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« on: September 25, 2009, 03:10:46 PM +0100 » |
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Special Starting Procedure for this raceDue to the chicane (at about T3) being "quite tricky" for the tanks particularly, we have decided that we need to enforce a rolling start for this event. Therefore: The driver in Pole Position will lead off the rest of the grid at no faster then 80kph (50mph) till he is past the chicane. All other cars shall follow in single file with zero overtaking. Once you get past the chicane you can proceed to race as normal.If you have any questions on this, please ask before you get to the event Problems connecting to the Lobby? Download this:All members welcomePractice 1: 20:00 (20 mins) Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins) Race: 20:40 ( 19 laps (about 40mins)) note: no warmup!Cars allowed: Porsche 906/8, GT40 Gulf, Porsche 911 RSR 3L, Porsche 906/6, GT40 mk II, GT40 mk I, Porsche 911 IROC, Porsche 914/6, Shelby Cobra 427 Roadster, Ferrari 275 GTB Speciale, Chevrolet Corvette L88 Coupe, Lotus Elan, Shelby Daytona CoupeWeather: DryTrack: Watkins Glen (download from HERE) Time of Day Setting: 10:00 Start: STANDING Special Starting Procedure (See Above) Minimum Pit-stops: None required. Server: [PnG2.1] UKPnG S1 Password: see aboveNotes:(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage. (2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules especially the rules about in-game chat messages. (3) You will need to install Power and Glory v2 from here, 2.1 patch from here and enable terrain patch. (4) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of every-one's connection will be reduced.(6) Remember that P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function, but our gentleman's agreement is that everyone will stick to a speed limit for the pit-lane of 40mph/60kph.
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2009, 03:12:53 PM +0100 » |
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NOTE: Only cars of token values between 12 & 20 tokens will be used at this event.Clubmans & Tokens quick guide (see bottom for full details)- All drivers get a Tokens budget for the season
- The faster the driver, the less Tokens they get
- The better the car, the higher it's Tokens cost is to use in a race
- If you do not attend the race, you will lose a predetermined individual quantity of your Tokens (equal to races "Suggested Token Spend")
- Trust me, you do not want to run out of Tokens before the final race!
Tokens 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 | Cars Available Porsche 906/8 GT40 Gulf Porsche 911 RSR 3L Porsche 906/6, GT40 mk II GT40 mk I, Porsche 911 IROC Porsche 914/6, Shelby Cobra 427 Roadster Ferrari 275 GTB Speciale Chevrolet Corvette L88 Coupe, Lotus Elan Shelby Daytona Coupe Shelby Cobra 289 Coupe (Willment), Corvette L88 Roadster Shelby Cobra 289 Coupe (not Willment), Shelby GT-350R CASC Shelby Cobra 289 Roadster, Ferrari 275 GTB/C, E Type Jag Lightweight, Corvette L72 Coupe Shelby GT350 SCCA, Falcon Weslakeheads, Mustang ATCC, Alfa Volumetrico E Type Jag Coupe, E Type Jag Roadster Ford Mustang Trans Am, Ford Falcon Mann, Chevrolet z06 Coupe Ferrari 250 C, Mustang NTK, Alpine 1300 Alfa Romeo GTA Corvette L76 Roadster, Lotus Cortina Works Abarth 1000TC Gr5, TR4 Lotus Elite, Ferrari 250 B, Mini Cooper 1275s Healey mk 2
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Driver Name Ruskus Ayrton4_94 Paul968 Manteos Pippomox Lelero Madd-RIP Jos Verstappen Jose Arrogantio Pepz Ade API Minholos PR TrueTom IvAIAx Purdie Simon Gymer Blunder King icarus17 Mr_Oily PhSpok Psuedo Lazlow MJ SamB Mike Cook Andy Charman Dave Gymer Legzy Spanner Tim Robey JPV Geoffers Mcfids Tibernius Ross Picnic 57Goldtop Dave Shep BillThomas Wiltshire Tony OilSeal LigelC Lars Sch Jimmer Minton Burtoner
| Tokens (for season) 46 46 49 49 49 53 53 56 56 60 60 60 60 63 63 63 67 67 67 67 67 70 70 70 70 70 74 74 77 77 77 77 81 81 81 81 84 84 84 88 88 91 91 95 95 95 95 53? 70? | Tokens Remaining 20 +4 17 +4 21 +4 20 +4 20 +4 20 +4 22 +4 25 +4 31 +4 20 +4 34 +4 26 +4 20 +4 33 +4 20 +4 30 +4 18 +4 23 +4 28 +4 21 +4 32 +4 28 +4 30 +4 28 +4 28 +4 30 +4 23 +4 29 +4 39 +4 21 +4 31 +4 29 +4 36 +4 38 +4 30 +4 33 +4 40 +4 34 +4 34 +4 42 +4 35 +4 38 +4 45 +4 38 +4 38 +4 38 +4 38 +4 ? +4 ? +4 | Tokens Forecast** 4 1 3 2 2 0 3 4 10 -3 11 3 -3 9 -4 6 -8 -3 2 -4 6 1 3 1 1 3 -6 1 9 -9 1 -1 4 7 -1 1 7 1 1 7 1 2 9 1 1 1 1 ? ?
| Suggested Token Spend for this Race * 13 13 13 13 13 14 14 14 14 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 17 17 17 17 17 17 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 19 19 19 19 20 20 20 20 ? ?
| (Clubmans & Tokens Full Details guide to follow) * = This is also the amount of Tokens you will lose if you miss the race ** = Tokens forecast is taking account of the "+4 Tokens Bonus" & your per race "Suggested Token Spend".
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2009, 03:57:30 PM +0100 » |
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EXTRA INFO:(Repeated) I'm sure you've noticed I've made a bit of a tweak to the system. I've done this because I want to encourage people to take the chance to drive the different levels of fantastic cars that PnG has to offer.
I could be wrong, but it seemed like we were all almost afraid to splash out on anything more lavish then an Elan (13 tokens)!!! For some of the faster guys it's very hard to splash out as they obviously have smaller budgets, while maybe some of the guys with bigger budgets didn't want to splash out & find themselves up front on their own . So I have worked out some affordable 'token ranges' for each of the final four races of this test/fun season:
Race 4) Edmonton = 7 to 16 Token cars Race 5) Watkins Glen = 12 to 20 Token cars Race 6) Mid-America = 0 to 9 Token cars Race 7) Riverside = 3 to 12 Token cars
Some drivers may immediately be concerned that they "can't afford a car for the Watkins tokens range"... don't worry, you can . To go with the 'token ranges', I have also worked out a "Suggested Token Spend" for each person, for each race. You don't have to stick to your "Suggested Token Spend", but if you're close to it, you should be about on pace with most other people (= improved close racing) & finish the season on budget .
Cheers Legzy
p.s. Please remember that you get nothing for finishing the season with tokens to spare, but you will suffer badly if you spend more then your budget
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2009, 07:13:28 PM +0100 » |
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2009, 01:31:21 AM +0100 » |
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Hi, Legzy! As you...and WT...are aware, I've entered the year-end Xmas Festival LeMans affair in PnG. I've yet to run with the UK group owing to the time difference to me here in Canada. Is the UK PnG server available at times other than the posted races such that I can get in and confirm that I'm properly config'd? As in Terrain Patch, ISDN, etc... I think it essential that I do this prior to the Xmas go. TY. Doni
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2009, 11:16:15 AM +0100 » |
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Is the UK PnG server available at times other than the posted races such that I can get in and confirm that I'm properly config'd? As in Terrain Patch, ISDN, etc... I think it essential that I do this prior to the Xmas go.
Hi Doni, yes it's always up as long as there is no other GTL/GTR2 race on. To connect at the moment, you would obviously also need the current track (Edmonton) which you can download from the 1st post on this thread
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 09:50:05 PM +0100 » |
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3 to 12 tokens at the riverside?...bah, that would mean no IROCs and thats where they used to race in the IROC series ! I will be away for the Mid-America event so i might just squeeze enough tokens out for IROC at Riverside. Hmm, Watkins...IROC or RSR could be lots of fun, but then all those cars in the top half of list are pretty damn cool at a track like this. ps has anyone tried skinning any P&G cars yet? Would love an IROC done in the colour scheme of my own 911 if a paint wallah has some spare time? The white one would be almost perfect, just needs the side graphics made red and the Fuchs alloys red too
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2009, 01:37:05 PM +0100 » |
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Tokens Remaining, your Tokens Forecast & your Suggested Token Spend have all now been updated ready for Watkins Glen. While Purdie, Dave & Sam all continue to be the leading shopaholics (they will pay the price in the end) Ade, Jose, Tony & Andy all continue being the biggest Token hoarders... anticipate them spending more then their suggested tokens in the races to come
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2009, 06:26:20 PM +0100 » |
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2009, 08:32:16 PM +0100 » |
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hmm, thats not the Watkins Glen i was expecting Did we used to use a GP layout when we raced here in GTL ? There used to be a couple of good chicane/corner complexes that made the lap interesting/challenging.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2009, 08:48:18 PM +0100 » |
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It' s the '79 Layout Mark... It's a little bit different from the modern Watkins... but it's not so bad , only a bit more dangerous because of the proximity to the guard rail
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2009, 05:06:10 PM +0100 » |
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I am a tad bit confussed regarding the messages about the track we should be using.
The introduction post clearly states Watkins Glen (Long) which I have and is a great circuit. But when I downloaded the circuit it is Watkins Glen 1979, which has the stupid chicane at turn 2 in it. This ruins what in most versions including the original GPL version was a great corner demanding ones best to get it right.
The 'LONG' version has a chicane but its toward the end of the straight following Turn2.
I have just been on-line and there it was the 79 version that was running.
So is it the 'long' or the '79' version we will be using on the 20th.
Laurie
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2009, 06:16:55 PM +0100 » |
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The introduction post clearly states Watkins Glen (Long) which I have and is a great circuit. But when I downloaded the circuit it is Watkins Glen 1979, which has the stupid chicane at turn 2 in it.
There's only one track in the download so there's not much scope for confusion. Well, unless you count the fact that it's yet another track with a "cute" route out of the paddock which you can't find without a native guide. It's going to take me a bit of time to get used to that chicane on the way into the Esses though! I foresee the odd accident there...
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2009, 04:26:05 PM +0100 » |
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just tried out the 906/8 and the GT40 Mk1 around here, both feel superb but two very different drives. I think you may want to drop the 906/8 off the list as its going to kill any other cars around here. I was 6 seconds a lap faster in it over the GT. Admittedly i havent got a lot of laptime in the GT but try them both out and see for yourself. The 8 is just too good. What a sound that 906/8 makes makes you want to race a series using them only at some fast tracks (idea for the future?), its like a GP car from the 60's/70's. Two areas of concern on the track that people may want to be very wary of. 1) the first chicane at the hilltop left...if you hit the right hand kerb it will flip you over at worst or chuck you hard into the armco at the lightest ! So stay as central between kerbs as possible or use a bit of the left side kerb but even that un-settles the car badly if you try taking it with too much speed. Dampers may solve that. 2) the very last righthander before the s/f straight:- the racing line entices you into the right side of track that is seriously off camber. If you use it, the track tends to throw you right into the pitlane entrance/armco. After several buggered laps on the last corner, i started to stay wide left of it and power up the s/f straight instead. Still learning this track as dont remember any of this layout and every corner has its own varying lines to get right and its a long lap, over 2minutes. I wonder if its worth people starting to state what car they intend/likely to take in good enough time before race night? That way we can hopefully get good groups of like-specced cars to race against. I'm still trying out a variety at present whilst also learning the lap.
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2009, 04:58:13 PM +0100 » |
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By coincidence I've had an hour or so here this afternoon on what is also a new track for me. I took the Gulf out first and the 906/8 last with a few others in between and found the Gulf to be at least 4 secs a lap quicker than the porka. Haven't tried the MK1 Gulf which I know is much more of a handful, but then again I don't need to with my token budget
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