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Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (10 mins)
Race: 20:35 (36 laps = ~80mins)

Track: Buenos Aires GP v1.0 (download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_buenosaires))
Cars allowed: Any GTC65, including DB4 and Ferrari mods (download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.0)), barring the Ford GT40 and McClaren M1A.
Time of Day Setting: 07:00
Start: STANDING
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel or change your tyres. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTL Classics Cup
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.ukRules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0).
(3) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.6.5.0 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).
(4) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car

If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

(5) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=188;theme=5)

Just thought I'd check before I possibly download & install the wrong one, on the downloads page we have the choice of Buenos Aires 'v1.0' or 'v1.0.0.0'.
Definitely the v1.0 we want?

actuallly no..we want the v1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0

the difference is like 0

Damn, this season is starting sooner than I want it too.

I'm really struggling with work to get my night shifts back, I can't miss this season - I JUST BOUGHT A G25!!!!

It's waaaay better driving with G25. Never wanna go back to the red plastics.  :no:

The cop stops a driver and make him do an alcohol test. The result is 0,9 mg/kg - 0,5 is allowed. And the driver says: "It's ok, just round it up to 10."  ;)    There are no jokes about policemen - everything is true.  ::)

TT

I raced the last 3 races of last season with my G25, was really looking forward to doing the whole Season 6 with it :(

I'm getting a fantastic frame rate on this track, it's more then double what I was getting at Thermalito. (Good news Tibs  :) )

Knocking laps out at between 2:09 & 2:11 at the moment, depending on which car I'm in. Anyone else got any times round this circuit yet?

Not ones I'd like to reveal yet  ;) Tough choice between Cobra, Healey and Aston for me.

Should just mention that you should all find time to practice/find the pit entry if you can, as its a little tricky here.

Lol, first championship race and I'm absent.  :P  Can't we do another fun race? I'll be back next thursday.  ::)

(http://gallery.davegymer.org/cpg/albums/uploads/cars/20080726_Silverstone_Classic/DSC_8633.jpg)
 :jumpjoy:

Are you taking a fezza then Dave?  :laugh:

Dave and his geeky fisherman's hat ;)

Err... Is that a Team shark T-shirt with the 350Z on the front? Didnt realise the Team had a uniform!
 :notworthy:  :o

Ummm...Where is the pit entry? (go's and hides) I'm driving around and havent noticed it at all! ???


Tried a few cars but nothing really under 2.12 so i think i'll be in my usual position.

Same result for me. Tried 3 cars and all I could do was 2.12.xx
Oh well, probably some more chaps will fight at the back ;D

You're right  :o.

There was a meeting of Team Pseudo last weekend in Amsterdam. Here are a few pictures of the party:

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/198581/c7c8bbb2/handtasjespride_2008.html

Will take the 250 for a spin.

At least they fitted some brakes on the new version  :D

They don't.

I'm special. ;)

Yep...it's true....you can see us in each picture. (we are in that little 'smoking' cafe in the background  ;))

Forget the 2:09's, it was a false alarm... I have since realised that I had been driving one of the '76 corvettes!  :-[

Its just before the last right hander.

..........on the right

Have a good race all, I'm being dragged kicking and screaming to just south of Bordeaux where the local town is hosting a stupid wine festival.  Not my idea of fun.  :D  Hehehe.

Looks like no Legends at this race then, better remember to recall the tanker of Cinzano heading to Buenos Aires.

 :( Curiosly I'm mid 2.08's atm, way off my pb in the Fezza.

Are there multiple versions floating about or something, i've seen times on the Bude around the 2:01 mark in the 275!?

I might try and race this one.    As I don't often look at GTL I know sod all about pit stops etc.      I'm sure I've already downloaded the latest skin pack, so I will download the track and have a look tonight.   

Kerr, there are usually a few of us having a bit of informal practice online on Wednesday nights (normally about 10:30pm+)... so you'd soon find out then if you're missing a car/track/skin installs that way. Might see you later.

Bring a bottle

I usually try to practice online as this negates any problems with incorrect track versions and the same with cars too.
I may try and join about 10.30 too, a bit of spying never does any harm!  :D
I take you mean on the SROU practice server Legzy?

That's the one, Martin, Ade, Tony, Ginsters & myself (sometimes others too) tend to show up about then. After about an hour or so of practice we sometimes have a little 2 lap practice race which is great fun serious stuff where we stick strictly to the driving guidelines set about in the UKGTL forums: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0  ;D

I will pop in tonight then. Maybe not too late as I'm up very early in the morning.

Thx for that gents, great fun :) Really helps to get a feel of other cars in a warmup, especially with 10 or so there. Should be a cracker tomorrow.

Great turn out tonight, ready to get the new season kicked off tomorrow  :jumpjoy:

So I'm assuming I need the GTL skins up in the downloads area (and the track obviously). I'm still not sure if I'm going to make it. It clashes directly with a GRC I've been practicing for. And I almost feel like I'm being unfaithful. But an 80 minute race is bloody tempting!

So if anyone can point just what I need etc... So if I DO decide to do this one (while feeling incredibly guilty) I can.

I fully expect to be at the back.

Oh, another question: I'm coming from pretty much exclusively racing RF online. Since I've not raced GTL online at all I'm not sure of it's nuances. Anything I should know? (I'm reading the rules right now but would like to know anything else I should know.)

You'll need all of the following for tonight:
Skin Pack = http://files.filefront.com/UKGTL+skins+1650exe/;10838054;/fileinfo.html
Track = http://files.filefront.com/SRou+BuenosAires+1000exe/;11140293;/fileinfo.html
Car Mod 1 = http://files.filefront.com/UKGTL+db4+v1exe/;10835516;/fileinfo.html
Car mod 2 = http://files.filefront.com/UKGTL+F250+v2exe/;10835936;/fileinfo.html

I'll be there too, in a rather stylish black & yellow Elan. 8)

Be sensible off the start line & corner one particularly... but most importantly, enjoy.  :thumbup1:

and if you should accidently tap someone and they leave the track, wait, and allow them to rejoin and pass you.

Thanks. Grabbed all the files. I always take it easy off the line. Never try and be a hero. As Murray Walker says, a race isn't won the first lap, but it can be lost.


Already did that anyway, so no problems there. I am paranoid about people thinking I've crashed into them deliberately. If I let them go, it's obvious I didn't do it on purpose. :)

This race clashes 100% with my GRC race, so you may see me, you may not. Depends if I want to flush all that practice out the window to race a car and track I've never driven before. (Yeah, like I've never done that before!)

Which would folk say is the easiest car to drive from those available?

The Lotus Elite is the slowest, then the Renault Alpine. Both are easy drives.
The Lotus Elan 26R is a favourite and you would be competitive in this car. The Ferrari 275 is also a consideration along with the Aston Martin.

Me? Competitive? Please, anyone reading this who has maybe raced with me, please point this man to a physician because he is clearly delusional!  ;D

I think I may have to go with the Fezza. I am not a big Ferrari fan, but that car is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!

 :stupid:
Tony summed it up perfectly there.
I had a quick trot round last night in the Renault Alpine & I'm convinced it's the easiest drive in the class, it lacks a little on the straight but it corners superbly (add a notch or two of coast to stabilise the breaking).
If you'd had some practice then I'd also recommend the Elan but might be tricky jumping straight in.

EDIT - if you go with a Fezza, I reckon the 275 is easier then the 250. It also sounds great

Well the Renault is appealing. I like Renaults. (Must be the French influence living just two timezones away from Quebec.) The Ferrari is appealing though. If I'm going to be slow, it'll be in style.

Oh, incidentally, despite having raced sims for 15 years now, I am hopeless at setting a car up! Just thought I'd mention it.

Seriously siding with racing at Buenos Aires rather than my GRC race. This is for points! That one is for fun.

We'll see. I will need to make sure I get some practice in! (Got the files downloaded, but it's 4am now and I should probably get to bed.)

Thanks for the advice guys!

And don't forget to change your PLR file for the pit stops, (4) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
  see you on track  ;D

I can't set Gtl cars up either. I've played Gtr2 that often I can stick together a reasonable set up within laps but I can't seem to set a gtl car up.        I did a little practice last night and posted a couple of respectable times in the lotus, but in between making too many errors.        I need to try and set the car so it does not keep scrubbing all it's speed off on turn in but can't seem to make it happen.        I will do a bit more practice prior to the race and make sure I'm ready to race as I'm not at the moment. I also better have a look at pit stops in gtl.

@Spadowski
Ade & Kerr raise good points, you have to complete at one pitstop taking on fuel or tyre change.

So you need to locate the pit lane (right hand side before last right hand turn) & maybe do a practice pitstop or two. A lot of people (me included) get stop/go penalties for forgetting to use the pit speed limiter (& that the limiter turns itself off in GTL while you're mechanics are busy working) or approach their pit crew to fast & have to reverse. Worth a practice or two.

ill try to be there

I've read this a few times now as obviously it's on the race rules. However I've no idea where I find these options. Help!

I've tried a few pit stops in offline races and as soon as I go over the pit line the computer drives me right into my pit. I guess this is what I need to stop for one?

Also what is the common strategy, half and half, of fill the tank up etc?

The file you need to edit will be located somewhere like this:
C:\GTL\UserData\Legzy\Legzy.PLR

Open that file with notepad & look for the lines that say:


Put the 1's & 0's in the right places. Good luck  :)

In GTL I do the same as GTR2 - brim the tank and only add what I need at the stop. GTL is much more about the tyres anyway.

Thanks got it now.

I've changed them over now and I full control of my pit stops. Going by GTR2 experience that's not a good thing.

I will have to remember to set pit limiter myself.

Also, I notice that you don't need to stop the engine to carry out pit stop, is that right?

Any more tips for pit stop?

 Just my thoughts 8)

Can't  join the practice server. It says it may be different from my game. I'm patched, I have the skin set, the Aston and the Ferrari, and the track... Just want to make sure I'm not panicking without good reason as I really don't want to miss the race.

Edit: Actually I might be losing my mind.

Did you use the practice password?

It's telling me "host may be running a different or modified game"?! Hope this is just me being a bonehead.

Edit: Yep, can't get on as I keep getting that message. NOOOOOO!

Password will be this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929.0 until race starts, when see above.

You must use dl links from here only but you've got all the necessary as far as I can see :'(

I've got the track, the skin pack. I install the cars (Aston, Ferrari, even installed the McLaren) THEN the skin pack. Game is greyed out. When I go to join I get that message:( And yes, I got all the files from here.

Game clearly says 1.1.0.0 in the corner.

With pracci password?

Erm, you've done it all I think :'( You can join other servers ok?

Just tried a bunch of other servers, and no. "Host may be running a different or modified game".

ARGHHH!

I have Starforce removed. That wouldn't be causing it would it? (Since I have a friend with the same and seems to be running just fine online for him.)

I'm going to see what I can sort out, but I am gutted right now:(

Sounds like you aren't running the 1.1.0.0 patch - yes, Starforce removal could be causing it.

I am definitely running the patch, but I'm redoing it now just to make sure I hadn't broken something in all my fiddling.

If it's Starforce I'm going to be very upset. I had one system damaged before. I am not risking it again. But my friend doesn't have it and it works. *sob*

Still nothing. I was so looking forward to this :'(

I've got starforce on this and the old PC and never had a problem with it. :-\

Can't think of anything that you haven't already tried I'm afraid. :(

Hope to see you on the grid May the Force be with you  :sorcerer:

I won't go into details, but Starforce most definitely damaged my older machine.

I am just gutted. I'd gotten so excited about this, much more so than RF. And now this.  :'(

I'm screwed. I just repatched, even deleted my player and started again and nothing.

I'm so sorry :-\ I was really looking forward to this and felt this was going to be great.  :'(

I am just so disappointed. :'( Two years I've had GTL and waited for Starforce to be removed. (Came with GTR2.)

Gutted for you :-\ There's always next week :)

If you need to test anything/any help in meantime just shout here. Pracci server is running 24/7.

Well, the game keeps crashing while loading drivers. I think it's crashing on Baracus specifically. I have the skinpack 1.6.5 installed.

same here with Baracus!

Well, at least I'm not the only one.

Not got the latest Ferraris, so won't be able to race, my dl speed too slow at Filefront.

No one said there was an updated Ferrari 250!

Something always goes wrong at Enduros >:(

Cya next week guys.

I would advise you to have another read.....it has been said a few times.


It has been available for a good few weeks....even a very slow download would have been able to get it in time.  ;) had they done the above... :laugh:

Nightmare for me.

not had an awful lot of praccy time for this...but got into the 2:08's with the e type so was quite confident of a reasonable race.
Then my Table broke during warm up...(I didn't even go on track)....spent the whole of praccy and qually trying to sort it and then joined with 1 second to go on countdown. :o
fix worked ok for t1.....then bust again. Spent next few laps with the wheel between my legs  :laugh: (glad I'm not female) but it all got too much so quit out.

Off to visit the girlfriend now....(whawha whaaaaa) the results may be slightly delayed.  ;)

Grats sbg (unless you crashed or had ctd) and the other podiums.

DAMMIT

My internet connection just went down, i think my modem is broken, how i hate this.

if i had another modem i instantly break mine with a hammer.

SBG you were very fast, i couldn´t get you even with my rocket start, i was waiting to see what happened in the pit stop, but i got connection lost.

 >:( Utterly effed off car ran out of juice even though it was showing quarter of a tank on hud! Unbelievable. I made sure I put in 20 laps worh with 12 to go in my pitstop.
A sorry end to some good racing.
Almost glad I can't do many of these 'cos of shifts, that's how narked I am.

:lol:

Finished the 250 3 laps down...  :sweatdrop:

Good show Sandor!

Why on earth did I pick the Cobra? ::)
Ended up having to pit twice for tyres, they were only lasting about 12 laps.

Sorry to Pribeiro for the tat at t1, I'd forgotten how :censored: the brakes are on the Cobra. :-[

Didnt begin very well the first event.
After been hit twice at first corner, i was dropped to last at the very first one lap.  :P
My strategy was blowed by then.  :-\
Was hit also,two times a bit later (thanks for waiting guys).  :)
Near the end, i hit Spanner, loose my braking point (noob) very very sorry mate.  :(
And then, aiming to a huge astonishing final, i got out of fuel in the S/F straight
entering on last lap  :-X ::) :o
Although all this, i had fun driving the DB4 around, but it only runs well
after the 5000 revs, still, we have to be some throtlle carefull after the 5500 or the rear
will slide very easy.
Cheers

Bugger, sorry you missed it but it has been plastered everywhere as I forgot to install it for last one :'( Hope to see you both, and Dan who was having same problem?, next week.

Great turn out everyone, especially nice to see the GS team and some new faces tonight :) That makes Pseudos and mine hard (well its not that tough  ;)) work a pleasure. With the Leg-ends to return next week lets expect a full house, get there early  ;D

Like last week, felt hooked up and comfortable tonight. Can't say I feel the same about the 911 so it'll be a return to norm next week. Congrats to the podium and tough luck Matt, you must join us again.

Very surprised at the result, by far my best result in my very few GTL outings.

Never managed a clean lap in qualification. Was having a flyer and was not too amused chasing a car that had just left the pit lane. He ended up ruining my lap and then blocked me tripping over another back marker on the last bend.

Started 5th and I was soon up to 3rd. Madd-Rip was putting me under lots of pressure but I was determined to try and hold my own. Madd had a spin and the was me in the clear.

The two cobra were well gone by this stage but I kept pushing on. The gap between me and the 2nd cobra began to come down and it was clear Madd was catching me too.

Madd caught and got the run on me, so I had no option but to leave the door open and he was gone.

The 2nd Cobra suffered a disco and that was me back into third.

I made my pit stop the lap after Madd and made a huge amount of time on him. I opted for a splash of fuel and no tyres.

After the pit stops SBG was gone and I had a good lead over Madd in third.

I well chuffed with 2nd.

Grats SBG

LOL Tibernius   ;D

 :( what makes it more annoying Brian is I made sure about the fuel and still ran out, that's why you probably got so far in front, although I bet your tyres were shot!
Nice scrap though.

By the way, congratulations Mr. SBG  :notworthy: (what the hell you did to that Cobra chassis ?)   :whistling:

A race of ups and down, running well early on with some good racing but I seemed to be trying to get back to where i should have been after getting tangled up with other people especially those a lap down :( Then ended back running with Legzy and Evert but couldnt quite get back on terms as i was sliding too much.

I think it was only the last maybe 6 laps the tyres were struggling and I was dropping about 2.5 secs a lap. Until then my lap times were consistent.

Won't be there if it's Starforce since there's only one way to "fix" that and I am NOT having that on my system again. Not after last time.

Very disappointed. But maybe I can join the GTR2 league if I'm welcome there.

I've had Starforce on 2 PCs and never had any problems with it. :-\

Mixed bag for me!

Found a last minute sweek to my set up that worked wonders!

Up to about 5th in the first few laps, with some very close racing!
Eventually stuck behind keith's very wide F275!
Great close racing but I eventually made a very small error and gave keith a little bump out of the last corner!
Pulled over to let him rejoin but no sign!? Eventually rejoined back in 12th very puzzled!
Made good progress back up the field and was very surprised to meet Keith half way through the race!?
Not sure what happen? in that case! may be you saved the potential spin and carrried on! Oh well! sorry anyway, my fault!

Put in some reasonable lap times and was up to 4th with a very late pit stop that left me 5th.
Pushed hard with worn tyres but team mate tinman was closing fast!
Kept him at bay until the last couple of laps until Tinman asked for warp factor 3 !  ;D
He was flying and it was all I could do to keep in front, relieved that it was not a lap longer race!

Team Oldie 5th, 6th and 11th !? not too shabby for us! oldies!  ;)

Thanks all, a great fun close race as usual.
Great start to the season!

Good to see Ruskus' ghost is still alive with those maniac cobra's at the front!
How do they do it!?

M.

Mmm, seems I missed all the talk about it on the Crystal Palace thread as I was away on holiday & didn't read it ::). Sorry.

Don't have to say sorry mate, these things happen and are unfortunate. As one of the mod team, all i can say is we are sorry if folk miss out.....we try our best to ensure all info is available to everyone but sometimes it is overlooked and sometimes we don't think to say it again, when it may be appropriate to do so.

anyway...results and replay available above

Really enjoyed that  ;D didn't expect to get third  :o  kept it clean for the whole race :yes: for a change. made a mess of the pit stop ??? tried to move up and down the pit board and my seat just moved back and forth  :D remind me to sort those buttons out,   had to settle for new rubber and hope the fuel would last. not used to saying this, but the back markers were great when being lapped :thumbup2: bad luck Madd-rip and pribeiro with the fuel shortage, it is rather expensive these days ;) saw the cry for help pribeiro and drove past on the second to last, didn't fancy pushing you round for a full lap  :D tried to give you a push on the last lap but you wouldn't budge,sorry i couldn't help  :(

I am very happy for you. I hear this all the time. That doesn't mean other people don't. I've never seen a Russian. Doesn't mean Russia doesn't exist. Both myself and my best mate back in the UK had some very serious issues. We are not neophytes to computers. I have even done a ton of research into Starforce for a piece I wrote way back in 2005. The information on how it works, and the issues it can cause, are all out there online. I could go into long, explicit details, but I'll spare folk. Anyone who wants to know can PM me.

One thing did occur: Is there ANY chance this could be the difference between the UK and US release? The version I have was bundled with GTR2 when I bought it. I recall GP3 having this issue. The US version wouldn't work with the UK version. I have a friend who has done exactly what I did with GTL: Blown the dust off their GTL disk, installed and copied the unprotected stuff over the top, and he can race online just fine. I can't. So clearly there is, potentially, some other issue at work here.

I'm tempted to grab the DVD image and try installing from that. Maybe somewhere deep in it's bowels there is a difference that is causing this. I really want to join this league as slinging old cars about for an hour or so every week is... Well I don't think I've been this excited since my first race in GPL all those years ago.

I'll keep plugging away, see if I can sort this out, but Starforce is NOT an option under any circumstances.

I am still hopeful I will get to see you fine folk on track.

Don't want to seem intrusive, however,

I'm noticing on the Season point totals so far this year, that 7 people scored points when they shouldn't have (The ones who didn't finish the race) - Based on my original idea on how to place points in Enduros

Were the point totals automated or were they manually entered?

What a totally odd race - gained a couple of places at the start from people who can't count down from 3 (or who are silly enough to not have the big countdown timer), then promptly proceeded to watch absolutely everything on track obliterate my little Healey down the front straight. The Elans were quicker. Everything else was stupidly quicker.

Spent the middle 60% of the race pottering round, seriously contemplating giving up as I had nobody at all to race. After my stop I came out just ahead of the cars I'd been trying to hang on to earlier, which meant that unless their stops went very wrong I was now a long way down. :-\

Kept plugging away and eventually caught API and Keith who repeatedly went off and then repassed me on the front straight. That was just so frustrating but I had the last laugh finishing ahead of both after Keith went off on the penultimate lap and I built enough of a gap to beat him to the line.

If I'd known the Healey was going to be so hopelessly off the pace I wouldn't have bothered TBH. ::)

and I thought Healey's ruled Dave!!

especially in your very capable hands !?  ;D

( from the numerous posts !?   ;D)

 :jumpjoy:

I for one was glad to see you stick to your favoured car Dave, in spite of the fact it was off pace here. Otherwise it would have been just a Cobra/Elan fest.

As we use ALL class cars in GTL enduro, I think it would be good to introduce the car change penalty as in GTR2 to make folk stick to the same car each class race. We still get the variety through sprints.

They do... if they're up against some more evenly matched opposition.

I even spun last night when distracted by Tib's rotating Cobra, most unlike me when running alone on the track.

Please don't do this. If you want to mix up the field a bit just prohibit the popular cars on a per race basis.

Seconded, part of the difficulty for me is the wide range of choice of cars at each circuit and the time it takes to decide which you think you will be quickest
in and then spending time improving the set up!

I for one tried at least 6 different cars before deciding on the Elan!

However I would say that I would actually like to get to grips with things like the cobra etc. but will never choose it unless forced to do so as I
currently can only be consistently slow and eratic in it!

Lets face it it is rare for the Elan to be the car of choice!

M.

 ;D

My Prodigy team-mates will testify that I have stated to them that it is my intention this season to deliberately chose cars that I probably would not normally consider, hence the TVR last night. In the end it didn't work out to bad for me. But on a personal level I have a huge amount of satisfaction from perservering with what was at times a real love/hate relationship.
If I had to choose a car for a whole season I wouldn't even begin to consider a "hard" car. In fact wouldn't everyone choose the easy options?

It was odd that we were kind of together then you seemed to disappear for a while & suddenly you were back again (like a bad smell  ;) ). But you got me in the end, I got my third cut track warning with about two laps to go & it cost me two positions  :(
Still, I would definitely have taken 12th spot before the race & was over the moon to manage about 40 mins before my 1st spin (that's amazing for me). If only my team-"mates" ahead had not misunderstood my team orders to make sure they finished behind me. They were kind enough not to lap me on the final lap home straight  ;D Well done team Oldie! (& the podium guys)

maybe something to think about car-choice and endurance racing to get as many different cars in the field.

What if every driver from a team has to pick a different car ? 

Just for example Team Oldie Racing .
4 drivers, and all were driving the Elan .
If they were forced to pick a different car there would be a larger variety in the field.
When they still pick the same car, the slowest one will get a no-point finish .

Would make the championship a lot more interesting.

 :laugh: nice idea....but there aren't enough cars to give ALL the prodogies a different one  :angel: :laugh:

Not really likely to be changing anything....I just don't like to see a full field of just one or two car types because they are the most competetive ones....I much prefer to see a wider range on track....just looks so much better.

I must say I did enjoy the race last night. I wish there was more days in the week to make time for racing gtl too.      I'm afraid my grasp of this game is very limited, think that was my 3rd ever race and offline my game is only 6% complete.      I don't have an understanding of what car is what and still not got around to unlocking all the cars. What is the cheat again?         Once I stole a couple of Simons set ups I was ok driving the 275 and healy, but thought I'd go with the Lotus.    I put practice in using the Lotus completely unaware that it was going to be the car of choice.    I will try and make some time to practice using other cars to get the grasp of them before the next time I appear.

Couldn't disagree more.  :wetfish:
I've basically driven very few of the cars in the game & I was determined to use the corvette here (having used the Abarth instead of the Falcon last week). I practiced & practiced with it & was getting quite competitive in it too. Then I realised I was in the '76 Corvette, gutted!
So after that as you can see, I tested a few others: Cobra / TVR / Elan / Corvette '65 / Alpine (was a very comfortable/consistant drive & would have been my 2nd choice for the race but was some 5 seconds per lap slower in this then I was in the Elan).

So after lots of testing I figured that the Elan was the best bet for me from the cars available for this race. It does not mean that I will necessarily want to drive it at the next GTC-65 Enduro.
I think that if you limited everyone to one car for the Enduro season you're handicapping us newer/slower drivers more as we need all the help we can get to stay anywhere near you faster chaps! Maybe if there is an obvious car choice for future races, the guys at the top of the championship might avoid picking that car? (Like Ginsters demonstrated last night, in can be done & I bet he worked hard for that win)

Currently I can get to pick the 'best fit' for my driving level on the chosen track, that's the way I hope it remains even if the cars choice is reduced slightly.

My computer went Kaput late on Monday.  Took opportunity to upgrade, graphics card failed - went for a multi cpu, 4M RAM and a 8800 GT.  Frame rate (Ctrl F) varied between 74 fps on the start finish straight and 103 fps out in the country.

Didn't get much time to practice until yesterday evening.  Screwed up the start (more interested in the start frame rate, 64 fps) and stalled.  Other than that an uneventful race.  Lost 2 places (Alex and psuedo) when my wife distracted me and I had to go down the escape road.  Had an off trying to catch up before I settled down again.  Had a long pit stop for repairs and rejoined the race over a minute behind and ahead so I had a steady drive to the finish.

Bill

Well, there was a fair splattering of cars last night and fair play to the gents that chose the less competitive cars :) I would be in favour of leaving it as it is for enduro as that is why we setup in the first place. I, and I don't think I'm alone here, choose the car I have most fun with on that track and don't worry about the scores as much as the sprints, last night it was the Cobra but I'm sure I'll use the Healey somewhere down the line (if only to prove I'm the fastest  ;) ). Think it should be remembered that the GTC65 prolly has the biggest performance gap and ideally could be split into two divisions which might be an idea for S7. The 76'ers will be closer next time and I'll be in the GT40 or McClaren anyways  :)

Forgot to mention that standards amongst the leaders and those that I lapped were excellent last night. Lets keep that up  :)

Just out of interest I wonder what car the Elan drivers would have chosen had the Elan not been available?

Another thought for S7 Enduro's could be that you can only drive each car once, so for example I couldn't drive the Elan again in the rest of the Enduro season. Therefore mixing the cars up but I could plan to choose the Elan when I need it the most. It seems funny talking about s7 after one (great) race in s6.

Renault Alpine with a lap PB of 2:13 but consistant laptimes.

Damn.. Had only just got back off holiday and was itching to race so didnt see the new car. ::)   It was very frustrating tyring to do set up tweaks having to press the buttons in between 4 or 5 names flashing up....took me half off qually to put 20 laps worth of fuel in . :o :D

Good race up till i got punted off and quit,  As Dave said about the start manage to pass about 10 cars down the s/f straight and ended up 5th at the end of lap one after starting 16th or something!! ;D

Itching to do some more racing after being away for a couple of weeks, got an invite from iracing the otherday so will be trying that out soon as . ;D

see ya next time

Ok, after much ribbing from my Team mate....

Thanks to Legzy for the last minute tweak!
He's very keen at the moment! and I get the benefit!  ;D

Legzy, your the best! better than all the rest !!  ;D ;D

and he's just done my profile picture too!!  ;D

I'm afraid I am the one who punted you. You surprised me breaking a lot earlier than I did and couldn't stop in time.
Waited for you but when you didn't show continued just to feel so rotten that I made a few sidesteps and ended up almost at the back of the field.
Sorry again and better luck next time.

See you,
Evert

Had a look on the net earlier, I didn't know it could cause that many problems. :-\

What about installing it with SF, patching it, making sure it works then removing SF? Maybe that would make a difference? It doesn't cause any problems if it's only on the PC for 1/2 an hour does it? :-\

Or try the Historic Mod for rFactor ;D. It's better than GTL :D

Maybe it is but this championship is called "UKGTL" not "UKHistoricModForrFactor". ;)

Unfortunatly ;D

No worries Evert.

Can we call it: UKHMFR ?   8)

I agree with you Jeff, HistoricGT is better than GTL (physics and sounds)  :)

Sssst, you're not allowed to say that here..... :ninja:

What the hell, nothing is better than GTL, it´s impossible with the tools this moment on the market.

from Rfactor nothing can come out straight

Could one tell me how I would find the lap chart for this race?