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Practice: 19:20 (UK London) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (28 laps)
Cars allowed: Rank 1 to 7 - Alfa Romeo GTA 1300 Junior, Ford Cortina GT, Ford Mustang BSCC.
                    Rank 8 to 14 and new drivers - Any of the above plus Alfa Romeo GTA 1600, Lotus Cortina (Works or Mann), Ford Mustang Trans Am.

Drivers please note the following:

This Championship will be formed of four parts (A to D). In each part you must choose a car model (Cortina, Alfa Romeo or Mustang) and stick with it for all the races contained within that part. When a new part starts you may either elect to keep your current choice or change it. Below are the track details of each of the four parts. The three events that separate the four parts are Mini only races.

PART A

Snetterton
Knockhill
Donington Park

PART B

Castle Combe
Cadwell Park
Thruxton

PART C

Oulton Park International
Crystal Palace
Mondello Park

PART D

Brand Hatch GP
Mallory Park
Anglesey
Silverstone GP

Track: Donington Park 2004 (National)
Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Weather: DRY
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

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Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=350&theme=34)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory v2 from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/), 2.1 patch from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/) and enable terrain patch.
(4) P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function. You may go as fast as you like in the pits, but please exercise caution. Penalties will be handed out for causing contact in the pit lane. Use your best judgement when making your pitstop during the race.

Weather
A weather site will be consulted on the Sunday afternoon before the race and if rain is forecast for the race location then expect a wet weather race. Rain will be set at 80% unless the forecast is for light showers in which case a 40% setting will be used.

Tony which Donny version will we use on Thursday?

The National (It's in the race announcement title)  ;)

Sorry I must try and read everything - too busy (my excuse.)

This track is great to drive in my favorite car the Alfa 1600 GTA, but unfortunately I must stay with the Mustangs for this race. Much to my surprise, the Mustang TA is pretty cool and fast to drive here as well.

I managed a 1.24.600 lap today, has anybody else tried out some cars ?

Stig

Hope to find time Tuesday morning to have look.  Like you I prefer the Alfa here with it's 5 speed box.  Think I have a Lotus Cortina setup for here as it's my regular test track, so baring accidents I should be "on parade".

Why doesn't it ever rain on the Sundays!?  :D

I negotiated a deal with the Met. Office.  ;D

I think i am out thursday for this one unfortunately so cant race  :( Doni is great for these old cars too.

As I already said on Lakeside topic, I will miss this one. ROTW champ on Thursday for me this week. Cu for the next :)

Only a snail-like 1:31 for me  :(

Nice track. Fits well with the Alfa.

1:30.4 in the GTA1300 , 1:28.3 in the GTA1600 so far - but the 1300 is the smoother ride  8)

Cannot compete due to back problem  :(

Have a good race.

I’ll try to be there tonight in the Cortina Lotus again. I had some practice last week-end and managed 1:27’s on full race set-up.

Isn’t there a slight possibility on rain to stop the monster V8’s running circles around us??  :-\


Be well soon Alex!

Err I guess this means I will have to use the Tina GT,.,,,  :'(

MHA HA HA HA  :devil:

Gent's, I've placed a poll here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10080.15) regarding the Mustang's use.

I'd like to introduce a new rule for this series, with effect after this event, along the lines of "the Mustang can not be chosen for two consecutive parts".

If your in favour please vote "Yes please". Those against please vote "No thanks".

The majority opinion will be adopted.

Thanks in advance

Tony

PS I don't like adding rules after a season has started but in this case I think it's a good call.

Blatant discrimination against Mustang drivers now!


Humph!!!!


I'm sure that to change rules after we start it should really be unanimous.

Yaak .... I often fail to keep my focus, and this race was no different I'm afraid  :(

I guess my mind was else where   :-\

I'm away next week, so have a nice race.

Stig

Was not sure whether to bother with this one when I realised i would have to use the GT
but had a go anyway, had some fun when Ade fell off, but then I did too, and didn't have the
heart to do any more. so went and played Descent for abit.

Your probably right. Following tonight's race I'd like to change a couple of things especially for the Cortina camp cos that GT is hopeless. I'll scrap the Mustang poll (if I can?) and have a rethink.

EDIT: Poll now changed and previous voting is deleted. Please vote again.

Replay and results now posted.

Can SuperSWIFT add his nationality to his profile information please

Hello folks, I had a great time at yesterday’s race!

I managed a 4th position on the grid in the Cortina Lotus, behind the V8 Mustangs and the ever amazing flying John_W in the Alfa GTA.

Right from the start, the Mustangs of Clive and Mr Muttram had a race long battle for 2nd place, leaving John_W room to drive off in the distance and me behind the battling pair in 4th place.

In my mirror I saw Stig, who started in last position in the Mustang T/A, gaining fast and mid-race he was right on my tail but he went off while passing me on the straight. We didn’t touch, so I hope it wasn’t because of me?

Then I rethought my tactics, hoping the two Mustangs in front of me would have tire trouble in the later part of the race. So I drove as fast and cleanly as possible, trying to keep up. But although the orange pair stayed in sight, I couldn’t get closer and I finished in 4th position.

So, thanks for organizing Tony!  8)

Will next race (Mondello) be a championship race or an interlude?

As I understand it SS, the race is part of the overall championship but we all have to drive Minis.

Anyone know where I can find a Mini Mustang?   ::)


As for this race, as SS has already said, that was a start to finish battle for second spot between Tim and me.

John could probably have won in the 1300 Alfa so I had no aspirations for the hat trick!

Grats also to SS for the great drive in the Cortina.  I think that I noticed on the replay that he had his nose in front of Tim at one point at the start of lap two!

Tim and I were side-by-side through Redgate after the start and thankfully I had the inside line, allowing me to hold on to second spot.

I couldn’t shake him off until he took a bit of grass on the exit of the chicane (I think) but then I did much the same thing at Coppice on the next lap.  That put him back on my rear bumper and when I made a mess of the Old Hairpin he passed me.

At one point we came up to lap Bill at McLeans and there is just no way that Tim should have been able to stay on the track, but he did.  That dropped me back about a second because I had anticipated an accident but I managed to close him down again.

I almost passed him at Redgate on one occasion but in the end it was a mistake from Tim at the Old Hairpin that let me pass him at McLeans.

I still couldn’t shake him off but I think that his tyres were knackered at the end.

Great race.  Just need a few more of you in Mustangs and we could have a good time! 

Grats John.

As far as handicapping goes, the normal Tina is a bit slower than pretty well everything else
and at some tracks it's slower than the 1300 Alfa. It is not really going to be anyone's
ride of preference from a purely speed point of view. To make it a more popular choice
perhaps make it so you can keep it for a whole segment rather than get demoted
to the gutless GT if you do well? the "slower" Mustang and Alfas are still pretty quick

Agreed. We raced the Cortina Mann & Works and Alfa 1300 at Zolder with NG a while back and the times were very close, with the Alfa just having the edge:
http://downloads.gamers-crib.com/Sim%20Racing/NGR/Results/2011-11-13%20NoGrip%20SNR%20PnG%20at%202005ZOLDER/index.html

Admittedly it was in the wet, but I think it was just as close when I was practicing in the dry.

I'm tempted to take the Cortina in the next part, but the thought of having to haul the GT round is putting me off somewhat.

btw, I voted 'No' to enforcing a change of make, as it might harm attendance if people can't drive the car they want.

Pretty much what I had in mind Matt. Make it so that the Cortina drivers keep the Works or Mann variants whatever the drivers league position. I still want to check if I can find a car that we could use to deputize for the poor GT. I'll be looking into this asap and let you guys know if I come up with any likely contenders.

Yes it's still a championship round designed to upset Clive and as it's in Ireland the chances for a wet race are quite high

Has Geoffers deserted us?

BTW forgot to say big grats to Kurt and Sandor for the excellent finishes last night  :clap:

Jolly good!

I would expect a unanimous decision from "twelve good men and true" to put me in an Alfa!

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/PnG/DonnMrt12/)

Gutted to have missed a nice Cortina race.
Does anybody know (out of experience) if those raceframes are any good for preventing back problems (apart from training)?
Are they worth the investment?
Any help much appreciated.

Thanks SuperSwift  :thumbup1:

Thanks for the Lap Chart Alex.

I think that the race frame transfers the pain to the wallet and having spent so much you dare not admit that you have any back pain at all!

Alex, there's a weekend deal right now at gamediscounter.com (a Dutch company) on a Playseat Evolution.

Alternatively, I use a Pleiseat from Pleifactory.com that I've got for my birthday last year :D
It supports my back really well and I really can recommend it if it has to fit in with your living room furniture. Keeps my GF happy at the same time ;)

Do you get a bad back driving a real car for long periods? (Assuming you drive, of course!)
If you find driving a car doesn't give you a bad back, then definitely go for it. I did briefly use an office chair when I started sim racing and it didn't feel right, the posture was all wrong and I found myself either sitting too upright or slouching. Now I have a race frame that has almost the same seating position as my car, I can do long races without a problem.

a race frame has essentially a bucket/sports seat that you find in most street performance cars so yes you get good back support from them. I find it keeps my back nice and straight as you can press yourself into it and not end up slouched over your wheel. I have Recaro Pole positions in my road car and a 'playseat' race frame, so speak from experience  :)

Sloughing over the wheel sounds very familiar. I have to remember to 'straighten' myself once in a while  :-\
Normal (commute) driving isn't a problem (1,5 hour a day) so I think I will following your advice.

The gamediscounter thingie sounds good so I go for that! Thanks SuperSwift!!

Also many thanks for your input John, MJ and Clive. Very much appreciated.

(now off to spend a load of money and figuring out how to tell the wife  ;D )