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Season 37 F1 SPRINT – Round 10 –  MONZA 10K  
Our final race is held at Monza 10K.
Monza the hard way...


Server = UKGPL_10
IP = 217.155.118.41
Race date = Sunday 06-12-2020
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)

Track :

Monza 10K

Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=9323%20%20%20http://www.dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/monza10k/)

Race length = 20 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Replay =  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/3ai498)


Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1152&theme=6)
Please check the Season 37 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1102&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1967 F1 Sprint Championship pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1152&theme=6) in particular.

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

"Works" drivers are not allowed any resets.
"Privateer" drivers are allowed a maximum of one reset with a compulsory Stop & Go within two laps.
Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.
Only reported incidents will be moderated.

The chassis token system is explained on the championship standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Works drivers are :
Angex
Bagrupp
Doni Yourth
Pepe Higdon
Ricardo Da Silva
Dulima
Phil Thornton
Baab
MagicArsouille
Arf Arf Arf
Gareth
Iestyn Davies
DuFossa
Markus Friedrich
Syd Drake
Lalb2001

Privateers drivers are :
Albert Hallu
Billy Nobrakes
Dave Curtis
David Sochenna
PaulV
Francesco Molteni
Bernie Darwin
karliss
Daniel_San
Badblood
Maestro57

Are we using Monza 10K or Monza with chicanes ?

that would be Monza 1000km  ;)

Monza10k (see link)

Maybe, I used a wrong comment at the begin of the post ...

Yes, that was a bit ambiguous,
the 10k was last used in 1965 for F1,
for the world championship of sports cars and prototypes the chicanes were built in 1967

But I love it - 96% full throttle

I have some troubles with my pedals (G27). It started a few days ago and today it really became just horrible. My throttle has a lot of spiking. Today I was 4s slower as the car just does not accelerate anymore. Why must it happen at such a track:
I will try to clean the Pontentiometers tomorrow. From what I have read this should solve the issue. Not sure if I am able to do it or if I will just break the pedals. I hope I can make it to the race on Sunday.

I had a similar problem with my G25. I sprayed the potentiometers with this (https://cpc.farnell.com/servisol/100001300-200ml/super-10-200ml-switch-contact/dp/SASERVISOL?mckv=s7amMFuxK_dc|pcrid|224653462065|kword||match||plid||slid||product|SASERVISOL|pgrid|47398149059|ptaid|pla-902692058600|&CMP=KNC-GUK-CPC-SHOPPING&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2af-BRDzARIsAIVQUOcjl1vckKCeNqHM46BHz9tnlKwm1ZNpZ-m5ogb2K3ebI7_0fe35GmwaAnUYEALw_wcB) stuff and it helped. Hopefully something similar is available locally. I'm pretty handy with a soldering iron but I didn't want to start pulling the pedals to bits if I didn't have to.

I've since changed to a Thrustmaster wheel and pedals which use Hall Effect devices so I shouldn't any similar problems in future.

Hope you get it sorted by Sunday Markus  :)

Just to say that with my aging G25 pedals, I got away with opening the case & spraying some contact cleaner into a gap in the pots.  (I didn't do it properly by removing them; splitting them open & wiping clean).

It did buy me another couple of years before having to do the same again.

Enjoy your weekend!

EDIT: Now seen Phil's reply.  I also used Super 10 (although other cleaners are available of course!)

Phil & Dave, thanks for your advice! I also just sprayed the pots without removing them and splitting them open. So that made it easier.
However, it turned out to become quite a thriller in the end. After doing so the pedals did not work anymore. When I re-opened the case I saw the massacre.  One of the screws must have cut one of the cables while screwing it in in order to put the case together. It was a bit clumsy to be honest as I felt a little resistance. So I went to a local electronics store to buy a luster terminal. With it was able to reconnect the cable and now it seems the pedals work again, also without any spiking so far.

So see you this evening in Monza!  :)

Great news  :)

I hope so but I'll most likely just see your tailpipes dissapearing in the distance  ::)

This was my solution and they are still working correctly and have never been cleaned.
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13203.0

Seems a popular problem atm MS wants to play with us...

My W10 and W7 PCs suddenly have strange rotation angles wit G27!

I opened a thread at SRMZ about it http://srmz.net/index.php?s=2c6a154cc7f92b32a5f694477b082fcd&showtopic=13838

Luckily my linux PCs are not affected!

Just knew I'd get taken down but I thought I'd last more than 20 metres.  C'est la vie...

I share your pain, Doni. Molteni couldn't hold his line near the overpass on L1 and banged into Eduardo. They both spun, catching the Honda and me up in this stupid, utterly avoidable mess. Naturally, Molteni was able to continue (as was Eduardo, though probably so badly damaged he'll be uncompetitive), but the Honda and I through no fault of our own had the usual retirement inside one minute of racing.

If I'd knocked out two cars on the first lap and damaged another through my own incompetence, I'd have retired my car on the spot.

Well, chances are you'd have been wiped out along with 4/5 other people half way round the lap, sadly Doni. I wasn't a victim of it, but probably yet again because I qualified well. Just like at Zeltweg there was suddenly so much air behind me it was unnerving - looks like Fran crashed into Dulima entering Vialone/Ascari and caused absolute chaos. Poor Dulima actually survived the melee but got taken out by a backmarker who came round the very fast left and didn't really have anywhere to go. I was happy to sit in P3, didn't think I had the pace for the two in front of me. Sadly one of them over committed to Parabolica and I crashed in sympathy, but lost a wheel doing so...

That's 2 solid P3s in a row I have lost...

I too got caught up in the L1 chaos.  With cars scattered all over the place I backed-off and kept a tight line and almost made it though but at the last second Phil, who was going a lot slower at this point, drove across the track to avoid a crashed car and I couldn't avoid him.  This ended both our races.  Sorry for hitting you Phil.

Thanks for the racing this season, it's been great!  Have a good Christmas everyone, probably see you soon.

Sorry to see you out so soon Doni , I had made a slow start and got away late , you pulled out to pass me but then decided for whatever reason to turn in on me and collide with my Eagle !
Hope you didn't scratch your BRM paint job too much on my specially fitted Monzaroo bar .

For the rest of my short race I clobbered a stationary car in the multi pile and lost more time but was able to catch up to the tail enders , then later got taken out by Dave in the Lesmo's after he had finished rail riding.
That ruined my paint job so much I decided to go hide away in disgust behind the barriers  ::)

It wasn't your fault Bob, I had slowed a lot trying to pick my way through the carnage. I managed to weave my way through about 4 cars and thought I'd made it. Not a good way to finish a great season.

Sorry but from my replay i was on my line.

My best result this season, a 5th place.
I qualified 4th and kept that place after the start. Going into parabolica an Eagle was on my tail. I locked up under braking, and my car started to swerve across the track, and the Eagle collected me. Racing incident, as I was losing control and he had nowhere to go. But to my surprise, 15 seconds later I was out of the sand and no cars were past me. Only when I started to accelerate a couple cars went by. So I knew something big must have happened behind. Then lap 2 or 3 going into parabolica again I thought I saw two cars colliding, and I braked too much trying to avoid the incident, locked up again, and into sand we go. This time, after another 15 seconds out, a few more cars went by and I was down to 10th. After this I started to brake early for parabolica. I passed a couple of cars on the track, and passed by at least one accident and I was back to 7th. I caught up to two Eagles, when they did a synchronized spin going into lemos 1. Not sure there was contact. I slowed down, went by one of the eagles, but the other stayed ahead. This was Dulima, and we stayed at about 1 second distance between us for the rest of the race, around 15 laps. At some point our 5-6 positions became 4-5 positions. I was losing a little bit under braking for parabolica what with my ptsd from that corner :) but I felt Dulima was also losing a little going into lesmos 1, so he couldn't brake my tow. We had such a good time we kept going on the slowdown lap :) This time I even got a good run going into parabolica and tried to outbrake him which resulted in another spin into the sand :) Good thing I was going so carefully there in the laps that counted :)
Congrats to podium, and great race long fight Dulima.

Server replay available from:  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/3ai498)
Also added to event details page.

I was that guy; having already made a mistake at Lesmo 1 I tried too hard to catch back up to Ricardo and just missed my braking point ever so slightly, causing me to overreact and lock my wheels. Then I thought great, that's another position lost that I probably can't catch back up, suddenly I hear the sound of gravel, look at pribluda, see Arf 18m behind, look in my mirror and see your car with just 3 wheels... Sad because unlike you felt, your pace was great and had I caught back up to the flying Eagle, you could maybe have entered the battle for the lead if we battled hard in the slow part of the track; that would have been the only place to take the lead because the Eagle was so damn superior on the straights.

As for my race weekend, Quali went good, but I went for only one qualifying run because of real life. Shame, because I would have needed that extra practice because my only practice were 20 minutes on the server beforehand, so I was a bit less coordinated through the actual track part than I would have liked. Still P2, on a good lap I could have come close to pole, but well... I was really satisfied to have made the Tifosi proud without any kind of slipstream.
I was quite anxious to have to go side-by-side into the first corner, but gladly that didn't happen. The race started off with... A surprising/unsurprising (pick your answer yourself) massive crash behind me. I was of course a bit sad for the runners, but all the Eagles had suddenly fallen out of reaching distance which was very relieving to say the least. The opening laps consisted of a solid chase after Ricardo who unsurprisingly had the edge over me on the straights, but I was superior through the corners and put him under constant pressure, yet I didn't manage to overtake him even once. He didn't crumble, no, but I was the one who did. Locking tyres into Lesmo 1, hitting the wall backwards with the exact rear of the car... Engine damage? No? Oof, that was very lucky. Training had shown me that you could loose a wheel here with such ease.
4 second gap to the leader, 1 or 2 laps later came the Parabolica overcommitment, another 11 seconds lost again. But somehow I got no damage again (perhaps I got some fans in heaven), and with Arf out of the race, that took some pressure off my shoulders.
Finally then, without pressure from behind and the persistent sight of an unovertakeable car, I got into a real groove and finally knew my exact braking spots, so I went and tried everything I could without overcommitting to somehow catch back up these 15 seconds as far as I could. But the second accident had dropped me back within 10 seconds of Bastian, so that was another reason not to take it easy. In the end I finished 9 seconds behind, having taken 6 seconds out of Ricardo I was quite proud of myself. Bastian though gained 2 seconds on me from the crash onwards until the finish line and took the fastest lap by just a few tenths as well. I wanted it, but the Ferrari didn't allow me to...
In the end I wish I had not overfuelled by 12-13 liters, but nonetheless I am very happy with P2 on my F1 Sprint debut.
A big thank you to all the participants who all had their share in making this a very enjoyable event, Congrats to Ricardo for the win and to Bastian for rounding out the podium places, and commiserations to everyone who did not make it to the finish line for various reasons. :(

Hopefully I will see you guys in the next season where I will try to participate as much as I can, whether in the Sprint or in the Grand Prix category is yet to be decided. Until then, have a good one! :)

Oh for sure, Bernie, I'm not going to blame you for my early exit.  After you seemed to stall out on the grid, I swept round you on the right and thought I'd cleared you to move left for a better view of things up ahead.  Well, that didn't work out, did it?  Sorry to involve you in my mistake.

Starting at the back, I feared a monster shunt at the Curva Grande on Lap01.  That was deferred to Ascari as it turned out.  Dear me...  :(

Grats to our podium finishers.  Grats to Markus on being our series champ.

Donni
Sadly things don't always turn out for the best , my first ever race start in the Eagle and I was sat on the grid watching the temp rise when the flag dropped , I let the clutch out with not enough rpm's to launch so for a moment I was going nowhere . But you, in the Beast of Bourne (which isn't exactly a rocket ship off the line ) got a good launch and had to swerve ouy to avoid the rear end (thanks for that )  ;)
Unfortunately, passing me coincided with 12 Weslake cylinders coming onto full chat just when you were alongside me (but uncited in mirrors )

So perhaps I should be taking some share of the blame , sorry you had to retire so soon and don't worry we can still be friends   :-* 

Until next time  ;D

Forgot to say congrats to Markus for the championship, and thanks to the mods for their work.

I liked the way things were organised this season, with the different lengths. I wish my eyes were up to the longer races but that's not going happen for me. I couldn't enter as many races as I'd like to, hope to get back to doing full seaons.

Merry Xmas/Bah Humbug  :D

Arf

Colin...

If it weren't for the product link I'm providing below and their drops I use a couple of hours before each major GPL event, I'd never start.  Otherwise, I'm blind as a bat.  Works wonders!

https://www.restasis.com/

What a shame i forgot the first races to join ;)

good race, sorry for the shunt Syd / Albert.
I was afraid i may had a bad connection but it really seemed you move around the track and i locked up then as well and could not avoid the touch.
Glad you both could go on from that point.

No one was near me afterwards and i just had to keep the concentration.

Thanks to Doni & Arth for the congratulations! And congrats to Ricardo for the win and Lasse & Bastian for the podium!
I was already hoping to battle with Bastian as he started only one place before me and we already had nice battles at Rouen and Solitude. But in the race you were much faster than in qualifying. Even without the lap one incident I would not have been able to keep your pace this time.

I had the best view of the incident that started after francesco and Dulima left the Lesmos. Dulima was able to pull alongside francesco's car and they headed towards Ascari side by side. When they arrived at the bridge Dulima run out of room on the right side and both crashed. I braked and avoided hitting anyone but when francesco's car bounced back on track I had to break again and my rear got a little loose. Shortly after I was hit by Pepe so my car turned around and allowed me to see many other cars flying over the track. Unfortunately this ended the race for many drivers including Bob with whom I still battled for the championship.
As Doni pointed out before: the racing gods are with me this season. Again my car was undamaged after an incident where in real life I would probably suffer from serious injuries.

After the first lap I was at the back trying to make up some positions. But that was not too easy with the Honda. Towards the end of the race I was able to overtake francesco's eagle when slip streaming towards the second banked turn of the oval part. Very fair, he did not try to block me and hold his line. Next lap I tried to do the same with Albert. Albert your car was hobbling and jumping on the track probably because of your internet connection? That made the situation much more difficult. Also your last move before the banked curve came very late when I was already about to go beside you. I was still able to back off and avoid hitting you. And you already changed your line several times before in order to break my draft. However, nothing happened. During the last lap I was able to accelerate smoothly out of Parabolica and overtake you. But you did not finish the last lap. I watched the replay and it looks like you slow down your car after my overtake and park it at the side of the track before you are gone from the replay. What happened to you?

To everyone, thanks for the racing this season! I enjoyed the league a lot. And thanks to the admins for taking care and keeping everything alive!

Grats to your championship. lets keep up the battles next season

I had a look at every car, one by one, during their first lap.

The incident between Francesco and Dulima (still under investigation) definitively stopped the race for Pepe, Phil and Bob  :-[ 

After this first incident, Dulima' car was hit by another car and rolled at list 7 times, sometimes on the safetyslide ...but he could continue without reset  :o :o
Never saw a car that strong  :)

Big congratulations to Albert Hallu, he started 17 and last on the grid but ended the first lap on position 4 !
I couldn't even calculate how many cars he had to avoid for that ...
I think he must be a very good ski slalom !  :thumbup2:

Doni, what did you on the start ?  :o

Save Accelerated!

I really don't know how I survived that accident, i thought my run was over

Unfortunately many pilots left there

I accelerated with the car and saw that it was normal, I decided to continue and had a really fun race

Drake and I had a great battle in the final laps

Regarding the touch between me and Francesco, the time I thought about taking my foot off to avoid disputing the curve, it was too late.

It was a racing incident, I stayed on my line, but unfortunately it took too many drivers

Let more fun races come next season

Congratulations Markus on the championship title

Baab for second place.

And a beautiful third place for my brother Doni, who was a warrior and achieved an important result, being very constant with your BRM

It was a great pleasure for me, sharing curves and being on the track with all of you

I love this simulator, I love our GPL family

We will always be together, my brothers!

Moderation posted

@Bob & Dulima
Thanks for the congratulations! And congrats to you Bob for second place. I remember you wrote you started to use cockpit view during the season and since then you became more consistent. The last race was bad luck for you. Unfortunately the lap one pile up ended our championship battle early. However, with the BRM at monza10k it would have been quite hard for you to score a lot of points.

I really loved Solitude. The flow is just great but it was also the toughest track this seasons. I spun at least twice during the race as I pushed really hard to get back to the top after my first corner mistake. At this track I struggled most to push without errors for a whole race length. Also in my practice race I spun.

My best race was in Rouen I think. I started third behind Bastian and Dulima and the three of us had a close fight until the finish line. None of us did a major mistake and it was an intense battle! I am looking forward to expirience more races like that one!