 21, 2005, 03:23:57 PM +0100 »

Dammit, have I diddled myself out of a place?  Wink

Maybe I'll get some bonus points for honesty!  Grin
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« Reply #56 on: July 21, 2005, 04:12:12 PM +0100 »

Looked at the server replay, Truetom was 2nd Smiley

Yep, as I suspected the race export has some bogus entries. Sad Dammit, every time I think I've got a handle on the bugs in GTR another one wil pop out of the woodwork to make my life harder. Angry
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« Reply #57 on: July 21, 2005, 04:43:24 PM +0100 »

Okay, sorted that out. I wonder - did truetom and Paul Adams leave the race shortly after crossing the line or something? Or is GTR just rubbish? Roll Eyes

I've put a sanity check in the results importer now to try and prevent this in the future. Many thanks to Popabawa for pointing the error out.
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« Reply #58 on: July 21, 2005, 06:13:24 PM +0100 »

Many thanks to Popabawa for pointing the error out.
Yeah, thanks a bundle Pops Wink  Grin

Nah, I can confirm I was 4th. Some people left I think Dave. How about we grab a screenshot as the last guy crosses the line for reference?
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« Reply #59 on: July 21, 2005, 06:25:44 PM +0100 »

How about we grab a screenshot as the last guy crosses the line for reference?

Now that I know about this particular problem it won't recur anyway - do we know if the screenshot would actually be correct anyway if, say, the winner disconnected before  other drivers had finished? I suspect not... Undecided
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