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Title: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: miner2049er on January 08, 2011, 03:37:38 PM +0000
UKGPL Season 20 Novices Trophy (1965 Mod) Race 6 January 11th

Round 6 of the Novices Trophy and once again the Amateurs cannot face the mighty challenge that the Novices seem so unafraid of. This is the first race of the New Year and the end of the Winter break, so what finer place to visit than the principality of San Marino at the Imola circuit?

I know I know, but we're here now.

Construction began in 1950 and the circuit was first used for Formula One in April 1963. This non-championship event was won by Jim Clark for Lotus.

Please be sure to take care on Lap 1 especially under braking for Tosa and Rivazza as Lap 1 incidents accrue an extra penalty place.

You can download the track here:
http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=485

Please see the Novices registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8416.0

FULL TIME
DRIVER 
  CHASSIS 
Vosblod
Cooper
NHance
BT11
Miner2049er
Cooper
Il_Lupo
Ferrari
Billy NoBrakes
BT11
HappyAl
Ferrari
Gilles27
BT7
Burtoner
3
Nigel Smith
Honda
Ronnie Peterson
Lotus
Blito
Ferrari
Mark65
1
Artiglietti
Cooper
BadBlood
Honda
RogUK
Cooper
Norbert
Ferrari
Maddog
Cooper

RESERVE
DRIVER 
  CHASSIS 
Karliss
Honda
Adamg67
BT11
Maestro
Cooper

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents will be moderated.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL5
IP address = ping myjamesonline.net
Race date = 11-01-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Imola (imola)
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 35 minutes
Race length = 20 laps
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used.
http://bit.ly/d8dECl

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=279;theme=6)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 08, 2011, 04:12:59 PM +0000
Round 6 of the Novices Trophy and once again the Amateurs cannot face the mighty challenge that the Novices seem so unafraid of.

What do you mean by that?  ???


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: miner2049er on January 08, 2011, 09:06:36 PM +0000
Round 6 of the Novices Trophy and once again the Amateurs cannot face the mighty challenge that the Novices seem so unafraid of.

What do you mean by that?  ???[/quote]

Haha! Every time the Novices and Amateurs use a different circuit I post something like that. The Amateurs are too scared of the difficult circuits that the Novices use so they pick easy ones like the Nurburgring instead.

Chickens.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 08, 2011, 09:18:49 PM +0000
Haha i haven't noticed. I hope the Novices are going to switch to the easier AM tracks next season. ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: blito on January 09, 2011, 11:14:42 AM +0000
probably not - we novices prefer RACE tracks to RACE on, rather than leisurely drives through  picturesque scenery. I mean, what would be the point of trying to race at Nurby when the whole field gathers at flugplatz for a picnic every other lap?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 09, 2011, 02:27:38 PM +0000
I mean, what would be the point of trying to race at Nurby when the whole field gathers at flugplatz for a picnic every other lap?

Unless it doesn't. ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: blito on January 09, 2011, 02:28:58 PM +0000
NOT stopping at flugplatz for a picnic? No, now come on H, that wouldnt be normal, would it....


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: maddog on January 09, 2011, 06:54:07 PM +0000
I was wondering why that green banking is so bumpy! ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: BadBlood on January 10, 2011, 09:51:03 AM +0000
Just done a few practice laps and felt I had it nicely sorted - ok I am going to be a bit slower than the other guys I expect that. Happy with my low 1:48's until I check the lap record. HOLY COW!!!

Back to practice....


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: BadBlood on January 11, 2011, 07:17:22 PM +0000
Yay - got to 1:45 dead - now I just have to reproduce it in the race...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: blito on January 11, 2011, 10:12:00 PM +0000
i hate this bloody game...
spun the car FOUR times by putting it into neutral!
after my last spin i did a bad rejoin and took out nigel.. sorry m8
might have to give this a rest for a while as that was just 100% fustration!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: BadBlood on January 11, 2011, 11:37:22 PM +0000
Qualification was good and blito was just 0.4 ahead of me. I knew I had more because I had done a 1:44 in practice. Pushed and got a 1:44.15 to get off last place. Really pleased.

Tyres were cooking though so I tweaked the camber of the offside front to try and cool it a little. Felt OK so went for it in the race. BIG mistake - really evil handling round Piratella although it was more friendly round Rivazza and Tosa.

Started well and gained a few places then big crash in front and in trying to avoid it I took out Vos - sorry Tim. I was Ok somehow and was in fourth! Got the line slightly wrong at Piratella and touched the grass. Despite my best efforts the back end went round and I watched as five went by. Frustrating.

Held Ronnie off for a lap (fun) and then had Vos chasing and clearly quicker but I thought I might hold him off for a while but went too deep into Acqua and ended up on the grass but under control. Mistake two, five places lost. Grrr. Next time round same thing at Piratella - bump sent me right. Odd because that just never happened in practice, so after that v cautious which cost me bundles of time. The others reeled me in and I was soon last - hoped to stay unlapped for longer but made a couple of mistakes at Rivazza that cost me ten seconds and meant I was lapped on lap nine. Disappointing.

Staedy after that and made sure I stayed out of the way of the leaders. First time that I didn't have to shift-R, not everyone who finished lapped me and I wasn't last in qualifying and I am still disappointed! I think I may be improving at last. Did practice hard for this one and it showed I think.  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: vosblod on January 12, 2011, 12:14:17 AM +0000
Started well and gained a few places then big crash in front and in trying to avoid it I took out Vos - sorry Tim.
No worries if you did not your fault, I got past a couple at the start and hoped to settle in then carnage ahead.
I might be guilty of a bad rejoin - is that places or time based on who suffered ;) - I waited, saw the track was clear except for someone on the grass and turned it round. Me and Mr Green came together - sorry didn't realise you were rejoining, no replay saved so not sure who it was.

Did a few laps but I'd lost my mojo after the start carnage.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: Ross Neilson on January 12, 2011, 09:22:47 AM +0000
Qualified 5th which was about what I expected. Slow off the line but that gave me a better run through the initial crash, however my luck ran out after that as I was hit on the left by a Ferrari. After my reset I was dead last and I took a stop and go just in case my crash was my fault (as I did move left slightly before the impact). This left me well back so it was a case of trying to lap quickly and consistently and hope the pack came back to me. Ended up 8th which is my worst result for ages, however I was pleased with my driving overall.

Well done to Mike for the win and to the other podium finishers. Special mention for BadBlood who is making some solid progress - well done Paul.

See you all at Kyalami in two weeks.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: BadBlood on January 12, 2011, 09:37:44 AM +0000
Cheers Ross. That is nice of you to say.

No worries if you did not your fault

Not sure Mike will see it like that but I can always appeal to the Chief Mod - who is that btw?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: maddog on January 12, 2011, 01:23:02 PM +0000
Ah, to be in sunny Italy again!  I somehow thought this was going to be a fast race, and I was right!  

Practice started with a couple of semi-sensible runs, which saw me nestled nicely in-between two fellow Cooperites.  Although, come to think of it, I did have a small spot of bother, over a spot of petrol.  Car started to misfire approaching the start line.  "Oh dear, out of fuel again . . . eek!!" Managed to eek, and limp an entire lap in extreme economy mode - had to freewheel the downhillards. :angel:

So, with oiled plugs replaced, I retook the track . . . though it tried to stay ahead.  Only now, I'd fitted my top secret, hyper-turbocharged, self exploding, wonder setup - it was Dynamite, I tell you!  Set off on a warm up lap and, "Zap!" -  was suddenly back in Winter, 2011 mode, where grumbling time vigorously commenced!  Internet dead!  I know my driving can be precarious, but if I've scared off my provider, I'll need to find another one a bit braver!  

I'm moving house soon, and hoping not to dis intigrate so readily thereafter.  Hope things weren't too bumpy for the rest of you, and the Coops. managed to maintain some dignity, amongst the fray.  If not, you might suggest the opposition try, a hyper-turbocharged, self exploding, wonder setup, sometime? ???  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: miner2049er on January 12, 2011, 01:54:41 PM +0000
Qually went OK eventually after spending too long trying to use people for a tow and lost time behind them in the turns, but my best lap using Ronnie was spoiled when I hit the gas too quickly out of Revazza and the rear wheels wanted to see what was going on up front. Managed a solo effort in the end that was good enough for 4th on my favourite side of the grid.

The starts are generally easier when the other side of the grid explodes as it did here and I followed AA up to Tosa in 2nd and was quite content to follow him and his tow as we pulled away from the carnage behind. I sat there for a few laps until I emerged from Revazza and caught a faint whiff of oil followed by some loose engine parts, and not long afterwards a dying Cooper which put me in the lead and after AA's reset about 15 seconds in front. I was looking forward to the chase as he tried to pull back a second a lap every lap but it was NHance who took up the chase and I could manage the gap which stayed around 20-22 seconds as I brought it home without too much trouble.

As the report says, I wasn't the fastest here but I was the most consistent.

Only had 1 car to lap which gave me an interesting sideways moment while I tried to decide where Paul was going to rejoin as he found a new line through Revazza, over Revazza and at one point almost under Revazza, but I kept it facing the right way as I did a couple other times where I out braked myself just for shits and giggles.

Nice to have my first win in a while, and made even nicer by the fact my title rivals all had a bad day out.

On to Kyalami next, the scene of my first win. Oh those heady halcyon days..................................


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: Artiglietti on January 12, 2011, 02:50:06 PM +0000
Well, what can I say, this one goes into the 'disaster' drawer for the season.

Spent the few first laps trading tenths with Mike, who was stubbornly clinging to my tail and somehow going around at his qually pace with 20 laps+ of fuel on board. Must be the pasta..

Then, my engine let go, great! Swallowed the frustration quickly to have a decent inlap for my stop and go. On the S/F straight it started to dawn to me that I didnt really know where that pit entry was, all those stripey bits of armco seemed the same to me, until oops! I missed it! No wait, I only HALF missed it!

Now, I do think GPL antics have often an hilarious element to them, but please do watch Artigliettis end of lap 6 for the clown manoeuvre of the season, from TV1 especially it provides for a nice refreshing laugh.

So, now I had 2 stop and go to do, and with my focus completely gone thought well to hit the armco at Tosa and bend my rear suspension. I must say, after some laps of getting use to it, that provided a nicely safe understeery machine for the rest of the race. Serious, no kidding.

And then I stopped, went, some more mistakes, some positions picked up through other people's mistakes, limped home in 6th. So much for all that practice. Dont you guys hate this game at times.

Grats to the winner and podium. Two worse races for the underpowered, two cooper wins, and a solid amount of guys in contention for the final prize. You never can tell can you?

See you all in Africa for the next one.   


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: NHance on January 12, 2011, 03:14:07 PM +0000
Pole positions eh. Like buses you wait forever for 1 & 2 turn up one after the other. Pity about the turn 1 incident as it had a chain reaction. Left me 7th at the end of lap 1 but the car felt a bit different but was steering straight so carried on. Hopefully I have mastered the new technique because I didn't blow an engine. As I caught others up they obliged by falling off in front of me until the eventual 2nd place if it stands. Well done Mike for a consistant drive & Fabio who I could not shake off. Art's qually was scary in a Cooper so I went out for a last attempt but messed it up.
Special mention to Bad Blood for a big improvement this race
This was the biggest race night of the season for Mountside as I hoped to get pole & push on from there & Clutch knows Brno & was hoping to do well. He lost a podium on the last corner to end up 4th. Well done. My pb at Kyalami is not fast enough to even think of pole. There are some high risk corners. I'll risk it in qually but Clutch reckons I'll risk it once too often in the race if the pressure is on & finish well down. We'll see

Norm H


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on January 12, 2011, 08:52:59 PM +0000
In past I didn't drive at Imola very much  (probably because the existing rivalry with Monza where I live): I remember an official race with GPFUN two or three years ago with the 67s with bad results.
I didn't have any setup from one of my favourite GPL driver too, so, for the first time, I tried one from H's setup pack and it wasn't bad at all.
I started the race from 10th place on grid, nearly 3" from the poleman, and I expected a midfield race but, after the big startcrash, I found myself on 4th place.
Getting used to H's setup resulted on the 2nd FL of the race (with such qulify time I would have started the race from 3rd place...) and on a podium with a the 3rd place very close to Norm (maybe, with one or two more laps...)
I really can't complain with my UKGPL year beginning...
See you all in Kyalami

Grats to everybody raced and to the race organization.

LONG LIVE GPL, LONG LIVE UKGPL!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: BadBlood on January 13, 2011, 03:50:47 PM +0000
Only had 1 car to lap which gave me an interesting sideways moment while I tried to decide where Paul was going to rejoin as he found a new line through Revazza, over Revazza and at one point almost under Revazza, but I kept it facing the right way as I did a couple other times where I out braked myself just for shits and giggles.

You noticed that then lol. I saw you coming in Prib and thought just want to keep him behind until ten laps have gone - all I have to do is not make a mistake at Revazza...

Took it cautiously and somehow it is harder to recover when you make a mistake trying to be cautious. Made the same mistake of being too cautious at the Glen on Sunday.

Anyway, sorry and well done on not making it an incident. I couldn't see quite where you were 'cos I was a bit busy so I just had to hope you had better control than me...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: miner2049er on January 13, 2011, 07:45:47 PM +0000
Ha! It wasn't a problem.

I find it easier to lap people when they're on the grass. It's just the momentum that takes them back on track that's a problem.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: BadBlood on January 13, 2011, 10:08:36 PM +0000
I was actually very good - I paused and checked prib before rejoining. Wouldn't want to drive in a way to attract penalties - even on lap 1 hint hint


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: miner2049er on January 21, 2011, 11:51:11 PM +0000
Race Mod Published.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: BadBlood on January 22, 2011, 01:35:56 AM +0000
Interesting mod for you Mike ;)

Releived not to have picked up a penalty for lap one and your description of my trip to see the Armco and then trying to share it with the nearest Fezza really made me laugh.

Bit disappointed though - Ronnie didn't get quite enough penalties to finish behind me and Blito had already finished behind me so apart from the Mod and the second placed driver - I am the only one who hasn't moved. Swiz.

Great fun though.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: Ronniepeterson on January 22, 2011, 09:40:32 AM +0000
Your sympathy for the lack of harshness of my penalty is noted Paul, cheers mate.

At the time of the start I genuinely thought I would clear Norm BUT I was wrong. As soon as someone pointed out the error of my ways in the chatroom afterwards I apologised and when I saw the replay myself and the ensuing carnage that followed I was horrified!

Sorry guys, it was an unnecessary rash  move on my part and on lap 1 as well. I know the rules and penalty seems more than fair to me. Thanks for the moderation Mike.

See you guys at Kyalami.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: blito on January 22, 2011, 10:11:24 AM +0000
to be honest i think i deserved far worse then just 3 places dropped!!! i drove the whole race in a shocking way, made many mistakes and just got more and more fustrated. Whilst i didnt deliberately collect Nigel my move there was probably the worst driving offence i have ever committed in UKGPL!
Although not as bad as the day in BYGPL that i started a race from pole...... in reverse gear!!!!!!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: miner2049er on January 22, 2011, 10:55:46 AM +0000
my move there was probably the worst driving offence i have ever committed in UKGPL!
Although not as bad as the day in BYGPL that i started a race from pole...... in reverse gear!!!!!!

Hmmm, I don't think we have a rule for that.

Baldrick, I have a cunning plan........


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Imola - Jan 11
Post by: BadBlood on January 22, 2011, 11:20:47 AM +0000
Your sympathy for the lack of harshness of my penalty is noted Paul, cheers mate.

Hehe

Well I DID say I was glad you didn't get a penalty at the Glen...

I always think you are fair and I enjoy racing with you for the brief seconds when you pass me! Oh for the heady days of Mosport when we were racing for position and I took you out for a two place penalty...

Bit of a blow for your championship hopes though.

See you in South Africa.