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December 07, 2008, 08:29:34 PM +0000 - Spa (2003) - UKGTR Season 8 Pre-season 9
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 430 (#70000) GT2 2 +1.092
112.963mph
1 1:22:07.812
100.937mph
32 2:19.242
111.631mph
Michelin  
jan duijs
 Dutch Turtles
Ferrari 430 (#70000) GT2 6 +2.826
111.558mph
2 +1:32.513
99.077mph
32 2:20.255
110.825mph
Michelin  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#760052) GT2 12 +5.586
109.391mph
3 +1:55.475
98.626mph
32 2:21.791
109.624mph
Pirelli  
H@L9000
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#4142) GT2 5 +2.357
111.934mph
4 +2:00.725
98.524mph
32 2:19.867
111.132mph
Michelin  
evert blommert
 Dutch Turtles
Ferrari 430 (#70000) GT2 9 +3.491
111.028mph
5 +2:10.813
98.327mph
32 2:21.310
109.998mph
Michelin  
API
 
Ferrari 430 (#70000) GT2 7 +2.944
111.463mph
6 +1L
97.585mph
31 2:21.212
110.074mph
Michelin  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 430 (#70000) GT2 15 +6.442
108.736mph
7 +19.239
97.206mph
31 2:24.615
107.484mph
Michelin  
Reign Man
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lamborghini Gallardo (#80000) GT2 8 +1:05.519
96.307mph
31 2:27.391
105.459mph
Michelin  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#60000) GT2 18 +7.454
107.971mph
9 +2:15.612
94.976mph
31 2:21.885
109.552mph
Michelin  
Jon Marjanen
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4062) GT2 14 +5.725
109.284mph
10 +2L
94.495mph
30 2:25.538
106.802mph
Pirelli  
Mcfids
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lamborghini Gallardo (#80000) GT2 16 +6.566
108.641mph
11 +3L
90.975mph
29 2:32.808
101.721mph
Michelin  
Joss
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Gallardo (#80000) GT2 1 2:16.508
113.867mph
12 +7L 25 2:18.276
112.411mph
unknown
Michelin  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#950014) GT2 19 +8.943
106.866mph
13 +13L 19 2:29.524
103.955mph
unknown
Michelin  
Jorgen Wahlby
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 430 (#70000) GT2 4 +2.257
112.015mph
14 +15L 17 2:19.809
111.179mph
unknown
Michelin  
nsfast
 
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#60000) GT2 3 +2.214
112.050mph
15 +16L 16 2:20.575
110.573mph
unknown
Michelin  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 GTC (#970001) GT2 21 +9.484
106.470mph
16 +17L 15 2:26.792
105.890mph
unknown
Pirelli  
Busi
 Racin24-7
Panoz Esperante GTLM (#50000) GT2 13 +5.697
109.305mph
17 +20L 12 2:21.888
109.549mph
unknown
Michelin  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#60000) GT2 17 +6.895
108.392mph
18 12 2:22.661
108.956mph
suspension
Michelin  
lazlow
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 430 (#70000) GT2 8 +3.164
111.288mph
19 +22L 10 2:21.825
109.598mph
suspension
Michelin  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Ferrari 430 (#70000) GT2 22 +11.465
105.045mph
20 +23L 9 2:22.433
109.130mph
unknown
Michelin  
jpv
 
BMW M3 GTR (#4143) GT2 20 +9.033
106.800mph
21 +26L 6 2:28.620
104.587mph
unknown
Michelin  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Panoz Esperante GTLM (#50000) GT2 22 +29L 3 2:28.003
105.023mph
unknown
Michelin  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Panoz Esperante GTLM (#50000) GT2 10 +3.713
110.852mph
23 3 2:37.696
98.568mph
unknown
Michelin  
JPS
 Legends Racing
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#60000) GT2 11 +4.805
109.995mph
24 3 2:28.057
104.985mph
unknown
Michelin  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT2
2:16.508
113.867mph
Joss
Qualifying
Lamborghini GallardoDecember 07, 2008, 08:29:34 PM +0000
U8.9
GTR2
GT2
2:18.276
112.411mph
Joss
Race
Lamborghini GallardoDecember 07, 2008, 08:29:34 PM +0000
U8.9
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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2008, 08:10:43 AM +0000 »

Yes, Busi, I started on medium slicks, full fuel. When the rain started I was watching my laptimes and after 20 minutes I was closing to my testing wet laptimes, so I decided to pit as it didn't look like the raining will stop and the car will be more stable with the same laptimes if the raining would get worse (and it did Grin ). Pitted 1 lap after Freq, I think, took hard wets and topped the tank (I was left with 20 after finishing). Your times (10 seconds +) on slicks in the rain are incredible, Busi!  Shocked  How much wing did you have? I had 5 and this was impossible, I was 10+ sec slower on wets...  Tongue

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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2008, 08:28:29 AM +0000 »

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« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2008, 08:40:23 AM +0000 »

wow, that was a roller coaster of a race for me with varying fortunes.

First off, Spa in changeable weather conditions over an enduro length is just fantastic  tt1 ..thats exactly how Spa should be and makes it part of the challenge of racing on what is already a superb track regardless of weather. Loved the strategy it forces, great fun.  Cool

Joined late in qually as got my times all wrong for the sessions, thinking it was practise starting later Sad
Only managed 1 flying lap and on 2nd lap around i was 2-3 seconds up on my time with 2 corners to go when the session ended  Roll Eyes
So qualied 16th, only for some numpty to rear end me on the warm up lap and punt me into the scenery  Angry...cant believe this still happens  wacko
Dropped to 2nd or 3rd last as a result and now really fired up !
At the green flag i drove like a demon, slicing through the traffic and made it back upto 16th before the first couple of laps were over, taking no prisoners  Smiley
A few laps later i was upto 11th and chasing 10th when the rain started to fall. This was where my first tactical error showed itself as i had picked my dry setup, tweaked for a possible wet race rather than a wet setup tweaked for a possible dry race. Tongue and gradually the car got slower and slower as i corrected the oversteers and understeers through the corners. Did a few laps like that then dived in for some rain tyres.
Thats where tac error number two came in !....i put blinking soft wets on instead of hard wets in my haste  blink
They actually worked great for a number of laps and i soon found myself fighting Jan for 5th place as people started falling off or pitting later for their wets.
Me and Jan had a bit of a dice in the tricky conditions until near flat out in blanchimont when my rear end broke away and i had a multiple high speed spin that gave Jan a whack as he flew through behind me. Sorry about that.
Alas the exact same thing happened a few laps later to DG as he followed me up through Eau Rouge  Sad I was actually pitting at the end of that lap as my soft wet rears had decided to catch fire in temperature and turn to melted cheese, so apologies also to Dave as my spinning top car collected him..i was just a passenger half way up the hill  sweatdrop
I pitted okay but with an RSR shaped like a 50p piece, took on too much fuel as brain couldnt quickly calc what i needed and hard wets and set off to chase the top 10 once more as i had slipped to 14th  :'(
Re-caught a few guys in last half hour and finished a semi-decent 9th place, considering my dramas.  Smiley

997 was great, really enjoyed driving it in the mixed weather conditions. A valuable learning curve. My problem is the ideal wet and ideal dry setups are so far apart it makes it hard to compromise for changing conditions, but guess that applies to most cars/drivers. It was superb in the dry but quite tricky in the wet, but thats also lack of wet weather experience for me. I only had 7 wing on the car,  Shocked so no wonder it was oversteery when it really tipped down.

Big congrats to TT on his maiden win in the F430, superb job, and congrats to the other podium guys and finishers.  thumbup1
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« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2008, 09:03:39 AM +0000 »

Wow. wow. wow !
I love love love love love Spa!
Legzy. you will learn to love it too Smiley
Started with half fuel on soft slicks!
Brilliant in the wet too!
Changed to soft wets when we got to 100% rain!
Luckily I stayed out when it looked like the rain had stop and my tyres were cooking!
Rain got worse, tyre temps came down and made it to the end!
Fantastic fun, best race in ages!

Thanks all!

Oh and love the sound of the 430 !

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« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2008, 09:06:13 AM +0000 »

Oh and love the sound of the 430 !

M.

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« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2008, 10:10:11 AM +0000 »

Very happy with last nights race,on the podium for the first time since ages Cheesy Cheesy  MJ you collected my teammate Evert at Blanchimont not me,he told me that he would take terrible revenge next race  Grin Grin
I agree Spa is the best circuit in the world ( sry Legzy).I come there for more then 20 years to watch all kinds of races and guys for sure the wheather there changes so fast that its a real setupnightmare for the drivers.Still they all love to race there.
Really hope that it will be on our race calendar coming season.
Eau Rouge and Blanchimont flat......a thrill ( in real life only F1 cars can do that).

Jan

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« Reply #51 on: December 08, 2008, 12:45:08 PM +0000 »

I think I was on 2-8 wings TT. Well the +10 seconds laptimes were just after you all pitted. By the time FreQ caught me, around lap 12 I think, my laptimes must have been slower but I couldn't take a look at the laptimes as I needed to have 3 eyes focused on the track and the car handling lol but for sure I wasn't going more than 15 seconds slower despite the heavy rain. As I said I found it odd.
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« Reply #52 on: December 08, 2008, 12:51:24 PM +0000 »

Wow, that was a tough, tiring race in the Gallardo. I'd only really practiced in the dry so I was learning the limits as I went along.

I think the new DDS files and other graphic update for GTR2 had an adverse effect on my frame rate with the rain and so many cars. With 10 AI cars in the dry I was getting 40-50fps but it dropped 20-ish for the first part of the race. It also had the nasty habit of dropping to single digit fps for periods of about 10sec - going through Eau Rouge at 2fps is not a good experience Smiley

Didn't really race anybody as I had major trouble keeping the thing planted, but I didn't have a major off until the very end. That was me just being very tired by this point. But at least I finished. Smiley 

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« Reply #53 on: December 08, 2008, 01:59:56 PM +0000 »

Was looking forward to that, but had to jump out during qualifying coz i was getting low frame rates like you
Mcfids (didn't use any DDS files in this one) got back in and started from the back and got the same 2fps on the straight after Eau rouge after a few laps so quit to be on the safe side Huh
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« Reply #54 on: December 08, 2008, 03:16:26 PM +0000 »

i think Spa is quite heavy on fps, being a big circuit and lots of tree covered scenery. Add the rain to that and a full grid and it can affect lower spec pc's.

I had no probs fps wise thankfully, not even the merest stutter.  Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2008, 03:40:41 PM +0000 »

Don't depress me MJ Huh I'm not that low spec am I Huh

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« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2008, 03:56:09 PM +0000 »

2 off track excursions and 2 pit stops, so I am happy with my 5th place result Smiley

Oh yer 4th, not 5th. WHoohoo Cheesy

I started on meds all round and put hard wets on during my first pit stop. I would have been better off with soft wets though I think.
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« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2008, 04:58:17 PM +0000 »

Don't depress me MJ Huh I'm not that low spec am I Huh

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I've got a similar setup, which in theory should blitz GTR2, even in the rain with a full grid. So it was a bit of a shock to find it had turned into a slide show - normally get 40-50fps running 1680x1050 with max-ish details

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« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2008, 06:36:12 PM +0000 »

Well i'll make a stand with Legzy, Spa isnt one of my favorite tracks either.

Didnt really stay too long, two drive thru's just annoyed me as i wasnt exactly pushing it into the pitlane so decided to quit. I guess each track is different on how strict they are.

Started on soft fronts, med rear and they were actually lasting quite well, and i wanted to stay on them aslong as possible as the handling suddenly changes with wets but about 25 mins in the rain was just dropping the tyre pressures and i seemed to be one of the last to pit. Came out in 14th and the field seem to be a bit depleted already but then i got the 2nd stop go i'd had enough.
Only had 1 lap but i wasnt sure weather the wets were that much faster in that rain. Did it ever stop raining?

Oh yeah, I was struggling with 50-60fps at times, definately looked jerky at times. If we are running more wet ones i'll have to drop some of the settings down.

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« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2008, 07:40:29 PM +0000 »

So qualied 16th, only for some numpty to rear end me on the warm up lap and punt me into the scenery

That would be me, really sorry about it. Wasn't prepared for a traffic jam there, the bimmer in front dodged to the grass and I couldn't stop in time.

Rest of the race wasn't much better, pitted in for wet tires as soon as the rain started, which turned out to be a slippery mistake. After a few laps ran a corner wide while dodging the lapping cars, trashed my front end and decided to call it a day.
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