UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3) - Barcelona (GP) - Apr 27

[H@L9000]

Apologies to Hal for the tap on T5 (I think), just didn't brake early enough. Hope it didnt damage your car.

No probelm Ted, I seemed to be hitting the brakes earlier than all other Vipers. I took no damage from that, I just had to take the corner a little wider than usual

[Jimmie]

Even 2-1 wing didn't get me a much higher topspeed .

Wouldn't you put the front on 1 then? Having full front downforce yet lowest rear downforce creates a very oversteery car.


I have the feeling the M3's and Seats are still a bit faster then the GT3 RSR and 360 GTC (especially looking at the qualy times).

[Paul968]

Unofficial Race Report

[Mike Hammer]

I must admit, it did tickle me seeing BMW M3s pull up behind me get my slipstream, pull out and then have my Viper still hold it's own, forcing them to pass me under brakes, MOST amusing.

Perhaps it's the fun factor that makes you not mind that he will get a worse exit and thus be in your way, slowing you down, coming out of the turn.

[Jeffrey]

Wouldn't you put the front on 1 then? Having full front downforce yet lowest rear downforce creates a very oversteery car.

Splitter at 1 only makes it understeery, which the car already is too much . 2-1 Is indeed very oversteery, but that's the way I like it. With ARB of 130-100 I even increased the oversteer effect . I needed all the help with steering that beast .

I have the feeling the M3's and Seats are still a bit faster then the GT3 RSR and 360 GTC (especially looking at the qualy times).

Normally the RSR and M3 are of equal speed, maybe M3 a small bit quicker. So with current ballast they should be equal, and I think they are.
I think I'd be faster in the RSR than the Seat, but that's also because the RSR is so great to drive .

[Mark J]

i've missed most of the endurance races this season due to appeasing 'she who would like to be obeyed, but rarely is'.
I thought the classic Viper v Porker battle would even out over the season with different tracks suiting different cars...has it not panned out like that? I seem to remember that being the case in a R2p championship i was in a while back  
Shame if thats the case. I was contemplating a season using the Cup porker next time around if it was still a well supported class.

I was itching to race G3 last night and looking at the laptimes i could have been in for a shout of a podium, based on my practise times, and i like the GP track at Barcelona. But alas i did the decent thing and kept the injured missus company.  

Personally i think we should run a Porsche Supercup series  

[Jeffrey]

I must admit, it did tickle me seeing BMW M3s pull up behind me get my slipstream, pull out and then have my Viper still hold it's own, forcing them to pass me under brakes, MOST amusing.

Perhaps it's the fun factor that makes you not mind that he will get a worse exit and thus be in your way, slowing you down, coming out of the turn.

If the M3 holds up a Viper in the corners, the M3 driver is obviously doing something very wrong

[Simon Gymer]

Perhaps it's the fun factor that makes you not mind that he will get a worse exit and thus be in your way, slowing you down, coming out of the turn.

LOL, seriously Mike, nothing slows the Viper down in the corners no matter how bad the exit or entry is cause it's always 10 times slower than anything else when it's not pointing straight.

[Jeffrey]

Personally i think we should run a Porsche Supercup series 

Doesn't look that appealing to me 

[psuedo]

Personally i think we should run a Porsche Supercup series   

personally i think we should run a Viper Supercup series 

[Simon Gymer]

Better than the Ferrari Challenge anyway...

[Mike Hammer]

Perhaps it's the fun factor that makes you not mind that he will get a worse exit and thus be in your way, slowing you down, coming out of the turn.

LOL, seriously Mike, nothing slows the Viper down in the corners no matter how bad the exit or entry is cause it's always 10 times slower than anything else when it's not pointing straight.

Well, in my case it did because I was on the outside down the straight, and didn't dare turn in in front of the Viper, for fear of being hit. Which obviously means the Viper turned in from the middle of the track.

It's no big deal, just unnecessary.

[Simon Gymer]

Well, in my case it did because I was on the outside down the straight, and didn't dare turn in in front of the Viper, for fear of being hit. Which obviously means the Viper turned in from the middle of the track.

Can't comment on other people's driving Mike. I always try and stick to the racing line when being lapped when I don't want to lose too much time.

[Paul968]

Quote from: Jimmie on Today at 12:33:40 PM
I have the feeling the M3's and Seats are still a bit faster then the GT3 RSR and 360 GTC (especially looking at the qualy times).

Normally the RSR and M3 are of equal speed, maybe M3 a small bit quicker. So with current ballast they should be equal, and I think they are.
I think I'd be faster in the RSR than the Seat, but that's also because the RSR is so great to drive Cheesy.

RSR (& RS) work really well at Barca. The top times last night are like that because of the drivers as much as anything. The Seat is definitely slower than the RS and Beemer though.

[Joss]

Nice race 

After yet more zero practise, (one month to go of uni = crazy work >_<) I stuck on my Brno setup and tweaked a very small amount. Was very pleased that the car felt quite nice, much much better than the Saleen at Anders last week
To give me some confidence back, I started qualifying earlier than usual and managed to take pole off Jeff on my second try. But he just snicked it on his last lap by half a tenth. I was up by 0.060 at the second split at the very time he took it and thought I might just nick it back at the death and break into the very high 41's.......but lost a tenth in the final sector and settled for second. Great start to the evening 

Had a slow start due to my long first gear and had to semi-defend against Backo into T1, then we all moved away at the start. Me and Jeff then broke away from Backo and stayed quite close to each other.
Then Jeff had bad luck with the backmarkers and I nipped through into the lead. I thought that he'd be back past me fairly soon but I held the lead for quite a while. Then I dived into the pits at the last minute when I realised I needed to pit and nearly spun on the way into the pit lane!   

A good stop though, and Jeff then exited a lap later just behind me. Status Quo.

Then he went off at the end of the back straight. At first I thought it might be because I got in the way, but glad to know it was him making a mistake instead. I tried to stay quiet on TS after that because I knew he'd be mad!

With a 7 second lead, I thought I could take care of the tyres, but 2 laps later it was under 6 seconds, so back to pushing. But he kept closing in and with 5 or 6 laps to go he was right back on me and I started concentrating on getting god exits onto the straights, knowing the M3 was better on turn-in.

Then with 3 to go, Jeff got close onto the S/F straight, and I went to the inside to cover for the first and last time. A little too deep on braking and sliding wide on the exit, I ran onto the kerb for the next corner, clipped some grass and promptly half-spun. Bugger! 

Kept him honest for 2 more laps but it was in the bag after that.

He thought I'd be mad losing it so near the end, but I wasn't annoyed because he'd won fair and square, despite the racing gods conspiring against him. Coming back from 7 seconds behind deserves the win, so well done mate.    Scary to think that you're this fast in the Seat of all cars. 

Well Done Minton and Simon in GTC and tough luck to Paul on a last lap engine blow

No idea how the ballast points system works (it's too complicated), so I assume that I haven't won anything yet. I'll try my best to be at Donington next time out. I expect the Seat to be rubbish there! 

GR peeps