Mark J
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« on: May 11, 2017, 07:39:03 AM +0100 » |
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Password: see above (released 24hrs before the race) Round 2 - Silverstone EnduranceWeds-May 17th - Password entry (on day of race) Practise: 19:30 (45 mins) Qual: 20:15 (15 mins) Race: 20:30 29 Laps (approx 60mins) Cars allowed: Gt3 class cars Optional skin pack (if you have not already downloaded from round1) https://mkurv989.stackstorage.com/s/bXprz5TFRBM9jhr Courtesy of Maikel. Track: Silverstone GP Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstatTime of Day Setting: 15:30 Weather: Mid Clear (TBC) Start: Standing Tyre wear: Normal Fuel consumption: Normal Pit-stops: 1 MandatoryServer track settings: SESSION_START=100 RANDOMNESS=0 LAP_GAIN=0 SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a Damage: 70% Password: see abovePLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting. Notes: (1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules[/quote] (2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
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Baikal
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2017, 10:31:45 AM +0100 » |
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Hi Mark! IMHO - it's a time to make timed race. This option is working fine in AC. But in laps race with mandatory pit AC server option we will have mandatory laps issue ( bug) : it will depends where is pilot's pit box place acording to finish line. Pilot can get a "buged" disqualyfication in last lap of pitwindow. Other way- to make laps race but with NO AC server mandatory pitstop option. It such case pit is must to be but without AC server.cfg options. So we need your clearаnce here- what way we will use
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2017, 12:25:27 PM +0100 » |
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We don't normally force the pitstop via config files, Baikal. You pit when you want. It will be obvious if some one doesn't stop.
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Baikal
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2017, 01:01:19 PM +0100 » |
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Ok spanner. If so - all is clear for me. Thanks for the explanation.
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Mark J
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2017, 01:02:36 PM +0100 » |
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Alexey, as Spanner says, we haven't forced it via AC before, we just state that a mandatory stop is required. Pete normally posts up a race stats page after each race and it shows clearly when a driver stopped by the time it took to complete a lap.
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Jeffrey
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 01:07:51 PM +0100 » |
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Remains his point about making races time based and not lap based . Pit stops are still minimum of 1 litre or tyres?
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 01:48:08 PM +0100 » |
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I do like the idea of the race being timed rather than laps.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2017, 02:06:23 PM +0100 » |
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Does it make any difference? We work out the number of laps to suit a 1hour race anyway. Doesn't matter if it's out by one lap generally. am I missing something And yes pit stops are fuel or tyres or both. I don't really like the gamey option of 1L for a stop to be honest. Shouldn't there be a minimum stop time? Otherwise it's almost just a drive through with no time lost. You couldn't do that in the real world. Be interesting to read what the blancpain rules are for stops.
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2017, 02:32:51 PM +0100 » |
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I don't really like the gamey option of 1L for a stop to be honest.
IMHO no more gamey than 2x tyre wear / fuel usage etc. which we use in various championships around here (used less in AC maybe but I'm sure we have)
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2017, 03:28:58 PM +0100 » |
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Pete normally posts up a race stats page after each race and it shows clearly when a driver stopped by the time it took to complete a lap. I'm not sure we can rely on the AcLogParser I currently have, it failed to digest last night's details correctly It's quite old but I've never found a newer one. It was by Wally Masterson
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2017, 03:44:34 PM +0100 » |
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I don't really like the gamey option of 1L for a stop to be honest.
IMHO no more gamey than 2x tyre wear / fuel usage etc. which we use in various championships around here (used less in AC maybe but I'm sure we have) Well they are slightly different in that they are used to simulate longer distances/time, whereas a 1L fuel stop is a gamey cheat really how can we enforce a proper stop? Will check the blancpain rules later. Would forcing everyone to change tyres remove the strategy element? Guess it would as someone wearing his tyres less could double stint. Increase the minimum fuel top up?
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2017, 04:09:22 PM +0100 » |
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It all depends on how hards are for a whole race. I doubt hards and short stop will be better than 2 sets of mediums. How much fuel do the cars need for a whole race?
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2017, 04:36:02 PM +0100 » |
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It all depends on how hards are for a whole race. I doubt hards and short stop will be better than 2 sets of mediums. How much fuel do the cars need for a whole race?
I'm guessing between 90 -100 Litres. 40 minutes race and my tank wasn't even half full. 2 sets of mediums is prob quicker, maybe even 2 sets of softs on some of the tracks
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2017, 04:44:44 PM +0100 » |
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I though the whole point of the pitstop was to add some strategy. How you run your strategy is up to you. If you are kind on your tyres then you may not opt to change them. However, if you can run really quick stints then you may run of softs and opt to change them. If its just for the sake of doing a pitstop then I see no point in having them.
As for fuel, then I like the idea of simulating increased fuel usage to replicate a longer race. Adds more strategy as some will use more fuel than others. Makes it more dynamic.
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Baikal
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2017, 07:51:47 PM +0100 » |
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Mark, as we can see- many different ppl opinions here For me i prefer timed races in 1 hour or more races. But laps is still ok for me ). All what we need is pit stop rules from you. But guys and Mark, keep in mind that fuel consumptions and tyres wear have not so small difference in our GT3 class cars. I prefer to test my own BMW to manage it in pitstop and to add 1l is not bad idea for me and no gamey cheat. It's just a part of different user strategy possible in tyres wear\ car performance \ user idea AC stage for MY own car, IMHO If you have a desigion to change tires- it will be approx 20 sec- we will do it as a rule. But in this way we lost a strategy choyces at all. It will be poor "med - to- med" only way possible IMHO. I driving one of the slowest car in champ ( w\o BOP) and prefer to think and joy about my way of race . But anyway - any cleared rules will be suited for me
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