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S31 - 55 F1 - Fun Race – Monaco

Next Fun event with the 55s takes place at Monaco, the 55s track with the highest brake wear ...


The event is unmoderated – but the usual high standards are expected.

Works/Pro drivers should not use a silver car
 
Unlimited Shift R is allowed & there are no Stop & Go’s. But please be carefull...

Race list	iGOR
Server	UKGPL_8
IP address	look at IGOR
Date	13-08-2017
Track	Monaco
Mod	55F1 with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage	INT long
Race time	~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying	20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length	25 laps
Replay	get here (ftp://37.157.49.158:32122/Season31/Fun Races/)

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

GLA and FUN

Not Monacane for added machoscism realism then?  ;D

Monocane is not accurate in chicanery.  It's tighter than the real one was, and the camber approaching is tricky too.  Hope remains amongst the debris, for a 100% realistic version someday.
The recently released Update patch might have a replacement light bulb with it.  BTW, dashboards did not originally have green, yellow or red lightbulbs.  They're a modern GPL aid.  Originally, drivers could more easily feel their limit, and smell burning brakes.

OOOOOOH!!  Martin you are a tease!!   :o :o
 
Does this mean that the 55 modders are working on a "smellysim"!,  where we will be able to ignore the red lights and detect the deteriorating brakes with our olfactory senses????  All ex Wazas who have been trained to drive blindfolded with a white headband and only by sense of smell will have a huge advantage  ;D ;D ;D

Those guys at Mod Central are so clever. :o

I've sensed the Evil smell of victory has thusfar been missing from 1955.  Something else missing from the tracks, is tyre debris caused by overheating.  Tyre failure was modelled in later Sims.  Instead, ours eventually overheat and loose grip, for we talented few who corner askew habitually, or spin several times a lap.

There were no soft compounds before the 1960's.  Hard, old fashioned rubber remained inflexible, up to the point of melting.  No warmup needed for full performance.  Our guru's have stretched our rubberized tyre properties to their limit, to make them more as was. 

GP cars of pre-55 ilk, often needed new tyres mid-race.  That would mean brake fade, and tyre wear for us to battle with, and against.  Mod work has become low on talent, but if an earlier mod is someday completed, we may need to be high on talent to race it.     

I had my own version of that a few laps in when approaching the hairpin at the BA race. Hit the brakes and nearly s*!t myself. Didn't smell like brake dust though.

TTFN
John.

It could have been the brakes John! I understand that they tried some very inventive and agricultural compound mixes back in the day.....or that might be pure bullsh*t?? ::)

Lasted all of 20 seconds after the flag dropped before mayhem and my laptop overheated.

New computer needed for Grand Prix Legends. :(

Sorry the mayhem was my fault, Tim was very slow starting and I went to the left where Bastian allready was...

Not to worry Axel, I thought it was a great move.  I passed underneath one of you and was able to concentrate on the cars in front, there being nothing in my mirrors after the first corner.  First time that a Monaco start has ever worked in my favour!

And I've made the podium!!

I started from 5th on the grid but, as Axel has said, 4th and 3rd touched when the flag fell and all hell broke loose. Being up close to the incident helped because the cars were still in the air when I passed. Those behind were not so lucky and I exited T1 in 3rd and with not a soul in my mirrors. Perfect!

I was holding on to the two cars in front until the red one came to grief at the chicane. After that it was just Tim Muttram in front of me. The gap varied a bit as we each managed our brakes and I kept him in sight until about half distance.

I then had my usual low fps attack but this time there was nobody sat on my tail to hit me as I struggled through it. After that Tim was long gone and without me to think about he gradually pulled away.

The backmarkers who I encountered were very well behaved and didn't cause me to compromise my brake management, for which I was most grateful.

Congratulations to Tim on a great drive. I'm not yet fully converted back to gpl mode but I'm getting there. ;-)

Thanks to Axel for running the event. Doubt that I will make next week's race as we are moving house two days later and who knows when the internet will arrive at our new place. However, a full-on mancave is planned with a proper sim racing setup. After a full day of shifting heavy boxes, and the like, my back almost locked up on me as I squirmed about on my office chair. Can't wait!

That was my first race with UKGPL in the 55 beasts, and it's fair to say I haven't unlocked their potential just yet.

Managed a few laps before a misjudged move on Doni into Tabac ended in disaster. Sorry to see you retire after that Doni, my fault completely and one to learn when we're starting the season proper.

A few laps from then I was struggling with brake management so threw in the towel before I was a menace to any other unfortunate racers.

I was seriously impressed with the leaders managing to brake so late into the corners. When I tried that I cooked them straight away! The engine braking wasn't quite as strong as I was hoping for. More practice is needed methinks.

Struggeling with brakes a bit in the first half especially in the last two corners,
later a bit more conservative but there is still way to go. First Maserati drive,
ok but i just like my silver car.

No worries Axel, i hope you hab a good flight. ;)

Grats to the podium, but especially to Tim who I suspect has been practising with the Gordini and finding ways to make it fly around Monaco.

The pile up at the start effectively killed any chance of getting a taste of champagne, I think I was almost dead last when GPL allowed me to respawn.

Fighting my way back up through the field proved just how difficult it can be in these cars, trying to force the pace with brakes that vanish just when you need them. Another issue that I think I recognised for the first time in the new 55 cars is how difficult it is too avoid someone else's incident when you have no brakes. Twice I came upon road blocks with cars strewn across the track and although I had seen the yellow flags and eased off, there was no way of stopping myself joining in.

 I suspect that Monaco made this more noticeable with the limited space to take avoiding action, but it is something for everyone  to look out for in the coming season.

Gave this one a miss because I could not manage the brakes, or manage to drive without them. Looking at the results there were a couple of stand out performances
 Tim dominating the race in the little Gordini & Fran who seems to have worked out these cars. Even in the Merc 3rd place is impressive on what was pretty much a Pro grid.

Are you going to be changing your logon name to Billy 55 Can'tbrake?   ::)

Graham Poole came around a couple of weeks back to try out the 55mod.  He thought that six months solid practice might just get him in touch with the back row of the grid.

I'm impressed with the people who can do this as well as the other mods.  To me this is one on its own.  When I drove GPL before, the brake was part of the steering geometry!  You just can't do that with these beasts.  There is nothing quite so gratifying as hearing the tyres squeal as you change down!

Grats to Tim on a scintillating drive!  I watched him in qualifying and just marveled at his control.  Quite a treat to see.

Clive a fine, workmanlike job for a worthy P2 and Fran scoring a splendid podium.  Well done, gys.

Not to worry, Sam.  I was considering an early retirement as my connection seemed rather poor.  My latency bar was near the top for much of the first two laps.  Not good at any time but especially here at Monaco.  As for our collision, I was already in pussy-foot mode to preserve the brakes and that enabled you to pull up on my left.  I was just hoping that I was clear as I turned in.  50-50 on blame.

I really only wanted to run around starting at the back and pick off places as runners ran afoul of the hairpins with no brakes.  As a beta tester in this mod, I know full well its limitations.

Cheers guys - Clive was closest to the mark on this one. I have done a lot of practice here in the Gordini, although none of it was with this race in mind.
When the mod was released along with all the warnings about the shocking brakes, I decided that the best way to learn/prepare was to throw myself in at the deep end and beat Fangio's time in the Merc (On Monacane).
I managed to knock loads of time off the default setup, but as Monacane is so tight, I couldn't get close in the T16 - several of the 'bigger' cars got close enough to suggest they can beat it but only the Merc actually did.
When the Ranks went live and I discovered that they were using old Monaco I decided to have another shot at it in the Gordini as the ability to do the chicane flat amounts to a huge saving in brakes and therefore time - so I had a serious session one afternoon before giving up at about 1:41.7 (Whatever is shown in GPLRank at the moment - I haven't updated yet. Monacane was a 1:44.6 in contrast).

For last night I was tempted to punish myself in the Ferrari 625 as even after fitting the brake indicator mod I still didn't have a working light, I thought that maybe having to drive using the force would slow me enough to make it fairer. 10 minutes after making some minor tweeks to the Monacane setup and it's good for 3rd fastest on the rank tables and all I have to do to comfortably take the WR is put a clean lap in in so I pipped for the Gordini to keep the race 'fun'.

I was well chuffed with my qually time as it knocked 4 tenths off my previous PB, Fangio still has me by .2 though so as I still have room to improve that will be my next target for when I have some free time  ;D

Sorry to anyone caught up in Axel's flight of discovery - I put a message up in chat before the start of the race that the Gordini would be slow off the mark (you should all try it just to understand how rubbish it is at launching ;) ) but I guess not everyone had chat turned on.
Much as was the case for Clive, it gave me a massive boost for the race though as I didn't have to worry about being over powered on the run to T1 where the Gordini struggles the most. Once up the hill my technique for Monaco starts to come into it's own as I appear to have the advantage on brakes and handling for all of the tight sections - several times I was worried I'd run into the back of Tris, his Lancia was so slow! (From watching the replay it had far too much understeer for Monaco).
I was quite looking forward to the battle that was sure to come as passing a much faster car would prove highly tricky here, sadly on lap 2 Tris's engine blew at the chicane and robbed us of that race  :(

Well done to Clive on a solid 2nd, and as mentioned, to Fran on taking 3rd in this field.
Another mention should go to Bastian on his own fastest lap - if you take a look at it Vs myself, Tris and Clives own attempts you'll see you had most of the lap on the money  8) You just need to keep that consistent!

My race was quite regular,the only problem was one engine explosion with a long  S&G.Some problem with the brakes, like Bastian says,on the last 2 curves.The third position was due to regularity but mainly to the carnage at the start. ;D

Is Road America on for next Sunday?  I need to know when to pack the PC!   ::)

Yes, but with GT's  ;)

I need to drive something else...

Cheers Axel.  I'll put it in a box!

Remember tomorrow Funliga will race at the Isle of Man with 55s...

do we need a pass word to join the funliga server Axel??

Isle of Man with 55s  :o

The world record for number of resets in one lap is for tomorrow  :D

No PW needed for Funliga races  ;)

Why not a Road America with the CA66?

WOW

just did my first 2 laps...

Perfect match for the 55s!!!
Wonderful sweeping drive with no hard braking!

1x Reset in the first lap...