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Question: Which car will you take?
Gallardo - 3 (15.8%)
Panoz - 3 (15.8%)
F430 - 3 (15.8%)
997 RSR - 6 (31.6%)
996 RSR - 2 (10.5%)
M3 GTR - 1 (5.3%)
Seat Toledo - 1 (5.3%)
996 Bi-turbo - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 18

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  • UKGTR Sprint Test, Imola: November 25, 2008
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« Reply #60 on: November 25, 2008, 10:47:55 PM +0000 »

no worries ginsters made me chuckle really, thought you might of been in GTL mode  Smiley
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« Reply #61 on: November 25, 2008, 10:56:53 PM +0000 »

Did a few laps in the F430 and 997 and I think they're both faster than the RSR. Not sure about the GLambo or Panoz for speed yet.
Is that Imelda May SBG. Thought it was a while ago but that 'boom boom' below the pic has made me pose the question Grin
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« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2008, 07:57:53 AM +0000 »

dropped to 14th or so, fought my way back upto behind DG and then had a cracking race long chase after him for the rest of the race, with us always between 0.3 and 2 secs lap after lap.  Cool

Yeah, that was a cracking fight with the gap ebbing and flowing; the 997 wasn't quite as quick down the straights as the Lambo but it looked to be a whole chunk more predictable in the braking zones. The Gallardo feels very much like the 360s did - great balance most of the time but prone to catch you out under braking and ready to throw you off with any momentary lapse of concentration.

Sorry to Ade during qually - I was first out of the pits and then stupidly threw away the advantage by losing the car under braking for the first chicane. I thought the full field had past and rejoined only to suddenly have you swerving round me. Embarrassed

We eventually found ourselves in 10th and 11th but then with just a few laps remaining DG and Toche had contact ahead and i scampered through to 10th place and seemingly with that in the bag.....

Not sure if Toche and I actually touched - with you right behind I knew I had to get past quickly and I thought I just pinched the corner off a bit too hard and lost control. Pity that because it spoiled yet another great battle between us.



Toche, have you seen the Start Here fourm? In particular this post?

Here at SRou, sportsmanship and consistency are valued more highly than outright pace.

As a rule of thumb, you should be able to turn consistent laps within about 10% of the SRou lap record in whatever class you're driving, so that (for instance) if the SRou lap record for a track is 1 minute 40 seconds, if you can consistently do 1:50s or better without falling off the track every few laps you should be fine.

When joining your first races here, remember the old adage: first, drive the car. We see a lot of new drivers who immediately start 'overdriving', trying to match the times of far more experienced members. You will learn very little if you keep going off and you will make yourself very unpopular among the regulars. Instead, stick to a pace you can sustain.

Expect to get lapped in your first few races, often multiple times, especially in Endurance events. Don't panic! Be predictable - stick to your normal racing line, don't lock your brakes, and allow the faster car to work its way past. Whatever you do, don't lift off or even brake on a straight with another car right behind you!

Welcome to SRou and good luck!

I was watching you in qually and to be perfectly honest you aren't quite ready to race online - your racing lines aren't, er, racing lines and as a result your speed through the corners is massively compromised and it makes you very unpredictable. Luckily this was only a test race but you really need to spend a few days or evenings just working through the in-game lessons and then just lapping steadily at a few tracks smoothing those lines out and using the full width of the track. It'll soon start to come together with a little practice.



Although the new cars were clearly faster, it won't actually take much to peg them back; I had a few laps scrapping with JPS and the fight wasn't massively different from some of the scraps we had in Season 8 between his GT3-RS and my 360 Modena.
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« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2008, 08:08:56 AM +0000 »


Although the new cars were clearly faster, it won't actually take much to peg them back; I had a few laps scrapping with JPS and the fight wasn't massively different from some of the scraps we had in Season 8 between his GT3-RS and my 360 Modena.

why do we want to peg them back ?  The whole idea is to get the chance to race newer, faster and more exciting cars than we have got used to. I might as well stick with the 996 if thats what we are doing as it has far better cockpit graphics Sad

Whats the point of getting our hands on all these great mods then neutering them into clones of the old cars ?  yawn
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« Reply #64 on: November 26, 2008, 08:36:20 AM +0000 »

Let's not discourage the new guys, eh? Welcome Toche, Lazlow. Smiley  Just work on consistency and you'll do fine here.  Cool

Did any of you guys take soft tyres here? I had meds and they were worn at about 10, which is low, considering 40 minutes of punishing drive I had when I clawed up the field from 18th starting position (I had a freeze, had to restart my PC). I think softs could be used, though they'd be down towards the end.

New cars are faster, no doubt, by roughly a second. There's no way I could pass Leuven or Busi otherwise. Tongue   When you peg them down, do it so you preserve relation of F430 to 997. For the first time in GTR(1&2) I feel I can compete with the porker in my fezza.  Smiley

The biggest problem I saw with Gallardo and Panoz is overheating brakes. Cooling open to 5, 85% strenght and the brakes still went over 500'C at 20'C air temperature. Can something be done about that?

I had a great race, looking forward to the Championship.  Cool    

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« Reply #65 on: November 26, 2008, 09:00:12 AM +0000 »

Whats the point of getting our hands on all these great mods then neutering them into clones of the old cars ?  yawn

The whole point of add=on cars is creating a grid with more variety. If the new cars are clearly faster, nobody will pick the old ones, and we will we back at the beginning, around 5 cars to chose from. In real life those new cars are supposed to be faster than the old ones, but that's not what the simulate here. Every car is supposed to be equal.
So instead of slowing the new cars down, can't you take some weight off of the old cars. IIRC some had +30kg etc, would be better to get that closer to 0kg than to make the new cars heavier or lower powered. Just my 2 cents Smiley.
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« Reply #66 on: November 26, 2008, 11:52:16 AM +0000 »

So instead of slowing the new cars down, can't you take some weight off of the old cars. IIRC some had +30kg etc, would be better to get that closer to 0kg than to make the new cars heavier or lower powered. Just my 2 cents Smiley.

Like he said.   Smiley

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« Reply #67 on: November 26, 2008, 12:13:49 PM +0000 »

Don't think I added anything to the old vs new comparison with the Biturbo, struggling to even keep it on the track.  It did seem to have the legs on the 997RSR under acceleration but much less nimble on the apex.

Strangely, offline in race trim I was quicker in the BiTurbo (1:49.9) than the F430 (1:50.7) so there didn't seem that much difference old and new.

The great thing about a car like the current 997 (before tweaks), is that it enables a driver of my level  scooter to nearly hang onto somebody like Steve Holmes  I Am Not Worthy for numerous laps. So I had a really fun race (except for my slightly harsh 'stop n go'). Thanks all.

Ah, you've fallen into the trap of thinking my speed in GTL transfers to GTR2 - it doesn't  Tongue  Most people seem able to drive both relatively equally but I really carp in these cars.   Wink  With practice you'll be beating me easy.

I only struggle on, crashing constantly, 'cause they're some of my favourite real world race cars.  Smiley
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« Reply #68 on: November 26, 2008, 12:36:10 PM +0000 »

Ah, you've fallen into the trap of thinking my speed in GTL transfers to GTR2 - it doesn't  Tongue 

Lol, I'm the opposite.  lol   I can't drive those oldies.

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« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2008, 12:47:35 PM +0000 »

New vs Old ?

As said above the new cars are to help add variety and greater choice of cars in each class, so they should run comparable times with the 'older' stuff otherwise we end up with a 1 or 2 make series again.
The Seat has always been the 'lesser' of the available cars in GT2...how many times has it been used recently?
It looks to me like the 997 and 430 are going to be the popular choices as they are 'fastest'. The lambo is just as quick but a little more of a challenge to drive...(Ideal for some of the already fast/experienced folk).
As I see it, All cars available in class should be able to lap at similar times...the differences come in A: the handling characteristics. B: What you WANT to drive. C: Whether you want an 'easy' car or a more difficult one.
This way, the drivers championship would be more about the drivers abillity than the cars.
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« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2008, 01:02:49 PM +0000 »

Ah, you've fallen into the trap of thinking my speed in GTL transfers to GTR2 - it doesn't  Tongue 

Lol, I'm the opposite.  lol   I can't drive those oldies.

TT

Yeah, there are obviously some of us who are a bit specialized in the way we drive to drive everything well.  All adds to the fun and unpredictability.....you never know when I'll spin off a new car or TT will spin off an old car.   Grin

I'm sure there are several other people who feel similarly. Just makes us jealous of those who can drive both.  Cool
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« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2008, 01:09:31 PM +0000 »

Hi Guys,

Sorry for my lack of experience. Many thanks for the comments they are very useful and indeed, I need more practice and driving exercises during training session.

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« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2008, 01:22:30 PM +0000 »

Sorry for my lack of experience. Many thanks for the comments they are very useful and indeed, I need more practice and driving exercises during training session.

You'll be surprised how fast it will start to click after a few hours of practice - I remember at the start of Season 7 when I seemed to be lapping Ade in another gravel trap every other lap and now the cheeky sausage is beating me with alarming regularity. Cheesy
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« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2008, 01:56:02 PM +0000 »

Downloading other peoples laps when using the 'Time Trial' feature has helped me get from 'newbie' to 'ordinary' quite quickly, also the driving school was more helpful then it might sound for the standard game tracks. I've used that a lot too.

But you'll get better with experience & I'm sure you probably learnt a lot last night. So well done on your 1st race. Smiley
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« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2008, 04:39:16 PM +0000 »

I'm going to make sure I spend more time on set up before joining a race...my car felt like an old 1970's Cadillac, not ideal for driving safely round corners  Smiley
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