Title: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 09, 2021, 05:55:38 PM +0100 (https://www.classicdriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_slider/public/import/articlesv2/images/_uk/13848/img02.jpg)
Password: see above (#post_event_password) Practice: 19:45 BST (30 mins) Qual: 20:15 (15 mins) Race: 20:30 (30 mins /~25 Laps) Cars allowed: BMW M1 Gr4 Track: Imola Time of Day Setting: 13:00 Weather: Dry Start: Standing Tyre wear: Normal Fuel consumption: Normal Pit-stops: None required Server: Simracing.org.uk E7 Password: see above (#post_event_password) Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1631&theme=4) Example Setups: Notes: (1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage. (2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the rules about in-game chat messages. (3) You will need to install Race Room Racing Experience from Steam, and have the Euro and American Track Packs for this series (And maybe another non pack track occasionally) (4) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit. (5) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface) Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this. Title: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: frex on October 14, 2021, 10:47:43 AM +0100 Ok I have to ask.. ;D
Great to see a Group 4 race here, but any chance we could add in the Porsche 934 as well pretty please? I did some quick testing last night and the two cars are very well matched here, less than a tenth difference in laptime for me, although the BMW M1 is more stable and consistent. There's a lot more going on with the Porsche and it will be tricky to get it to the finish without incident, but it is a bit of a favourite of mine. Thoughts? Title: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Geoffers on October 14, 2021, 12:10:17 PM +0100 Ok I have to ask.. ;D Great to see a Group 4 race here, but any chance we could add in the Porsche 934 as well pretty please? I did some quick testing last night and the two cars are very well matched here, less than a tenth difference in laptime for me, although the BMW M1 is more stable and consistent. There's a lot more going on with the Porsche and it will be tricky to get it to the finish without incident, but it is a bit of a favourite of mine. Thoughts? :thumbup2: Title: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 14, 2021, 01:21:03 PM +0100 So. Yes I have been thinking along similar lines. Not just this event, but like the next one which is a GTR1 car
Riccardo's choice is good, the Saleen works well at Monza, but I tried the Ford, and it is similar times and would be an option for people who like choice. I need to do some more testing, I am slowly working through the events to see if any can be a group rather than a spec race I see no reason to not make it a Group 4 event. Only you seem to like the wayward pork, if you can win with it you deserve a pay rise ;D Title: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Geoffers on October 14, 2021, 03:23:57 PM +0100 Only you seem to like the wayward pork, if you can win with it you deserve a pay rise ;D And a medal. Title: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: frex on October 15, 2021, 09:48:48 AM +0100 Lol, thanks chaps for letting the Porsche in, looking forward to this one.
Title: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Riccardo Gengotti on October 17, 2021, 08:42:53 AM +0100 hello, adding other cars even if from the same group distorts the spirit of the championship that always wants the same cars for everyone. Thank you
Title: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 17, 2021, 11:20:49 AM +0100 If people always want the same cars I would agree with you Riccardo.
I have had a lot more complaints over the years from people wanting a choice than people wanting a spec race. So I think it is good to use a class where it makes sense Though I am happy to leave Thanks Matt Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: spanner on October 18, 2021, 10:07:42 AM +0100 I thought the point of this was to do single cars at each event.
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: frex on October 18, 2021, 11:26:53 AM +0100 Not entirely, Riccardo already has two non single-make races in his list (Touring Classics and DTM92) and Matt also mentioned that the list was initially provisional and asked for feedback. I am actually very happy with single-make races but the first event caught my eye as I (selflishly!) saw it as an opportunity to sneak the Porsche 934 into the mix. If this is not acceptable to the majority I am happy to revert back to M1 only and will take up my single-handed 934 campaign another time.. :)
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 18, 2021, 05:58:22 PM +0100 It would be funny if Frex won with Pork, which I can't drive in a straight line
never mind into corners. Seemed a reasonable request at the time as he has been putting that one in at every opportunity for years :angel: I am not planning on messing with Riccardo's plan any more, unless there is a huge uproar about an event. Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Geoffers on October 18, 2021, 07:07:46 PM +0100 It would be funny if Frex won with Pork Judging by his leaderboard time, that is quite likely, I can't get near it yet. Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: BiriBiri on October 19, 2021, 07:38:09 AM +0100 It would be funny if Frex won with Pork Judging by his leaderboard time, that is quite likely, I can't get near it yet. Indeed, for me the Pork is also undrivable. But Frex is 4/5sec faster at the leaderbords than the M1's :o :o :o Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 19, 2021, 08:21:46 AM +0100 Ok, not tested yet, but I won't be that fast anyway, but too many negatives
Sorry Frex, a fighting chance is ok, but if the car is that much faster with the right driver it won't fit So this will be an M1 only event. :( Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Geoffers on October 19, 2021, 10:27:33 AM +0100 Ok, not tested yet, but I won't be that fast anyway, but too many negatives Sorry Frex, a fighting chance is ok, but if the car is that much faster with the right driver it won't fit So this will be an M1 only event. :( Your decision Matt, but I did say 'yet', I am about 1s away from Frex with the M1 & hopefully a few more setup adjustments could reduce that. Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 19, 2021, 10:35:21 AM +0100 Wish I had not purchased the Porsche now.
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: frex on October 19, 2021, 10:55:08 AM +0100 I understand the concern, but as I said I did do some testing before suggesting the Porsche be included and I have very similar times with the 2 cars. In fact with the M1 being an easier drive and better able to retain heat in the tyres, I am pretty sure I will be faster over a race distance in the M1. You can see my time on the leaderboard in the M1 also.
However, I don't want to step on any toes, or go against Riccardo's original intention to keep this a single-make event, so I'm happy to go with the M1; I enjoy driving both cars in any case. Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 19, 2021, 01:00:16 PM +0100 I am just going off the feedback. Riccardo didn't like it, Geoff thinks it's too fast, Spanner doesn't like it
Tony has spent money. I think you are right, the M1 is certainly easier, so safe option is I owe Tony some money and everyone else will be happy if we make it a spec race. Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 19, 2021, 01:50:10 PM +0100 :lol:
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: BillThomas on October 21, 2021, 01:38:06 PM +0100 With all this discussion on Group 4 cars, I was confused and have practiced with the wrong BMW. ::) C’est la vie! ;)
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 21, 2021, 02:09:37 PM +0100 It is the Gr4 M1 Bill, always has been, that has not changed?
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: BillThomas on October 21, 2021, 02:22:01 PM +0100 It is the Gr4 M1 Bill, always has been, that has not changed? No it’s M1 group 4 (the difference between car group and state of the cars tuning) at least to my simple mind. Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Geoffers on October 21, 2021, 03:04:27 PM +0100 I think Bill is saying he has been practicing with the M1 Procar.
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 21, 2021, 03:30:55 PM +0100 I thought that is what he said. But the race announcement has never said Procar, it has always said M1 Gr4 or just Gr4
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Geoffers on October 21, 2021, 04:46:05 PM +0100 I thought that is what he said. But the race announcement has never said Procar, it has always said M1 Gr4 or just Gr4 :thumbup1: Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 21, 2021, 04:49:55 PM +0100 Hopefully we get a decent turn out for this event. I have always been a fan of the M1. It's worth it just for the sound :w00t:
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: frex on October 21, 2021, 05:10:46 PM +0100 Ah I see my 934 time on the leaderboard has been beaten, nice one Geoff!
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 21, 2021, 05:23:07 PM +0100 I hope the server isn't running yet cos I'm seeing nothing ???
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 21, 2021, 05:59:03 PM +0100 It was. Maybe an update. I'll check
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Riccardo Gengotti on October 21, 2021, 06:40:44 PM +0100 sorry Martin, it's 25 laps or 30 minutes
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 21, 2021, 07:07:55 PM +0100 It is set to 30 mins. Is that wrong?
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: spanner on October 21, 2021, 07:11:41 PM +0100 Times arnt GMT but still BST..
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Riccardo Gengotti on October 21, 2021, 07:13:24 PM +0100 okay, just to point out
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 21, 2021, 07:22:57 PM +0100 Understood. Fixed now thanks
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 21, 2021, 07:27:59 PM +0100 Server is started for practice now, join any time.
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 21, 2021, 08:13:28 PM +0100 I'm still not seeing our race online ???
EDIT: Found it Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Pawel S. on October 21, 2021, 08:36:54 PM +0100 Welp so it seems that I'm late as the times were listed as GMT... As least the Saleen is still to come ::)
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 21, 2021, 09:08:44 PM +0100 Apologies Pavel. I thought I had changed it to BST. I must not have saved the changes. :hang:
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 21, 2021, 09:14:36 PM +0100 Excellent race :thumbup1: I struggled all the event to get a grip on the brakes. Liked the car apart from that.
Had some fun trying to keep up with Pete, went off near the end and he passed, and pulled away. Thanks to all who turned up, next week is Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Geoffers on October 21, 2021, 09:16:55 PM +0100 next week is the finale on the P1 series at Monza 8) Err yes it is Monza but not the finale, Spa after that! :yes: Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Riccardo Gengotti on October 21, 2021, 09:20:06 PM +0100 Great race, great battle with Spanner, and many riders on the track,
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 21, 2021, 09:23:52 PM +0100 I think should maybe go and become a hermit. This modern life is just too much for me it seems ::)
I blame work, it has been challenging these last few months, exams to pass new stuff to learn my head is mashed. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. ;D Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Geoffers on October 21, 2021, 09:30:04 PM +0100 I think should maybe go and become a hermit. This modern life is just too much for me it seems ::) I blame work, it has been challenging these last few months, exams to pass new stuff to learn my head is mashed. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. ;D I can recommend being retired! ;D Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Alessandro Isacchini on October 21, 2021, 09:31:12 PM +0100 Difficult in the braking zone and many mistakes at the Rivazza and too much understeer
Thanks guys and see you next! Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: frex on October 22, 2021, 09:26:02 AM +0100 Enjoyed that, some close racing with John and Geoff, but I did the same to John towards the end as I did to Pete last week - rear-ended him into the chicane, spun in trying to avoid and lost the chance to fight for the place. Sorry John, glad (again) you could carry on unscathed. Congrats podium.
Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Chunky on October 22, 2021, 09:57:55 AM +0100 Frex no worries dude I feel you came off worse than me, yes really enjoyed the close racing. I managed to get a good start and get in front of Geoff so basically had him on my tail for a few laps then he disappeared to be replaced by Frex both judging by there lap times they were faster than me but just couldn't get the run on me to get past as we were all in the same cars! well pleased with 3rd and really enjoy this cars shame we are not using them anymore in this series lol. Note to self must nobble the Italians as they are far to quick ;D
grats to Alessandro and Bonni your were very quick guys! JP Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 22, 2021, 10:45:26 AM +0100 Well, as I keep saying, we need some Bulgarians to balance the Italians ::)
But apparently they need a government subsidy to be able to run with us ;D I was hoping for a French driver to join as well, but he was sadly missed :( Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Christian Dauger on October 22, 2021, 11:57:07 AM +0100 Well, as I keep saying, we need some Bulgarians to balance the Italians ::) But apparently they need a government subsidy to be able to run with us ;D I was hoping for a French driver to join as well, but he was sadly missed :( Oh, yes, I lack content... :-[ Even if it's not a big budget, I don't want to add a game budget now (unemployment) But I could do some races anyway, including the next one... ;) (where is the program poster, I look for it every time !) Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Geoffers on October 22, 2021, 12:13:05 PM +0100 Here is the link for the next race in this series Chris, unfortunately it is not until mid November as we have two other series to complete.
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=27371#event16421 Enjoyed the BMWs although I am not a big fan of Imola. Had a few laps looking for a way past John at the start of the race before making a mistake at Piratella which let Frex past. Chased the two of them for a few more laps before a couple more mistakes dropped me well behind. Got a place back when Frex ran wide at Rivazza only to donate it back to him with another error at Piratella. A couple more errors near the end nearly resulted in Birger catching me but just had enough in hand to hang on to 5th. Good race but far too many mistakes. ::) Congrats to Alessandro, Massimo & John on the podium. :clap: :clap: :clap: Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: phspok on October 22, 2021, 02:51:55 PM +0100 The famous poster is in the Series page: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1631&theme=4 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1631&theme=4)
And there are links to the 3 sizes in the R3E discussion pages: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=25581.45 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=25581.45) Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 22, 2021, 03:05:05 PM +0100 I eventually found my way onto the server last night after realising that I had to tick the "Private" filter button.
I had done quite a bit of practice for this and was pleased with my time set on the leaderboard. So stunned to see the times being posted in qualy. Almost gave up there and then. I was soon left far behind everyone but I was determined to finish so just kept plodding away. I don't find RRE very immersive, I don't know why. It looks and sounds wonderful so I guess it's just me (old fart). I have a dislike of cars with LCD display's but I'll keep going with this series and see if I can attract another point to match the one I already have. Pleased for Matt that he had a good turnout. PS After watching the replay it looks like I could have attacked the chicane a bit harder, maybe I was losing time there? Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: spanner on October 23, 2021, 04:46:44 PM +0100 Having probably driven Imola more in ACC recently it was really hard to readjust to this car which required more braking distance, concentration to stop locking it up and oh the understeer on default setup. Took a while but managed to make it easier to drive.
Some good battles in the race even if it was still a struggle to drive the car, almost took Riccardo out into the first corner; the desire ot brake later just means your locking up! Tony: LCD displays? It had a analogue rev counter? Title: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 23, 2021, 04:54:19 PM +0100 Tony: LCD displays? It had a analogue rev counter? I meant future cars in upcoming races e.g. Saleem etcTitle: Re: RRE Season 8 (2021) Legends - Imola - Oct 21 Post by: BiriBiri on October 24, 2021, 12:50:05 PM +0100 Great race, difficult car and a big grid ;D
Congrats to the Italians :notworthy: Good start after some laps Frex was faster and overtook me. In the first 10min i was in a batle with Baldoni until he made a small mistake. Then i was somewhere in no man`s land between the fast guys and the mid pack. When spanner and riccardo didn`t fight they where closing on me untill at 1.5sec, but luckily they fighted again for position. Last two laps i was surprised to Geoff again ;D Hopefully the grids remain above 10+ drivers, |