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Title: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 18, 2010, 06:26:06 PM +0000
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ROUND 5
16th International Trophy Meeting - International Production Touring Car Race
Saturday 2nd May 1964

All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (30 laps = ~60mins)

Track: Silverstone 1970 GP Circuit Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_silverstone70)

Cars allowed: Ford Falcon, UKGTL Jaguar MKII Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ukgtl_jag2), Daimler V8 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_daimler_v8), Lotus Cortina, Mini Cooper S, 1310 Mini Cooper S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_mini1310).

Ford Falcon available only to new drivers and anyone 12th or lower in the championship standings.
1310 Mini Cooper S available only to new drivers and anyone 18th or lower in the championship standings.
 
This race will use the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk BSCC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=267&theme=5)
(4) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: This event is started by a flagman on the right hand side of the circuit. Recommend turning the start countdown on.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 10, 2011, 12:41:17 AM +0000
Please read this

After the recent test race it was discovered that the Jag MkII has a delicate engine. If you drive it hard the engine will quickly expire. If you watch the revs and don't exceed 6000rpm you will be fine.
I have added another car to this series, the Daimler V8. There are two versions. The white car suffers in the same way as the Jag MkII however the red car has no problems.
I will continue to investigate if there is a fix for the Jag.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 29, 2011, 03:28:21 PM +0100
Filefront http://www.gamefront.com/files/20276957/SRou_GTL_Silverstone70s_0.92.0.0.exe


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Hotkeys on May 23, 2011, 02:36:22 PM +0100
Hmm.... very quite in this thread - - -  is this race cancelled or something ?

I did some Jag-practice yesterday and got me a 1.47.300 lap. which seems to be about my limit here.

Did anyone else have a go at it?


Stig



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: BillThomas on May 23, 2011, 06:12:43 PM +0100
1;52 After a few laps in the Falcon but I hope to break into 1:49s


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: SpecialKS on May 23, 2011, 06:15:06 PM +0100
1:50,9 with the Falcon so far.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Hotkeys on May 23, 2011, 06:49:03 PM +0100
oops ... it wasn't a 47.300 but a 48,300..... just wanted to scare the topguns a little  ;)

Stig


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 23, 2011, 06:54:56 PM +0100
1:51.19 in the Jag for me


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: SpecialKS on May 23, 2011, 08:09:43 PM +0100
Down to 1:49,6 in the Falcon now.

I'm sure with a better setup there would be some space left.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: phspok on May 24, 2011, 12:56:26 PM +0100
Can't make any races this week, including last Sunday, as I am working up in Glasgow.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 24, 2011, 01:16:23 PM +0100
Can't make any races this week, including last Sunday, as I am working up in Glasgow.

Sorry to hear that Matt.

Now I just need to get 5th


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Hotkeys on May 24, 2011, 05:49:54 PM +0100
Can't make any races this week, including last Sunday, as I am working up in Glasgow.

So you're off to Glass-go to WORK ? I could think of many good reasons to visit Glasgow, working is not one of them  ;)

Apparently 1.48 was not my limit 'cause I just managed a 47.800 1.47.330 on ½ tank. I might did actually do that 1.47.300  ;D

Unfortunately Ade and his likes will be aprox. 1 sec faster  ;D

The tyres are my problem now , they won't last 3o laps, that's for sure.

Stig


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Hotkeys on May 25, 2011, 08:36:05 PM +0100
Is the server up and running ?

If it is, I have a problem  :o


Stig


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 25, 2011, 11:33:27 PM +0100
Is the server up and running ?

If it is, I have a problem  :o


Stig

It was probably shut down if another race series was running


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: goldtop on May 26, 2011, 05:52:32 PM +0100
I hope to make this one, but will be a last minute entry if I manage it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Hotkeys on May 26, 2011, 08:38:06 PM +0100
Damned  >:( >:( was struck by some strange mismatch in the middle of the qualification ..... I tried to reenter, loaded about 8 cars and then the game crashed :'(

Doesn't really encourage you to practice for a race, when you never know, if it's gonna work or not  :-\

Grrrrr....... if only these cars and tracks were available in LFS. When I raced LFS I never experienced all those stupid online mismatches that both P&G and GTL produce.

Stig





Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 26, 2011, 09:47:36 PM +0100
Damned  >:( >:( was struck by some strange mismatch in the middle of the qualification ..... I tried to reenter, loaded about 8 cars and then the game crashed :'(

Doesn't really encourage you to practice for a race, when you never know, if it's gonna work or not  :-\

Grrrrr....... if only these cars and tracks were available in LFS. When I raced LFS I never experienced all those stupid online mismatches that both P&G and GTL produce.

Stig

Sorry to hear that mate. Try downloading Game Booster. It can sort out a load of troubles.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: M Cinderby on May 26, 2011, 10:08:41 PM +0100
 ;D Another interesting race. Ade and I were on Team Speak and both decided to take the Tina's out for another spin. We bet on the Jags running out of rubber. Everyone was fairly close on quali times so it looked to be a close race.  ;D

I battled for many laps with Sid and Gold Top, Gold top was quick to beggin with, and we swapped places a few times both trying to size up Sid's Jag, but Sid was having none of it!  :) Eventually Gold top dropped back but try as I might I could not close the 4 sec gap to Sid. Ade was having similar problems with Geoffers and Mr J and by lap ten we started having discusions about exactly when the Jag tyres would go off?  ??? Luckily for me I saw a big puff of smoke in the distance which marked the end of Sid but by lap 25 Ade and I had given up all hope of the Jag tyre theory and we were now banking on a forlorn hope of the smell of Jag engine cooking gently over a hot BBQ.

Lap 30 came and Mr J's engine had had enough.................P1 for Geoffers, P2 for Ade, P3 for me  :angel: Well done guys and thanks for another great event Tony.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 26, 2011, 10:13:14 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted

Don't forget our Bank Holiday Monday race, DUSK (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9036.msg162487#msg162487)

It's next MONDAY. That's MONDAY, not Thursday. MONDAY


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: M Cinderby on May 26, 2011, 10:19:32 PM +0100
 ;) I will try to be there Tony................Cheers.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: goldtop on May 26, 2011, 10:42:38 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted

Don't forget our Bank Holiday Monday race, DUSK (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9036.msg162487#msg162487)

It's next MONDAY. That's MONDAY, not Thursday. MONDAY

Just checking, this is on Monday right  :)

Should be able to make this one  :)

As for tonight's race, a nice battle with Mark for many laps until I just clipped the grass on exiting Stowe and I was off lawn mowing. Made a couple more silly errors trying to chase back and ended up running alone for 10 laps or so to the end  ::)

Those Jags make good barbeques.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Navin R Johnson on May 26, 2011, 11:09:52 PM +0100
It was nice running the old school Silverstone. Haven't been there in awhile and it brought back some nice GPL memories ;D. I had a OK start but got passed by Geoffers before turn one. I was able to get back by before the end of the lap 1 and then Geoffers and I were dance partners for the rest of the race.. Well... 29 3/4 laps anyways :-[. I was in the lead for about 1/3 of the race and then realized there would be no way to make it at that pace with the fragile Jag. So I started shifting earlier and Geoffers was able to get back by. I ran the tallest gear in the Jag. 2nd and 3rd gear matched up pretty well with most corners but 4th gear was just a little too short for the long straights. At some point a small off by Geoffers allowed me back by but it was still a balancing act the whole way with race pace vs engine life. Geoffers got held up a bit about 3/4 through which allows me to save a bit on engine life but slowly but surely Geoffers reeled me in and on the 2nd to last lap I had to push pretty hard to stay in front and when I started my last lap I noticed 1% of engine life :o. Gulp!! With a half lap to go it was 0% and I just waited for the inevitable :'( That said, Geoffers clearly deserved the win as his race pace was better than mine and if he had not gotten slowed a bit he would of passed me much earlier and sailed on for the win. So big Congrats to Geoffers for a well deserved win and thanks for the fun battle ;). Grats also to Ade for second and Mark for a solid 3rd place. Look forward to the next race. A gem of a track called Crystal Palace 8) Hope I can make that race.. Cheers all ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Geoffers on May 27, 2011, 11:44:36 AM +0100
That was a fun race, battling with Navin for (nearly) the entire distance.  :thumbup1:

I understood the Jag engine was a bit fragile, but when I tested it offline it was no problem, stayed at 100% health all the time! Strange that online it is prone to blowing  ???. Anyway with that in mind I didn't even try running it with manual clutch as I thought auto-clutch would be kinder to the old girl. Got a good start & grabbed the lead at Copse, ran a bit wide at Abbey & Navin went past. Thought I may have a job hanging on but was able to stay in touch without much trouble. At about 1/3rd distance I got a good run out of Stowe & took the lead & tried to get away but it seemed whoever was behind had the benefit of the tow & could keep up quite easily.

Noticed that the engine health was going down quite quick so like Navin I started changing up a bit early. At 2/3rd distance I ran wide at Woodcote & Navin got back ahead & a couple of laps later we caught Bill at just the wrong place & I lost a couple of seconds. Having lost the tow I thought the chance of the win had gone but I managed to close the gap & was right with Navin as we started the last lap. Tried hard to find a passing place but coming out of Club Navin's Jag went up in flames  :o. So cruised home for the win.  ;D

Congrats to Ade & Mark, bad luck to Navin & thanks for a great battle.  :thumbup2:



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Syd Drake on May 27, 2011, 12:22:39 PM +0100
I was in a solid 4th place when the engine blew up on lap 15. I guess those Jag engines are as bad as advertised. Really narrows the car choice to just the cortina for almost everyone.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 27, 2011, 12:51:25 PM +0100
I was in a solid 4th place when the engine blew up on lap 15. I guess those Jag engines are as bad as advertised. Really narrows the car choice to just the cortina for almost everyone.

Not so. If you have XD installed you can monitor your engines health and keep the revs down accordingly.

I was going to take the Jag or Daimler myself but after testing the Cortina (and having not run with it this season) I decided to go with it.
Glad I did as I had a truly excellent race chasing Bill Thomas now, after he barged me off the track in one of the earlier corners. Then tried to catch the two Mini's of Alex and Sandor but they were too quick. Then found that I had Tibs approaching fast and diced with him for a few laps. I did pass Tibs (I think he made a mistake) and even caught and passed Sandor (I think) but then on the final straight I clipped one of those wicked kerbs, which gave my car a massive swerve and after trying to compensate I left the track and headed, at speed, into the infield collection of hangers etc. More dicing with Bill followed and tried to catch Sandor (or was it Alex?) again and although I got the gap down to single figures, the race finished and he was saved.
Fantastic to see such an authentic mixed grid. Hope to see you at Spa on Monday or if not at the next ECCC which looks like being a very interesting event to choose a car for.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Tibernius on May 27, 2011, 01:37:32 PM +0100
Glad I did as I had a truly excellent race chasing Bill Thomas now, after he barged me off the track in one of the earlier corners. Then tried to catch the two Mini's of Alex and Sandor but they were too quick. Then found that I had Tibs approaching fast and diced with him for a few laps. I did pass Tibs (I think he made a mistake) and even caught and passed Sandor (I think) but then on the final straight I clipped one of those wicked kerbs, which gave my car a massive swerve and after trying to compensate I left the track and headed, at speed, into the infield collection of hangers etc. More dicing with Bill followed and tried to catch Sandor (or was it Alex?) again and although I got the gap down to single figures, the race finished and he was saved.

Can't quite remember what happened in the race atm, so I'll comment on that later. I know I made a couple of big mistakes but I can't remember when.

You were managing to scare me for that section of the race though Tony. You were warping about a car length back regularly and I was trying my best not to punt you off because of it. That and since I've moved my FOV forward I've now got a nice 90o blind spot directly to either side. :o Time to muck about with my .plr file again...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 27, 2011, 07:20:15 PM +0100
Sorry to hear about the warping Tibs. Was it all the time or just sporadic? Anyone else see me warping?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: M Cinderby on May 27, 2011, 08:09:13 PM +0100
Sorry to hear about the warping Tibs. Was it all the time or just sporadic? Anyone else see me warping?
You looked ok when I passed you Tony.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Tibernius on May 27, 2011, 08:14:35 PM +0100
Sorry to hear about the warping Tibs. Was it all the time or just sporadic? Anyone else see me warping?

Constant. It could have been me, but everyone else seemed fine apart from you, Tony, which is what made me think it was you rather than me. Nothing major just made it a bit more difficult to fight you.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Alex vV on May 27, 2011, 09:18:23 PM +0100

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/GTL/Silv70May11/)

Expected a quit night of racing in the Mini but got entertainment all the way!
At the beginning had some nice fights with the usual suspects and Tibernius.
Then teamie started to build a gap and got haressed by Tony. WT ventured past me eventually (yes, it was I, not Sandor), but then I was witness of the Mother of All Tankslappers when Tony careered across the straight at full speed.... just a couple of meters in front of me  :o
Then it was a steady race with gap and keeping me honest to the end.

Sorry to hear about the warping Tibs. Was it all the time or just sporadic? Anyone else see me warping?

Constant. It could have been me, but everyone else seemed fine apart from you, Tony, which is what made me think it was you rather than me. Nothing major just made it a bit more difficult to fight you.

Yes, especially at the beginning.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 27, 2011, 11:37:43 PM +0100
Thanks for the feedback guy's. I have been considering switching to Virgin Media just to get fibre optic broadband (we already have our phone through them). My BT line recently failed and since the "repair" I've been having lots of problems staying in races. Been doing some line speed test's and I'm currently getting high and low 5Mbps.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Alex vV on May 28, 2011, 07:43:32 PM +0100
btw. I think Navin should be ranked 7th. He blown his engine on the last lap. Those who were lapped (starting with me)  could not overtake him anymore.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: BillThomas on May 29, 2011, 10:41:10 AM +0100
I was in a solid 4th place when the engine blew up on lap 15. I guess those Jag engines are as bad as advertised. Really narrows the car choice to just the cortina for almost everyone.

Glad I did as I had a truly excellent race chasing Bill Thomas now, after he barged me off the track in one of the earlier corners. Then tried to catch the two Mini's of Alex and Sandor but they were too quick. Then found that I had Tibs approaching fast and diced with him for a few laps.

 Hope to see you at Spa on Monday or if not at the next ECCC which looks like being a very interesting event to choose a car for.

Sorry about that Tony, did run wide at Club (?) and let you back through then you had a spin, just before the Hanger Straight, allowing me to get by again.  After that I had to work hard to try and keep my speed up and after a few laps got a cut corner warning which upset my rhythm.  Then I was slow into Club(?) and you got the drop on me and the line for the next corner which unfortunately I contested, running wide leaving you to get away.

Planning to race Monday but don't know for how long - it's too fast for me in these cars.

Bill Thomas now.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: SpecialKS on May 29, 2011, 08:42:08 PM +0100
Short one for me.

After some laps I lost the car and could not avoid that Tibernius hit me (sorry for that - but fortunately you were able to finish).
Some laps later I for myself could not avoid to hit Bill who had a turnaround and left the track - sorry for that too.

So I carried a mortally wounded car around the track for some laps and decided to pit.
Got a Stop&Go penalty for speed limit and a second one for leaving the track.
Came in for the first one and forgot the second one - so consequently I got disqualified.

Sh.. happens.

Congrats to all finishers. Nice track - good race.

See you next time.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 30, 2011, 12:18:57 AM +0100
Short one for me.

After some laps I lost the car and could not avoid that Tibernius hit me (sorry for that - but fortunately you were able to finish).
Some laps later I for myself could not avoid to hit Bill who had a turnaround and left the track - sorry for that too.

So I carried a mortally wounded car around the track for some laps and decided to pit.
Got a Stop&Go penalty for speed limit and a second one for leaving the track.
Came in for the first one and forgot the second one - so consequently I got disqualified.

Sh.. happens.

Congrats to all finishers. Nice track - good race.

See you next time.

Did wonder why the pits were seeing so much of you. Some races just go like that  :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Sandor M on May 30, 2011, 02:30:05 PM +0100
Was a very last minute decision to race and downloaded the track 25 minutes before start  ;D
Luckily for me the track was easy to learn and I had a set-up for a mini available.

I expected even worse than normal but it ended up to be a fun race. First half of the race I was chasing / being chased by Alex and the second half of the race it was Tibernius who joined me.
Tibernius was way faster and I cold not keep him behind me .

Nice track , good race, great fun....


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 11 British Saloon Car Championship - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 30, 2011, 02:43:15 PM +0100
btw. I think Navin should be ranked 7th. He blown his engine on the last lap. Those who were lapped (starting with me)  could not overtake him anymore.

Agreed. Position now revised to show this.