Endurance Championship Division 1 - Season 1, Round 3, Enna - Aug 14

[Muorali]

"Well that was quite fun in the BMW, qualie'd 16th but I wasn't expecting higher!  The parade lap was a bit of a farce, ended up having to do over 200kmh on a couple of occasions to keep up.  Is it always like that near the back?"

Thats impossible - I kept the formation lap to way Way below 80 mph, some occasions I was cruising at just 60. CHeck the reply if you want.

[fozzmeister]

I did intentionally let you go Fozz, there's no way a beamer can keep up with a 360 over a lap with so many straights!  And I'd already suffered from a ferrari doing random things when trying to overtake me, so I made sure I could go through the chicane normally.  TBH I was never going to block a driver from passing when I was in a non-scoring car, seen as I was racing for fun rather than for points.  I was a bit nervous of even racing in case I forced someone into the tyers!  But it was all fine in the end 

Well thanks, your thoughtfulness is appreciated.

Fozzmeister

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

Well that was quite fun in the BMW, qualie'd 16th but I wasn't expecting higher!  The parade lap was a bit of a farce, ended up having to do over 200kmh on a couple of occasions to keep up.  Is it always like that near the back?

Thats impossible - I kept the formation lap to way Way below 80 mph, some occasions I was cruising at just 60. CHeck the reply if you want.

Probably there was too much "concertina" going on in the middle of the pack - in the slower cars it can prove quite, ahem, challenging to keep up with the snake once it starts to flex.

[ginsters sponsored]

I do not think I will join you in non-scoring car again. I took the beamer to stay out of everyones way but there was such a speed difference (partly car, mostly me) that there was a real chance I would take off one of the "real" competitors. I would be livid if my race was ruined by non-point scorer, so I will not take that risk again.

If numbers are down, although grid looked pretty healthy anyway, perhaps there is a better way forward. 

[Simon Gymer]

I do not think I will join you in non-scoring car again. I took the beamer to stay out of everyones way but there was such a speed difference (partly car, mostly me) that there was a real chance I would take off one of the "real" competitors. I would be livid if my race was ruined by non-point scorer, so I will not take that risk again.

If numbers are down, although grid looked pretty healthy anyway, perhaps there is a better way forward. 

I would say the Beamer is too slow for Enna and Monza, possibly Spa to be safe for anyone to take. If I fill a spot in Div 2 Endurance race it will be in the Seat probably as the Beamer is too slow. It's fine on tracks with fewer straights, heck I can go faster than a few of the back NGTs, but a tad dangerously slow at Enna.

[Smoothy]

My race ended while in 6th after about 15 minutes when I broke the suspension against the first tyre chicane.

The right compromise between commitment, speed and accuracy is not easy to find is it?

Still, at least I kept my nose clean this time (apart from the tyre marks that is).

Glad to see the back of that track for a while.

[Paul968]

Grrrr - stupid pitstop system! Made a mistake at my nemesis corner (2nd fast chicane) while chasing Jon early on and dropped a couple of  places but was back up to 2nd by the time I pitted. Simon followed me in having had an 'incident' with Muorali, and while I sat waiting for my stop to finish Simon rolled past on his way out. Strange I thought, maybe he didn't change tyres? Then while I sat there waiting longer and longer I realised it wasn't fuelling -  bugger. Vaguely remembered something about the engine needing to be off, turned off the ignition and the fuel started. Lost several more seconds trying to restart, not sure why as I was using the right key. By the time I got going I had lost over a minute and dropped to 5th. Bernie was ahead in the Bi-Turbo but didn't take long to catch. After that there was almost a 50 second gap to 3rd, who I guessed would be Mat. By this time the clock said I had about 20 minutes left, but I was catching him at 3-4 seconds a lap (when I wasn't slowed by the odd backmarker - really tricky when you catch them at the end of a straight). Time ticked down and I got the gap down to a handful of seconds behind and I thought I might do it. Then for some reason the race ended early - how does that work?

Can anyone tell me how the pitstop fuelling works? I have never stopped the engine before and pitstops worked fine - why did it not work this time? My german manual doesn't tell me and I haven't changed the speech out of german either so I couldn't hear the instructions. Must get round to that.

Paul

[ginsters sponsored]

Yep, I thought about the seat. In truth it is the non-point scoring thing that puts me off. In the seat I would be on the pace of some ngt boys but I would not be comfortable either trying to pass, holding them up or unforgivably taking them out. I do not think it is fair for me to get in the way when I realize how much it would irk me. Obviously Shark, with your experience, you can compete more securely and confidently then I. So present system works fine for you but I will not risk taking someone out through my own stupidity.

I only mention it because if numbers go down, nothing worse than empty grid, I would like to make up numbers but would not take part. Sorry I can not offer any easy answers just another problem      .

[Paul968]

I only mention it because if numbers go down, nothing worse than empty grid, I would like to make up numbers but would not take part. Sorry I can not offer any easy answers just another problem

What you have to remember is that taking points as well would be even more irksome. There is no easy answer, but we have to just accept non-scoring cars as all part of the game. Just make sure you are clean :-)

Paul

[Simon Gymer]

Then for some reason the race ended early - how does that work?

Can anyone tell me how the pitstop fuelling works? I have never stopped the engine before and pitstops worked fine - why did it not work this time? My german manual doesn't tell me and I haven't changed the speech out of german either so I couldn't hear the instructions. Must get round to that.

GT racing works on time limit and/or distance limit, depending on which comes first. Enna is a very fast circuit so you always cover the distance before the time. The game is really crap at telling you what the distance is mind you so it makes it hard to know what to do. Enna only reaches about 55 mins in a GT car.

Pits wise you have to turn off the ignition to start refueling then start the ignition AND then subsequently press the starter button to start the engine again when they've finished.

[Paul968]

Thx Simon
    So why in previous races have I never needed to turn the engine off?

Paul

[Simon Gymer]

So why in previous races have I never needed to turn the engine off?

Gawd knows.

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

    So why in previous races have I never needed to turn the engine off?

I've had this happen to me before - every now and again GTR just "forgets" some settings, including the lack of ignition/starter key bindings.

It's current "trick" is to keep forgetting my video resolution and switching from 1280x768 (nice wide view with decent peripheral vision) to 800x600 (in which I can see bugger all). No idea why it's suddenly started doing this.

[fozzmeister]

It's current "trick" is to keep forgetting my video resolution and switching from 1280x768 (nice wide view with decent peripheral vision) to 800x600 (in which I can see bugger all). No idea why it's suddenly started doing this.

Or see exactly the same as most of us...

Actually I'll have to look into that :-)

A friend of mine usually had this issue with Doom3, it was something to with an error condition triggering it (going to a known res), sorry can't remember more :-S

[Don]

 

It's current "trick" is to keep forgetting my video resolution and switching from 1280x768 (nice wide view with decent peripheral vision) to 800x600 (in which I can see bugger all). No idea why it's suddenly started doing this.

Yes mine has started to do that also. I run the config now everytime to make sure the settings are correct before I run the game, how annoying.
Don.