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Title: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 07, 2011, 01:03:23 PM +0000
Problems connecting to the Lobby? Download this (http://www.simbin.se/files/gtr2_ofp.zip)

Practice: 19:20 (UK London) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (26 laps)
Cars allowed:  Drivers occupying Rank 1 to 5 - Ford Mustang NTK or Ford Falcon Sprint
                     Drivers occupying Rank 6 to 10 - The cars above plus Ford Mustang BSCC or Ford Falcon Mann
                     Drivers occupying Rank 11 to 15 - Any of the above plus Ford Mustang ATCC or Ford Falcon Weslake Heads
                     New Drivers - Any of the above

Maximum of 9 drives per make (Falcon/Mustang). Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdG1jSldhNEdsRklvUXVvQXpVNDY5NGc)

Track: Mid-America Motorplex Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#post_midamerica)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: 1X
Fuel consumption: 1X
Pit-stops: None required

Server: simracing.org.uk NAC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=349&theme=34)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory v2 from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/), 2.1 patch from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/) and enable terrain patch.
(4) P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function. You may go as fast as you like in the pits, but please exercise caution. Penalties will be handed out for causing contact in the pit lane. Use your best judgement when making your pitstop during the race.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on March 24, 2012, 10:30:50 AM +0000
1:50.4 was the result of my first few attempts in TT mode.

Not sure if I will have any front tyres left by the end of the race.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Mark J on March 26, 2012, 08:39:17 PM +0100
1:49.3 for me so far race fuel, offline praccy. Nice racetrack this, flowing curves, albeit flat as a pancake.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 27, 2012, 07:20:57 PM +0100
I have an opticians appointment late on Thursday night. I should be home in time to start the server but just in case I'll set the server with the racenight password on Wednesday night. If I'm not around please forward the sessions as required e.g. practise to qually.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: SpecialKS on March 27, 2012, 08:57:02 PM +0100
1.53.2 during first test for me today in the BSCC Mustang today with well known problems:
a deep red left front tyre after two or three laps.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 27, 2012, 09:05:26 PM +0100
1.53.2 during first test for me today in the BSCC Mustang today with well known problems:
a deep red left front tyre after two or three laps.

Try softening the front suspension by a click. Might help?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Mark J on March 28, 2012, 06:46:46 PM +0100
1.53.2 during first test for me today in the BSCC Mustang today with well known problems:
a deep red left front tyre after two or three laps.

reduce the camber to that wheel, check temps across the tyre width and add or remove air as required. Or even stick meds on the front to keep them cool !


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: SpecialKS on March 28, 2012, 09:12:26 PM +0100
thxs for the tips boys and thanks Clive for the eye-opening online lesson just now.

Unfortunately no forther improvement so far - although I changed from BSCC to NTK
Mustang and then to the standard Falcon.

I think I have to modify/change/improve my style of driving for mastering these tanks.

After that I did some laps in my favorite car - the small Simca 1200S Bertone (released over
there for GTR2: http://f1classic.your-talk.com/t9903-release-simca-1200s-bertone-v10-gtl-gtr2 (http://f1classic.your-talk.com/t9903-release-simca-1200s-bertone-v10-gtl-gtr2))
which I adapted for P&G for my personal use and was able to reach a 1.46.5 !

So I'll work on it.



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Manteos on March 29, 2012, 03:17:39 PM +0100
I won't be in time for the race... have fun guys!

Cu :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Mark J on March 29, 2012, 09:00:16 PM +0100
Really Sorry AV, it seemed a small tap but your car shot off track into the armco. I quit the race in disgust with myself as we were having a good race with Clive too.  :(

Racing with man-flu wasnt a great idea. I was burning up and doubt i would have lasted full distance with these heavy handed monsters.

At least you finished ahead of me for the points table, small consolation.  :'(


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Alex vV on March 29, 2012, 09:08:32 PM +0100
Really Sorry AV, it seemed a small tap but your car shot off track into the armco. I quit the race in disgust with myself as we were having a good race with Clive too.  :(

Racing with man-flu wasnt a great idea. I was burning up and doubt i would have lasted full distance with these heavy handed monsters.

At least you finished ahead of me for the points table, small consolation.  :'(

No problem. I was really enjoying the fight. The fact that I was in a faster car enabled me to fight with you faster guys  :)
Downside of this format is that I probably have earlier braking points. Probably caught you out.
Would have continued but the engine gave up. No need to quit.

ps. Don't know what kind tires they use in Nebraska but it got The Unbreakable Falcon broken  :o

pps. Lapchart has to wait because I am away for a week  8)
 


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: SpecialKS on March 29, 2012, 09:21:34 PM +0100
Senseless one for me.
Don't really like the track and don't like the tanks on this track.

Could do whatever I want during quali and race - within the
second lap deep red left front tyre. Found no way against the understeer
in the two about 180° corners.

So after another turner I decided to quit and still watched the racers for a while.

Fascinating to see how Geoffers' Mustang ran like on rails and also fascinating the
different ways of driving of you guys.

Hope to be more competitive the next time.



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on March 29, 2012, 09:53:49 PM +0100
I'm begining to hate that Falcon Sprint.

Also, I did the same number of laps as Stig and Tony; and in a faster time...............

So why do I finish behind them?  ???


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 29, 2012, 10:19:31 PM +0100
I was wondering that Clive. I thought it was because we made it to the chequered flag and maybe you didn't and that's taken into account.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Alex vV on March 29, 2012, 10:31:45 PM +0100
Oh well..

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/PnG/GTR2_mam_2012_3_29_20_42/)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Geoffers on March 30, 2012, 09:48:35 AM +0100
Fascinating to see how Geoffers' Mustang ran like on rails

The extra power the ATCC Mustang has, meant I didn't have to push it too hard in the corners. Just run the rear of the car very soft & a little firmer on the front & also I used the hardest front tyres for the race. I'm sure John in that car would have been in the 1.42s.

Love driving the ATCC & the win was much more down to the car than me. Not often I get to beat John! ;D

Congrats to John & Ade.  :clap:

Won't be able to do Albert Park next week, but hope to cya all at Castle Combe.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: johnw on March 30, 2012, 11:44:06 AM +0100
Grats Geoffers :thumbup1: Thought I was going to be able to stay with you for a few laps there, but then you put hammer down and disappeared into the sunset!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on March 30, 2012, 03:01:25 PM +0100
I was wondering that Clive. I thought it was because we made it to the chequered flag and maybe you didn't and that's taken into account.

Well PnG had it right and the analyser has it right too.

Must be something wrong with the way that SROUK handles the results.

Which ever way you slice it, the results as shown are wrong.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 30, 2012, 06:54:27 PM +0100
I was wondering that Clive. I thought it was because we made it to the chequered flag and maybe you didn't and that's taken into account.

Well PnG had it right and the analyser has it right too.

Must be something wrong with the way that SROUK handles the results.

Which ever way you slice it, the results as shown are wrong.

I'll explain what happened to Dave and see what he says. To make sure I have the facts straight. Hotkeys and I did 25 laps and crossed the finish line having both been lapped once. You did 25 laps also but quit out before you completed your final lap (lap 26). Does that sound right to you?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 30, 2012, 07:12:06 PM +0100
Rather a dull race I thought. What with Bill taking an early bath and Eifel spinning out I was left with only Hotkeys for company. I could have kept him behing me  >:D but that would have spoiled his evening so after he gave me a love tap and I span off  ::) I let him pass me and he soon became a spec on the horizon. The rest of my race was just a matter of keeping it on the track and making sure my front left tyre didn't go pop. I made up a few places after Alex and MJ had their coming together, therefore my final position was more flattering than it seems. Still I'll take the points and run. Hope the next one at Barbers gets a bit more attendance and is more interesting. Oh carp, now I'm in the slowest car group >:(


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on March 30, 2012, 08:41:39 PM +0100
I was wondering that Clive. I thought it was because we made it to the chequered flag and maybe you didn't and that's taken into account.

Well PnG had it right and the analyser has it right too.

Must be something wrong with the way that SROUK handles the results.

Which ever way you slice it, the results as shown are wrong.

I'll explain what happened to Dave and see what he says. To make sure I have the facts straight. Hotkeys and I did 25 laps and crossed the finish line having both been lapped once. You did 25 laps also but quit out before you completed your final lap (lap 26). Does that sound right to you?


That's about it.  I wasn't lapped so when the chequered flag appeared as I made my way to T1 I thought that I had finished.  And so I stopped.  That was my error but I still completed 25 laps faster than you and Stig did.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 30, 2012, 10:26:42 PM +0100
I was wondering that Clive. I thought it was because we made it to the chequered flag and maybe you didn't and that's taken into account.

Well PnG had it right and the analyser has it right too.

Must be something wrong with the way that SROUK handles the results.

Which ever way you slice it, the results as shown are wrong.

I'll explain what happened to Dave and see what he says. To make sure I have the facts straight. Hotkeys and I did 25 laps and crossed the finish line having both been lapped once. You did 25 laps also but quit out before you completed your final lap (lap 26). Does that sound right to you?


That's about it.  I wasn't lapped so when the chequered flag appeared as I made my way to T1 I thought that I had finished.  And so I stopped.  That was my error but I still completed 25 laps faster than you and Stig did.

OK. I'll cut and paste my report to Dave and see if it is due to a fault in the results system.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: BillThomas on March 31, 2012, 11:39:06 AM +0100
Rather a dull race I thought. What with Bill taking an early bath and Eifel spinning out I was left with only Hotkeys for company. I could have kept him behing me  >:D

Sorry about that Tony but we have been making most of good weather to do a long heavy job in garden - still only about third done.  ::)  :no: :thumbdown:  Too knackered to concentrate,  :sleep1: couldn't get line or entry speed right - not too fast too slow at times (still went off).  ???


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 01, 2012, 01:18:25 AM +0100
Rather a dull race I thought. What with Bill taking an early bath and Eifel spinning out I was left with only Hotkeys for company. I could have kept him behing me  >:D

Sorry about that Tony but we have been making most of good weather to do a long heavy job in garden - still only about third done.  ::)  :no: :thumbdown:  Too knackered to concentrate,  :sleep1: couldn't get line or entry speed right - not too fast too slow at times (still went off).  ???

That's fine Bill but be sure not to over do it OK?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 01, 2012, 01:19:18 AM +0100
I was wondering that Clive. I thought it was because we made it to the chequered flag and maybe you didn't and that's taken into account.

Well PnG had it right and the analyser has it right too.

Must be something wrong with the way that SROUK handles the results.

Which ever way you slice it, the results as shown are wrong.

I'll explain what happened to Dave and see what he says. To make sure I have the facts straight. Hotkeys and I did 25 laps and crossed the finish line having both been lapped once. You did 25 laps also but quit out before you completed your final lap (lap 26). Does that sound right to you?


That's about it.  I wasn't lapped so when the chequered flag appeared as I made my way to T1 I thought that I had finished.  And so I stopped.  That was my error but I still completed 25 laps faster than you and Stig did.

OK. I'll cut and paste my report to Dave and see if it is due to a fault in the results system.

Dave's response as follows

  • Race classification will be as shown in the server exports.
    The moderators may in the case of a clear error in the exports correct the results manually.
  • A driver who does not complete at least one lap will not be classified.
  • Competitors will be classified according to the following criteria, in order:
    • Finishing position as recorded in the server export
      Currently rFactor and iRacing are the only sims in use by SRou which support this.
    • Highest number of laps complete
    • Fastest race time; competitors marked as having retired are classified behind those given a race time
    • Fastest qualifying time
    If none of the above resolve the tie then the finishing order will be selected at random.

It's done this way because the exports from GTR2 and GTL don't correctly report total race time for drivers who quit early - and because we encourage people to race to the flag.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 7 North American Cup - Mid-America (Full) - Mar 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 01, 2012, 08:50:07 AM +0100
LOL

Well I have a race time and it's quicker than yours.  :P

And:-  The moderators may in the case of a clear error in the exports correct the results manually.