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Round 6 of the Porsche Cup series:-

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Practice: 19:15 (60 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 17 Laps  (approx 30 mins)

Cars allowed:
Porsche Cup Car 2017

Supercup skin pack
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/911-gt3-supercup-2016-skin-pack.13140/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/911-gt3-supercup-2016-skin-pack.13140/)

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Track: Imola GP

Time of Day Setting: 16:30
Weather: Mid Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Notes:
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(3) Please use the Driver Details page to ensure that the league management software has your correct name

Onboard lap with extra slice of kerb on the side  ;D
https://youtu.be/S818H7cVZN0 (https://youtu.be/S818H7cVZN0)

https://youtu.be/S818H7cVZN0

Got some early laps in last night, must say this (and other) tracks look stunning since Kunos enhanced them  8) with the evening lighting you can almost smell the Italian coffee  :) I have walked this track for real and you feel like you are in a royal park, amazing place and would love to track my own car around it :wub:

I expect a few spinners on this round, the kerbs really like to unsettle these cars yet you have to attack them aggressively for better times. Looking forward to this one.

the reason why i hate imola.. you can lose so much time when not attacking the curbs, but you always risk losing control :/

i might not make this race anyways, unfortunately... :(

+1. I don't like to drive Imola in simracing races . Looks like something monkey's job in case of fast cars  :D
Prefer to drive here for fun hotlap only. But.. Celendar.

One man's kerb is another man's pretty stripey thing  ::)
I love Imola, always have, perhaps because I am not going as fast  ;D
Did a few laps, and these Porkas are very friendly compared to other sims  version of them
I usually hate cars with a cement mixer in the back, but these are very good fun  :thumbup1:

Maikel, where is yours 1.45.xxx ?  ;D

Always been a fan of Imola - will hopefully manage some practice tomorrow, although have the start of the 1967 50th aniversary championship on GPL to prepare for ready for Sunday...

Challenge accepted.  8)

I like racing at Imola in modern race cars, it's terrible in oldtimers though imo.

I'll see  if I can get some time in tomorrow or the day after.

Count me in if you ever go and I'll bring my plastic golf buggy (Lotus Elise) hehe

Personally I love Imola, it's such a great mix of fast straights and slow technical corners. I do prefer the original layout though.

Challenge completed  8)

Though not advisable for a race pace, was quite tricky getting a fast lap done here

Nice pace  :o swine  :laugh: someone let his tyres down on the grid  ;D

He doesn't need help from outside, he will have his reverse gear selected or wheel turned the wrong way  ;)

Good lap time, Maikel!
But unfortunately your lap is not contain telemetry screen. Can you improve your lap and display telemetry screen to learn us? ) Thanks  :)

I blame my pitcrew for that.
They probably didn't like that I fired them all a few seasons back  ;D


Don't know why it doesn't show any telemetry though  ???

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Done that a few times myself, so better not laugh too much.  :wetfish:

Hi Guys, love the track and go pretty well around here, still can't get Acque Minerali right after all these years since my Race 07 days. >:(

You looked to be doing mighty fine Thomas  ;)  :o Maikel has competition  :)

I'm stuck in late 47's no matter what setup I use or attack angles I try - have hit a proverbial pace wall  :(

Ps...Damage increased to 70%  :devil: I realise this means I will get spat into a wall and suffer now  ;D

Practice Server is now running 70% damage

Thanks Pete  :)

i havent done any laps yet as i wont make it to the race anyways but i reckon you may be too gentle on the curbs.
For instance you can gain a hell of a lot of time in T1 by placing your left tyres just between the three curbstones. You cut a lot of the corner like that while still staying within the white lines and can carry way more speed through the corner.

Don't think that's it in my case as I've been monstoring those kerbs at t1. I did a 1:47? in my first few laps and now I've pounded around for 30+ more without improving  :'(

Wondered if anything to gain from raising the ride height to help with those bastich chicane kerbs at top of the hill (variante Alta). I also lose time at Tosa depending on where i brake/turn in.

I'll be on tonight to test out the new update coming. See if the Porsce Cup feels any different.

Finally they added the ideal pressure in the tyre app.

There are quite a few spots were its easy to lose alot of time here though  ;)

Server has been updated, shout if you see any problems.

Very efficient Pete   :euro:

Good point about the car feeling different, could be a shock with changes this late before race day  :o

The car definitely felt abit different.

Still managed to get within 2/100 of a sec of my PB. Though I noticed I was losing quite alot of time in the lower corners ( the ones where I had to use 2nd gear ) and gaining abit in the rest.
Found the default setup the best so far.

Bit of a pain them changing the car this close to our race but sure we can adapt to the new model. Biggest change is ARB range and tyres. I only had half hour but soon matched my times even though car feels different.

I'm stuffed then.
Spent tonight at Kyalami in a GPL monster instead of practising  :ninja:

Be kind on me guys!

why oh why had kunos changed this car?? it was perfect the way it was, no need to screw with it whatsoever -.-

havent driven the new thing yet but losing time in slower corners and gaining time in faster corners just already sounds like they broke the car.

My yesterdays 15 min test talking me that Porsche is more accurate now. Now it has more understeer as it should be in rear- balansed Porsches.
In 1.11 it was incorrect- too much oversteery tyres. Kunos said about it earlier. Now it is corrected.
PS Just now i observed tyre phisics files for cup car. A lot of parameters changed. Absolutely new tyre. More dull now  ;)
 

Tested in track. IMHO - the tyres is... not good for me. Dull. Need 2-3 laps to brings PSI to range. Driving behavier is worse for me. Dull tyres.. Driving in droping wheels.  Not a good surprise for me  :)

For me I went immediately 4 secs slower with the default setup. Struggling to keep on the track  :o
Setups are different, seems to be less numbers in the aero? Once I had given it some wing
and increased the front ARB I could drive it, but still a second or so off my pervious best
it "seems" looser to ? the rear is a lot less planted, and is more likely to spin on corner entry
or exit.

They said it was altered based on information supplied from Porsche about not running asymmetrical roll bars.

I need to try the new default setup a bit more as I was quicker with my own stiffer roll bar config. last night.
Bet pre race practise is busier than normal tonight  :laugh:

Just done a bunch of laps and I've noticed the car has changed as well. They are much harder now, less forgiving and you can't get away with as much as you used to. I actually thought the car was a bit easy before but now it's a lot more alive, more feeling and more fun. I actually prefer it. A lot more focus is needed and I think we may see a lot more mistakes as cars run wide, understeer, spin or just mess up corners all together.

I've also gone much quicker than before dropping from a .49 to a .47 with default setup :)

I need to try the default setup more seriously as people seem to like it.
I couldn't do a complete lap with it at first.

Did a few laps yesterday evening and didn't notice any big differences. Best lap was within a tenth of my PB, so performance wise the car is still on the same level.

Mark, IMO, we needs server side control 3 wheels out in Qualy and 4 wheels out in race. How to do it- i wrote earlier.  :)

Sounds good Baikel assuming you don't mean all 4 wheels are allowed off track ? Did you post it in the Hockenheim race thread or the Porsche cup series thread?

Yes Mark.
" So we can do it in future GP:
[SERVER]
bla bla bla
ALLOWED_TYRES_OUT=3

aaaand :
 [RACE]
NAME=Race
LAPS=68
ALLOWED_TYRES_OUT=4
WAIT_TIME=xxx
IS_OPEN=xxx
"
I'll repeat that it working good in 1.12 too .  In qualy we will have 3 wheels cutting control ( if more - the lap will be invalid)
In race we will have cutting control disabled ( 4 wheels out alowed) .   

No tyre blankets has become abit of a pain in the buttocks now though. Takes a good 2 laps of pushing to get the tyres up to pressure ( not temp, as the front stayed cool no matter what I did ). First corners on cold tyres is like driving on ice.

Also found that the car is abit more unstable under braking. Found the rear itching to the twist when braking. Rear tyres are less grippy in highspeed corners, but I found them more grippy on slow corner exits. Could go full throttle in 2nd gear out of the hairpin and, though the chicane still needs some caution, it's abit easier. However, in the slow hairpin, I did found the car to be bit less wanting to turn. I was losing about 2/10's around there ( that I won in the first few corners ).

Should be an interesting race  ;D

I would be happy to use the cutting options on the server control side (what do you think Pete?)

Yes I agree it takes a definite 3rd lap to get the tyres towards their working window now, possibly 4 laps. Fronts are always hard to get heat in a 911 as there is no weight over the front wheels. Tad more camber or front brake bias might help  :-\
It's tempting to go for tyre warmers but will see how it goes tonight. You will all just have to rein in the horses until you can get some heat into the tyres, especially on these kerbs  :o

3 to 4 laps to warm up hard tires sounds far more realistic to me - before you could give the car beans from about 2/3rds in with little risk.
That's not something I observe in modern race cars on enduro-tires...

About to have my first go in the new car, will see what I think of the changes  :)

I can add it before I start the server at 7:15. You sound like you'd like that to happen.

As for tyre warmers, it's the same for everyone, just be careful on those opening laps and be respectful of the cars around you. Sounding like a stuck record I'm not keen on changing things that have a potential large effect in the middle of a season.

Hi, not sure where to post this but a friend is currently trying to sign up and has tried for the past few days, but keeps receiving an error message for the forum.

The message he gets:

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He would like to race tonight if that's possible. His information is:

Name Oscar Pink
Steam GUID: 76561197993994091

Thanks

I like the new tires - My setup that I made at the weekend appears slower now but the car moves around more.
I've also noticed they fixed the ABS and auto-clutch dash lights which is actually proving helpful already  8)

Sorry Sam it's just too short notice as we have a full 24 in the entry list. I'm sure we can drop someone but it needs considered thought. We'll try for next week.

Just launching the server now, it'll be 17 laps based on the times in Stracker.

Many thanks, worked really well...not :-X :-X

Pretty disappointed in what happened. Clearly there was an issue with the server which is why everybody disconnected after each session. I qualified 4th and had trouble reconnecting to the server and when the game finally allowed me back in I was a lap down. Thought as it was your mistake it would have been nice to wait for everybody who was in the lobby to reconnect before starting the race.

Yes. BUT. All was correct with lines cutting.. But blackflagged penaltyes was on. Its not a my problem man..  Videos downloading.  >:(
Cut detection is a diffetent things here. IN AC we have a black flagged zones in tracks. Original AC Imola have many such zones. Its not turning off.  Just in 1.12 we have an option to change this penalty . But unfortunatelly it not was done.. Befor this we have to disable this in moded imola track and using it in leagues. But UKAC have the orig content.. With these f*** zones on.
Strange disconnects after the session was big surprize for me too. I have tested 1.12 server i my lan and all was ok.. May be UKAC server is not turned good for 1.12. I don't know guys.
And in final i got server disconnect when i was 4th... Second time in this champ.. I am in sorrow ..  :) I have dont remember these disconnects last 2 years..

did you get blackflagged nfsw?

Soo...when I jokingly said 'now ive increased damage I bet I am first one into the wall'  I didn't mean I wanted someone to put me into it before T1  ::)

That was not a pretty sight tonight gents  :( Probably the worst racing I have seen in a while, multiple contacts, cars flying off left right and centre, guys almost sitting on racing lines/apex entries (keep going! don't bloody stop in the track!!  >:( )  I was knocked off 3 times and had to take avoiding action to miss cars numerous times. Not a good advert for our league. (Oscar if you are reading its not this bad normally!)

Apologies to anyone who got caught out at race start after the mass disco. I wanted to delay the start but don't have control over that side of it.

I'll put it down to the perfect storm of new car model, new tyres and the server crashing between each session (We need to test that sharpish in case its something we had wrong) plus lethal kerbs, as all combined to destroy our focus, though some clearly had not done a lap before this eve and caused chaos.

In the end I had some great racing with Spanner and FMG but definitely a race to forget.  :(

Well done Maikel and podium for rising above the storm  :)

Mark, please make sure you raise incident reports for anything that needs investigating to educate and penalize (where necessary).

Hi Guys, more than happy to get second this eve as I didn't feel comfortable in the car at all after the update. What little setup I managed to do before the was wiped out with getting disconnected. All on my own again as Maikel was on fire. Just keep on track and get to the finish.

Yeah Mark,
got that "slow down for five seconds or drive slower than 35 km/h" penatly twice during the race. Once for avoiding someone at Acque Minerali and once for going wide at the second chicane.

Better tell Mark everything he needs to know BEFORE the race and not just the half truth next time, Baikal

Well, I did say we would get lots of incidents :) I'm not crazy fast but I am consistant but I was spinning and running wide a lot earlier in testing which is not my usual style. I just think the cars are now more realistic and need more focus and patience. It's how it should be, it shouldn't be as easy as it was before the update. Just going to take a but of adjustment to get used to.

Anyway, the race. Qualified a lovely 5the or so and made a great start and found myself in 3rd. Felt comfortable and ran about half the race in this position. However, I ran wide at Aqua Minerale and rather than come straight back on the track with a slightly blinded view, I thought I would play it safe and run around the outside to blend back in on the run up the hill. However the stupid cut track detection thought I was cutting the track and slowed me down. This then cost me two places :( Why oh why are we running this stupid cut track system. Nobody here is cheating and it's so arcade and pointless. Felt like I was playing a Codemaster game :( Anyway, carried on and finally came home a decent 5th so a good result in the end despite the arcade cut track detection rubbish.

Didn't notice the rest was having so many issues, though watching the replay I can see why. I thought the penalty system only worked on quali and was just off during the race. Saw a few slowing down dramatically so that default penalty system seems to be in ( which is complete rubbish for a race.... )

And the weird disco's. Don't know if it's just this server or an a bug in the new wait time between session stuff...  ???


Luckily the car felt great   8)   Found it actually easier to keep consistent.

Oh well, hopefully everything goes allright next week at VIR.  ;D
Interested to see how the new car handles around that track.

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. So ruins the racing and fun factor. Highly recommend it's turned off for the race.

Its a question to server admin. I am a new here and i can think that admins in familiar with corsa. Original AC content have many such things..
There is two way- use moded AC tracks or ( sinse 1.12) we can change the way of timed penaltyes. Just read a server docs.  :)
I know- Picnic is a good man and will did it. It's easy. :)
 

And a lesson why not to change things during a season :P.

You are not right here. My cut detection future is NOT depends in blackflagged penalties in race. My future was effect in prac and qualy ( to control 3 wheels out) . Understand now?  :) And its worked properly here.  :)
Good new futures in game must to be implemented. 1.12 new BF future and my tweak is such thing. ) BUT.. All old pilots knows this Imola orig track issues.
BTW after my total server disconnect i connected again in race and rechecked that all it fine here. Here is this vid guys)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-0ScOKNWPU

That would be me - well, I say that would be me but I was already beside you and on the edge of the grass so couldn't move over any further when your car suddenly bonked me from the left hand side, sorry.
I rejoined you at the back anyway after spinning to avoid running into NSFW about 4 corners later (Sorry to Mark E, I honestly thought I was rejoining at the back of the pack as couldn't see anyone when the dust settled. First I knew you were behind me it was already too late and I was sat on the apex (I run real mirrors only and very minimal apps so just didn't see you approaching while I was in the process of turning the right way)).

I had that stupid track cut thing at Aqua Minarale several times too, never had it before when racing here and it ruined my race - every time I triggered it I had messed up the previous turn and been spat out, that would already have cost me half a second or more anyway.
To then be forced to give away another 2 or 3 spots annoyed me to the point I very nearly quit in disgust.

Luckily the updates to the car made it such a joy to drive that I hung in there and just drove the thing to death. Think I managed 6th or 7th after that which was nice considering.
I also managed several nice battles and exchanges with various drivers throughout which helped make up for it.  :)

I did like the fact we were able to do a lap after the end of the race. Driving by the crowds, throwing hats to the fans, waving my flag around and then getting it back into the pits. Adds to the realism  ;D

lol took me half a lap to realise the race had finished and I wasn't on the last lap of the race. Think FMG thought same as he swerved dramatically around a slowing Linus at T1  :laugh:

Yes sadly I am going to administer myself one of these  :wetfish: we shouldn't have messed with cut control just before a race, especially Imola! Sorry I didn't know it would mean the stupid slow down penalty would apply. No wonder I saw several cars going ridiculously slow in fast corners which caused all sorts of mayhem. Dumb mistake but I thought the way Baikal explained it was that it only eliminated cut laps in qually but nothing in the race.  :-\

eheh FMG, I bumped your left? news to me, I suddenly got a whack that sent me into the left hand Armco. I just yanked my steering enough to make it a glancing blow rather than head first impact.  :o I guess the track narrows back towards the left leaving you nowhere to go? Will watch the replay when someone uploads it.

Took me half the race to really get into my stride with the car, but thought the car felt pretty much the same as the last round. The kerbs at Imola are tricky, and there are green-crete sections which are very slippery, this is not a change in the car, just that the track presents different challenges. If anything the car was more slippery on cold tyres, but didn't real feel much difference myself once warmed up.

I didn't get any track cut penalties, but then I don't cut the track. ;) :P  :angel: A mistake was made with the server administration, but the world has not ended, your lives have not been ruined. :-*

Yes we all got disco'd, yes we all had to try and rejoin quickly. Was it good? No? Was it on purpose? No? I don't believe in the time available, anyone could have done anything to "wait" for others. Shit happens. It's just a game. This place is run by volunteers and funded by the few who are kind enough to donate towards the cost of running the server, so chill out men, people are doing their best!

P.S. Maybe it would be good to increase the time between qually and the race by another minute in case this happens again (and it would help those of us with a weak bladder, to get the extra pee break in!  ;D)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpEHBVPl6I&feature=youtu.be
Vivat la  podium guys !  :-*
My race onboard.
Mark i am sorry for start . I win it and goes right after Michael Boylan and we begun to turn left side simultaneously. I think befor that hi will go to the right side.So,by my instinct i choice the save distance to him before soon first turn hard braking. You had good  reaction but it not saved your orientation to stay in center  :'(
So sorry that i lost my podium to NFSW55 ))) I tryed but he was faster. Sorry for contact NFS . I think it was race incident..or?   :) But why are you stopped for penalty in Alta schicane till 40 km\h? I got penalty behind you mate and lost positions..
 And.. my disconnect in 14st lap.. so sorry for me.
Guys- i like to drive races with UKAC . All guys is in adequate in main simracing things! See you are all in VIR! I tryed this track and it's amasing in cupcar! Believe me!  ;D

Hehe I was coming out of the zone and lapping up the applause from the masses :)

Rather than split this part of the conversation between 2 topics I'll copy this here


Our settings were


Sadly I didn't spot the new disable gas option so it was at default. Note that we had IO_OPEN=0 which in theory should have stopped us all re-joining! I reported this setting seemed to have little effort on the AC forum some while ago but was told I was wrong.

Personally I hate having to wait the 90 secs for the race to start but if we need to extend that time then so be it.

As for the disconnects I have no idea why that happened, did anyone change sessions during the previous practice days without issue? Looking at the log file AC produces the mass event was just that. Lots of


followed by


I edited out the IP addresses. I assume there hasn't been a minor update, since the big release on Tuesday, that I've missed has there?

No there were no further updates as far as I know and also there is no shouting about loss of connections on the Kunos site since the big update so must be something our end.  :-\

The AC log parser seems a little confused as it says NO TIME for several of us in Q although lists times. Means wrong starting grid slots in the graph too.

Thanks Pete for post.
But strange- i am not see ALLOWED_TYRES_OUT=4  in RACE section how we had (?)  desigion to use this undocumented future before GP, but this future was worked fine. ( see my "after server disconnect and rejoing to race" vid.)
Other thing still making me bad- after Q sessions massive pilots disconnect. IMHO- this is more important issue was.
60 or 90 seconds timeout- to me have no differencies.
BTW I am is not servers admin in any leagues. But very experienced ( 3000 hours) AC user. Making Porsche phisics mode 2 years ago, servers configs, reversed grids, building my own AC Apps and so on, reading AC forum. Have my own local server configured and tested for my own testing and in results of know how it works. It works sometimes strange ways and custom strings of code must be spot on and tested. I know it.

But i am not so familiar with remote server ( paid)  management. May be the problem was in this side.
This string IMO is key of problem: read tcp xx.xx.xxx.xx:9457->xxx.xx.xxx.xx:52720: wsarecv: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.
 May be IPs or i\o ports or strange AC bug. You can communicate with remote server configs and futures with ALOOG , or  rack servers paid admins for help.
All best is in the future!  :)      

Good point, I copied the above from my local PC, I changed the server file manually as I launched the server last night. I need to test to see if AC Manager overwrites that line or if it leaves it in place to ensure it's there for every race.

We have our own dedicated server with full remote desktop and we run several other racing games on it. Thus it's all our own problem. I don't know what ALOOG is, can you enlighten me?

http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?members/bigbawmcgraw.6234/
ALOOG serverman. ALOOG servers is popular fun AC servers.
About server config creating- Yes ! Admins prefer to edit files manually ( it's easy and useful way). If you use AC servermanager program- it will overwrite all sections as i practical tested years ago )
But i know a secret ( important thing!) After each server side Kunos official updates it is better to create basic config files USING ACservermanager program. It will brings new options and changed structure will work correctly ( and editable manually for nessesary futures)
Sorry for my bad english )

Anyone got a replay link so I can watch 'when cars go mad' tonight?  ;D

Don't know about anyone else but I am already chomping at the bit to race the next round, this series is addictive and has produced some of the best online racing I've ever had  8)
Shame we have had a few dropouts to lower grid numbers around 17 cars in recent rounds otherwise I would have pushed recruiting a bit more. Guess it's harder to attract new racers so far into a regular series but we had a few join along the way. :)

I had been enjoying these cars very much, but although the changes seem trivial to some
it made a big difference to me. I had done quite a lot of practice, and had a setup that, though probabably slow
worked for me. I had to so a quick setup last night, so I increased front ARb one notch, and increased
the wing one notch, and it seemed ok, Come the race though, and was not enjoying it at all
Had not been aware of the 4 laps to warm the tyres up thing, one lap should be enough to get
even hard tyres up to close to working temp, if not perfect, these things now slide around
like on ice for the 1st lap. I think that probably contributed to the mess.

I kept falling off under race pressure, and eventually got fed up with it and quit.
Will need to create an even easier to drive setup for any future races.

Was a setup created pre-patch Matt? They might not help as it will be using values for setting that may not be valid any more, i.e the ARB settings have changed to a reduced range in values.

Strange I've found the old car to be too loose and easy to lose traction yet last night the car felt so planted that where I was struggling for traction (top chicane and final two corners) I had no issues at all. Ended up dropping the wing by 1 and increasing the rear ARB by 1, that was it. It took only half a lap before I could attack the corners a bit, not the 1-3 laps like previous.

Saying that I did end up spinning on my own I think in the first corner on the first lap! But actually really enjoyed and gave me back some confidence that i can drive and race with people! Good fun running with FMG and MarkJ but with a few laps to go I seem go through a phase of forgetting how to drive! and ended up dropping back a bit too far.

No problem FMG that was some rejoin!

I guess it was that slowdown penalty that caught a few out as well as you come across people almost stationary on the track!

I disagree Matt, you never get slicks up to heat in one lap unless you gave them serious abuse (and risk delaminating them). I have been lucky enough to be in pork on slicks at Spa and the guy didn't risk giving it the beans until after two long laps. Same with my track tyres on my own 911, understeer and sliding until they get heat and become stickier after about 2 laps.

I found the new car a bit edgier than before, getting a few oversteer moments in t1 chicane even though I kept wing at 8  :o

Are the track conditions different on the practice server to the race server?

If I practice offline I easily get the tyres warm but on the server I barely get out of the blue without pushing really hard and even then they are barely green with one of the front tyres always blue (depending on whether the circuit is anti-clockwise or clockwise).

Well, all that drama. And, I only have myself to blame for my troubles.

Alright, the disco between sessions did put me in a panic, but it was me that just got in the car, with 10 less litres than needed... Pressed the escape key, although the option to return to pit was there, nothing happened when I clicked it. So I had two options, leave the server hoping to get a second chance to rejoin or start with low fuel.
Choosing the latter, I got a flier, position/s off the start, then again as people fell or were pushed off. Slowed in Rivazza, as I was being passed, I needed a clear run into the pit anyhoo. Pitted and every time I got the car in position, the menu would appear for a micro (may have been a nano) second and disappeared again.
Frustrated, I hit the eject button. Sure I was miffed but in the end, it was nothing to do with server settings.

Grats to Maikel, Thomas, nfsw and all who had a clue... unlike myself... lol.

I was using the default setup, didn't change a thing apart from fuel. I think I even left the wing at 6 and it was good enough for 5th. None of my previous setups felt good whereas the default did. Might work for you as well.

Agree with this also. Running track tyres on my real life cars, it takes a few laps to get heat in them before being able to attack. Slicks are worse and Ive been told that unless you get heat in them, its like driving on ice. Same for brakes. My track car has the same brakes that endurance cars run and the same as you get on the Ferrari F50 but with track pads and until you get heat in them they just don't want to work.

For me, the cold tyres for a few laps is totally natural and actually great fun as it adds an elements of car management into the equation.

You could like, you know, save the replay yourself?  :P

I looked at the start abit but couldn't find any major offences. 2 cars spun in T1 probably because of the cold tyres. Before that you, Alexy and fmg were going three wide. After the pitexit the track narrows down quite bit and swerves to the left. And for you MJ, wo were the penanutbutter and jelly in a peanutbutter and jelly sandwich, it meant that there just wasn't any room left as fmg was just following the road  ;D
A call of bad luck ( you shouldn't have jinxed it before the race  8) )

As for the next rounds, can't we just turn off the penalties? Don't think anyone is going to deliberately cut corners to gain time. Else the PLP app works alot better then the default penalty system.

Another thing; if you forgot to save your setup or it disconnected, when selecting a track in the setup tab, at the top there is one called generic. In it is 1 setup named last, which as you probably guessed, is your last used setup !for this car ( wether you saved it or not )


Sharks don't pee  8)

To be honest it generally takes a good lap of serious sliding about even on my road tires before I start to get grip on track. Trouble is they're generally too hot after I've done another one - god knows they'll cope when I get the car back next week with an extra hundred ponies ;D
I have also driven some fairly epic powered stuff on Semi-slicks and would agree you don't want to be trying too hard in the first lap or 2.

Technically that's true but they do convert urine to urea; a toxic compound which is really converted ammonia. Urea is absorbed in the flesh of the shark and expelled through the skin, so if you rub doors with a shark car you are basically wiping wee onto your own car. STAY CLEAR, you have been warned.

I once stroked a Shark, I can't wash my right hand enough now... lol.