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Practice 1: 20:00 (20 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (60 minutes) - note: no warm up!

Cars allowed: Any GT1 or GTC from the NEW v2.13.0.0 car pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics)

Track: Watkins Glen (Long) (DutchDevil v1.0.1.1, download HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_watkinsdd))
Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: Changeable. (Similer to real-world conditions)
Virtual Race Weather Forecast (for rough guidance only) To be Published ~19:30pm on Race night:
FORECAST is
 Weather: Overcast
 Ambient: 24
 Early Conditions:  Overcast
 Mid Race Conditions:  Dry
 Late Race Conditions:  Rain


Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: x2
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR2 Test
Password: see above (#post_event_password)


Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=245;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.

All being well, this will be the final test race before we kick off the new season.

Hope to see you on track. :)

Will install it when I come back and try the things out. :) Hope you didn't have too much to do with the changes, Legzy. This is always a dull process, test and retest. I guess the readme states the changes made? Not sure yet which class / car I'll take.

The track version doesnt ring a bell, but GT1's surely 8)

Not sure yet if it's the version with or without the chicane after T1, but I'll be warming up the vette and brimming the tank in either case.

Might also the the Corvette - I owe  it    her that much. :)

Modern cars typically run the inner loop (chicane at end of long straight) while historics ran without back in the day.
The vette does look like good fun here. With any luck the misses will let me get out on this track for real in September for a club race.

it's the Watkins with no Chicane at the bottom of the hill (T2-3), but does have one at the top of the hill (just before T5 :-\)

For obvious reasons at this track, I'm sure there will be more people queuing up for GT1's... but hopefully a few will join me in a GTC to give them a good test for their season ahead too.

only if you tell me your lap time lol   :P

I wont get a chance to turn a lap till much later in the week. :(

I've just realised that by the end of this week I'll have raced UKGTL, UKiR, UKPnG & UKGTR2!  :o :laugh:

Wow, dunno how you find the time, it takes me a week to learn 1 track lol.



I was running low 52's with GTC's and managed a mid 41 with the C6R.

Nice track for a GT1 fest this and should make it feel like a proper endurance with 2x wear, weather etc.  :) Not sure when i'll find any time for praccy though  :(

Still dont understand logic of GTC with GT1s, when GT2 would have served better, but hey ho.

because those are the two classes we'll be using this season. Though they'll be be running seperate weeks, this is just the new physics pack test.

Tried Marcos first, of course. ::) Seems easier to drive now, made 1:40:4. :) Will try other cars next.

What has changed?  :o

Erm, not sure I know either :-\... but it helps that I've raced before at Knockhill / Mosport / Westwood / Watkins Glen a few times :laugh:


Yeah, looked like Ruskus needed some help last season! :lol:


Other than it can hold an extra 40L & is 10% more efficient (like every other GT1 car)... nothing. :no:

Maybe it's the track. It seemed undriveable at Paul Ricard. Must try other cars still.



Edit: tried C6R and it's about 1 sec faster for me than Marcos. Not sure what to take yet. :)

I noticed this message when you install it:- Watkins Glen converted to GTR2 by DutchDevil

UKGTR Long version correcting rear tyre heating.

Unfortunately the textures have been done incorrectly and do not work on DirectX/7.

I also take it that the BMW Z4 is a GTC car?

Running 1:51s in a BMW Z4 any good?

Should the practice server be running now?

I can't see it in the lobby.  :(

Just checked the server and all appeared well ??? but I've restarted it just in case.

anyone else having trouble downloading the new physics pack? Tried it twice now and it d/loads as an unidentified file.  ???

Ive had that with the filefront one but the Humyo works ok mark.

I had this too, I just renamed the file to .exe and that fixed it.

Yep same here, went wth filefront as i asked my to log in to humyo but you jst need to stick .exe on the end.


Still not got round to practising yet for this :(

FTI - you don't need to log into humyo, you just select the link at the bottom to download the non-encrypted version. It downloads at least twice as fast as Filefront.


Sorry to hear about the renaming issue... I'll check Dave's named it OK.

Thanks. Working ok for me now.  :)

And i remember you saying that but i checked and there was no link on that page at all. It said you need to log in to download this file. might be more permissions related to the file.

Sorry, you're right Spanner. I just tried from a different PC, wanted me to log in... so I must already be logged in on the main one. Well it costs me nothing so I'd recommend joining as it's quicker

I was having a go last night & couldn't seem to get any better then 51's... so I reckon that must be a great time ;D

Any news on the weather forecast for tonight ???

Sorry for the delay


FORECAST is

Race
 Weather: Overcast
 Ambient: 24
 Early Conditions:  Overcast
 Mid Race Conditions:  Dry
 Late Race Conditions:  Rain

2 Out of 3 wrong  ::)

Good enjoyable race on one of my favourite tracks (have enjoyed that track in GTL, then PnG, then iR & now GTR2. Awesome! 8)).

Good turn out for a test too, hope to see you all back next week & for as much of the season as poss ;)

Only dissapointment really, was it turned out to be another "dry" race. The weather conditions on the server were saying a bit of rain at the end there, but I couldn't see any. Will have to look at the weather file when Picnic uploads it & see if it was in that 'marginal' area again when it's just overcast. :-\

TT, you owe me £10 8). I told you Jeff would get the 1st post race comment & he would be disappointed about the lack of rain. ;D

Just let me know if you want the lottery numbers ;)

Heh, I didn't dare Alt-Tabbing to see the forecast. Good. I would fret a lot more during the race and probably develop a wise st00pid pit-strategy. :D
Good race for me. Almost got the car into wall while being scared distacted by a bumblebee buzzing round my head. The thing was as big as a sparrow! :scared: Fortunately it was a time to pit and I fended the danger off safely. :angel: JB and JR :blink: were a bit quicker than me, oh by a minute or so. Third feels like a win. ;)
Great job, GTCs very helpful while lapping. No problem with carpack and track. Welcome to some new drivers, hope you stay and race with us. :)

Good job Legzy and his elves. 8)

P.S. @Legzy: is it payable in beer? ;)

Well, first race here at UKGTR, I am noob in GTR2 (used to play LFS) and was totally out of pace. However, I'm really happy I've finished the race because I am not used to 1 hour races. I would like to apologize if I disturbed someone when I was being lapped.

See you.
Thx.

err *cough*... :-[

may I continue by saying how good it was to see two or three new faces tonight. Welcome :)

Just looking into that at the moment. We should have seen overcast conditions for definite. So far I have run a similar weather file to what we should have had. I have run this off line and all seemed good. Just about to try on line.

I will start a thread soon so I can get some feed back. Hopefully it will work OK soon. ::)

Nice track, good turn out. Rock on. 8)

I saw no problems with the track. :)

I was having a nice race for a while and then managed to loose control a few times, sorry to anyone I messed up. I also managed to get 2 stop and gos for speeding in the pit lane. The speed checker in the pit works fine. ;D

Welcome new drivers and well done podiums.

Seemed OK on line as well.

Conclusion; just because it works on my dedicated server does not mean it will work on UKGTR server. :(

Further investigation is required.

Better than than never  :-[

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20100801%20U13/index.html)

The dedicated server doesn't time scale the same way the in-game server does. I believe it also depends on what scaling is set in the track .GDB.

Good fun sliding the RS around last night. I like the flow of the Glen, but when things go wrong it does tend to bite hard as I found to my cost. Had nice battles with Spanner and Lazlow up to my stop. Elected not to change my soft/meds expecting rain later and a quick pit onto inters or wets. The rain held off and my laptimes fell and I eventually crashed heavily. Pitted for long repairs but decided to call it a night shortly afterwards.

Not a criticism as I can only imagine the amount of work put in to creating changeable weather, but imho it has to be more reliable if we are going to use it.

I like the fact that the changeable weather is unreliable. We don't know what the real weather will bring although, we have a good idea within 30 minutes. In the real world, guys don't dive to the pit lane for wets till it is raining.

I didn't change onto wets/inters Mike, just gambled on keeping my soft/med tyres anticipating a change later if/when the rain came as had been forecast. My left front was up to 25 by the time I crashed at 50 mins and I'm just not used to running with this kind of wear  :o

Good fun last night, thankfully when I checked the underground weather it said 30% chance of rain which I took to mean it wouldn't rain... and I was right.  8)  more luck than judgement it would seem.
had a terrible few opening laps and lost a place to leggzy. managed to get it back and then just put my head down and stayed out of trouble.
had a couple of moments with GT1s trying to take me on bends (one person went off tyring this).
Had a good pit stop plan which worked out great and got me a to within 5 secs of mike, but I didn't have the pace to stay that close and dropped further and further back every lap.
last lap I was in 3rd (for class) and had Lazlow 10 secs behind me. Span the car while being overtaken by a GT1 which put Lazlow 1 second behind me and on the last lap I crumbled and went very wide on a right hander and ended up settling for 4th (in class)

So the 997 seemed to be stuttering through some of the gears.... it sounded like it had a missfire lol. anyone else notice this?
I'm not sure if it is was something to do with my setup or an underlying problem with the car?.  Hope it's not a problem with
the car itself because I was planning on using it for the S13.


Thanks again to Leggzy and all for organising yet another great race. and congrats to podiums...

lol, it must have been bad! :laugh:

lol it wasn't meant to read like that mate.....

OK, I had not looked at this part of the .gdb when choosing tracks to test with. Thanks for the info Dave, I will investigate further.


I totally agree. The weather system is totally missing the point of its original intended purpose at the moment. ;D Don't worry, it will not be used in championship races until/if it is sorted properly. I can handle criticism as long as its constructive or highly humorous. ;)


I used to enjoy the races when we used Dave's system but, some numpty started a conversation about how it could be improved:
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7297.0
In the end it was decided that it was better to have a bit more predictability in the weather that would be used so that people did not have to practise for all sorts of different weather possibilities. Also the races could be too much of a lottery some times for peoples liking.

After running the actual weather file used in last nights race on my own server, I discovered that I had the same looking sky and no overcast clouds. What happened was the weather system decided it will not rain but, we would have overcast conditions. The conditions value that it gave for overcast was 60 but, it should have been 62.5 - 65. At 60 we still get blue ish sky. It totally changes to overcast at 62. I am sure that some of the add on tracks are a bit tighter with the conditions values.

Conclusion; conditions values still need a bit of tweaking for add on tracks.

Also, the forecast was miles off. If we had overcast conditions then it should have reported light rain at the most, not normal rain which is what it did report.

Conclusion; Level of potential error needs to be reduced but, there may be more to this issue than that. Looking into it now.

You promised me half the profit for making the first post  :angel:

Just tried it again with the same setup on the same track and it's not stuttering at all, so I checked the replay and couldn't hear it stuttering their either. I guess my computer must have been playing up  ???

Also while watching the replay I noticed that I closed the door on Leggzy and nearly took him off the track early on in the race :-[ , Sorry mate I never realised you were along side me, That explains why you seemed a bit nervous around me.
If I knew what I had done I would have let u passed on the straight....again sorry.

It was nice to be back racing here last night and see a good turn out. Didn't test much in the week, just picked the Lister because its a car i know i get on well with and i fancied a change from the Aston. Not sure what car i will use for the season yet though. Hooked up a PB for pole after quite a few attempts but i was worried by the pace of Ruskus in the Viper in sector one, if he got even a sniff of my wing on the straight it was game over.

Luckily i got the jump on him at the start and had enough of a gap to make it to the chicane without getting overtaken. After that the Listers superior handling in the final sector kept me ahead, depsite loosing time up the hill in sector one on every lap. It was a good battle as we stayed around three seconds apart for ages before the stops. After the stops i was fifteen seconds ahead, presumably the Viper is more thirsty than the Lister and this accounted for the advantage. Apart from a few scary slides as my rear tyres got a little hot the rest of the race went well. As always the GTC's were great and let me past easily when being lapped  8)

I won't be here for next week as i'm going to watch the BTCC at Snetterton but i will be back for the week after!

I had to take 90 litres at the stop, but to lose 10 seconds would mean the Lister needed only 60 litres  ??? . I actually entered the pit too fast, so I have no clue how on earth I could lose the time.

My start was crap cause I reacted to your brakelights which seemed to be flickering from time to time, so when we approached T1 I saw your lights come on and I braked out of reaction, eventhough we were miles from T1  ;D. I knew I had to get a good start, so when the gap was already that big it was game over. After that I was hoping for the rain... ::)

API and I had the reverse of Ruskus and Jayblue's lap 1 battle. I tucked up under API's rear wing with my Viper and blew by him on the straight on lap 1. The ebb and flow of the big power vs. good handling car kept he and I entertained until I came in for my stop. I took more fuel and he didn't even take tires so he came out well ahead after the stop cementing his 1st place position.  Smart drive API.

I thought we agreed we'd not tell TT ::) ;D


No problem. It was funny because when I was behind you I seemed so much faster & could attack/harass you at most corners. But once I did get past, I could not shake you at all despite you not seeming to have the same kind of chances. Weird ??? You kept good pressure on though & I think I eventually lost it in the fast chicane at the top of the hill & went sideways into the barrier.


I both agree & disagree :-\ ;D
I too was banking on the rain coming late & despite picking up about 9+ secs of aero damage at about 1/3 of the race distance, I hung out there as long as my fuel would last waiting for the rain. While doing that lost me a fair bit of time, at least I was making what was hopefully an informed decision that would hopefully have been the correct one (given that forecast) more times than wrong.
Having said that, that's the 3rd race out of three that has had generated weather, each predicting light rain at least. Obviously none have done it, which is a bit of a shame, but I'm sure H@L will get to the bottom of it. (not that I'm expecting too much rain in Dubai :laugh:)

Ah sorry  :-[

The brake pedal potentiometer on my G25 must be playing up again (i had it cleaned a few months ago) and sometimes my brake light flash when i'm not touching the pedal. Now that i know about it i will try to fix it again. Seems my throttle is also not working properly as i also tested that last night and it won't stay on full throttle but keeps fluctuating on the control input page in the game. As the wheel is out of warranty i will take my chances on fixing it.

I was using 6.1l per lap in the Lister and started with a full tank, my entry to pit road wasn't perfect either  ???

I had that a while ago. I took the top plate off the pedals and cleaned the pots. First with an air cleaner and then I sprayed the pots with Servisol Super 10. I keep a dust cover over the pedals now when I am nut using them and they have not gone wrong again since. :)

Thanks i will try that  8)