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Practice: 19:20 (UK London) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (25 mins)
Race: 20:45 (24 laps)
Cars allowed: Drivers occupying Rank 1 to 8 - Ford Mustang NTK or Ford Falcon Sprint
                     Drivers occupying Rank 9 to 16 - The cars above plus Ford Mustang BSCC or Ford Falcon Mann
                     Drivers occupying Rank 17 to 24 - Any of the above plus Ford Mustang ATCC or Ford Falcon Weslake Heads
                     New Drivers - Any of the above

Maximum of 9 drives per make (Falcon/Mustang). Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdG1jSldhNEdsRklvUXVvQXpVNDY5NGc)

Track: Mont-Treblant, St Jovite GP Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#post_mttremblant)

Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: 1X
Fuel consumption: 1X
Pit-stops: None required

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Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=349&theme=34)

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Wow, looking forward to at battle with Tony and Matt in the remaining 2 races for the third place overall !

........ please keep in mind, that if I loose, it will be on purpose and should be regarded as an act of gratitude towards the organizers of the P&G series  ;) ;) ;)


Stig

I am local for the rest of the year now, so should be able to make all races. See you on the track Stig  ;D

I've never been good at this circuit and hate the Mustang so will probably sit this one out.

Is this right? Currently 7th so do not want to select wrong car and a DSQ..

Dyslexia rules, for 9 read 6. Announcement revised.

What? Your in a fight for a very well earned 3rd in the championship series with two other drivers and only two remaining races and you want to sit it out?! Each to their own, but what's the point of competing if you can't be bothered for such a good finish to the series, not to mention denying your rivals a spicier challenge for that position? Bit unsporting mr Wiltshire :(. I would be well happy to be fighting for 3rd !

Got my own mini-battle with specialKs and Alex for 6th place after missing 5 rounds. Bring it on gents  ;D

I just finished some test with a bunch of allowed cars for this race. I'm a bit surprized about the different performance of Mustang NTK and Ford Falcon Sprint, cause there's a difference of about 4 seconds in my test.... maybe even a bit more. I guess that with the P&G 3 this car is not matched with the other available car in the fisrst group. There's a huge difference in terms of max speed, and it doesn't get any chance to compete agains the other. I will be with the NTK, in which I managed a mid 59, with the chance to go down a bit. Just for a fast comparison, I was on 2.04 with the Falcon Sprint.

Strange!

At Montreal I found the Sprint faster than the NTK and from my testing here, I would have expected you to be at least 5 seconds quicker in the Sprint than the time you have posted.

Races are more important to me than Championships

Well I've just had a couple of laps offline in the NTK and I'm also in the low 59s which is about the same as my best time in the Sprint. I think they are very close here unlike Montreal. Tried the Falcon Mann and Weslake and they are both a couple of seconds quicker for me.

I reckon most of us will end up in a big heap of metal at the bottom of T1, so come on Tony get practising  ;)

Thanks Tony.

btw. I could use a fellow-competitor with all these :tank: :alien: s, :sorcerer: s and  :ninja: s

err... yes, I was wrong ;D

I managed to take the right Falcon Sprint finally! The test I've done in the afternoon was with the only underpowered Falcon (Mann), so now I understood why I was so slow in it.

Now I'm at 1.59.0 in race trim online, but I guess I should be able to cut approx 5-7 tenth at this time. It's a lot nicer than the NTK to drive, that feels too understeering to me, so I guess I'll take this one.

Cu :)

I'll be wearing my toxido for special this occasions for this race Matt
 (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuc4VgSWOg51Js_h19_mkdhjQa6Ba1r77HZQtlVgaImz8LiDMN)
and this will be your view of my car
 (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRs03qlJd0ypjSv4ZHt7R39RiqKeMHxY7Bwps0vH3jE9jEgG2PSBQ)

 ;D ;D ;D  Stig

And this will be your view of your car  ::)

http://flaglerlive.com/wp-content/uploads/wreck-us1.jpg

Unfortunately, you're ever so right Matt ............. and furthermore, Tony might choose not to turn up.
So the bronze is practically in the bag, and you shouldn't bother practicing at all.

Relax, enjoy life, go to the pub on your way back from work tomorrow, have 3 or 4 pints.
No need to worry about old Hotkeys, even if he doesn't wreck the car. My best so far is 2.04.00.


Stig

Best press harder on that loud pedal Stig, I'm doing 2:00 with race fuel on board  :)

Tricky track, only driven here once before and the two hairpins are painful in these lumbering tanks  :P downhill roller coaster sector 1 will catch out the unwary too!  :o

Not turned a wheel yet, so I will have no practice other than qual.
And I have to score lots of points to pass Mr Stig, so hang on in there  ;D

Connected OK to practice server all working, I remember Jovite from my GPL days  ;D

Just need to sort out the steering with my g27

I wouldn't bore you any time with the same request, but if it's possible could you please start the race with the "usual" (for me :)) 5 minutes dalay? If not it doesn't matter. I will try to be on time at least for the last 5 mins of qualy to join the server. We should be 3 VDA for this time, maybe 4. There will be enough room in your server? I see the numbers are increasing rapidly with the P&G 3, and this is an extremely good news :)

Thank you in advance :)

Nobody complained last time I started the server a bit late, but this is one of Tony's
so it's his shout.

No probs. Race announcement revised to suit.

Sorry guys - another miss for me  :(

Have to think about more important things - sorry to say.

I'm working for a temporary employment agency and have been informed
today that my voluntary labor stint in the very same company will end at the
end of this year after 2 years and 7 months. So from 01 January possibly or
hopefully a new voluntary labor stint but that means less money anyway and
yet again.

No concentration and pleasure for racing tonight.

Have fun!

Sorry to hear that Kurt.

Good luck with the job hunt.

It's just frustrating to drive with a Thrustmaster after 1 year of G25... I won't race anymore til I buy a new wheel.

Hope to see you soon. :)

Good but tough race. Thought I would finish higher up the leader board based on my praccy times only to turn up and find my 1:59s ko'd by the prima Italia liga doing 1:56s  :(

Got jumped off the line by young loynes and battled with him for first 10mins then an o/steer half spin dropped me back 8 secs and behind Matt. Then sat on matts bumper for ages unable to get past on this tight track and losing time. He then ran wide and I set off after loynes junior again. Closed down the 8 secs to 2 then 1 the promptly lost the rear on a kerb. ::) kept it pointing forward but left another 8 sec gap and also dropped place to a late charging Stig.
Finished up 8th with worn meds and hot brakes  :)

Replay and results now posted

Nice turnout once again  ;D

Those devilishly fast Italians were back, and hopefully you guys will join more races in the next season.

I deliberately started from the back of the grid in order to stay out of any possible war of positions on lap 1.
I worked my way up, and had some great racing chasing Matt, Mark and finally teammate Simon. All very clean and fair. I look forward to the finale and a duel with Matt and Tony at Trois Riviere. If I'm not mistaking that is a city track, and those Are my favourites  ;D

Stig

That will be hard going Manteos.  What has happened to your G25?  Can it not be mended?

I managed to show a clean pair of heels to Tudor in qually but on race rubber it was a different matter.

The Italian contingent vanished into the distance, taking Geoffers with them, and at first I thought that I had the measure of Tudor.  But I was wrong.

He started to gain on me after a few laps and was with me “on and off” for the rest of the race.  We had a good race and thankfully he dropped it a couple of times, which gave me some breathing space.

Grats to the podium.

Think we need a separate car list for Italians!

Quite happy that I was at least somewhere near the Italian aliens in qually, although Daniele was in a different class.

Got a good start & went for a gap between Manteos & Massimo but it closed up & I had to drop into 4th place. I expected them to pull away (Daniele did) but as it turned out I was able to stay with M & M without too much problem. Unfortunately about the 9th lap I missed my brake point at T2 & spun, lost about 7-8s but didn't damage the car. A few laps later Manteos spun coming out of the final turn & I sailed by into 3rd place. Tried hard but could only knock a tenth or two off the gap to Massimo so finished a happy 3rd.  8)

Don't know what tyres everyone else used, but I threw caution to the wind & used the softer ones, they seemed to last quite well even though wear was up over 40 on the fronts at the end!  :o

Congrats to Daniele & Massimo.  :clap: :clap:

Ah, so the softs did last? Bugger I changed to the meds at last moment after seeing the wear on my soft fronts after only 4 laps of qually. As a result I never once broke into the 59's during the race despite doing it regularly in practise. Even with meds I finished with 24 front wear.

It was a second hand G25 from my VDA mate Ayrton, and after 4 years and a half, it naturally died. The inside plastic body was cracked, and the damned little plastic wheel that the sensor needs to calibrate the wheel was broken in 3 pieces. I tried in every way to disassemble and reassemble it, but it didn't do anything.

The Thrumaster f430 is not fun at all, and after 2 years all the buttons are gone. Paddles are gone, and I had only 2 working buttons for shift up/down, placed both on the left side of the wheel. I was becoming crazy and justa a little nervous.

About the race, I can only say grats to Geoffers for the good pace showed during the race doing an hazard with the tyres ;) Daniele and Massimo, like me, were on the harder Dunlop 184, a good compromize between performance and resistance here. Just think that with the 270° wheel the tyre wear increases rapidly compared to a 700° rotation, and I was near 2 of tyre wear every lap on my xd.... so I had no other chances. Massimo is more "dirty" than me when driving, and this car needs to be driven very clean to get the best performance on it, and daniele, that is one of the fastest driver with P&G was really impressive in his pace :o Good Job for the VDA guys anyway.
I really hope that Santa will bring me a new wheel.... I just miss the racing mood of P&G.... What a pity, 3 years for the release, and a broken wheel after 1 month by the release... :(

Cu :)

A nice race with Clive, although I never really managed to get myself into a position where I could make a clean move. Tried to sell the dummy a couple of times in the hope of distracting him, but he was far too experienced for that  ;)

Rubber held up ok, I was on the harder dunflops and had around 20 wear by race end.

Sorry to hear your troubles Manteos. I had a G27 go bad and bought a used DFGT to last me until I decided on a replacement.....I'm still using it and pretty happy tbh :) The pedals are carp, but I use CSPs anyway.

Well done those fast Italians and to Geoffers for excellent pace too.

I really don’t get this 700 degree wheel rotation thing!

I currently use 300 degrees on my G25 and if I use anything other than maximum “LOCK” in the car setup I just motor straight off the circuit on the outside of the first corner.

When people send me setups with 12 degrees "LOCK", I smash straight into the pit wall trying to get out of the garage!
Mike (McLowry) tried to explain it to me recently but whilst it almost made sense, the testing still didn’t get me around a lap!

If using 700 degrees of rotation would have allowed me to use one set of 970s for the race then I want some.  Can someone please explain it to me.

PS @ Manteos Do you have any photos of the broken bit?  I once mended the analogue padle quadrant on a Thrustmaster.

I will try to be understandable in my explanation Clive.

First of all P&G 3 is meant to be used with a 900° rotation of the wheel with the max steer lock ratio you can select in the setup menu (that depends by the car you choose). It's not an axiom, but it will makes the driving experience much more immersive and realistic. After all these cars are not GT, that use 400/450° of wheel rotation in real GT modern races.
However, using 900° and max steer lock ratio in game, you will need to cross your arms to deal with a hairpin bend at very low speeds. To make an example, you will have to turn almost all the wheel up to the 900° to manage to "close" a corner like the Loews bend at Montecarlo without crashing on the guard rail.

"When people send me setups with 12 degrees "LOCK", I smash straight into the pit wall trying to get out of the garage!"
This is true when you're talking about the pit garage exit. I lowered the steer lock ratio even to 11.0 before yesterday's race, and I had to leave the garage making some drift to avoid the wall, but this happens only at really low speeds, like that you have when you're leaving the garage.

This is the issue Clive. Less is the rotation you use on your wheel, and more is the precision required in your driving. If you add to a low rotation of the wheel (like 300°) a higher steer lock in game, you will need to be even more accurate (or precise... you choose) when you turn your wheel to do a corner. It will be difficult to explain it for me in english, but I'll try anyway ;)
In your case, with only 300° of rotation, I would have chose a steer lock in game in a range between 10. - 13.0 not more. I'll try to explain why.
I don't know which was your steer lock for the race yesterday, but I assume you were on a higher value than 14. This fact means that you were absolutely able to exit from the garage without issue, but when you were driving your tank on the track, you should have experienced a lot of understeer in cornering, and a lot of overseteering when you were pushing on the throttle coming out by a corner with your wheel turned. These things makes the driving more difficult for a series of reason:
- ULTRA SENSIBLE wheel. You're practically driving a Formula 1 car.
- No feeling of tyre behaviour with sudden understeer/oversteer reaction of your car
- You will have to use only a very little part of the entire 300°, cause if your arms turn too much degrees of the wheel when you turn into a corner, you will experience understeer, that becomes oversteer when you're coming out of a corner pushing on the throttle.

That will be the most difficult to explain... I have to use a bit of math, but I'll try.
I would like to know which steer lock you were using yesterday, but for the moment I will make just an example, and I will assume you were using 16. We need a comparison between G25 and Thrumaster, by a simple mathematical proportion. We need to find the right steer lock in game, that is our unknown quantity (X).
These are the data at our disposal: Max thrustmaster rotation degree (270) - Max G25 rotation degree (900) - Max steer lock of the car (for the Falcon Sprint is 34.5) - Steer lock used in setup (X) ?
Translated in numbers:
270 : 900 = X : 34.5 => (270 x 34.5)/900 = 10.35
Premise that GTR does not work exactly in this way, cause the game does not follow a linear progression, this is surely a good approximation of the range value you shoud use to have the best gettable experience in your driving. In this case, with my Thrustmaster, I shoud have used a steer lock inside this range (9 to 12). I opted for 11 just cause I didn't want to be bothered to do a manouvre using the reverse gear to leave my garage.

In your case the proportion changes in this way:
300 : 900 = X : 34.5 => 11.5
So your "right" steer lock value should have been in this range (10 to 13) approximately to exploit at best your G25.

Now, if you selected a value over the 13, your car should have been ultra responsive, and you would have experience some of the issues I explained before.

Comparing the results under the hypotesys you selected a value of 16 for the steer lock, we obtain this:
My case:
270 : 900 = 11 : 34.5 => 0,94 circa

Your case
300 : 900 = 16 : 34.5 => 1.40 circa

If you want to give a meaning to the 2 values, they show how much is the distance by the best gettable precision obtainable by your wheel. The perfect value should be 1 of course.
In few words, if you compare 0.94 with 1.40 it means that you had almost 50% less of degrees at your disposal to be more precise in your driving. I will do another example, than finally I should have finished  ;D

If the game "believes" that you have to turn your wheel of about 120° to do a corner, you will have a range near that value in which the game will "save" you from understeer/oversteer if you turn it a little more or a little less degrees. If we set that range in a + 5°/-5°, you will not have to do any correction on your wheel to do that corner if you are in this range. So, if you turn the wheel between 115° and 125°, your car will not have any bad reaction. In my case, that range will enlarge of about the 50% more than yours, so the game will consider correct if I turn my wheel in a range of about 112.5° and 127.5°.
That means that you have less margin of error compared to me, and your drive needs to be extremely precise, or you will be always fighting with understeer/oveersteer, that means more corrections on your wheel and more countersteer all over the places.
The more degrees you will use on your profiler (combined with the right value of the steer lock), less will be the precision you will need to drive, and you'll have a bigger margin of error.

Now, if you want to follow my suggestion, try to familiarize with a higher wheel rotation. I always used 708° with my G25 since I started to test the P&G 3, and usually the right steer lock ratio combined with 708° is between 25 to 28, even if it depends by the car, and by the max steer lock value. That will help you to have a better tyre wear, a better car control, and probably better performance. I know for my past experience, that it won't be easy to change your mind about this, cause I spent almost a month to re-learn to drive when I passed from a 270° wheel to a 900°, and now I'm finding really frustrating to re-learn to drive with 270°, so I won't race anymore with this toy for kids. When you get used to do it, I'm sure your fun will increase rapidly.

It has been a difficult thing to explain, and I hope to have been enough clear guys. I have a bad headache at the moment  ;D ;D
 
Cu :)

Thanks Manteos.

I will have the headache by the time I have understood it.

My "LOCK" is always Max.  34.5 in this case.   ;D

I still do not understand what this "LOCK" figure is but I will experiment further.

I have already adopted your 700 degree rotation, but still with 34.5 LOCK, and had a try at St Jovite.  I found that I had to soften the front springs and damping to be able to turn into the corners.

I have no picture in my head for what LOCK can be if reducing it is going to help the car to turn.

Jury is still out.

;D

Practically with 300° and 34.5 of steer lock, you were driving a go kart instead of a big V8  ;D


Now comes the hard part Clive. You will have to get used with the new settings. Consider that if you passed from a configuration with 300° and 34.5 steer lock, to a 700° and a 34.5 steer lock, you will need necessarily to turn your wheel a lot more than you did in advance. Your feelings about the physic of the car will change, but you should be able to feel the behaviour of your car much more better.
Just don't give up after a few attempts, caus as I said, now comes the difficult, and it will take some practice to get used to the new settings ;)

Never give up mate! :)

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/PnG/GTR2_stjovitegp_2012_11_29_20_50/)

Apologies for the erratic start. Had to park the car pronto because real life intervened.
Hope I didn't cause any mishaps.

Thanks Alex.

Have moved my attention on to Albert Park in the Capri and 700 / 28 is providing something driveable but with the default setup I have only managed 2:12.

That means that Tudor, who I raced with here in St Jovite, is now 4 seconds up the road!     :-[

Didn't spot you on the grid Burt? 

why 700 deg and not 900? Ive been using 900 for a few years now. It feels much more natural with the countersteering and steering input etc in P&G  :)

I took the Mustang which seems to be a poor choice, could have and should have taken the Flacon, ah well

MY G25 and G27 both stop turning the car's steering at the point where the wheel becomes more resistive
there is a definate step from easy to turn to hard to turn, when it gets there turning it more does nothing
in game, the car is at full lock. so I run 15 deg or so in the settings. One of the wheels in either GTL or PG
can;t remember which likes 30 deg or so, but still doesn't seem to to do anything if I turn the wheel
past the "step"

I told you in advance that I don't use the Max Steer Lock in game, but I would have used a value in a range between 25 to 28 with 708

Retsarting from math proportion:
708 : 900 = X : 34.5 => X = 27.14. So I was correct when I told you that I would have used a value in that range (25 - 28)

I noticed that I did a mistake when I told you in my previous post that the "The perfect value should be 0 of course.". The perfect value should be 1 OF COURSE ;D, if we want to base this issue on a linear proportion.

Now, assuming I would have choose 27.0 of steer lock in game, we obtain
708 : 900 = 27 : 34.5 => 1, 005 That is approximable to 1.

Is for that reason that I don't use all the 900 °. I have to assume that MJ used 900° and 34.5 Steer Lock in game, or he would have expereinced a lot of understeer when turning the wheel. I did try to drive with 900° in the first period, but I had to turn my wheel more than I would have expected to let the car turning in. Evenmore, as I said before, you will never need to use all the 900° rotation to do a corner, except for the Loews or something similar. Practically Mark, we are in the same situation, but you have to turn your wheel very slightly more than me to do a corner, cause as I said in my previous post, GTR2 does not respect the linear proportion of my example, but it is surely a really good approximation to understand the importance of the rotation degrees/steer lock combo. Evenmore, there are some cars in P&G that are caracterized by a lower value of Max Steer Lock (The Porsche 2.8 and 3.0 if I'm not worng have that value setted on 23, and some other cars too). With that cars, I experienced even more understeer that in the case of cars with an higher value of Max Steer Lock.

These 2 values (rotation degrees in G25 profiler and Steer Lock in game) work in pairs, and once you choose the rotation degrees that you prefere in a range between 650° - 900°, you have just to adjust the steer lock in game. After a bit of practice, you will find this value without the calculator, but only judging by your sensibility of driving. Is for this reason that I'm talking about a range, cause there aren't magic numbers that will auto-pilot your car, but that is the range you should use to have the better response by your wheel, needing less precision on your driving.

I don't know if I understood what Matt said, but before I would need to know which rotation degrees you used on your G25 profiler combined with your 15 deg of steer lock.
I can just say, if i understood a bit, that it's normal what you say. In a real car, if you are too fast when approaching a corner, you can follow to turn your wheel as long as you want in the direction of the corner to get the car turn in, but the response of the car would not be to close the line at the apex. You would just experience understeer, and your car would go wider and wider when you pass the "step" of max resistance of your tyres (that you feel handling your wheel which will become "lighter"), and your car will start to slide outside from the ideal line. However, I need an "Italian user friendly" explanation Matt, cause I really doubt I get what you were saying  ;D. However If I may venture an explanation, I would think that you used too much steer lock, comparing it to the rotation degrees you had set on the profiler. I will wait your data anyway ;).

Don't take my explanation as the Bible of P&G  ;D, but I just invite you to try to apply these simple proportions and find the right steer lock range value to use in every car. Once you're in the range, you will be able to exploit your 900° wheel at the best. The champion of ROTW P&G World Tour champ, use to drive with a bit higher rotation degrees than me in the profiler, but never over the 800°. It's a matter of turning the wheel in a more natural way, and as MJ said, "It feels much more natural with the countersteering and steering input etc in P&G". AMEN ;D

Stupid work got in my way, was actually gonna be home early for once but still got tired up at work, and when I got back I couldn't get in as it was too late :(
Was so looking forward to this...

Thanks Matteo, I am not aware that I am using a G25 profiler, I just use them "out of the box" as they come.
And when I turn my G2X wheel(s) more than 90 deg it (They) becomes heavier to turn.
There is a sort of "step" where the wheel becomes harder to turn after 90 deg turn.
I have FFB at very low level, just a bit of self centre is all I want.
I don't really mind as I don't want to be turning the wheel much more than that anyway.
Maybe 120 deg would be nice, but not any more than that.
I have to set the in game steering angle to 15 deg or it is much too high geared
go-kart style.

Matt, I should understand that you never modified your G25/27 profiler since you bought them. Now, if you didn't, the default value is set on 300° of rotation.
Now, your case reflect what I told to Clive in my example of using 300°, with the difference that you used 15 deg of steer lock in game, instead of Clive's 34.5. So, comparing these 2 case, you were surely in a better condition than Clive, cause his wheel was really ULTRA ULTRA and ULTRA AGAIN... RESPONSIVE.

Now, I invite you to open your G25 profiler, and go to the "Global Device Settings" menù.
Leave the first 3 voices (Force feedback device settings) as they should be setted by default (100%).

Do NOT ENABLE the Spring centering strenght, cause GTR2 will do it automatically.

Than you have another sub-menu (Steering wheel settings). Leave the combined pedal box UNTICKED. Than at the voice "Degrees of rotation", put the value at 708° (or 706°... I don't remember which one is possible).

Leave the box "Allow game to adjust settings" UNTICKED, than apply the changes and close your profiler.

The effect you were feeling about the wheel, is due only to low rotation degrees, and a too high steer lock in game. Now, I can assure you, that even if you set the rotation degree up to 700° you will never use all the 350° at your disposal to the left or to the right. You will use always less than half of it even to do a corner with an angle of 90° at a speed near 65-70 km/h.
The only issue is when you're leaving the garage. As in real life, it's normal that if you're parking the car, you will exploit all the 900° to do a manouvre at a very low speed, or your car will simply not turn at all. Once you leave your garage, I bet that you never used 900° to do any kind of corner around 60/70 km/h with all your wheel turned til it locks, or you would have surely crashed into the wall! In GTR2 is exactly the same, but with the difference that you can adjust the steer lock to be able to turn even with a wheel that have only 300°.

When I say to you that I use 700° on my profiler, that means that physically, I never use more than 150° to do any kind of corner, so in reality, I'm exploiting only 300° physically... If I'm racing at MonteCarlo, I would just increase about 1 or 2 deg. the steer lock in game to have less problem when I do the Loews, but this is the only case in which I use more steer lock than it would be needed in every other place! I just don't like to cross my arms to do such a corner, and I can exploit this little help in game not to be bothered by this kind of issue.

So, if you want to follow what I said, try to use this settings for the next race.

Put the rotation degrees at 708° on G25 profiler, than go into the game, and use a range between 26 and 29 of steer lock for Capris and BMW, that have the max steer lock at 34.5
Change the steer lock in a range between 21 and 24 if you're going to use the Porsche, cause it get a max steer lock fixed at 28.5. These are the right range to use for 708° on these cars.

DO NOT USE the Speed sensitive steering in game! If you do it, the more you increase the %, the more you will have to turn your wheel. Some italians use the speed sensitive steering at a low value (usually from 10 to 20%), and this will help you slightly more to have less tyre wear, but you will have to turn your wheel a little more than you do normally especially for the fast corners. It feels a bit unnatural to me, and it doesn't change the things too much about the tyre wear.

I hope to have been clear Matt :)

Thanks Matheos.

Applied the wheel settings.

Now for some practice...