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Question: What class will you be driving?  (Voting closed: June 15, 2008, 07:57:22 AM +0100)
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  • U Le Mans: June 15, 2008
June 15, 2008, 08:25:18 PM +0100 - Le Mans (Sarthe (2006+)) - UKGTR
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Kerr
 Team Shark Junior
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#4108) GT1 2 +0.339
139.939mph
1 2:13:08.364
121.291mph
31 4:00.475
129.973mph
Michelin  
Joss
 Team Shark Junior
Saleen S7-R (#4004) GT1 1 3:43.010
140.152mph
2 +4.015
121.230mph
31 3:58.800
130.885mph
Pirelli  
Reign Man
 Team Pseudo Racing
Maserati MC12 (#4034) GT1 4 +1.821
139.017mph
3 +1:04.435
120.320mph
31 3:59.094
130.724mph
Pirelli  
sooty1977
 Snails Pace Racing
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#3018) GT1 10 +8.796
134.834mph
4 +2:13.294
119.300mph
31 4:07.076
126.501mph
Dunlop  
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Saleen S7-R (#4005) GT1 3 +0.763
139.674mph
5 +3:22.998
118.285mph
31 4:00.480
129.970mph
Pirelli  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Saleen S7-R (#4004) GT1 6 +4.526
137.364mph
6 +1L
114.634mph
30 4:01.862
129.228mph
Pirelli  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4087) GT2 17 +23.865
126.604mph
7 +2L
112.978mph
29 4:21.047
119.730mph
Pirelli  
Andy Eves
 
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo (#3102) GT2 16 +22.249
127.438mph
8 +1:26.733
111.770mph
29 4:22.485
119.075mph
Pirelli  
James101
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#3016) GT1 12 +17.125
130.157mph
9 +2:57.701
110.530mph
29 4:13.252
123.416mph
Pirelli  
Paul Richards
 Kerb Crawlers
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#4108) GT1 5 +1.955
138.934mph
10 29 4:02.825
128.715mph
engine
Michelin  
Jorgen Wahlby
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lister Storm (#3014) GT1 9 +5.413
136.831mph
11 +10L 21 4:05.427
127.351mph
unknown
Michelin  
spanner
 
Saleen S7-R (#4004) GT1 11 +10.323
133.951mph
12 +12L 19 4:09.598
125.222mph
unknown
Pirelli  
stnasky
 Team RVS
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#4108) GT1 8 +5.090
137.024mph
13 +15L 16 4:05.275
127.430mph
unknown
Michelin  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm (#3015) GT1 14 +18L 13 4:12.999
123.539mph
suspension
Michelin  
Busi
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#4024) GT1 7 +5.076
137.033mph
15 13 4:09.845
125.099mph
unknown
Michelin  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4050) GT2 18 +24.329
126.366mph
16 13 4:23.098
118.797mph
unknown
Michelin  
baracus250gt
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4065) GT2 13 +21.269
127.949mph
17 +20L 11 4:22.542
119.049mph
accident
Pirelli  
will16v
 Prodigy Racing
Maserati MC12 (#4034) GT1 18 +23L 8 4:34.049
114.050mph
suspension
Pirelli  
David M
 
Maserati MC12 (#4034) GT1 14 +21.605
127.773mph
19 +28L 3 4:46.485
109.099mph
unknown
Pirelli  
JPS
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4065) GT2 15 +22.078
127.527mph
20 +29L 2 4:36.651
112.977mph
suspension
Pirelli  
API
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4050) GT2 19 +1:03.862
108.952mph
21 +30L 1 6:35.318
79.064mph
unknown
Michelin  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT1
3:43.010
140.152mph
Joss
Qualifying
Saleen S7-RJune 15, 2008, 08:25:18 PM +0100
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« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2008, 04:24:20 PM +0100 »

ah, good point on the revs reduction DG, had forgotten that ! Embarrassed

Le Mans is all about endurance as well as ultimate speed so down-tuning the engine slightly is fine by me !
Be interesting to see how many detonate their engines here. Shocked

Are we going to use lightscaling for this one? Not tried the track at dusk/evening yet but bet it looks fantastic  Cool
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« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2008, 05:42:17 PM +0100 »

ah, good point on the revs reduction DG, had forgotten that ! Embarrassed

Le Mans is all about endurance as well as ultimate speed so down-tuning the engine slightly is fine by me !
Be interesting to see how many detonate their engines here. Shocked

Are we going to use lightscaling for this one? Not tried the track at dusk/evening yet but bet it looks fantastic  Cool


Drop the revs then you will kill your top speed. Badly.

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« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2008, 08:09:49 PM +0100 »

Are we going to use lightscaling for this one? Not tried the track at dusk/evening yet but bet it looks fantastic  Cool

No - the track is pretty hard on FPS in the daylight, weather plus night will kill a lot of people's machines.

3:55 now in the Lambo in race trim, 'interesting' tyre combination required mind!
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« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2008, 09:06:29 PM +0100 »

Are we going to use lightscaling for this one? Not tried the track at dusk/evening yet but bet it looks fantastic  Cool

No - the track is pretty hard on FPS in the daylight, weather plus night will kill a lot of people's machines.

3:55 now in the Lambo in race trim, 'interesting' tyre combination required mind!

One thing about the Lambo Dave, are you sure you can make it on 2 stops?

I was using 8.99L per lap and was thinking I would really require the formation lap and the 2 pit stops to try and help.

The fuel will be very stretched and I would need to reach the pits with next to nothing left in the tank.
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« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2008, 09:25:27 PM +0100 »

One thing about the Lambo Dave, are you sure you can make it on 2 stops?

Nope - but remember that the experimental pack gives it a 105 litre tank so there's a tiny bit more capability in it than standard.

TBH I'm going to lose out a lot on the straights anyway so I'm hoping for rain!
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« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2008, 09:53:25 PM +0100 »

One thing about the Lambo Dave, are you sure you can make it on 2 stops?

Nope - but remember that the experimental pack gives it a 105 litre tank so there's a tiny bit more capability in it than standard.

TBH I'm going to lose out a lot on the straights anyway so I'm hoping for rain!

I was taking into account 105L tank, but the extra 5L here is slightly more than half a lap.

I was guessing that the race would be 32 maybe 33 laps, if dry. 32x 8.99L per lap is 287.7L. Not much to play with when the laps are so long.

 
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« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2008, 10:07:47 PM +0100 »

I was taking into account 105L tank, but the extra 5L here is slightly more than half a lap.

I was guessing that the race would be 32 maybe 33 laps, if dry. 32x 8.99L per lap is 287.7L. Not much to play with when the laps are so long.

You'll have 27.3l to play with, that's 3 laps. That should be enough by far.
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« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2008, 11:59:57 PM +0100 »

I was taking into account 105L tank, but the extra 5L here is slightly more than half a lap.

I was guessing that the race would be 32 maybe 33 laps, if dry. 32x 8.99L per lap is 287.7L. Not much to play with when the laps are so long.

You'll have 27.3l to play with, that's 3 laps. That should be enough by far.

Yes it leaves a spare 27.3l, if you return to the pits on exactly empty at end of each stint.

8.99L per lap would mean after 11 laps you have used 98.89L, you only have 6.11 left which will not see you around again.

32 laps will be the minimum in the dry. If it does not fall kindly it will be tight.




It's a bit like the 3 men who go into an electrical store to buy a TV.

They each have £10, 3x10=£30 and strangely they see a TV on offer at that price.

They make the purchase and just as they are leaving the store the sales assistant notices the TV was actually reduced by £5.

He takes 5 £1 coins out of the till and chases after the guys.

On the way he was trying to work out how he could divide £5 between 3 people.

He could not. So he thought stuff it, I'm doing them a favour anyway. They did not expect any money back.

From the 5 £1 coins he takes 2 of them leaving 3 £1 coins left.

He gives 1 £1 coin back to each of the 3 guys meaning each had spent £9.

However 3x£9=£27 add £2 =£29. Where is the missing pound?
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« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2008, 07:13:11 AM +0100 »

Fuel consumption never stays the same over a whole race, and usually it decreases. It's up to the driver to make sure he makes it, and if that means making stops on only certain laps, stretching it to the limit, than that is what it requires.
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« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2008, 07:35:47 AM +0100 »

I'll get lapped in any case. Grin I showed how easy it is to save fuel if you need to at Road America, running for over an hour in the Lambo.

However 3x£9=£27 add £2 =£29. Where is the missing pound?

I hope your pit stop calculations are better than your deductive mathematics: -27 + 2 + 25 = 0
The world is in balance once again.
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« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2008, 09:41:06 AM +0100 »

Down to 4:06 in the RSR now after a few more laps. Still unconvinced on rear wing setting. More testing needed.
I am wondering how much time is lost through the twisties compared to time gained on the straights with such a low wing config.
An awesome track this. Real shame we wont be using lightscaling..cant we at least see some dusk? I hadnt noticed any FPS hit on the track.
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« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2008, 08:12:15 PM +0100 »

I've been putting in a bit of practice today trying out a few cars.

There is an open server running practice session 1 all day.

I had a bit of fun in the Vette. If feels very nice and I can lap in the 3.45s in qualifying and 3.46s in race.

Normally a car I hate the 550 seems to sit really nice here, or I've been lucky with my set up.

I can do 3.42s in qualifying trim.
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« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2008, 08:50:45 PM +0100 »

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Down to 4:06 in the RSR now
Looking at the testing times from the recent real life test the RSR's are doing 4.05 so this version seems real good in comparison. Smiley
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« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2008, 10:38:59 AM +0100 »

Phew, not too far off the real world pace then in my RSR  Cool Wonder if Flying Lizards will sign me up?  Tongue laugh

Tried the MC12 out around it last night, takes a lot of friggin setup work to get it right, just tyres and gears alone took quite a few lap attempts.
Feels great blatting around in a GT1 here, as cockpit view makes you feel like your in a prototype in the Massa.
But the porker feels like a dream, handling wise compared to this beast. I've had to give it -0.20 toe and 1.0 camber on the rear to stop the inside tyres catching fire on the straights !!!?  Huh..weird, i think there is something buggy about the MC12. Its like its got pre-cambered axles to make the inner edge dig into the tarmac.
The rears increase by about 10psi as they get warmer so you have to start with low rear pressures and let it come to you over a lap or two. Shocked

ps real world Le Mans qually is on eurosport tonight  Cool
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« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2008, 11:13:23 AM +0100 »

Might be a bad choice on the reliabilty front, but the 360 P horse for me Grin, will really need to nurse things around here on the setup...extract as much reliability as possible, but a pleasure to drive, even better now (loaded Thinlane engine sounds thanks to Mark Jonzo) the engine sings very nicely Cool. Down to 4:06 in Quali.
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