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Title: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 20, 2005, 11:48:44 AM +0000
ALL UKGTL'ers WELCOME!

Date: Thursday 24th November

Practice: 8:15pm (30 mins)
Qual: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (30 mins) - STANDING START - GTC76 cars only.

Track: Magny Cours GP
Race Time Of Day Setting: 7:00am

Password: usual practice password (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929)


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Jamera on November 20, 2005, 12:08:30 PM +0000
Yep, Yep  ;D


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: fozzmeister on November 20, 2005, 12:39:05 PM +0000
I should be in for this one  ;D


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: LEUVEN on November 20, 2005, 03:46:03 PM +0000
ALL UKGTL'ers WELCOME!

Date: Thursday 24th November

Practice: 8:15pm (30 mins)
Qual: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (30 mins) - STANDING START - GTC76 cars only.

Track: Magny Cours GP
Race Time: 7:00am

Lol, I cant even get up that early for work ;D


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: silver53 on November 20, 2005, 07:43:41 PM +0000
will have a go in crapi or escort if i can get it.gerald


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: LEUVEN on November 20, 2005, 07:52:13 PM +0000
Doh!, thought you were gonna race at 7 in the morning.
But thats "Race Time"  ::) :-[


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2005, 08:03:31 PM +0000
ah cool, a thursday instead of friday 'drinking time' ;D eve, good move!  Hopefully i can make it along in my flares and starsky jacket ;)


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Jamera on November 23, 2005, 10:45:39 PM +0000
ah cool, a thursday instead of friday 'drinking time' ;D eve, good move!  Hopefully i can make it along in my flares and starsky jacket ;)


Ahhh well that means I'll have to wear his big cardi then  ;D


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: LEUVEN on November 24, 2005, 05:42:41 PM +0000
ALL UKGTL'ers WELCOME!

Date: Thursday 24th November

Practice: 8:15pm (30 mins)
Qual: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (30 mins) - STANDING START - GTC76 cars only.

Track: Magny Cours GP
Race Time Of Day Setting: 7:00am

Is that just for me?  :-[;D


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Aagramn on November 24, 2005, 10:01:54 PM +0000
Took the lower-powered BMW again. Qualified 8th, but went past 4 cars at the start while half the grid did a weird backside waggling dance accomponied by clouds of tyre smoke. Was a bit dull after that, quickly pulled away from the pack while the top 3 left me. Went up to 3rd when PaulW ran into a sandtrap, but Mark Jonzo caught me a few laps later and breezed past in his 911. Didn't see another car for the rest of the race and finished 4th.

Another good win to LEUVEN, was pleased he didn't lap me this time  ;), with Don and Mark taking 2nd & 3rd.


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 24, 2005, 10:11:51 PM +0000
Twas fun until Tiscali intervened and discoed me.

Great fun battling with fozz, in his rocket ship, and Rich. I need to pratice more in the 76's as our very different braking points made it very awkward and eventually got the better of me. At least I avoided them and I suppose fun races are the best places to learn.

Hope to see you tomorrow.


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: fozzmeister on November 24, 2005, 10:24:35 PM +0000
I think I battled with everyone there, it was totally stupid and insane. I went off in the first complex early on, nothing major, but both wheels on grass, then overtook 2 cars before i got to the hairpin! That was kindof the pattern for the first few laps, I was deliberately moving wide to let people pass for position, then just blasting them down the straight! I think my tires went off, or maybe I just got scared of putting the power down because it seemed to get a lot more boat like the longer it was on the track.

I had a great battle with PaulW who was clearly so much faster than me, but he could only overtake me in the second half on the track, round the first half I was far quicker (or rather my car :-) ) Must have been 5 laps we were battling, Until eventually I nudged PW off in the first complex (sorry I realised too late that I had no chance of altering the way my car was heading), I waited for him, but got dis-orientated and nudged him off again at the hairpin! Sorry about that PW. Hopefully you enjoyed the battle as much as I did tho.

I'm so glad I took that car!


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: fozzmeister on November 24, 2005, 10:26:16 PM +0000
In the second race I could not get out of my garage so quit, the could not get out of the lobby into the serv, so quit.

Sorry could not make another race, ought to call it a night anyway, tis exhausting that game.


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Mark J on November 24, 2005, 10:55:31 PM +0000
really good fun, cant wait for the UKGTR championships to start in these beauties. Had great qualy getting 3rd behind two aliens ;)
Smoked my tyres too much on  start and dropped about 3 slots min but fought my way back upto 3rd by race end after a few good dices with Rich_A and fozzy.
Great stuff and i was very happy with 3rd considering it was my first competitive outing in the 911 and first time around magny in these 70;s babies 8)


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Zacari on November 24, 2005, 11:37:01 PM +0000
That was a good laugh!  Much more consistant than the Imola race, and I've never liked Magny much before.

Qualified in 3rd I think in the end, was 2nd after the hairpin then basically didn't see anyone for ages.  Leuven pulled away 1-1.5 secs a lap and I was pulling out 1-1.5 secs a lap also, until the last lap when I ended up double-downshifting into the long left-hander.  In GTR there'd be no way I'd have stopped before the barriers but thankfully it's GTL and I didn't damage the car.  Was just about to pull back on track until I realised Fozz's boat was on an immovable slide in my general direction :o so (just) managed to keep out of the way!  Then pootled round to finish 2nd, albeit after some weird traffic moments.  Grats to Leuven again for more alien-esque driving!

Still finding the field very spread out compared to GTR, though tomorrows single-car race should be much closer :)


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Don on November 25, 2005, 07:52:07 AM +0000
Well that was fun.
Had trouble keeping the CSL on the track and trying to push at the same time. Couldn't seem to find the right balance. These cars Seem to me to be much harder to drive than the GTR cars round the same track?

Thanks Michael, but I think I actually finished 6th or so...  You seemed to have no probs in the Beemer?


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Rich_A on November 25, 2005, 10:28:25 AM +0000
Qualified 2nd but had aweful start.. then was in the group with Fozz which was a bit crazy.

For double shifts I got sent a program by a guy at RSC which maps keys to wheel buttons and can also set a delay time in milleseconds before next entry can occur. I set my shift buttons to 225 milleseconds and have not had a double shift since. If you want it I will upload it to my FTP or maybe it can go on simracing.org.uk FTP.


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Rich_A on November 25, 2005, 10:54:44 AM +0000
It's on my FTP :)

Save target as http://www.auyu41.dsl.pipex.com/KeyDelay.zip


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Aagramn on November 25, 2005, 11:14:03 AM +0000
Thanks Michael, but I think I actually finished 6th or so...  You seemed to have no probs in the Beemer?

I was driving the lower powed beemer, were you in the one with the red stripes? It's much more of a handful. I know Magny pretty well from GTR, so I quickly settled into a rythym. Getting a good exit from the corner before the long straight is critical. Was lapping consistantly in the high 1:56s/ low 1:57s by keeping it tidy. The car was a bit unpredictable over the kerbs in the high-speed chicanes, so I gave myself some margin for error.

Would be interesting to see how fast one of the quick drivers could go in the slower BMW. I think it's a bit slower than the 911s, but I don't know by how much.

Thanks for the key delay prog Rich, I occasionally get double shifts so might give that a try.


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: PaulW on November 25, 2005, 11:53:14 AM +0000
Yeah, cheers- I'll check that prog out for sure. The ha switch on my DFP is a bit funny with the HUD and lights I've got mapped to it. One press equalls about 10 really fast ones so that it looks like I'm driving along flashing at people when I try to turn them on. I think the heavier CSL is probably the faster car around Magny- I've a 1:55 hotlap in it so far, although not race pace admittedly! It's heavier but those long straights are where the extra power really makes the difference.


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Rich_A on November 25, 2005, 01:49:55 PM +0000
np MickeyMouse made it at RSC. I've found 300 milleseconds is a little too long for when I want to do quicker than normal downshift.. i'd say something between 150 and 250 is about right.

At GTL rank there is a 1m44 in RSR 911!! I find that hard to believe tbh..


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: PaulW on November 25, 2005, 02:40:05 PM +0000
I saw that time... don't buy 1:44 at Magny at all ::)


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 25, 2005, 02:55:38 PM +0000
Apparently you can do 1:46's in the beamer ;).

Not got to 76ers in cups yet so I do find them tricky to drive but the beamer does seem the easiest. Its about the most stable car under braking I have come across and I could brake later than the 911, and fozz's rocket ship  ;D. And its a bit different to all those 911's and capris.


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Aagramn on November 25, 2005, 04:14:00 PM +0000
There are lots of dodgy times on GTLRank. Sometimes when playing online it records the PB on the wrong track, I've had this happen to me a couple times.


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: silver53 on November 25, 2005, 06:18:38 PM +0000
Hi Guys found out why the crapi did not spin wheels before had it in rev limiter. Did not have enough time for a set up last evo brakes were deadly and I ended up selling it and getting the escort. This one sounds like the cars we ran and seemes about the same for driving.bye for now gerald


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 25, 2005, 06:28:15 PM +0000
Yes there are a lot of dodgy times on GTL Rank because of the bug of saving to the wrong track but don't underestimate how fast people can go with the right setup, the right skill and the practice of a car.

If I compare my GTR lap times of now to when I first started i would have thought they were impossible, but you live and learn.


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: Aagramn on November 25, 2005, 07:17:41 PM +0000
True, but 7 seconds faster than Leuven sounds very unlikely.


Title: Re: GTL GTC76 Fun Race - Nov 24
Post by: LEUVEN on November 25, 2005, 08:02:46 PM +0000
Thanks Michael, but I think I actually finished 6th or so...  You seemed to have no probs in the Beemer?

I was driving the lower powed beemer, were you in the one with the red stripes? It's much more of a handful. I know Magny pretty well from GTR, so I quickly settled into a rythym. Getting a good exit from the corner before the long straight is critical. Was lapping consistantly in the high 1:56s/ low 1:57s by keeping it tidy. The car was a bit unpredictable over the kerbs in the high-speed chicanes, so I gave myself some margin for error.

Would be interesting to see how fast one of the quick drivers could go in the slower BMW. I think it's a bit slower than the 911s, but I don't know by how much.

Thanks for the key delay prog Rich, I occasionally get double shifts so might give that a try.


I only did 8 laps in the more powerfull BM, and got a 1:54.212.
So maybe after a few more laps I could get into the 53's.
I havn't been In the lower power BM yet so Ill post the results when I have them, as I only really go on GTL when there is a fun race ATM.
Hopefully a league/season will start soon and I'll be on it more. :)