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So with three races left Tommie V O heads up the Works but others still have a chance for glory. Over in the Privateers it appears Bernie is attempting to regain his crown in the 67's, held twice before the last being Season 16. He's not there yet and some other contenders may be intending to spoil his party.

Subject to a viable number of entrants we are running two separate grids for Works and Privateers drivers this season. The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

Race List = IGOR
Server(s);
Works = UKGPL_5
IP address = ping myjamesonline.net
Privateers = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 06-02-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Edmonton International Sppedway
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Works; PRO / Privateers; INT
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 32)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=277;theme=6)
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The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=277;theme=6). Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, namely Works and Privateers. The driver split will be;

WORKS drivers

Kinghiro (R)	Evil Clive	Hristo
Tim FMG	Steve Bird	John Roberts
Al Heller	Vosblod	Jethro
Sam B	Bartosz (Pod)	Baab (R)
Beefpie (R)	Rick N (R)	JHalli (R)
Fulvio P (R)	Tommie van O (R)	EasternSun (R)
Pelle_B (R)

PRIVATEERS drivers

Bernie	Burtoner	Mike Turner
Billy Nobrakes	Bookie W	Nigel Smith
Fabio (Il Lupo)	Ronnie Peterson	Paul Badblood
Martin Maddog (R)	Ross Gilles27 (R)	Hannah (R)
Nicky I (R)	Happy Al (R)	D-Rock (R)
Toni Niemi (R)

EasternSun (R) - sub-division to be decided upon

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count.

Edmonton International Speedway, also known as Speedway Park, was a 251-acre multi-track auto racing facility located at Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. At its peak, it had capacity for over 30,000 fans.
In the late 1940s, the dirt-surfaced Breckenridge Oval opened on the site. In 1952, the oval was shortened and paved, and the facility was renamed Speedway Park. The oval had seating for 8,000.
In 1968, the road course opened in time for the first Can-Am race. Over the years, the facility also hosted Formula Atlantic, Formula 1600, Formula 5000, Trans-Am, as well as NHRA-sanctioned drag racing.
Qualico Developments was the track owner in the latter years, and closed the track in 1982 to convert the land to housing. Edmonton would be without any form of professional racing until Capital City Raceway Park opened in 1991 (now Castrol Raceway).

I find this track super hard to get any flow going. Keep spinning and when I don't I am doing high 1:40's. Sigh.

Keep at it Paul.  Just try and go for staying on track and get 5 or 6 laps at 1:40, then edge it up a little, if you spin go back to trying 1:40's for a few laps; all track time is good.  You're doing ok.

If you then keep spinning regardless post up where i.e. turn exit or entry, and an idea what setup you're using.  Remember the 67's are arguably the trickiest cars.

There's years of experience here on the forum. You will probably get loads of different answers from as many different people; try them all if you can, take the best bits from all THAT WORK FOR YOU, and you'll edge a little off each time.

Edit: Just to reinforce that a little; a setup for someone doing 1:35's will probably not work for one lapping at 1:30 or 1:40, so you have to do what works for you at that time.

I really appreciate its not easy and what seems to be ok one lap will seem wrong the next.  Keep at it though.

Appreciate that Steve. Actually I can't complain. I decided to have a go at the GPL65 rank given that I found a good setup for Kyalami (with a little help from my friends) and I have taken off 100 seconds or so in one evening :) Just can't get to grips (literally) with the 67's... Still I feel that the progress I have made means that I might even get a podium in the Novices next year (or maybe the year after lol).

Well, when you do, let me know how you did it please  :)

Nice going on the 65 rank.

I'll teach you to suck eggs at the same time ;)

Track guide, onboard lap, replay and setup:

http://racingleague.co.cc/hikiwaza/track-guides/how-to-do-fast-lap-edmonton-grand-prix-legends-honda-ra300/

I won't be doing one for GTs at Reims though (not enough time on my hands), but the track isn't too complex anyway.  :P

A Waza in need is a friend indeed. Cheers H.

This thread is up & Forum running again, grats.

Thx to Hristo for a nice track guide, but I get a shock when you first say 1:27.xx times in Honda  :o

I've got Gem+ to work & perfect with the race list, but I think I freeze in chat  ???
We were more in the chat room, just managed to say 'hi'...freeze...maybe we all looked after a Edmonton practice server ?

Well, since it turned out I didn't have a Honda setup at all, I must've been wrong. It was probably Brabham or Ferrari.  ;)

Practise server up.

I'm having to uncomfortably push to get 1:31's so guess I'll be trawling around the back again probably more likely in 33's.

Tim please can you confirm that I have 0 token left instead 5 as I read in champ table cause I failed to start the five first races?
Thx

Hi Fulvio, I think you've found a 'blip' in the system in that it's not halving the tokens if you miss the first 5 races. I was sort of aware of this but completely forgot to mention it to Giz when the season started (sorry), will try and remember for S21 depending what we run. We can't manually change the tokens so was keeping my fingers crossed it wouldn't crop up.
So the answer - I'll ask Giz if he can manually deduct 5 from you so please treat your tokens as zero for now. I must admit I don't follow peoples tokens as lm2 handles it but a quick scan of the table shows you are the only one in that position.

Hmm just had screen-freeze on the practice server - hope that's not a taste of things to come for the race...  :blink:

can anyone advise me on setups for the BRM, I'm struggling big time! There aren't any on the alternative db, currently using one of H's from Riverside.  I am miles off the pace but seem to be driving a reasonable line...not done much praccy though.

I heard Kubica may have to have his hand off, that'd be a massive shame, I think he's one of the best at the mo

I found Le Mans bugatti track is close enough

Gah! I'd outfoxed Clive into defending too hard through the T1-3 and he made a mistake, Then Chased down Al's Lotus and was putting on what pressure I could (Damn that thing is fast on the straights!  ;D) when the engine exploded approaching the final corner  :(
Shame as it's been a good race till then..
Well done to the winners.. (H, Tom, and Al at the mo)

messed it up again  >:(

I was going ok (relative to my normal) but had to try play catch up after having to run myself off track on L1 to avoid hitting an impatient car driving across track trying to recover from his own spin.  Ended up over half a mile behind the pack.

Just as I was getting somewhere went a screwed it up by missing a gear change while trying to plan the best place to allow the leaders through.

 :(

Edmonton Report:
Again, luck was not with me in the race  :(
We got many at the same time down to T1, was not sure how close I was on a BRM?(hope I not hit) & had to take a ride on the grass. My internet becomes unstable, I don't think it can pull a Honda...engine say 'BANG' again, too bad & disappointing. Would follow the rest of the race, but it was also a short pleasure...my connection dies completely  :'(
Grats to you all.
One thing is certain, no Honda for me next race  ;D

another bad race for me with my own mistake of course.Practise time ok and i was 3rd on grid , Hristo get a bad start and Tommie didnt do any better so i was able to take T1 in first place, but too much speed on to T2 and i slide to the grass bank and didnt get my car back to road. >:(

iwas hoping good battle with Hristo and Tommie as i know the track from earlier league races. :-\



Juha

Not bad for me. Pre race praccy was AWFUL. Looked at H's guide - printed it off - didn't have time to take a look.

Qually was interrupted by the kids bedtime so I only had ten minutes - car wouldn't turn, softened everything up, oversteer. Set a time of 1:46 for dead last by eight seconds! Stiffened the suspension up but no time to test it. Decided to drive for a finish. Was surprised to find that I could keep up with the field, set a couple of 1:43s so a PB by three seconds with cold tyres and full tanks! Got a bit excited and span so race was over but I could hope for some attrition. Drove within myself and started lapping at 1:41 - six seconds better than I'd ever managed. Set some fastest sectors whilst being lapped which was odd. Field pulled away and I just kept going (slowly). Concentrated really hard and had one heart in mouth moment when I span into the pit wall nose first - no significant damage though. Kept going until lap 25 when I got stuck in the fence at T2 after avoiding a spinner. Took my SnG and slowed it right down to allow Ronnie to pass me again - 1 less lap to negotiate. +4L but no problem.

Thankful that the Honda is built like a tank - had a few trips up the embankment and over the tyres but no probs.

Great learning experience and second race in a row where I've got sixth by driving within myself. First time I've changed the setup and actually made it work as well. Progress all round.

Another 2/3 for the Soggies at a track that caught many out (myself included) with its deceptive simplicity. The field was bunched up going into T1/2 and disaster was only narrowly avoided as MH went for a route 1 approach to the chicane  :). I started 4th and finished 3rd somehow having survived several offs and collisions and a SnG. In the closing stages I found myself in a battle for the final podium with NS who had a bit of a wobble on L30 under pressure and I was able to take the position.

      Nice one Paul, glad to see you finishing, and enjoying it by the sound of it.
      I seem to be the victim of some poor tactical decisions this season- this time it was fuel. I should know how thirsty the beast is by now but 35lap fuel wasn't enough.
      The race itself was good though. Used a VIR setup that felt good and apart from having to hit the brakes HARD a couple of times in that 1st lap thing went smoothly. Realaxed a bit about half way through when my pit board showed 3rd- whey hey. But Mr Turner was gaining fast towards 3/4 distance and I started taking the Waza up to the redline to keep a gap. Bulletproof, yes despite its reputation, thirsty, yes as its rep. Three laps to go the dreaded stutter appeared and I tried to eke it out, with no luck.
Sitting there trackside I suddenly remembered we had a Shift-R in hand so I banzaied it to the pits and S&G'ed to keep in the running- I didn't want another DNF :) Rewarded with 4th, good result after all.
       Well done the podium guys- I nearly made it- and looking forward to the next one.

      What I meant to say was I got back to the pits to be out of the way lol.

Ok - so we are still on a different planet - I only filled mine to 30 laps and still had eleven gallons left at the end! You have to be economical these days with the price of petrol lol.

I knew I wasn't driving as hard as I could because my tyres never went off blue in Prib. It was three races before I realised that there WAS a colour coding in Prib :laugh:

Definitely a learning curve because I was being cautious but whenever I pushed it a bit I span - the dividing line between maximising the speed and overcooking is so thin.

Glad to see a Waza up there but I was shocked at how fast the other cars could out accelerate me. Still haven't got to grips with gearing yet <sigh>. That'll halp at Jarama. Can't do better than a 1:48 there but at least I don't crash (much). Planning for Season 21 already but I probably won't move up to Works  ::)

        I dont use Prib. Paul. Last time I tried I went bos-eyed. Its enough for me to look at the track without any other distractions. Really though it cocked up GEM and I haven't had enough computer time to sort it out.
         I like to rev the t*** off my engines so that probably accounts for the consumption- although I do always put a couple of laps extra in the tank. Will have to hope Ronnie crossed the line at the right moment ;)

Repco engine lost power when I downshift to 4th at T1 about 6th lap while I was following Bart in his Cooper, then I continued with a sputtering and smoking engine till he died. Tom had the same experience in his BRM, but the engine lasted till the end  :o Congrats for perseverance  :)
Ciao

Deceptive track this . looks easy but requires precise driving to do well , bit Kyalami 'ish in that respect .

I had a good solid race set up which I promptly ruined for the race by fitting longer gears (I think its called engine management nuerosis) .

Got away in p3 which soon became p5 after a tardy start and a banzai Cooper attack into T1 by mad Martin. Back to p3 after Fabio spun his brabby at the end of the lap and collected Mike,  allowing me to pass while they sorted out to see who could get away first .

After that it was a lonely race , couldn't do anything about Ronnie and Martin who were gone into the distance and things got worse about a third into the race when my car began behaving very strangely , more like a shopping trolly on most corners but would be Ok the next lap, on one lap my car got launched into a wild spin through the chicane , the handling seemed to change for every corner , really weird , thought the tyres had gone or I had some suspension damage.

I was relieved to see the checker waving after what had become a survival race .

After closing down iGOR I found Ad-aWARE had fired up and been doing a system scan in the background , so I suppose that would explain the silly car stuff .

Grats to Ronnie and Mike , commiserations to Martin who seemed to be on fire in the Coop , well done all who made it across the line in one piece .

    

This didn't end so well. After a tough competition from Juha and Tom in Qualifying, and then dealing with pressure from Tom in the race after Juha fell off, I was finally having a breather in the last 1/3rd of the race with a decent gap back to 2nd, but went too fast in on the entry of T2, went up the banking (thinking it's not a big problem to recover from) and suddenly got my front left wheel stuck behind the fence there. Was still classified 3rd due to Evil's generous gesture of taking an imaginery chequer a lap earlier, but with Tom winning the race it doesn't look good for the Championship anymore. Curse my desire for going for the fastest lap on the last lap...

Grats, Tom, you've almost got it in the bag now!

Firstly I've had some feedback from Giz. It's not actually a 'blip' more the way we are running this division. It is actually run as one although the scoring is separated out between Works and Privateers and the import system is therefore combining the number of races and hence when it kicks in to reduce tokens. We did this originally in case we did not have enough support to run two divisions. Giz has kindly offered to split it into two divisions - you won't notice a difference except the tokens situation will be corrected.


Back to business results uploaded, any Incident Reports by close of play Friday please. You may have noticed we used a different server for Works (UKGPL_Gpg) which is a tried and tested one kindly being provided via Fulvio for the rest of the season. All results/replays for Works will now automatically be posted here: http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/ (http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/) (just click on current for UKGPL) with Privateers continuing to be posted in the usual place.
A provisional review of the Privateers throws up one driver taking an extra Shift/R, all others took one or none and pitted correctly. It will be lreviewed fully during moderation but is looking like a DQ situation.


Turning to my race - well the less said the better. Missed Qually found a bit of carnage up the road and did some damage to my car avoiding it. Made it round a lap then span off and impaled myself. End of story.

Update: Giz has now revamped the divisions; you will now see GrP and GrW separately

Delighted to be back on the podium - of course a rather undeserved 2nd but I would say I was entitled to 3rd after holding it from lap 1 & having to work so hard to keep it in the early stages :sweatdrop:. Got an OK start from 6th but thanks to Lotus power managed to get myself right onto the tail of the leading trio. Just watched the replay & seeing everyone barrelling down towards T1 side by side you just know that it's not going to be pretty!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AwMtMND4F-o/TU_9BX51QdI/AAAAAAAAASo/LXrfze4z-bU/s1600/lap1.jpg)

Juha's misfortune at T2 promoted me to 3rd but I immediately came under intense pressure from Clive. I wasn't too sure of the limits of the Lotus on full tanks & cold tyres but Clive certainly indicated that I needed to learn them pretty quickly & he harried me mercilessly for 10 laps with my only salvation being the Lotus straightline speed. I clipped the tyres at the Esses trying to shake off his damn Waza & felt I was beginning to lose my rhythm but then Clive took pity on me & had an off at T1. Sadly no relief though for as soon as the white whale disppeared from my mirrors, FMG's brab appeared in its place. Once again I was relying on the Lotus to give me some breathing space on the straights but after about 6 or 7 laps FMG too suddenly disappeared (turned out to be blown engine). Both Tommie & H were miles ahead but Clive was ominously gaining ground albeit 15 seconds or so behind, so I just tried to maintain a good race pace. Mindful of the Lotus' propensity to self-destruct I also tried to preserve the engine as much as possible so was very relieved to see the flag. Didn't realise that H had crashed on the last lap until I saw the final results board - commiserations.

H & Tommie were in a different league here so congratulations to them both - championship looks like it will be an exciting showdown. 

At last I get to finish a Grads race after several DNF's.
Grats to Tommie and Hristo who were indeed in a class of their own around here, although Hristo put a large blemish on his record on the last lap!!


In qually I did not manage to get anywhere near my PB but still managed a 5th spot on the grid, which at least afforded me a clear view of the start flag. I bogged down slightly off the line and Al and swept past in that pesky Lotus.
Al was being a bit tentative in his Lotus on cold tyres and although I knew it took 2 laps around this track to bring the Waza Wheels up to working temp I felt that I could be going faster. The trouble was the darned acceleration and top speed of that green thing!! I was closing up under braking and backing off mid corner all around the circuit for the 1st 2-3 laps. As the tyres gave some grip I actually dropped back slightly to see if I could get a run at Al and carry some speed through a corner and pass on the next straight. The trouble was that by then FMG had dragged his Brabham ( another green thing!!) to within attacking distance.
I closed the gap up but Al went all defensive when all I wanted was for him to put his foot down so that we could drop Tim lol!! The result was a Waza filling in a green sandwich!!! For 10 laps I was looking for a way around Al but he closed off every attack line and relied on his acceleration and top speed to pull a gap on the straights so that I was unable to get alongside in the braking zones. Absolutely fair...just bloody irritating lol

I hate to dissillusion Tim, but far from pressuring me into a mistake at T2 I missed a down shift ( or to be more precise, my paddles failed to perform the downshift ) something that is becoming a more regular occurence with my wheel and will need investigating. As a result I lost the engine braking at a crucial moment and ran just wide enough to provoke a spin  :-\

By the time I had recovered Al and Tim were way ahead and Bart was now a problem with his Cooper.

I think I sustained some minor damage in the spin because the Honda was not quite as solid in the corners after that and although I pulled away from Bart quite easily a further 2 spins allowed him to catch me again. I had to perform 2 extreme braking moves to regain my 4th spot and pass that Cooper all the while watching Hristo getting closer and closer to lap me.

Hristo went past with a few laps to go and I pushed hard to draw a gap from Bart. On what I thought was my last lap I saw a car on top of the bank at T2 and wondered who it was, it turns out that it was Hristo wrestling with the fencing!

By then I had Tommie looming in my mirrors and sort of lost track of the laps although I knew that the end was close. I saw the chequered flag and eased over assuming that my race was finished. It now transpires that there was another lap to go....But surely I should not have been able to see the chequered flag if it was meant for Tommie? just as one only sees blue flags that are being waved at oneself??

It made little difference as the Wazas would still have finished  3rd-4th so I am not too bothered.

Great racing and a nice track. The new server seemd OK, although I did experience a few frame stutters at T2-T3 when I was close to other cars.

At Kyalami, I'd had the advantage of faster machinery, in which to wend my way to victory. (What's a wend?)  But now the boot was on the other foot, and I faced the uncomfortable position of driving a slower car at Edmonton.  Hence, was happy to claim an early 4th on the grid, and thereafter, contentedly pottered about the track on full tanks, while noting how, much of the scenery became deranged during each absence. It was with some surprise, I later noted how a couple of scalawags, had pipped my spot, in the final moments of practice.  Some people have no manners! :-X
 
Everyone had the audacity of making a good start, which left the track a tad busy, approaching the first complex.  I decided a late apex would be the safest route, and proceeded to explore some new territory.  It was therefore, a somewhat happy reunion, to rediscover the track, and still pointing in my direction.  Happier still, when third became 2nd, at the end of the first lap.  There was only a rapid Ronnie ahead, who's tail I tried to cling to, but in vain.

It was apparent, I was no match for the Italian protege, but at least I'd opened a large gap, back to 3rd.  Except all this changed, when the motor let go unexpectedly, on the back straight, while approaching that fiendish right, left hander.  This meant third, and struggling to match Bernie's pace.  Then the tyres let go, on the back straight, while entering that fiendish right, left hander.  Which meant . . . precipitously, not only a nasty scratch on my helmet, but also a scratch from the race! :-\

I wonder if anyone has managed to model a nice powerful digger, for Gpl?  I wonder if I could borrow it for for a slight spot of remodeling, before we race here again!?    ???

This track will never become one of my favourites...

I learnt it on Saturday evening but I wasn't able to get a good race pace.

Yesterday, I found a good pace with race fuel instead so, in the last qualify minutes with almost empty tank, I shaved 5/10 on my Saturday evening PB.

Grats to Ronnie for his impressive pole time: I just found he would have started from 5th place on Works grid!! :notworthy:

At race start I wasn't able to jump in front of him and I immediately had a disturbing Maserati noise on my ears instead: beacuse of this on last turn I spun, so I ended the first lap on last position... :cursing: :cursing:

Unfortunately I didn't found the right concentration to climb as much drivers as I could and I made several errors instead, the biggest one a second shift+r that will lead to a DQ :death:

Grats to the podium, to everybody raced and to the race organization.

See you all in Jarama!

PS
Last but not least, good luck to Bernie and Ronnie that will fight alone for the Privateers crown on the last two races!

I had planned a long recap of my race victory but realised it was only full of self praise so sod that. Suffice to say after Kyalami I did not breathe a sigh of relief until the chequered flag. Nice drive with the championship in mind Bernie and commiserations to Fabio and Martin who both clearly had their problems. Congrats to the rest of the podium and all who survived the hell of 32 right/lefts through that submerged polo mint section. A big thank you to everyone for some extremely courteous driving making lapping, when it occurred, comfortable on a tricky circuit. This chivalrous behaviour seemed even to extend to qualifying where I am sure some people may have sacrificed their own laps allowing me to achieve a PB. Special mention for Paul and your post above. It was ages before I realised tyre temperatures changed colour in prib. Get the laps in and keep pushing mate.

Regarding the chat at the end of the race in game and in the ukgpl chatroom where a fellow driver repeatedly accused me of rear end shunting him, identifying me by name/car/number and demanding a 2 place penalty be imposed. I resisted the temptation to get involved in a no I didn't/yes you did pantomime debate at the time, even though I knew the accusations against me were baseless. I'm assuming the driver concerned has now looked at the Edmonton race replay and realises their mistake and that I was not involved in any such incident. An apology would be nice, but then I was hoping for one from the same driver after the last race at Kyalami, so I'm not holding my breath.

Let me quickly add, apology or no apology, I have no issues with the driver concerned or anyone I race with and will aim to treat everyone with the same courtesy when racing for position, lapping or being lapped.

Sorry about that lot, I really just want to race, so even though I'm sure we all hate the place, roll on Jarama.

We certainly will - it is one BIG DIPPER :D

Well done Ronnie and well driven - your qually was amazing. I felt I did well to get within ten secs of your race pace lol.

PS Fabio - led you for half a lap hehe enjoyed that... See you Friday team mate.

Mediocre race from me, but then I wasn't expecting much more.  Did little praccy and found the esses a challenge.

First turn was interesting, I was cautious but then a honda (Pedro?) came across the grass then across the track and into me at the far side. This put me almost last. Have to hold my hand up here as I got under way again as others were still coming, I thought everyone had gone past.  Some may have spun trying to avoid me (Steve?), I haven't seen the replay.

I had numerous other incidents on my own and finally rolled over at the 3rd last corner, game over.  I should have been much more cautious and played it turtle, I was in the BRM after all.

May try a bit more practice at Jarama, never even seen that circuit.

Bob.

oh dear!! is Bob in for a shock ::)

You better, it's much more trickier than this one.  ;D

Tell me about it  :o

I will be happier when you will be able to fight with me on every race!
Unfortunately I have to miss Rouen in the GTs...

Jason - my wife is an English teacher and told me that you necessarily have one Collar and two Socks. One 'c', two 's'. I've never forgotten how to spell it since!

Fabio - pity about Friday we'll just have to go 1-2-3 at your home track. ;)


That's nothing! I took five seconds off my best in the race - still eight seconds back of you though :(  lol

Hi all,

What an ending to that one! Since I knew Clive was in front of me and Pelle had retired I knew who it was stuck in that fence, also because I seemed to recognise '6' written on the side of the tub... Woohoo! ;D

Even though I knew the track beforehand, it was a different game in the Ferrari 312. Hadn't done any practice before Sunday night so decided to see if there was a practice server up before the race so I could figure out how to drive the track. There was, and at first I started lapping 1:32's but soon the times went down and I was doing sub 30's. I reckoned it wouldn't be enough to be really competitive but at least fast enough to follow the fast guys around.

In Quali I suffered from a lot of traffic in the beginning, but I had one or two clear laps later on which were quite good and I even took pole from Hristo for a while. Juha came close in the Brabham which was very competitive here but my time was enough for second place on the grid.

My start was good, after practicing on it after the Kyalami disaster, but Hristo had started just as well so no chance of taking 1st there. Suddenly Juha appeared to the side of Hristo taking over the lead! I kinda suspected the Brabham to start well but I didn't expect Juha to take 1st going into Turn 1! Unfortunately he went into T3 slightly too fast and beached himself on the embankment. Bad luck Juha!

So now it was just me and Hristo because it seems like Al was a little preoccupied trying to salvage 3rd. I really had a good pace in the early stages, feeling faster than Hristo, but unfortunately I made some little and not so little mistakes later on and lost a second or two. Then, after about 2/3rd, I missed my braking point and spun. I lost 8 seconds in the process so from that moment on I was just trying to survive the thread of blowing engines and screen freezes. I had the quiet hope of snatching 1st by virtue of a mistake/mechanical failure on Hristo's side, but had pretty much given up on that, when I saw a Honda stuck in the scenery at T4...

Next couple of races are going to be tough. I could win the championship on my own regardless of what Hristo does, if I finish at least second in both races. That will be very tricky to accomplish since I'm out of tokens at the moment. I've decided to stick with Italian V12's for Jarama and pick the Cooper, before hopefully steering the Ferrari to victory at it's home track! But it's still very much undecided for me, there's some stiff opposition for sure.

Tom.

Please have a look at the timetable of other races in the quoted webpage to not download replays during a race.
Ciao

Hi all,

For the next race at Jarama, does somebody have the replay of the season 17 Division 1 race? Would be interested to look at it and look at people's lines, what's the most likely place to go off, how to build up my own race etc.

S17 Jarama thread here:

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6395.msg111569#msg111569

Tommie.

We don't keep official server one's that far back and I wasn't involved that season so don't have anything lurking on my pc.
You might hit lucky if someone has a dusty old copy left on their shelves.

I believe I still have a copy of that race. Not sure where I can post it mind. Any suggestions?

I use megaupload.com (free) but there are other similar sites.

Ah, I didn't realise you didn't have to register! I'll try and upload the replay by tomorrow, I don't think I'll have the time to go on my racing rig tonight  :angel:.

Thanks in advance Sam!

Tommie.

Moderation now published.

Accordingly a penalty place will not be applied but on balance Hannah's contribution was the more severe.

Michael Turner — caution — Take care when passing and consider using the widest line
hannah (hannah hurricane) — warning — Leave room for other drivers — also, 1 place lost for penalty points

Er. Which is it Tim? There is a whole 5 points at stake here!

The one place lost is due to a yellow card accrual automatically applied by the system. Please don't ask me to go through the process of that again :surrender:, we've had discussions on previous posts.

Is it just me or has the championship table gone walkabout.

This one ?

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=295&theme=6 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=295&theme=6)


Its where its always been  ;D just re titled to S20 GrP  ;)