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Title: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Cookie on April 18, 2016, 06:05:09 PM +0100
CanAm 66 Funrace at the Nürburgring

To have some fun with the new cars GPL has, we will do a little Friday series with the CANM66 mod.

Call me crazy...

We move to Germany to race at the legendary Nürburgring - Nordschleife. Since its construction (1925 - 1927), the Nordschleife has enjoyed a reputation as a terrifying and merciless route through the Eifel forests. An English journalist who visited the Nordschleife during the opening race on 18 June 1927 even concluded “that it seemed as if a reeling, drunken giant had been sent out to determine the route”. The Formula 1 pilot Sir John Young Jackie Stewart – after all a three-time world champion in 1969, 1971 and 1973 – was so impressed by the circuit that he gave it the name which it will probably never lose: Green Hell (Grüne Hölle).
Racing and winning on the Nordschleife has always been very special for racing drivers, because the track is one of the most demanding in the world. Tricky corners, treacherous crests, steep inclines and gradients and constantly changing road surfaces demand great skill from the driver and put vehicles to a hard test.


Free car choice and no restrictions, but try to drive like gentlemen and let's all have fun!


Race listiGOR
ServerUKGPL_8
IP addresslook at IGOR
Date22-04-2016
TrackNürburgring Papy
ModCANM66 with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage INT long
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying ~45 minutes, starting ~ 20:45 UK time
Race length6 laps
Replay here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/Archive/Season30/FunRaces/)


GLA and have FUN


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Mark Jones on April 19, 2016, 10:58:59 AM +0100
Call me crazy...

Man, you crazy.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Gareth on April 19, 2016, 12:34:17 PM +0100
"CanAm" and "Nuerburgring" should not be in the same sentence lol  :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Tom van Ostade on April 20, 2016, 02:21:58 PM +0100
Here's a Lola T70 Chevrolet 359 setup I made:

http://www.grandprixlegends.co.nf/files/TvO_nurburg_T70_Chevy_359.kd1

Place it in your player setup folder. In my case, it was C:\Sierra\GPL\players\van_Ostade__TommieCA66\setups\nurburg


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Rainier on April 20, 2016, 02:48:34 PM +0100
"CanAm" and "Nuerburgring" should not be in the same sentence lol  :o

During 1000 km of Nurburgring in 1967, the Chapparal 2F (which seems to be the closed version of the 2E) had, from far, the best time on the starting grid (8 seconds quicker than the Lola 2nd on the gris).
Unfortunately, it DNF due to gearbox troubles.


Tom, I really appreciate your Canm66 setups.
Did you also make some setups for F1's 1966 ? I am looking for these kind of setups !  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Cookie on April 20, 2016, 04:19:51 PM +0100
In 1966 the Chapparal MK2D won the 1000km!
The sensation was for the europeans that it was a car with a semi automatic gearbox.

In 1967 the MK2F was even more sensational for us with his big wing.
I was doing 1:24 slot racing at that time and bought a very rare Chap 2F lexan body with a wing.
This car was such aerodynamic superior that I won the regional championship (30 of 32 heats!)

This is my Chap E setup (https://www.sendspace.com/file/dz5zdw) for the Nürburgring  ;)


PS
in August 1967 Volkswagen brought their first semi automatic Beetle!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Rainier on April 20, 2016, 08:01:06 PM +0100
There was also a Chaparral 2F at the start of Targa Florio 1967.
The sicilian "track" is even more difficult than the N'Ring!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Tom van Ostade on April 21, 2016, 01:08:30 PM +0100
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Tom, I really appreciate your Canm66 setups.
Did you also make some setups for F1's 1966 ? I am looking for these kind of setups !  

For 1966 I usually start out with a Greger Huttu ('GH' or 'GH2') 1967 setup. The 1966 cars have less grip and are more oversteery, so I increase the front roll bar by about 100 (metric) and increase the rear toe-in to about 0.600 (metric). Don't forget to pump up the tires to match the default setup's values!

I seem to have this setup for the Brabham BT19 for Kyalami that I've put online once, you could try it out :) .

http://grandprixlegends.co.nf/files/TvO_GH2_Kya11859_FF_BT19.bb1

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Tom van Ostade on April 21, 2016, 01:12:53 PM +0100
In 1966 the Chapparal MK2D won the 1000km!
The sensation was for the europeans that it was a car with a semi automatic gearbox.

In 1967 the MK2F was even more sensational for us with his big wing.
I was doing 1:24 slot racing at that time and bought a very rare Chap 2F lexan body with a wing.
This car was such aerodynamic superior that I won the regional championship (30 of 32 heats!)

This is my Chap E setup (https://www.sendspace.com/file/dz5zdw) for the Nürburgring  ;)


PS
in August 1967 Volkswagen brought their first semi automatic Beetle!


Thank you for the setup!

Crazy that Chaparral went so well at the Nürburgring. In 1966 they had the nimble 2D with the small block Chevy like we have in the Can-Am 2E, and in 1967 they had the heavy big block Chevy, but that wing to give the grip despite the weight. I think the Targa was too slow for them, too heavy, no downforce and not enough gears.

Tommie.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Tom van Ostade on April 22, 2016, 07:22:11 PM +0100
Something has come up so I'm unable to participate. Good luck to all at the 'Ring!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Walter Conn on April 22, 2016, 10:45:43 PM +0100
I chose the small block Ford with a default set-up apart from having too much fuel and a quicker steering ratio. I started the race from pit lane. This car was a true joy to drive. I suspect the default gearing saved me from spinning the wheels too much. I drove very consistently in the first few laps, but then I made too many mistakes in the last half of the race. This car was good luck because it was always easy to recover from my mistakes. I really was marveling over the new physics. Nice work 66 CA team.

Good race,
WC


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Iestyn Davies on April 22, 2016, 10:48:36 PM +0100
That was an absolute white knuckle ride :o! So brutal.. I should try Nurburgring again in the faster mods, now that I can lap the place with some speed.

I should have ran the big block Lola, but wanted to try Tommie's setup. Lesson learned, that's the craziest combo I've driven in GPL :wacko:

The laps felt so fast - it was actually refreshing just to cruise a bit, on laps 3-5. I don't want to know how fast the 69 or CA71 laps feel right now :cursing:

This just in the sim.. IRL - total Gruene Hoelle! :surrender:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Mark Jones on April 23, 2016, 01:08:13 AM +0100
Well, that was pretty frustrating for me.  Tried to have a go with the M1B but it's just not drivable.  Reverted to the Genie which is a bit easier to drive, but many spins and mistakes made for a grim drive.  meh.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Rainier on April 23, 2016, 09:26:36 AM +0100
For 1966 I usually start out with a Greger Huttu ('GH' or 'GH2') 1967 setup. The 1966 cars have less grip and are more oversteery, so I increase the front roll bar by about 100 (metric) and increase the rear toe-in to about 0.600 (metric). Don't forget to pump up the tires to match the default setup's values!

I seem to have this setup for the Brabham BT19 for Kyalami that I've put online once, you could try it out :) .


Tommie.

Thanks for the setup, Tommie !

I will try it asap ;)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: Cookie on April 23, 2016, 11:13:08 AM +0100
UKGPL3 is not available atm!

Get the replay here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/3u6mta)  ;)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: maddog on April 23, 2016, 11:48:05 AM +0100
100 years ago, my Grandfather raced on the high banks of Brooklands.  During our race, I discovered how to race around the high banks of Nurburgring.  They don't normally see much use, as they're cleverly painted green, to avoid detection by those without the heritage, breeding, and desperation to use them!  ::)

My main race interest, was with a Lesser White Whale, which 2 times came fishing for my tail.  I was reeled in twice, but managed to escape by floundering less.  It's hard work, but rewarding work, to haul these semi-tamed animals around the high banks of The Nurb.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 30 FUN - CanAm66 - Nuerburgring - Apr 22
Post by: GregT on April 23, 2016, 02:58:46 PM +0100
Congrats Iestyn and Martin! That was an awesome drive by Iestyn. A 24 second lead over Iestyn after lap 1, still probably wasn't enough to win even if I hadn't made mistakes.

What an adventure. I didn't know what race, if any, would be run until a few minutes before qualifying started. I loaded a Laguna Seca setup I had been developing. It was the only setup I had with additional ride height. I applied a couple clicks on the differential to get the gearing closer. Unfortunately, I didn't notice the assymetrical cambers. The gearing was still too short.

After 1 lap I adjusted the differential some more so I wasn't limited to 180mph on the straight. After spins and wrecks on my first lap I couldn't trust that my tire readings had any useful information. My second lap was cleaner. My top speed was still limited to 185mph but I was able to get useful tire readings. That's when I realized my cambers were terrible for this track. Luckily, I got the car set up decent before the race started.

I did some things I haven't done in while. In qualifying I downshifted into reverse once. :) And I clipped the tree exiting Adenauer. I was also very nervous for the start. No starting practice and carrying 22 gallons of fuel made me think, this could be very ugly. Luckily after full opposite lock and a huge slide in T1, I was able to calm down.

Lap 1 was pretty good. Lap 2 was looking to be real good until I had a major crash at Antoniusbuche. I thought I damaged the suspension but not enough to reset. Soon after I began thinking the engine was down on power. It wasn't until the end of sector 1 I was sure it was ailing. Cold tires and full fuel assured I wouldn't pressure Iestyn. Later I suspected Iestyn was waiting for me at times plus he made some minor mistakes that kept me somewhat close. He was laying down some incredible black marks at times. I had to be careful not to marvel at them instead of driving. :)

Yes, you are crazy Axel. But you did give me a good opportunity to stand by my plan of learning to drive the fastest McLaren first, just like I did with the 71's. With this difficult circuit, I was tempted to take a lower powered car.

Iestyn had me shocked with 8:02 on lap 2. But at that point I thought he was driving the big block Lola. I couldn't believe he was that fast. With the bog block I didn't expect him to be much, if any, faster than me. I was relieved after the race was over to see he was in Surtees's Lola. That made his times seem more realistic.

Thanks guys. I appreciate the fun.