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Title: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: vosblod on October 27, 2011, 11:08:21 PM +0100
And so we kick off with the first race of Season 22 at the green hell. The Nürburgring has 174 turns and that times six is 1044 turns, so good luck.

Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

IMPORTANT NOTE FOR THIS RACE ONLY
In view of the length and complexity of this track the ban on Shift-R's during practice is lifted AND you will be allowed to take a maximum of TWO resets rather then one. You must still take a Stop & Go.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 30-10-2011
Time = no later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-60 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Track = Nurburgring
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = INT (see reset rules above)
Qualifying time = Minimum 35 minutes / maximum 60 minutes.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 6)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=336&theme=6) championship standings page.
The track can be downloaded from : papy original
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=523 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=523)
Reported incidents modded
Full moderation of lap one red zone

LAP ONE RED ZONE: Full moderation from race start to end of Flugplatz

Reserve drivers should not use the server between 35 and 30 minutes of qualifying to allow full timers to join. Please restrict chat to pit messages.

Moderating will be by FULL moderation of the lap one Red Zone (see above) plus any other reported incidents, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=336&theme=6) championship standings page. Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

REPLAYS
Available from the UKGPL3 server website (http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/).


The Nürburgring is a motorsport complex around the village of Nürburg, Germany. It features a modern Grand Prix race track built in 1984, and a much longer old North loop track which was built in the 1920s around the village and medieval castle of Nürburg in the Eifel mountains. The old track, which we are using, was nicknamed The Green Hell by Jackie Stewart and is widely considered the toughest, most dangerous, and most demanding purpose-built racing circuit in the world.
In the early 1920s ADAC Eifelrennen races were held on public roads in the Eifel mountains. Soon this was considered impractical and dangerous. In order to provide work and lure tourists into the area, the construction of a dedicated race track was proposed. The track was completed in spring of 1927, and the first German Grand Prix was held there in July. In 1939 the full Ring was used for the last time in major racing events, as future Grands Prix would be held only on the Nordschleife. After World War II, racing recommenced in the 1950s and the Nordschleife of the Nürburgring again became the main venue for the German Grand Prix. By the late 1960s, the Nordschleife and many other tracks were considered increasingly dangerous for F1 cars. In 1967, a chicane was added before the start/finish straight. Various changes were made in the following years until, following Niki Lauda's crash in 1976, use of the old ring in formula one ceased for good.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Hristo Itchov on October 28, 2011, 02:09:27 PM +0100
Green Hell as first race, lol, was the idea behind that "the sooner it's gone the better"?  :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Geoff65 on October 28, 2011, 05:01:42 PM +0100
Green Hell as first race, lol, was the idea behind that "the sooner it's gone the better"?  :D

Well, that's the way I'm looking at it H.... ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: vosblod on October 28, 2011, 07:43:19 PM +0100
Green Hell as first race, lol, was the idea behind that "the sooner it's gone the better"?  :D
That was about the gist of it plus a long practice run in ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: dave curtis on October 28, 2011, 09:47:24 PM +0100
I guess I'll see you guys at the after-party,  I sure won't see you much before then!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Geoff65 on October 28, 2011, 10:11:23 PM +0100
I guess I'll see you guys at the after-party,  I sure won't see you much before then!

I wouldn't bet on that were I you..... ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Rainier on October 30, 2011, 08:26:55 AM +0000
Race date = 30-10-2011
Time = no later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-60 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)

last night, we went to winter time in France. Is it the same in UK ?



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: bernie on October 30, 2011, 08:34:35 AM +0000
Yes , winter time here to , clock went back 1 hour to BST or whatever they call it these days  ::)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Cookie on October 30, 2011, 02:23:11 PM +0000
Race date = 30-10-2011
Time = no later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-60 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)

last night, we went to winter time in France. Is it the same in UK ?

Same here in Germany ;)

But the Brits are still a full hour away :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: maddog on October 30, 2011, 02:30:41 PM +0000

        But maybe we do not need to start as soon as you. ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: BadBlood on October 30, 2011, 04:08:54 PM +0000
To be clear the UK is on GMT+0

Like the rest of Europe the clocks change on the last Sunday in October.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 30, 2011, 10:55:35 PM +0000
Having not driven the 67s for a while I thought I'd struggle a bit and I did initially until I found my old set up from 2004.  Once I loaded that up I had much more grip and I set about getting used to the power and limited grip of these beasts.  I managed to beat my PB by a second in praccy so all was looking good for the race.

Tucked in behind Martin at the start but he was quicker than me and gradually pulled away but he made a mistake towards the end of the first lap which let me through to take the lead.  After that I tried to keep the car on the tarmac and put in 6 consistent laps all between 8:35 and 8:43.  Not blisteringly fast but consistency is the key here. 

In 322 UKGPL races I've only every won 4, and 3 of those have been at the ring.  No wonder it is my favourite track :)

Grats to my Antipasti Team mate, Martin for getting pole.  Looks like Antipasti will be a force to be reckoned with in Season 22!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: bernie on October 30, 2011, 11:36:47 PM +0000
Long overdue mate , congrats  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: bernie on October 30, 2011, 11:43:53 PM +0000
What's going on here then ?

ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
Dave Rainier67                        (1/6)      16.67
Martin Hunt                           (0/6)       0.00
Skymole 2173 -m                       (0/5)       0.00
Paul Markey                           (0/6)       0.00
Bernie Darwin                         (6/6)       100.00
Fabio Locarno                         (0/1)       0.00
Geoff Heard67                         (0/6)       0.00
fran7 Molteni                         (0/5)       0.00
Ross Neilson                          (0/6)       0.00
Phil Thornton                         (0/6)       0.00
Billy Nobrakes67                      (0/4)       0.00
Dave Curtis                           (0/5)       0.00
Alastair Baldwin67                    (0/4)       0.00
Vlad Vosblod                          (0/1)       0.00
M Turner                              (0/5)       0.00
Nigel Smith65                         (0/5)       0.00


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Geoff65 on October 31, 2011, 01:28:27 AM +0000
Obviously, we all had trouble keeping them ON the island Bernie.......And you got home by .287 of a second, just couldn't get that power down without it spinning. Well done mate.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Geoff65 on October 31, 2011, 01:40:48 AM +0000
Saw way more of the Nurby scenery than I really needed to this trip. Got a good start and we all kept out of bother in the first few corners, well done lads. Swapped a few places on the 1st lap with the first of many exploratory trips into the undergrowth and ended up with first Fabio, then new chum Dave Curtis snapping at my heels whilst trying to settle the beast down and get into some sort of rythm. By lap 3 I'd dropped Dave who was having some excursions of his own and set off after Bernie who'd pulled a gap. Laps4 and 5 were frightful and best forgotten. Last lap and Bernie must have been at least 10 seconds up the road. Somehow, I managed to put together a fairly good lap and hunted him down, until at the finish line the margin was a mere .287 seconds. Congrats to Bernie for hanging on under pressure, and especially the podium.....Phil, Dave Rainier and teamie Ross for their brilliant efforts. There's life in the old dog yet eh, Phil?    ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: blito on October 31, 2011, 06:48:41 AM +0000
Sat this one out as I dislocated a toe yesterday morning and can't operate the footpedals without immense pain! Good to see a full grid though :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: BadBlood on October 31, 2011, 08:30:12 AM +0000
Fullish...

Michael was trying to take up three places...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: happyal on October 31, 2011, 08:45:08 AM +0000
Well done to Phil on a great victory.

My race was as I expected. Not diven 67 cars much at all, and still learning which way the road goes at Nurby, so I really wasn't expecting much.

I made sure that there were plently of spot left before I joined, as it would of been unfair to take a spot away from a full time driver. I started to learn the track, and it did slowly start to make sense, I rememebered some sections from my pervious attempt. I did beat my PB, and finally got under 10 minutes. That's all I was aiming for so I was really pleased with that in Qually.

For the race I was just trying to keep it on the black stuff, which was easier said than done. With a few cars around, and sort of rememebering the sections, the temptation to push a little is too much, which is what always lead me to throwing it off the road, 3 times. Overall not unhappy, I've learnt a little more of Nurby, and I hope it will help me when we come here in the 65 cars.

Well done to all my Clark Hill team mates.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: BadBlood on October 31, 2011, 10:51:41 AM +0000
I have posted the replay on UKGPL3 at http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE ACCESSING IT - It is under the 'Replays, Tracks and direct downloads' menu, then 'Current Season' in the Replays navigation table...

Apologies to Ross for muffing up the FTP settings...  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Ross Neilson on October 31, 2011, 11:40:13 AM +0000
I tried to keep the car on the tarmac and put in 6 consistent laps all between 8:35 and 8:43.  Not blisteringly fast but consistency is the key here. 

Cheers Phil, my best was about 8:35!! :) Seriously though, well done on the win. You showed pace when needed to get a good grid slot, then turned it down a notch to do a trouble free race, giving you victory by a considerable margin. Another win at the Ring makes you the Ring Meister I think.

For my part, I was looking forward to my first race at Nurby and it didn't disappoint. This track is such an immense challenge, and during the off-season I went from being daunted by it to growing to love it. Qually didn't go so well initially but I posted a time close to my PB and was pleased with 5th on the grid.

The race was spent having a great battle with Dave Rainier who was doing a good job in the Coop. Our positions changed as one or the other made an error, eventually Dave finished just in front of me to take second place - very well done sir. Initially our scrap was over fourth but Martin and Screwcutter (Paul Markey) had a big accident at Flugplatz putting them behind us. When I say big accident, it was just that, I came over the crest to see them both in mid air!! A pity for them as they were quicker than Dave and I, especially Martin who took pole.

Overall a solid start to the campaign, see you all at Mosport.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Michael Turner on October 31, 2011, 12:06:13 PM +0000
Fullish...

Michael was trying to take up three places...
Sorry about that. I started with the BRM but the wheel (G25) calibration kept going off in a big way so I tried quitting, resetting the wheel and rejoining but the problem persisted. I then quit and selected the Cooper - and all was well. Very odd ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: BadBlood on October 31, 2011, 12:12:09 PM +0000
It isn't a problem Michael, I was just joshing you...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Ross Neilson on October 31, 2011, 12:32:15 PM +0000
Just out of interest, would it have prevented us getting the full 19 drivers? So, if a driver/car slot is taken but then disconnected from, can it be reused? Or would Michael's BRM and Brabham entries have kept two drivers out?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: vosblod on October 31, 2011, 12:35:40 PM +0000
Just out of interest, would it have prevented us getting the full 19 drivers? So, if a driver/car slot is taken but then disconnected from, can it be reused? Or would Michael's BRM and Brabham entries have kept two drivers out?
If someone leaves, before the race starts, it free's up the slot. If they rejoin I think it remembers their current Qually time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: maddog on October 31, 2011, 01:01:59 PM +0000
You have not mastered GPL, until you've mastered the Nurburgring.  I'm becoming a seasoned campaigner, with this being my 3rd visit to the track.  On both previous attempts, I'd started at the front, and failed to finish.  I hoped not to let the track win this time!

A last minute repair to my steering system proved useful, as it allowed me to put in two fast, and trouble free practice laps.  And I was able to sit out the remainder of practice on pole, despite Phil's late charge. 8)

The race started well, and I was able to slowly pull a gap on Phil's Ferrari.  But all was not well, as  Out of a clear blue sky,  a cloud started dumping rain on my helmet, and onto the track around it.  Only after the squall had passed, was I able to relocate the track, and chase after Modena's best.  Except that, each time I closed in, the rains returned!  Apparently, my tyres were unable to take the Nurb's punishment, and mine. :'(

The track and race became a matter of survival.  Depending on the weather, I was able to run  as high as 2nd, and as low as 6th, so I suppose a result somewhere in the middle seems adequate.  But I nonetheless claim a personal victory, due to survival - no resets needed!  More than a few of us saw the chequers, so I suggest we've some serious racing to do, before the Season's through.  Where's my umbrella?   :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: bernie on October 31, 2011, 06:50:02 PM +0000
Saw way more of the Nurby scenery than I really needed to this trip. Got a good start and we all kept out of bother in the first few corners, well done lads. Swapped a few places on the 1st lap with the first of many exploratory trips into the undergrowth and ended up with first Fabio, then new chum Dave Curtis snapping at my heels whilst trying to settle the beast down and get into some sort of rythm. By lap 3 I'd dropped Dave who was having some excursions of his own and set off after Bernie who'd pulled a gap. Laps4 and 5 were frightful and best forgotten. Last lap and Bernie must have been at least 10 seconds up the road. Somehow, I managed to put together a fairly good lap and hunted him down, until at the finish line the margin was a mere .287 seconds. Congrats to Bernie for hanging on under pressure, and especially the podium.....Phil, Dave Rainier and teamie Ross for their brilliant efforts. There's life in the old dog yet eh, Phil?    ::)

Dont know how close you really came to beating me to the finishing post , my BRM seemed to have developed a mind of its own after various trips into the hedgerows , thankfully I could pull out a big enough gap on the long home straight to enable me to navigate the final chicane without binning it .

The one reason I didnt take the Coop because you can drive a really great lap here but end up a sitting duck on the run in to the finish


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: dave curtis on November 01, 2011, 12:58:28 AM +0000
Well, overall I'm quite happy with that outing - could have been/was expecting a lot worse!

I really have not been round Nurby that much;  just enough to get a (not good!) monster rank.

Bearing in mind that practice was the first drive of the day, I managed to get an ok-ish lap together (once I'd reconnected a few times to sort out sound problems).  Even with an off/perching on a hill awaiting to be passed before rejoining & an engine problem on the run down the final section, my time was only about 3 seconds over my previous PB.  Not pretty, but good by my standards.

Took the start very slowly.   With this being my first appearance at UKGPL,   I was very keen to not cause a mass pile-up on the way down to the 1st corner.    But maybe normal service for Mosport ;)

Whilst trying to follow Geoff round I also was hitting that heavy rain mentioned elsewhere.  However, did manage to beat my previous PB by 20seconds, although with about 3 crashes there is still a lot of scope for much improvement. 

The last few laps were pretty lonely, although Prib still made it clear that dawdling would not be wise.

In summary,  was enjoyable despite the location.   Admittedly I'd say other incidents helped the top-10 finish;  still - I'll take it all the same!

So thanks chaps for the grid slot & race.

My PC PSU packed in after the race,  so maybe that loose screw DID fall in there after all... Still, that's why it's useful to keep a few old parts around - you never know when they'll come in handy.

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Ross Neilson on November 02, 2011, 09:34:05 PM +0000
Just a quick reminder that any incident reports need to be submitted by the end of Sunday (the 6th). I will begin moderating them the day after with a view to publishing the report before the next event at Mosport.

There were two or three incidents in the red zone on lap one so if you were involved, please submit your report using the link below the race results table. It's your chance to give your point of view :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 Privateers (67) - Nürburgring (Nordschleife) - Oct 30
Post by: Ross Neilson on November 11, 2011, 10:00:28 AM +0000
Mod published.