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Title: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Rainier on November 18, 2020, 09:48:13 AM +0000
Season 37 F1 SPRINT – Round 9 –  ZELTWEG  
For the next round of the season 37 we are going to Zeltweg in Austria, a great track these days...

Server = UKGPL_10
IP = 217.155.118.41
Race date = Sunday 22-11-2020
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track :  
Zeltweg 1971
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=5256)
Race length = 27 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes
Replay =  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/304lsx)


Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1152&theme=6)
Please check the Season 37 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1102&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1967 F1 Sprint Championship pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1152&theme=6) in particular.

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

"Works" drivers are not allowed any resets.
"Privateer" drivers are allowed a maximum of one reset with a compulsory Stop & Go within two laps.
Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.
Only reported incidents will be moderated.

The chassis token system is explained on the championship standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Works drivers are :
Angex
Bagrupp
Doni Yourth
Pepe Higdon
Ricardo Da Silva
Dulima
Phil Thornton
Baab
MagicArsouille
Arf Arf Arf
Gareth
Iestyn Davies
DuFossa
Markus Friedrich
Syd Drake



Privateers drivers are :
Albert Hallu
Billy Nobrakes
Dave Curtis
David Sochenna
PaulV
Francesco Molteni
Bernie Darwin
karliss
Daniel_San
Badblood
Maestro57


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Dulima on November 22, 2020, 12:58:21 AM +0000
Save Accelerated!

Phill, I'm sorry to be writing around here, I didn't know where to express myself

I was checking my tokens and there was an error.

In Solitude, I went wrong with Brabham, I just realized the time I accelerated. Immediately, I went out and got the BRM.

And I ran from BRM, unfortunately I ended up hitting. And in the race, it was computed that I used Brabham.

I will use Lotus tomorrow and Eagle in Monza 10K, I already had my strategy ready and only now I realized this error.

You can check the replay of the race, I used BRM.

Thank you brother, I'm waiting for the answer


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Rainier on November 22, 2020, 09:10:35 AM +0000
Eduardo

If I'm not mistaken, you have 22 tokens at this moment.

If you choose Lotus for Zeltweg race, at the end of the race you'll have 22+10-20 = 12 tokens

Then if you choose Eagle for Monza, you'll have enough tokens.
At the start, it will be 12+10 > 17     

Maybe, Phil could confirm ...or not ! 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Cookie on November 22, 2020, 10:02:32 AM +0000
But if his Solitude is counted as Braby and not BRM he has +10

@Dulima

these tokens are generated by the database system of UKGPL itself, not by a human ;)

Just list your cars and tokens you drove yet so it's easy to prove


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Rainier on November 22, 2020, 10:17:23 AM +0000
But if his Solitude is counted as Braby and not BRM he has +10


Solitude has been counted as BRM for Dulima.
I can't see any problem.

After every race, I check the token numbers for each driver.

For Dulima :

Kyalami - Brabham so  10+10-10 = 10 at the end of the race
Buenos Aires - Cooper  10+10-5 = 15
Mosport - Brabham      15+10-10 = 15
Nassau - Honda           15+10-3 = 22
Rouen - Lotus              22+10-20 = 12
Wiesbaden - BRM        12+10-0 = 22
Solitude - BRM       22+10-0 = 32
Mexico - Lotus            32+10-20 = 22





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Phil Thornton on November 22, 2020, 10:59:52 AM +0000
Hovering the mouse over the driver's points total in the championship table shows the number of tokens. This doesn't work on a mobile phone so I can't check until I switch my computer on.

However, as Axel has said, (for the 67F1) the calculation is done automatically by  the web site not manually by a moderator. So I doubt there is a mistake, the web site has never been wrong in my experience.

At Solitude whilst Dulima joined with the Brabham and it is listed on the results table (it is easy to remove this to prevent any confusion) the website only takes into account the car the driver crossed the start line in, in this case the BRM.

David's calculation confirms the website is correct.

So Eduardo you have enough tokens to take the Lotus and the Eagle for the last 2 races as David has said. Good luck in the race  tonight :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Dulima on November 22, 2020, 07:30:12 PM +0000
Thanks Phill, Rannier and Cookie, for being so kind to me

We are together

See you soon

Good run everyone!

GPL in vein, forever!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on November 22, 2020, 09:37:20 PM +0000
Braked  slightly to avoid other cars, span into the armco & lost a wheel. Pressed Escape instead of Shift R. What an idiot.
Hope everyone else has better luck


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: bagrupp on November 22, 2020, 09:51:01 PM +0000
sorry doni at the start i tried to avoid a car on the inside gras coming back and there was you. it was too much avoiding him.

The car was to instable all in all. second error it took me upside down.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on November 22, 2020, 09:58:04 PM +0000
Well, that was a new one for GPL. My monitor suddenly switched off - never had that before... it came back straight after I had escaped to the pits, but no idea what happened to the car after I lost the ability to steer it. Such a shame, that was a safe P3 at worst. Don't know what happened on L1 but it was clear that Dulima, Phil and I were in our own race, as we were keeping the same pace as those behind us.

The number of anti-virus messages that have come up as I have typed this might suggest what has occurred...

Bugger


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: BadBlood on November 22, 2020, 10:33:40 PM +0000
So much fun. I love this track and always have good racing here

I threaded my way through the inevitable lap 1 pile ups (although I did have a scrape at the first corner which is going to be moderated...) and ended up something like eighth but smugness set in and I went too wide on the ostkurve, caught some grass, span and hit somebody (Doni I think) sorry.

After that some battles with Albert - I was catching him but managed to spin all by myself :( Then Fran and I had a few laps but Fran suddenly disappeared - don't think I did anything untoward but...

Fran, of course, caught me but at the same time as the leaders, I hoped they might drag me back up to him and I found myself with a faceful of Ferrari pipes. Couldn't hold on though. Couldn't believe there were only 6 laps to go.

I was struggling throughout with sky high temps on my left front - all the others were cold... can't seem to get a driveable set up that actually warms the tyres. Odd about the left front because I didn't see that in practice at all.

Any tips on how to balance the set up to save that left front?

Feeling ridiculously pleased not to get lapped by more than the front four... small steps. Got my fastest lap on the last one too.
Enjoyed the race and was glad to see the flag. Race flew by


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: BadBlood on November 22, 2020, 10:35:33 PM +0000
sorry doni at the start i tried to avoid a car on the inside gras coming back and there was you. it was too much avoiding him.

The car was to instable all in all. second error it took me upside down.

That was me I think. So sorry. I was a passenger at that point.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Phil Thornton on November 22, 2020, 10:35:52 PM +0000
I'll have to look at the replay in case I was in any incidents but that was my best drive in the 67F1s for a long time (certainly this season). Grats to Dulima (Eduardo) on a solid win, I tried hard to catch you but you were too quick and it seemed as if you always had something in reserve. The chase was over when I clipped the grass and spun at Dr Tiroch Kurve. Thankfully I only lost a couple of seconds and my position was not compromised.

Pepe, it looks like the server dropped you from the results. We can fix that don't worry.

Don't know what happened at Dr Tiroch Kurve on lap 1, but I managed to squeeze past the 3 cars that were spinning. Thankfully no contact  :sweatdrop:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: dave curtis on November 22, 2020, 10:57:28 PM +0000
Server replay available from:  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/304lsx)
Also added to event details page.

note: no adjustments made to the imported results yet


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: francesco on November 22, 2020, 10:57:37 PM +0000
I see ann error in my points total.Instead of 157 there is a 148.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Markus Friedrich on November 22, 2020, 11:01:42 PM +0000
I am really angry with myself. I slid into Ricardo in the very first lap in the Dr. Tiroch curve. It was so unnecessary. I backed off a bit before we went into the corner so that there would be more space between us. Nevertheless, I slipped into him. I expected Ricardo to be a faster there. However, I think he is not to blame at all. I was just not cautious enough. 100% my fault.
I am very sorry I ended your race Ricardo! And also apology for all the other races the incident compromised. I know Bob also went into us as he was following close. For luck his car seemed to stay okay.

Later on I had a rather uneventful race. But only until Bob was closing in on me. He got me when I was held up by a backmarker. I think it was Sochenna. It would have been nice if you would not have raced me down to the Dr. Tiroch curve. Especially as you were not in a close fight with someone else (in contrast to myself). In the end you went into the corner and I had to slow down very much to overtake you in the corner. That was more dangerous and difficult to do than it would have been on the straight. However, I am not upset at all. Its racing. I just wanted to share my view.
The overtake of Bob directly at the end of the long straight after the Dr. Tiroch curve was superb and a lot of fun. I tried to protect the inside but you still succeeded! Very well done!

Grats to Dulima, Phil, Bob & all finishers!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: dave curtis on November 22, 2020, 11:12:13 PM +0000
I see ann error in my points total.Instead of 157 there is a 148.

Don't forget the 2x lowest-scoring results are ignored.  You have dropped your 9-points from Mexico in the combined table & 28 points from Rouen in the Privateers table.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: francesco on November 22, 2020, 11:15:57 PM +0000
Quote
Don't forget the 2x lowest-scoring results are ignored.  You have dropped your 9-points from Mexico in the combined table & 28 points from Rouen in the Privateers table.
Ok,so the worst are alrady deleted


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Pepe Higdon on November 22, 2020, 11:43:40 PM +0000
Pepe, it looks like the server dropped you from the results. We can fix that don't worry.

It happened just after crossing S/F in 6th on L22. Suddenly I dropped to 7th, then quickly 8th. By the end of the lap I was 13th! Doni took me at the very last corner, so I probably finished 7th.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Dulima on November 23, 2020, 09:09:06 AM +0000
I'll have to look at the replay in case I was in any incidents but that was my best drive in the 67F1s for a long time (certainly this season). Grats to Dulima (Eduardo) on a solid win, I tried hard to catch you but you were too quick and it seemed as if you always had something in reserve. The chase was over when I clipped the grass and spun at Dr Tiroch Kurve. Thankfully I only lost a couple of seconds and my position was not compromised.

Pepe, it looks like the server dropped you from the results. We can fix that don't worry.

Don't know what happened at Dr Tiroch Kurve on lap 1, but I managed to squeeze past the 3 cars that were spinning. Thankfully no contact  :sweatdrop:

Great run to your Phill, this is a magnificent track, even more with Lotus, it's almost a sexual pleasure

I tried to get rid of you, but I couldn't, I just took a breath when I realized you were wrong

Congratulations on the fastest lap!

Thanks for the fun!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Doni Yourth on November 23, 2020, 07:25:39 PM +0000
Hearty congratulations to Eddie for scoring a fine, well-deserved victory here in Austria.  Fine pace and consistency throughout.  Full marks, amigo.

Phil a great job in P2 hounding Eddie all the way and only coming up a handful of seconds short.  Great job, PT.

Bob a good job for P3 after some early dramas that actually had him in my mirrors briefly.  Nice recovery.

My race lasted about 850 metres.  Starting P7, I was side-swiped off the road in T1 and into the guardrail sustaining damage reports with the culprit escaping scot-free and up to P4 before half a lap was run.  Swell.  By the time I got back onto the road, I was down six positions.  Six.  Of course, I regained some of that in the monster shunt at Tiroch.  Tsk, tsk...  Barely 2/3 of the lap under my belt and there's a Ferrari spinning in front of me.  Trading paint again.  That I finished the lap at all let alone back up to P9 was a marvel.

Picked up another spot to lie P8 on Lap03 as Bob had skidded off the road downstream of Bosch.  Incredible to find that I wasn't even on the back straight of Lap04 when Eddie up on the point was off it.  That didn't last long as Bob passed on the exit of T1 to put me back down to P9.

By Lap08, I'd caught up to Pepe but he was proving a tough nut to crack.  His signal wasn't all it should have been as his image was bouncing a bit rather than more than was comfortable to follow.  That would have grave consequences later on in the race.  I gave chase for many a lap looking for a way by but he was holding fast.  Bastian and Colin had retired to bump me up to P7 so a P6 would be on the cards if I could but pass Pepe.  The end of Lap12 was my chance as Pepe overcooked it into Rindt and I slipped by on the inside cleanly to take the place.  Pepe was having none of it, though, and counter-attacked along the front straight.  Pulling to my right and making to pass, he hit my RR tyre sending me off into the outside barrier giving me quite a fright.  Perhaps I should consider myself lucky as had he done so 10m further on, I would have missed the rail entirely and would have ended up heaven only knows where.

Charging back at Pepe with a fury, Lap14 was a disaster as in trying to get the best exit possible from Rindt, I gassed it too early and spun the BRM.  MERDE!  Lost a bunch of time and all seemed lost.  As if that weren't bad enough, I bungled T1 starting Lap16 to spin wildly striking the outer barriers.  I came to rest partially on the track and at least had the foresight to pull over onto the verge to make way knowing that Syd would be coming along directly.  Indeed so as he swept by demoting me to P8.

Over the next laps, I was able to close on Syd til he ran too deep into Rindt on Lap21 striking the outer barriers and letting me through as happened with Pepe some laps earlier.  This time, I was far enough ahead to prevail.  Over the next laps, I was able to open a small but handy cushion over Syd til the end of Lap25 when we both came across a wayward Brabham doing his best imitation of Rene Arnoux(They shall not pass!).  This couldn't possibly be for position as my pit board was showing Andreas next man up the road far ahead and in a Ferrari.  Whomever this was, he was playing hardball for no apparent reason.  Going into the last lap, Syd was but a half second down on me and a distinct threat.  The Brabham was proving quite an impediment and down in Bosch for the last time, I almost ran into the back of the Brabham.  Only exiting the complex downstream of Bosch did I get a bit of a run on the Brabham and passed going into Rindt.  From there, I was home free.  Syd lost control trying to get under the Brabham but did not lose a place.

Only later did I learn that the Brabham was Pepe who was not being scored by GPL from Lap22 onwards.  He was, in fact, the next man up the road and fighting for position.  I don't know if he let me by for P6 considering we were old teammates in another league but he certainly didn't make it easy.  My mention of his signal being not fully up to scratch certainly figured into the mix.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Baab on November 23, 2020, 09:12:34 PM +0000
Interesting race, approaching Tiroch L1 I braked early because of not being sure of others' braking points, but was still within spitting distance of Markus and as Ricardo came down off his wide line it went off and that was Ricardo's race! I couldn't avoid Markus and was surprised to find my car seemed to be fine afterwards.  Took a bit to get going again as I avoided Ricardo's wreck which slid down the road and as I did I was apparently involved in a crash with Fran and Paul, which I didn't notice!  I am only aware of this due the mail I received shortly afterwards!  After viewing the rpy tonight I am still a bit puzzled but Fran does seem to ricochet off me, probably warp...don't even see his car from my car view.  Slightly odd that Markus and Ricardo were not mentioned in the incident report, but perhaps there are several.

I followed Markus for a bit, he had slightly more luck when we approached others who were bouncing off the walls and managed to put a couple o guys between us. A few laps later I misjudged the bloke in front's braking and spun off at Bosch and the whole world seemed to pass by!  Not sure where I rejoined but I caught Doni after a lap or so and followed on his gearbox for another until I managed to slip by.  I then slowly clawed my way back up the order, quite entertaining as every few laps I caught someone, until I passed Markus.  I was amused to see I was gaining on the leaders, but far too slowly to make a difference. 

Grats to Dulima and Phil, commiserations to my team-mate Arf.  On to Monza 10k, possibly my least favorite circuit of the season!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: maestro57 on November 23, 2020, 09:19:55 PM +0000
so annoying!!!

i tweaked my graphics quality before the race in line with the recomendations in the installation guide

All good offline with 60fps

came online and only get 30fps and lower, too iffy to race with so had to bail out

and now cant find a fix to get to back to 60fps online grrrrrrrr





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: bernie on November 23, 2020, 09:51:23 PM +0000
Love  this track and for once had a decent race ( aided by my newly fitted Pringles dispenser  . I avoided the  wrecking crews of Lap1 and then spent most of the race being attacked by DaveC  (who was recovering after a spin ) and Hallu in the Eagle , there was quite a lot of passing and re passing mostly due to mistakes here and there , With about 4/5 laps to go I came under serious attack from the Eagle when a small mistake by me allowed him to close up in the Texico Schikane , he tried an overtake on  the outside of the final bend but weather he turned in to early or perhaps thought he owned the corner made no difference to the outcome as Mr Warp decided to remove him off the track . Glad you could carry on and was able to finish but I think you would have been better passing after the corner with the aid of the V12 Grunt

Grats to the podium and to Phil on fastest lap !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: BadBlood on November 23, 2020, 10:10:55 PM +0000
Barely 2/3 of the lap under my belt and there's a Ferrari spinning in front of me.

Sorry mate :( Wasn't great but I got excited...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on November 24, 2020, 10:05:44 PM +0000

and now cant find a fix to get to back to 60fps online grrrrrrrr

Pete, on occasion you'll get a frame rate when you join the server for a few laps and then it magically finds 60fps. If you cant find the file then send me a PM.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Rainier on November 25, 2020, 11:03:34 PM +0000
I just had a quick look at the first lap of this race ...

I counted eight incidents, five of them were between  two and more cars, the three others were lonely contact with wall, armco or spin ...
In total it concerned 13 cars for 18 at the start !!
Only on the first lap  :D :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Pepe Higdon on November 26, 2020, 04:25:34 AM +0000
I just had a quick look at the first lap of this race ...

I would appreciate league administrators taking a look at L22 where I was dropped from 6th overall to 13th during the course of the race. I ended up finishing 7th, 1/10th of a second or less behind Doni. I cannot account for the apparent loss of my signal. I am running on a FiOS router that provides 150mb/sec up and down and have made no significant changes to any part of my system the entire year.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Phil Thornton on November 26, 2020, 07:50:38 AM +0000
I just had a quick look at the first lap of this race ...

I would appreciate league administrators taking a look at L22 where I was dropped from 6th overall to 13th during the course of the race. I ended up finishing 7th, 1/10th of a second or less behind Doni. I cannot account for the apparent loss of my signal. I am running on a FiOS router that provides 150mb/sec up and down and have made no significant changes to any part of my system the entire year.
GPL does this occasionally  it appears to be random and not associated with network issues. I'll correct  the result tonight.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Cookie on November 26, 2020, 10:48:10 AM +0000
I just had a quick look at the first lap of this race ...

I would appreciate league administrators taking a look at L22 where I was dropped from 6th overall to 13th during the course of the race. I ended up finishing 7th, 1/10th of a second or less behind Doni. I cannot account for the apparent loss of my signal. I am running on a FiOS router that provides 150mb/sec up and down and have made no significant changes to any part of my system the entire year.
GPL does this occasionally  it appears to be random and not associated with network issues. I'll correct  the result tonight.

IMO this is related to clients connection - a little gap in the data stream crossing the line  ::)
- the other drivers only see a little warp, but the server has no signal of your crossing the lap counter point.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Doni Yourth on November 26, 2020, 12:50:18 PM +0000
From my race report post above...

"By Lap08, I'd caught up to Pepe but he was proving a tough nut to crack.  His signal wasn't all it should have been as his image was bouncing a bit rather than more than was comfortable to follow.  That would have grave consequences later on in the race."


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Phil Thornton on November 26, 2020, 06:23:59 PM +0000
Pepe, it looks like the server dropped you from the results. We can fix that don't worry.

It happened just after crossing S/F in 6th on L22. Suddenly I dropped to 7th, then quickly 8th. By the end of the lap I was 13th! Doni took me at the very last corner, so I probably finished 7th.
I've checked your race time finish in the server replay and I've updated the race results table accordingly.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: BadBlood on November 27, 2020, 06:43:39 PM +0000
Pepe, it looks like the server dropped you from the results. We can fix that don't worry.

It happened just after crossing S/F in 6th on L22. Suddenly I dropped to 7th, then quickly 8th. By the end of the lap I was 13th! Doni took me at the very last corner, so I probably finished 7th.
I've checked your race time finish in the server replay and I've updated the race results table accordingly.

Hate all this honesty - that 11th was precious!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Dulima on November 29, 2020, 11:00:22 PM +0000
Hearty congratulations to Eddie for scoring a fine, well-deserved victory here in Austria.  Fine pace and consistency throughout.  Full marks, amigo.

Phil a great job in P2 hounding Eddie all the way and only coming up a handful of seconds short.  Great job, PT.

Bob a good job for P3 after some early dramas that actually had him in my mirrors briefly.  Nice recovery.

My race lasted about 850 metres.  Starting P7, I was side-swiped off the road in T1 and into the guardrail sustaining damage reports with the culprit escaping scot-free and up to P4 before half a lap was run.  Swell.  By the time I got back onto the road, I was down six positions.  Six.  Of course, I regained some of that in the monster shunt at Tiroch.  Tsk, tsk...  Barely 2/3 of the lap under my belt and there's a Ferrari spinning in front of me.  Trading paint again.  That I finished the lap at all let alone back up to P9 was a marvel.

Picked up another spot to lie P8 on Lap03 as Bob had skidded off the road downstream of Bosch.  Incredible to find that I wasn't even on the back straight of Lap04 when Eddie up on the point was off it.  That didn't last long as Bob passed on the exit of T1 to put me back down to P9.

By Lap08, I'd caught up to Pepe but he was proving a tough nut to crack.  His signal wasn't all it should have been as his image was bouncing a bit rather than more than was comfortable to follow.  That would have grave consequences later on in the race.  I gave chase for many a lap looking for a way by but he was holding fast.  Bastian and Colin had retired to bump me up to P7 so a P6 would be on the cards if I could but pass Pepe.  The end of Lap12 was my chance as Pepe overcooked it into Rindt and I slipped by on the inside cleanly to take the place.  Pepe was having none of it, though, and counter-attacked along the front straight.  Pulling to my right and making to pass, he hit my RR tyre sending me off into the outside barrier giving me quite a fright.  Perhaps I should consider myself lucky as had he done so 10m further on, I would have missed the rail entirely and would have ended up heaven only knows where.

Charging back at Pepe with a fury, Lap14 was a disaster as in trying to get the best exit possible from Rindt, I gassed it too early and spun the BRM.  MERDE!  Lost a bunch of time and all seemed lost.  As if that weren't bad enough, I bungled T1 starting Lap16 to spin wildly striking the outer barriers.  I came to rest partially on the track and at least had the foresight to pull over onto the verge to make way knowing that Syd would be coming along directly.  Indeed so as he swept by demoting me to P8.

Over the next laps, I was able to close on Syd til he ran too deep into Rindt on Lap21 striking the outer barriers and letting me through as happened with Pepe some laps earlier.  This time, I was far enough ahead to prevail.  Over the next laps, I was able to open a small but handy cushion over Syd til the end of Lap25 when we both came across a wayward Brabham doing his best imitation of Rene Arnoux(They shall not pass!).  This couldn't possibly be for position as my pit board was showing Andreas next man up the road far ahead and in a Ferrari.  Whomever this was, he was playing hardball for no apparent reason.  Going into the last lap, Syd was but a half second down on me and a distinct threat.  The Brabham was proving quite an impediment and down in Bosch for the last time, I almost ran into the back of the Brabham.  Only exiting the complex downstream of Bosch did I get a bit of a run on the Brabham and passed going into Rindt.  From there, I was home free.  Syd lost control trying to get under the Brabham but did not lose a place.

Only later did I learn that the Brabham was Pepe who was not being scored by GPL from Lap22 onwards.  He was, in fact, the next man up the road and fighting for position.  I don't know if he let me by for P6 considering we were old teammates in another league but he certainly didn't make it easy.  My mention of his signal being not fully up to scratch certainly figured into the mix.

Thanks for the words Doni.

As we said here in my city, when we know the way well,

"it is way of the farm!"

Zelweg, it’s the country path for me

And I have a good deal with Lotus over there!



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Dulima on November 29, 2020, 11:01:18 PM +0000
Interesting race, approaching Tiroch L1 I braked early because of not being sure of others' braking points, but was still within spitting distance of Markus and as Ricardo came down off his wide line it went off and that was Ricardo's race! I couldn't avoid Markus and was surprised to find my car seemed to be fine afterwards.  Took a bit to get going again as I avoided Ricardo's wreck which slid down the road and as I did I was apparently involved in a crash with Fran and Paul, which I didn't notice!  I am only aware of this due the mail I received shortly afterwards!  After viewing the rpy tonight I am still a bit puzzled but Fran does seem to ricochet off me, probably warp...don't even see his car from my car view.  Slightly odd that Markus and Ricardo were not mentioned in the incident report, but perhaps there are several.

I followed Markus for a bit, he had slightly more luck when we approached others who were bouncing off the walls and managed to put a couple o guys between us. A few laps later I misjudged the bloke in front's braking and spun off at Bosch and the whole world seemed to pass by!  Not sure where I rejoined but I caught Doni after a lap or so and followed on his gearbox for another until I managed to slip by.  I then slowly clawed my way back up the order, quite entertaining as every few laps I caught someone, until I passed Markus.  I was amused to see I was gaining on the leaders, but far too slowly to make a difference. 

Grats to Dulima and Phil, commiserations to my team-mate Arf.  On to Monza 10k, possibly my least favorite circuit of the season!

Thank's Brother!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Rainier on December 02, 2020, 04:49:46 PM +0000
Moderation posted.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: BadBlood on December 03, 2020, 10:26:27 PM +0000
Sigh


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: francesco on December 05, 2020, 01:57:39 PM +0000
Is not very important but why for Badblood only one place lost and for me 2 places in Mexico?
Both incidents happen in lap1, and in Mexico i have not changed
my line.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Rainier on December 05, 2020, 03:25:05 PM +0000
Is not very important but why for Badblood only one place lost and for me 2 places in Mexico?
Both incidents happen in lap1, and in Mexico i have not changed
my line.

I considered Badblood’s fault to be less serious than yours.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: francesco on December 06, 2020, 04:41:56 AM +0000
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I considered Badblood’s fault to be less serious than yours.
Very strange opinion.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: Rainier on December 06, 2020, 09:24:40 AM +0000
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I considered Badblood’s fault to be less serious than yours.
Very strange opinion.

You can make a complaint.

I don't know if I will be moderator for season 38 but if I keep going I will ask for a serie you will not be registered.
You are the only racer reporting incident for almost all races (but only when you think you are not responsible ...).
Is it so important for you and for the championship that Badblood has 9 points instead of 11 ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 37 (2020) 1967 F1 Sprint - Zeltweg - Nov 22
Post by: francesco on December 06, 2020, 06:56:14 PM +0000
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Is it so important for you and for the championship that Badblood has 9 points instead of 11 ?
   
I am not interested in this but in a fair application of the rules.Thank you for taking a doubt away from me, now I know that apllication is a function of sympathy.

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I don't know if I will be moderator for season 38 but if I keep going I will ask for a serie you will not be registered.
You can avoid to ask ,I will avoid you.
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You are the only racer reporting incident for almost all races (but only when you think you are not responsible ...).
you're so democratic that you even resort to falsehoods.