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UKGPL Season 17 - Inter-League race - Monaco

This is the third Interleague race of our season 17.  Our guests will be Mybroga Motorsports, who are a long-established club based on the Speedgeezers forums http://forums.speedgeezers.net/index.php?act=idx (http://forums.speedgeezers.net/index.php?act=idx).  This is the first time we've raced Mybroga, but the race has been keenly anticipated by our drivers.  Each league is to field nine cars, and there are no chassis handicaps, drivers will be racing to complete the distance and score points for their team.  The usual warm UKGPL reception please, for our guests from Mybroga!

Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom passworded 'Savage' by 20:55GMT, (You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
Vroc and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password)

Server 1.ukgpl
IP address  194.105.176.22 

Race date = 29-03-2009
Track = Monaco 1967  (Papyrus Original)
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 35 minutes.
Race length = 50 laps (complete 45 laps to score points as a finisher)

Chassis assignments will be posted here when finalised:
Lotus Lorenzo
Eagle Jethro
Ferrari Doni
Brabham John
Brabham Clive
BRM Napo
Honda Hristo
Cooper Glyn
Cooper Sam

If you'd like to represent UKGPL in this race please post on the thread and advise what chassis you'd prefer.  Driver lists and points scored can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=209&theme=6)

Que mala Honda!! No puedo carrera.

Much to my dismay, I'll be away for this one.

GLA

Although I really want to be involved for this race , cos I love Monaco... I have just been told that there is an outside chance that I will be working that night.!!! :-\
Put me down for a drive...the Honda if necessary or the Cooper.

I will try and keep myself in the loop for this one, it depends whether I can make it home on the Monday after this arm-breaking trip.

EDIT: Eagle if possible, although I can stretch to the BRM if needed.

Is it a case of fastest people in fastest cars or the other way round?

I'd like the Honda for this one.

The Waza mobile is yours H. In which case its Cooper or Brab for me, but I suspect competition for the Brab will be fierce so I would be happy with Cooper if that fits.
Just not a Lotus or BRM person I guess :-\

brab please

john

If a spot opens up for me, I'll participate in a P115.

I wonder if our lucky talisman Hristo is willing to continue to make the team selection? ::)

BRM for me :)

Right. Hristo might be the one doing this, I've not nearly enough experience to take on the mantle of full-time captain, and I've got these wantings so far:

Brabham: evilclive (can do Cooper)
Brabham: John Roberts
Cooper: -
Cooper: -
Honda: Hristo Itchov
Eagle: Jethro Walters (can do BRM)
BRM: Napo or Doni
Lotus: -
Ferrari: -

There's a bit of competition for the BRM, surprisingly. Any more for any more?

I thought Evil's our captain?  :)

Anyway, if you ask me, we should make sure we place someone on the front row, so I suggest Lorenzo for the Lotus and fill in the rest as follows:

Brabham: evilclive
Brabham: John Roberts
Cooper: Glyn
Cooper: Will Tway
Honda: Hristo Itchov
Eagle: Jethro Walters
BRM: Napo
Lotus: Lorenzo Galluzi
Ferrari: Doni Yourth

I've skipped Iestyn because nobody has heard from him for weeks now. If someone can't make it, at least let us know please...

-=Hristo=-

I just tidied it all up, since Clive thinks you doing it brings us luck. I don't believe such things of course.

So you're doing it. ;D

I was just editing it, read up.

Lol, of course I don't believe in lucky talismans either but.......seeing as how Hristo's term as stand in captain has been soooo succesful why change a winning formula?? ::)

I really want to drive in this one, but there is still a chance that I will have to work next Sunday night. I will post as soon as i know definitely either way, but it would be wise to have a couple of reserves. :-\
Also, we need to check with Will Tway as I believe that he is on vacation any time now, so may not be available.

Some drivers prefer 66s and some 67s.  Fulvio scored very useful points in the Cooper against Trellet?

Ferrari it is, then.  TY.

I'll get some laps down shortly in prep.

I'm not sure if Fulvio is available either but since we know Will won't make it for sure, Fulvio takes his place in the Cooper seat for the moment.

Fulvio, if you're reading this please let us know if you'd be able to make it for this race. I asked you yesterday during the 66 Albi race but I'm not sure you saw that.

Got the GP67 Ferrari 312 out for some shakedown laps today in prep for this.  Down to the high 26's without serious dramas.  Looking solid for Sunday then.

Monaco.  Anyone can win this.    ::)

(In the line immediately above, I initially mis-spelt 'Monaco'; came out 'Moanaco'; maybe that's closer to the truth!   ;D )

I'm sorry for the late answer Hristo, I read your question in chat and I answered with a short Nope just before the start that you surely didn't have time to read. Anyway I can't race this one too.

Thanks, Fulvio, yeah I definitely missed your answer there. Seems like we're 1 driver short atm then.

Also, this race was agreed for 2100GMT, however Summer Time begins on Sunday morning so that will mean a 10pm start in the UK, which is late for a long race.

I've contacted Mybroga to ask if it is possible to move to 2000GMT but it seems that an earlier start might cause them problems.  Have any of our drivers got difficulties with a late night race?

I have a train to catch at 7.50am Monday morning, but I'll probably be dead before then!

No problems on my end. :)

So 2000GMT/2100BST the likely start time?

Unless Mybroga can make the earlier start at 2000GMT the start will remain 2100GMT, 10pm UK.  You might not have adjusted until you wake up earlier anyway, though?

Hristo, if you're in need of a driver, I can race this interleague if I'm needed. Any chassis will be fine although I may waste one of the faster ones.

The chassis have been already distributed, Sam, so you'd be taking the Cooper that was supposed to be used by Will and Fulvio. Thanks for stepping in.  :)

So the start's 10pm UK time then? 50 laps at Monaco's gonna kill me, if I'm not dead already!!!

Welcome to the team of the  :angel-wings: undead

A rather forgettable debut for the interleague races. Qualified somewhere near the back but made a good start, overtaking a Honda past Tabac and found myself in 7th. I was comfortably holding position until the Cooper's engine had enough and rewarded me with a broken camshaft at the end of the 3rd lap. Ah well, at least I didn't stuff it into the barrier. I'll suspect I won't be needed at the next interleague so best of luck to everyone next time round!

Qualified I think 6th, which surprised me a lot as I wasn't expecting to be that high. Got a decent start, was thinking of turning into T1, and found a very wide Clive inside of me which I wasn't expecting when I hit the brakes as I was past him but should have seen coming. That sent me around so I was facing backwards on the exit, so I just held the brakes so as not to roll downhill and hoped nobody hit me. It didn't happen - I got majorly tagged by either a BRM or a Cooper and just tried to recover from there. Pribluda was going mad, so all I was doing was trying to see how badly the car was handling (worse than a bitch at 4am), how early I had to brake for corners (much earlier), and unfortunately I tagged I think a sick Brabham into Portier when he hit the brakes earlier than I thought he would. I trailed round one more lap, feeling where the car was and how I could keep it on the road, and decided after that lap to park it as it was wobbling worse than me on a Friday night after a few pints of snakebite!

Not the best race, but Lorenzo was leading (just, he'd made a couple cockups), somebody from Mybroga was 2nd, evilclive was 3rd, John Roberts was 4th when I left it.

Hi Guys,
Thanks for organizing this event.
I got lucky and survived to the end, third place with Donnie Y 2nd, and my fellow Mybro Jose Fierro Ford at the head .
I 'm surprised that both the Lotus and I made it to the finish.

I had a good enough start to keep 1st position after starting from pole position and then have the opposition's Ferrari driver behind staying too close for comfort, with Lorenzo following in 3rd. I didn't want to risk my engine so early on as is so important in the Honda, but nevertheless I kept a good enough speed to not let the guy behind have any chances for going on the inside. He kept braking very late and nearly hit me on couple of occasions and thus going wide and losing speed on the exit of the corners. After a few laps he had a bit better exit off Portier so he was right there towards Tabac but I braked late enough to keep him behind. He decided to keep it on the inside initially but then suddenly moved slightly to the right and that was enough to hit me and rearend me just before the entry of the corner and send me into retirement. Pity.

Grats to Mybroga for winning this accident packed race and to Doni - our only finisher.

Not a very satisfactory result for the UK and largely down to me.  I had my chances but fate dealt me from the bottom of the deck.

Grats to the Mybroga gang!  Surviving here is paramount and you doulbed our finishing rate...2 vs 1.

Huge apologies to John Roberts for KO'ing him out of P2.  What a bonehead thing to do.  I didn't know for sure that it was he...I had my suspicions, tho...since a start from pitlane is after the S/F line and I was being scored a lap down with the pitboard of little use at all.

The event started under a grim note when I had no end of controller difficulties.  The FFB feel was all wrong and the calibration shot to Hell.  First lap out in Q and I could barely make it thru the Station Hairpin despite being on full left lock.  WTF?  I jumped out of the server and recalibrated offline and ran a lap at Monaco.  Everything fine.  I came back to the server and the problem re-surfaced.  Impossible!  Again, I left the server and tried to determine what was going on but never did suss to anything.  I got back to the server for a third time and recalibrated there and it seemed better ref the lock but the FFB was still out to lunch.  That I managed a 28 in Q shocked me.  Fearing that things would go horribly wrong on the grid or into T1, I elected to start from the pitlane after everyone had got away.  I honestly didn't think I'd last long as the G25 was well out of tune and around a circuit like Monaco, that will earn punishment early.  Still, if I managed to keep it off the barriers for long enough, I just might snag a point or two for the club and that might help in the final tally.

I passed by a number of shunts early on...saw your's there, Jethro; bad luck...to be running around P10 a lap down on everyone.  Of course, I knew that this was a scoring glitch thanks to the pitlane being down-track of the start line and would be corrected later.  Still, I had to get on with the programme and try to reel in as many as I could.

Around L30, I came across JR seemingly struggling a bit in a Brabham.  He almost lost the car in front of me a couple of times and I did trying to miss him.  There's no way I get around him unless he made a serious error.  And still, of course, I didn't know for sure whom it was.  L34 and JR has a slight slip in Tabac and I get a nice launch and as I'm right on his tail, I reckon this time to make a bid going over to the Gas Works Hairpin.  John held to the right side of the road much longer than I thought he might and in my zeal to get up the inside, stayed well over there myself until I realized that I was going in past the point of no return.  I hammered on the brakes, slid into the inside rail and ricocheted off it to slam JR amidships.  I'm sitting there, stopped, watching his Brabham do a high-side to mount the bales and then fall back onto the roadway...inverted.  Sigh...  Whomever it was, I thought, I'm going to catch an earful for that.  :(

Nothing to do but carry on at that point and I lit out after Lynn who was quite far up the road but I started carving about 2 seconds out of the deficit every lap so it was going to be close.  With just a handful to go, I managed to catch and harry but with little opportunity to get by.  Of course, I was a lap ahead but the scoreboard said otherwise.  With two laps to run, Lynn went a bit wide in the Gas Works and I tucked low to undercut him but he pulled down sharply on me on the exit and we had a minor biff.  Round he went directly in front of me.  I decided to wait and let him recover and we spent the last lap going at it again but I came up just a bit short.

Quite relieved and satisfied to finish the full 50 laps considering the woeful state of my G25 steering.  It caught me out once in the chicane to send me for a wild spin and I was lucky to get away from that with all wheels still attached.  Whatever could have caused this grief?  VROC?  But I've run the UK server before with VROC and no probs.  I do have some brand new firewall software that is giving me fits with access.  Maybe that was the source.  Dunno.  I'll be looking in to this you can bet!

Well done Doni,
I think I just fell asleep!! I was cruising in 3rd spot just keeping the 2nd placed Mybroga Eagle in sight after Hristo and his tag partner stopped at the tobacconist for a long smoke.
Lorenzo was some 6 or 7 secs ahead and was always just out of sight and the pace had settled to a steady 1:27 ish lap time. I think John Roberts was in 4th spot but was some 9 secs back and my mirrors were clear. I knew I could get down into 1:26's with heavy fuel if I really had to, but was content to play it steady though the first half of the race and bide my time.

Maybe it was because there was no really close racing or my mind just wandered for a moment, but as I went up the hill to enter Casino square I completely missed the ease off and change down marker and careered straight on into the welcoming armco...and 3 wheeled Brabhams are not noted for their victories at Monaco, so it was race over.

Thanks to Mybroga for the race and grats for getting 2??!!  cars to the finish.

At least I got to bed at a reasonable hour. :-\

UKGPL Congratulations guys, very nice race, Monaco is beautiful but it is difficult to arrive alive at the end of 50 laps, track thanks for sharing with us, you are gentlemen, unfortunate incidents that occurred, we hope to have more racing with you, greetings to all, a pleasure to have known.

The replay? Thanks  ;)

pd: my apologies for writing in English  ::) :angel:

Doni, could it be you were chosing to use custom FF settings from the Join tab in vroc so it didn't use your actual core.ini settings? Just a guess.

Possibly, Hristo.

This was something that I'd never encountered previously over hundreds of online races and through me into quite a panic.  On my third re-connect, I did access the options tabs on the fire-up menu and selected my own settings in over-ride.  This seemed to help cure the problem somewhat reference steering lock but the FFB strength and kickback was still miles off.  Negotiating the chicane was the worst with the need for a quick left-right on the steering wheel a complete guess everytime.  I did fluff it once clipping a bale and going for a wild spin.  If it weren't for this last attempt that got me some response from the G25, I wouldn't have even started this race.

Any suggestions as to how to avoid this in future?  As mentioned, it was the first time I've ever experienced such a loss and not one I'd like to repeat.

Thank you and congratulations.  Race results are above and the championship table (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=209&theme=6) confirms your victory 35 to 16, well done.

Available via our home page (https://www.ukgpl.com/) which, if you follow the replays link would eventually take you here (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/sorted/2009-03-30/UKGPL__1-00_12-Circuit-de-Monaco/)

Thanks Phil  ;)