Title: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 12, 2012, 01:36:40 PM +0100 (http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w324/wiltshire_tony/Advert.png) All members welcome.Grid/server capacity: 36 Practice: 18:00 GMT(60 mins) Qualifying: 19:00 GMT(60 mins) Race: 20:00 GMT(36 laps) Download the Jag, Ferrari and Aston for the latest versions Cars allowed: Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1), Ferrari 250 Testarossa Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_250tr), Jaguar D-Type Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype), Mercedes 300SL Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_merc_300sl_lm55), Maserati 450S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s), Aston Martin DBR2 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr2) Collision fix: Don't forget to add the collision fix for the Jaguar and Aston Martin. Jaguar Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22231296/Collision+Fix+for+Jaguar+D-Type+v1_0+by+DonPanoz.rar), Aston Martin Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22231295/Aston+Martin+DBR1+Collision+Fix+v1_0+by+DonPanoz.rar). You don't need these if you have used the downloads indicated above as the GTL installers now incorporate this fix. Track: Solitude 1964 Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22758589/Solitude+64+v1_1+by+NeelJ.rar). If you already have GTL circuit Solitude 1964 v1.1 installed then you won't need the download. Time of Day Setting: 14:00 Start: STANDING Tyre wear: Normal Fuel consumption: Normal Server: simracing.org.uk FIFT Password: see above (#post_event_password) Notes: (1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage. (2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules. (3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read Autopit="0" Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable. Special Notes: No mandatory pit stops however all cars will require at least one pit stop for fuel. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 12, 2012, 10:49:33 PM +0100 Car reservation begins October 1st 2012
Reserve by pm to Wiltshire Tony Cars available are: Aston Martin DBR1 Car No. 2 - Available Car No. 3 - Available Car No. 4 - Available Car No. 7 - Available Car No. 8 - Available Car No. 14 - Available Car No. 16 - Available Car No. 24 - Available Car No. 25 - Available Car No. 44 - Available Car No. 100 - Available Aston Martin DBR2 Car No. 5 - Wiltshire Tony Car No. 49 - Available Car No. 63 - Available Car No. 102 - Available Ferrari 250TR Car No. 12 - Available Car No. 14 - Geoffers Car No. 16 - Available Car No. 17 - Available Car No. 18 - Available Car No. 19 - Available Car No. 20 - Available Car No. 21 - Available Car No. 22 - Bill Thomas Car No. 58 - Available Car No. 102 - Available Car No. 124 - M Cinderby Jaguar D-Type Car No. 3 - Available Car No. 4 - Available Car No. 6 - Available Car No. 7 - Alex vV Car No. 8 - Available Car No. 9 - Johnw Car No. 10 - Available Car No. 15 - Available Car No. 16 - Available Car No. 17 - Available Maserati 450S Car No. 2 - Available Car No. 3 - Available Car No. 4 - Available Car No. 7 - Available Car No. 8 - Available Car No. 19 - Available Car No. 26 - Available Car No. 33 - SpecialKS Car No. 45 - Available Car No. 53 - mcgr Car No. 66 - Available Car No. 81 - Available Car No. 98 - Ross Hawkey Car No. 133 - Available Car No. 513 - Available Car No. 537 - Available Car No. 9857 - Available Mercedes 300SL Car No. 53 - Available Car No. 54 - Goldtop Car No. 55 - Jules Garages still available = 25 Reservations close 27th December 2012 Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 10, 2012, 10:17:57 PM +0000 Thread now open...........
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 15, 2012, 12:07:55 PM +0000 Only one Mercedes left to reserve
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 15, 2012, 05:53:52 PM +0000 All drivers are reminded to practise race conditions pit stops. The server will have this event running on it from Tuesday 18th December.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Geoffers on December 15, 2012, 06:58:27 PM +0000 Tony I have posted this race over at NG & have also put a link to this thread in your thread over at GC.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 16, 2012, 07:37:54 PM +0000 Thanks Geoffers :thumbup1:
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 17, 2012, 11:14:09 PM +0000 Practise track now running on the server
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: phspok on December 20, 2012, 05:28:27 PM +0000 Sadly I will miss this as I will be in Galway from Friday for the new year.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 23, 2012, 06:46:53 PM +0000 Five days to go, reserve your car now!
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 24, 2012, 07:26:23 PM +0000 Drivers, remember to turn on the Limiter after your pit crew have finished servicing your car or you could get a pit lane speeding penalty (stop/go).
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Geoffers on December 27, 2012, 11:53:23 PM +0000 Sorry Tony, looks like I may not make this. Have to go out early evening & unlikely I will be back in time. :(
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Alex vV on December 28, 2012, 02:23:59 PM +0000 4:14. Terribly slow here so I am just going to enjoy the journey through the forest.
More faster drivers, please do not overtake in fast corners. Cannot make way due to centrifugal forces of nature. Will give light, hand and footsignals when I have noticed you. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 28, 2012, 02:43:36 PM +0000 4:14. Terribly slow here so I am just going to enjoy the journey through the forest. More faster drivers, please do not overtake in fast corners. Cannot make way due to centrifugal forces of nature. Will give light, hand and footsignals when I have noticed you. It's not really about fast laps though Alex. These endurance events are more to do with consistency and concentration. Good luck anyway and see you on track. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: johnw on December 28, 2012, 02:49:02 PM +0000 Yep, it's a marathon, not a sprint :) Anyway, PM me your email address if you feel like trying the Jag setup I'm using.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: SpecialKS on December 28, 2012, 02:52:05 PM +0000 4:08 so far, but really very dangerous to leave the track through the woods.
Hope that this won't lead to an early end of race ???. So consistency will the most important thing here. CU tonight Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Alex vV on December 28, 2012, 03:48:26 PM +0000 .. and I have the coolest car with Spitfire sounds and RAF decals :laugh:
Yep, it's a marathon, not a sprint :) Anyway, PM me your email address if you feel like trying the Jag setup I'm using. Thanks John. Did my training session last night and are not really good at last minute changes.Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 28, 2012, 04:16:35 PM +0000 It's more important to finish than to be fastest :smartass:
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: johnw on December 28, 2012, 04:55:25 PM +0000 I'd like to change to one of the '55 Jags - #4 please.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 28, 2012, 04:58:51 PM +0000 I'd like to change to one of the '55 Jags - #4 please. DoneTitle: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: johnw on December 28, 2012, 05:10:02 PM +0000 I'd like to change to one of the '55 Jags - #4 please. DoneOops, just realised #4 is a '57 as well! Can I have #9 please ;D Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 28, 2012, 05:12:32 PM +0000 I'd like to change to one of the '55 Jags - #4 please. DoneOops, just realised #4 is a '57 as well! Can I have #9 please ;D Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 28, 2012, 05:48:35 PM +0000 Car reservations now CLOSED for this event.
But if you want to join us please do so....just don't choose a car that's already been assigned, thanks. Oh and please have all of the cars installed including the Aston Martin DBR2 Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Navin R Johnson on December 28, 2012, 07:30:05 PM +0000 My plans kept changing over the holiday but was planning on racing. Some last minute changes have some of my family going to visit the Battleship USS Iowa today in Long Beach harbor so I'll be joining them. Have fun fellas ;) Cheers
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: BillThomas on December 28, 2012, 08:27:08 PM +0000 Didn't last long, think I managed to hit the straw bales on the pit exit area at the start - apologies to anyone affected. Had a pit stop for repairs but spent too much time behind the scenery. Came off had a long reverse through a tree lined area, managed to rejoin but didn't get warning of wrong direction this time, even though didn't recognise where I was. Quit so as not to risk driving in wrong direction with blind brows and corners.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: SpecialKS on December 28, 2012, 08:52:27 PM +0000 Short one for me too :( Woods demand their toll ::)
4.06 in free practice but only 4.14 in quali. So I made a last minute change concerning setup which seemed to be a right one. Had a PB of 4.05 in lap two despite some passing with John and Mike and finished that lap in 4th position. Had a turner then and lost some places but was able to set another new PB of 4.02 one or two laps later. The next lap I could pass Alex again and was getting closer to Tony when in lap 6 I made a slight mistake and went down into the woods - not far but impossible to rejoin the track - Tony joined me down there a lap later ??? Disappointing finish of this year's races. However - thanks for organizing to UKGTL staff. Looking forward to next season - hopefully a little bit more successfull. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 28, 2012, 10:44:58 PM +0000 I tried to help Kurt get out of his trap and got caught myself.
Fantastic race to watch though. Love seeing those old cars drifting through the turns. Thanks guys, great entertainment, especially the fight between John and GT. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 28, 2012, 11:13:10 PM +0000 Replay and results now posted.
Can mcgr please add his nationality to his profile please. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 28, 2012, 11:14:22 PM +0000 Didn't last long, think I managed to hit the straw bales on the pit exit area at the start - apologies to anyone affected. Had a pit stop for repairs but spent too much time behind the scenery. Came off had a long reverse through a tree lined area, managed to rejoin but didn't get warning of wrong direction this time, even though didn't recognise where I was. Quit so as not to risk driving in wrong direction with blind brows and corners. Nice to see you back BillTitle: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: SpecialKS on December 29, 2012, 09:10:06 AM +0000 I tried to help Kurt get out of his trap and got caught myself. :'( oh no - I'm so sorry - anyway thanks for your good intentions :) Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: goldtop on December 29, 2012, 10:21:09 AM +0000 These enduros can be a bit dull at times, but last night's event was far from that. The various strategies demanded by the different cars meant that part of my brain was occupied trying to compute pace of those around me, while the other was busy keeping the merc on track.
A fantastic early race duel with Mark saw us swapping places several times before I made a mess of T1....twice :wetfish:. Then around 50 minutes in I realised that I might still be in with a shout when I saw Mark and John in the pits. By this time Ross was well up the road and looked like he was also on a 1 stopper so 2nd was the best I could hope for. As the race played out it seemed that Mark had hit problems and I was left with John 30 seconds behind and chasing me down at the rate of a couple of seconds per lap. with 3 or 4 laps to go I had a small excursion on the back straight losing 10 seconds and adding to the excitement :o Had to push very hard after that until I was left with a more comfortable 5 seconds cushion for the last lap :sweatdrop: Congrats to Ross on a dominant drive :notworthy: and well done to all that raced. Got to mention Jules here who stuck at it after having a big off on lap one. We'd practised a lot together for this, so it was great to see him finish....he really enjoyed it too. Thanks for all your efforts this year Tony, it is much appreciated. Me and Jules hope to be doing a lot more GTL and PnG in 2013. HNY to all. :jumpjoy: Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: BillThomas on December 29, 2012, 11:00:06 AM +0000 Didn't last long, think I managed to hit the straw bales on the pit exit area at the start - apologies to anyone affected. Had a pit stop for repairs but spent too much time behind the scenery. Came off had a long reverse through a tree lined area, managed to rejoin but didn't get warning of wrong direction this time, even though didn't recognise where I was. Quit so as not to risk driving in wrong direction with blind brows and corners. Nice to see you back BillThanks Tony. :thumbup1: Wife's cataract op successful, treatment complete, sight fantastic. Hopefully, I'll be back to normal now - fighting hard for last finisher. :devil: :rockon: Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Jules™ on December 29, 2012, 01:26:14 PM +0000 Great Endurance, thank you Tony for putting the race on, and congrats to Ross Hawkey.
Thought I was out on the first lap, but managed to get up the hill back onto the track. From then on I enjoyed trying to catch up with main feild. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: M Cinderby on December 29, 2012, 01:53:24 PM +0000 :) I have only one thing to say..........I must practise more and check out all the cars before committing to the insane Ferrari 250. I spent to much time on that bloody "World Of Tanks".
(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/ferrari-testa-rossa_zps6c531cf3.jpg) :) Anyways Qualified a good P2 on 3.58 but 3 seconds off Ross whom was mega fast in the correct car for the job.........One that corners!!! ;) I had to crank the diff up to 30 - 100 to make the Ferrari turn in and this worked great in the early laps but as soon as the tyres get a bit worn you start having trips into the woods, lake and worst of all hay bails with bollards hidding in them!! :o I had a really great time racing Goldtop up to lap 13 when I hit the hay-bollard and ripped my front wheel off. :-\ Ground the car back to the pits for a strip & rebuild but on returning to the track found the set up had changed. The thing had no top end down the straights and I was lapping around 7 seconds slower per lap.....Soul destroying..........Still if I start a race I generally like to finish it, so started playing at power slidding. As expected the rear tyres were not happy about this but it was entertaining and kept me awake. ;D Had to make a splash and dash before the finish and still nearly ran out of fuel...........THE END. ;D Thanks for organising a great event Tony I really like this track much better than that nasty Norbert Ring........Happy New Year everyone. ;) Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 29, 2012, 05:36:22 PM +0000 Great Endurance, thank you Tony for putting the race on, and congrats to Ross Hawkey. Congrats to you Jules for successfully finishing your 1st Enduro event.Thought I was out on the first lap, but managed to get up the hill back onto the track. From then on I enjoyed trying to catch up with main feild. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 29, 2012, 05:44:16 PM +0000 During qually I had flashing screens showing mcgr and Johnw loading. So I re-downloaded the entire car set and re-installed them. This fixed Johnw for me but I couldn't stop mcgr from giving me the loading screen. Also his car showed to me as a Merc? Didn't ruin my short race tho.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Ross Hawkey on December 29, 2012, 07:36:08 PM +0000 2.4 hours went by pretty quickly, and though I was up front, with the 'unknown' element of the pit stop strategy, I wasn't really sure how it'd pan out.
The Maserati did seem to have a big advantage in sector 1 (as long as I could carry the momentum through the fast kinks), but the last 3rd of the lap (which involved slowing down, and turning corners :o ) the pace was much more balanced. When I saw others pit after 12 laps, I really didn't know if I'd last to the 18 laps needed, as tyre grip was really falling away. Luckily it did last, and once I'd got to 1/2 way and filled up, I figured all would be ok. Then with 2 or 3 laps to go, I made a mistake in sector 2 at the bottom of the hill, and went well off track. Was worried I may not get back up the embankment, but luckily I did, and made the flag ok. I've won in the Maserati at Spa and now Solitude, but think if I had to drive it against the Testarossa at a track that involved corners etc, then it'd be a very different story. I did read that a new GTL'55 Ferrari is coming to the mod soon http://www.virtualr.net/lm55-mod-for-gt-legends-new-ferrari-previews . Maybe it'll have a bit more grunt for the straights? (http://www.virtualr.net/wp-content/gallery/3750/Bild5.jpg) Either way, this mod is fantastic, and whilst the mod developer is still adding cars, it's only going to get better :-). Well done all, and see you soon, Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 29, 2012, 08:19:11 PM +0000 Nice pictures chaps
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Alex vV on December 29, 2012, 09:46:21 PM +0000 Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/GTL/GTLegends_solitude_64_2012_12_28_20_2/) The car-track-2,5 hour racing combo was a bit too much for me I guess. After several major offs (partly due to the fact that I miscalculated fuel usage) the race ended in the woods for me which I couldn't get out of. DNF should read 'Stuck in shrubbery'. Fitting end for a race where I made all the rookie endurance mistakes :wetfish: Had a lovely battle at the beginning with Tony tho. Congrats to all who finished! Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: johnw on December 29, 2012, 10:36:02 PM +0000 Grats to Ross for the dominant win and Goldtop for second place :thumbup1: This was a bit of a frustrating one for me, even though it didn't feel anywhere as long as the enduro last year. Got off to a bad start by trying to go round the outside of Goldtop at one of the fast corners and put a wheel on the grass. That put me out of contention for the podium for most of the race, and the two other mistakes where I ended up on my roof didn't help either >:(
The D-type was capable of some good pace but the tyres were awful after a few laps, don't know if it was the same for any of the other cars. I was planning on doing a one-stop but after 10 laps decided to change to two stops for fuel & tyres. I think it would still have been quicker on balance to stick with one stop, but wouldn't have been fun babying it round for half the race. The last stint was fun trying to chase Goldtop down, but the closer I got the more the tyres were going off and in the end GT drove well and I didn't quite make it in time. Well done all finishers and apologies to Alex for spinning him :( Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Alex vV on December 29, 2012, 10:43:30 PM +0000 Well done all finishers and apologies to Alex for spinning him :( It was not your fault. I was trying to give you some room to pass on the bridge section but the back got out of shape. Caused me to swerve all over the road. Rear tyres were indeed a challenge after 5-7 laps. Mine were down to 27 wear when you tried to lap me. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: goldtop on December 30, 2012, 12:14:50 AM +0000 Tyres were good for me, but then I'm always good on tyres. I had planned to change them mid race, but when I pitted I was surprised to see them only showing approx 7 wear on xd so decided to keep them. I think I managed to get my fastest time 2 or 3 laps from the end when I had to push hard.
The brakes were a different matter entirely and I was never sure where I'd slow down enough to get turned in. On the whole the merc was a nice drive, except for being snail-like out of the slow bends because of the gearing.....2nd too long and 1st too short ::) I only briefly tried the other cars so had no idea of their longevity. Looking forward to the series in the new year 8) Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Solitude - Dec 28 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 30, 2012, 12:37:34 AM +0000 For me it's the tyre wear physics that make this mod a bit special. They will wear quicker than the more modern compounds of the 60's and 70's that I suppose we are all more used to. If you look at 50's races on DVD they were always pitting for fuel and tyres.
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