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Title: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: vosblod on November 10, 2011, 01:12:40 AM +0000
We're off to Canada for race two with Beefpie leading the table.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_Gpg
IP address = 62.195.32.131
Race Date = 13-11-2011
Race Time =  race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying time = 30 - 60 minutes (ie no later then 21:00)
Track = Mosport
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 36)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the Works (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=337&theme=6) championship standings page.
The track can be downloaded from : papy original
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2168  or 3099 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2168  or 3099)
Reserve Drivers =  You must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes, to allow full timers to join (note this requirement is currently suspended for the Works competition)
Reported incidents modded
Full moderation of lap one red zone

LAP ONE RED ZONE: Full moderation from race start to end of Moss corner

Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by FULL moderation of the lap one Red Zone (see above) plus any other reported incidents, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the Works (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=337&theme=6) championship standings page. Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

REPLAYS
Works is automatically posted at http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/ (http://grandprix.xs4all.nl/) . When downloading please check the timetable for other races and DO NOT download while another race is being run.


The track was designed and built in the late 1950s, and held its first major race in 1961, the Player's 200, a sports car race bringing drivers from the world over to rural Ontario. Stirling Moss won the event in a Lotus 19. The proposed hairpin was expanded into two discrete corners, to be of greater challenge to the drivers and more interesting for the spectators, at his suggestion, and is named Moss Corner in his honour. This is a source of lingering confusion as many people call the track Mossport. It has had a succession of owners since the original public company created to build the track. Mosport achieved acclaim though a series of international sports car races under the title "Canadian Grand Prix" normally reserved for Formula 1 races. F1's Grand Prix of Canada remained at the track until 1977.
Unlike many historic motorsport venues, Mosport's track layout has remained mostly unchanged from its original form.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: fpolicardi on November 12, 2011, 06:07:10 PM +0000
T7_2 and GPG servers are set to 36 laps Long race.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: vosblod on November 12, 2011, 11:37:13 PM +0000
Many thanks as usual Fulvio


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on November 13, 2011, 09:51:50 PM +0000
What a c**p weekend. Qual'd 5th for this and PSC race, didn't finish either. In the case of Mosport some t**t in a van was delivering something to my neighbour...at 9:40 on a Sunday!! He clearly wasn't too pleased about it either cos he slammed the back shutters down with such force I cr**ped myself.....just when I had to be focussing on braking for entry to Moss.....sorry to whoever hit me on the outside as I lay there with (as it turned out) 3 wheels, but you came across me just as I'd come to a halt and I was trying to work out if I still had a functioning car....

Apols for all the ** but I'm **** **** ******* ******* !!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: Samb on November 13, 2011, 10:06:49 PM +0000
The first race; a crash. The second; a disconnect. Seems me and the Works never get along  :(. Well, onwards and upwards.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: Podkrecony_Ziutek on November 13, 2011, 10:25:31 PM +0000
Well, it wasn't the return I was hoping for.

sorry to whoever hit me on the outside as I lay there with (as it turned out) 3 wheels, but you came across me just as I'd come to a halt and I was trying to work out if I still had a functioning car....

Apols for all the ** but I'm **** **** ******* ******* !!


No problem Arf. I also made mistake there. I've went a little bit to wide into corner, unfortunately you were already there. Well that's racing and things like that do happen sometimes ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: Artiglietti on November 13, 2011, 10:51:31 PM +0000
Had a couple of coming togethers with Malcom, sorry for that M, I think probably the first one is more on you, and the second more on me, but overtaking here is often going to be an inch from disaster. Really sorry for Johnny who for no fault of his own got involved at Moss and damaged his engine, and he had let me by just a few corners before  :( ! Thank you for that anyway.

 Not sure how my car stayed together after all those hits in the first 3 or 4 laps, but it did, probably it had all the suspensions symmetrically bent  ;D. Glad to have finished my first pro race, albeit a lap down  :-[. Thanks for the racing, see you at the next one.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: BadBlood on November 14, 2011, 12:25:08 AM +0000
Replay is available for download by clicking here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season22/Grads_Works/S22_Grads_Works_R02_2011_11_13_Mosport.rar)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: ivandjj on November 14, 2011, 11:29:48 AM +0000
First laps were quite crowded, it seemed that i'm near the back of the tight train from 5th or so to 12th. But after a while, when Fulvio passed Hiro, i found myself trapped between two BRMs while most of the train disappeared off into the distance or off the track.

Being stuck alone with BRMs made me feel uneasy, so i left them to themselves and went off grass and gravelcutting at the end of the long straight. Can't believe that i made oh so rookie mistake by trying to outbrake Hiro round the outside there.

Some laps later i'm back where we started, 2 secs behind Hiro when i dropped it a bit and lost contact again.

On the last lap i'm again where we started, 2 secs behind Hiro. Going into Moss, there was Leader lapping Hiro and Hiro lapping Hannah, so i tried to get close to take advantage of the traffic jam. But just managed to trip myself over Hannah, sorry for that, my fault. And finished, yes you guessed it, 2 secs behind Hiro.

Anyway, my speed and consistency wasn't too bad, just need to acclimatise myself again to actually closely racing somebody.

I won't rant any more about Dragon's Nest, but i can say that i raced on another total fantasy track which i liked. It's called Jops Siffert, did you ever use it in UKGPL?

http://www.f1legends.ch/update/circuits/jops.php


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: Podkrecony_Ziutek on November 14, 2011, 11:46:25 AM +0000
I won't rant any more about Dragon's Nest, but i can say that i raced on another total fantasy track which i liked. It's called Jops Siffert, did you ever use it in UKGPL?

http://www.f1legends.ch/update/circuits/jops.php

Yes we did:

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6651#event1854 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6651#event1854)
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9747#event2662 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9747#event2662)

The last race of Pros will be at Jops as well ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: EvilClive on November 14, 2011, 01:11:39 PM +0000
As the lone Waza and Honda driver against a sea of Brabhams, this race was not looking good. Several of the recent converts to WORKS are finding some serious pace and the qually times at the front of the grid were very close and very fast!!!
I think I managed a 10th place?? on the grid behind a lot of green stuff with occasional splash of red. The start allowed me to jump one place as a BRM bogged down and I was on to the tail of a Cooper ( Ronnie?? I think) who was trying to be safe and cautious on his cold tyres it seemed.
He was driving defensively and fairly around most of the track and I could see no way past without risking both of our cars, but on the straight the glorious Honda engine had horses to spare over that puny Italian lawnmower. I was eager to get past him because I could see the gaggle of Brabs easing away into the distance.
 The first time I lined up a pass I think Ronnie was not expecting me to be that close and I had to back off to avoid the chance of a wheel on the grass or contact. But the next lap I got the exit from Moss that I wanted and picked up the tow early, so that as we crested the first rise I was going for the pass. I have yet to look at the replay, but I think it was a question of whose nerve held for the braking over that last hump. I could not see Ronnie, as he was in my blind spot, and tried to take a risky wide line to allow him some room on the inside. I saw a flash of green in my mirrors, but it was heading into the countryside and not following the tarmac!!.
I hope that I was not guilty of any contact Ron?
Next up were a couple of spinners at T3 and Moss which promoted me to 5th place  ;D. By now Fulvio, who had started at the back of the grid was winding up his Red thing and started to close the gap from behind. Once again the awesome power of the Honda gave me breathing space on the straight, but each lap Fulvio closed up as we approached Moss. This continued for several 100% laps until Fulvio made a mistake at T2 and went grass cutting on the hill.
After that the race got rather lonely and my concentration went at about half distance where i could not string a proper lap together and had 3 spins. A swift kick up my own backside, and I settled back into a steady pace to the finish. Another retirement when Raonni blew himself up on the last lap allowed me to creep up to 4th spot and steal more points than I expected from this round.

Grats to Joe for some stunning pace and to Raonni for FL ( and blowing his engine in the process  ;) ) It looks like there is some very serious talent at the fast end of the Works this season and there should be some very close racing  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: vosblod on November 14, 2011, 02:11:37 PM +0000
Results uploaded. Any incident reports by close of play Friday please.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: Al Heller on November 14, 2011, 03:21:16 PM +0000
Can't say I like racing at Mosport much although it does seem to have been kind to me over the seasons. Very close qually across the grid - I was holding onto 2nd place until the end of the session when Bob snatched it by a whopping 0.007! Start was clean & I was pleased to be able to hang onto Joe & Bob for the first quarter of the race -then had a very near miss when I crested the hill at T4 to find Bob's car was in the process of transforming itself into a flaming pile of scrap - slammed on the brakes & squeezed through the inferno by the skin of my teeth... After that I had a very fast Doni on my tail & was having to push hard to stay ahead which is never comfortable at this track as the margins for error are so narrow. After what must have been half the race locked in a standoff with Doni, I glanced at Prib to see that something must have happened to him & now Raoni was some 12 seconds behind in 3rd. Any hopes for a nice relaxing drive to the flag were dispelled when I realised Raoni was going like a rocket in pursuit :hammer: so I needed to work really hard just to try & maintain a gap. Bad luck to Raoni for the engine blow right at the very end & congrats to Joe & Doni for the podium. Special thanks to the guys being lapped for making room  - not easy at this circuit.      


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: Ronniepeterson on November 14, 2011, 04:54:25 PM +0000
I hope that I was not guilty of any contact Ron?

Hi Clive. You made a good pass and as you made your getaway, I simply ran out of room and off the track by sticking to a line which was always going to close. No problem as far as I am concerned, just glad I did not spear you off track, well done on the 4th spot.

As for me driving like a carthorse early on, what do you expect from an Italian in a wheezing Cooper!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: Baab on November 14, 2011, 09:42:20 PM +0000
Gutted to take an early bath on this one, but from my praccy I have to say it was on the cards!!  Disappointed since I have managed to finish most races recently...though not without incident.  From the replay I dropped down to 3rd on entry to the 4th corner and the back came round, I was on full opposite lock before it bit back and went into that b@$*@!d barrier!  For a sec I thought I'd got away with it, but then the car flipped and a wheel came off before it rather impressively burst into flames!!!  Sorry to create an obstacle, for a sec I tried to drive it off the track as then engine still seemed to be working!!!

Well done to all the finishers, I need to learn to calm down  :o

Bob.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: JonnyO on November 15, 2011, 12:48:53 AM +0000
 ( Artiglietti no problem) :laugh:

 The Coyote team has not had a good day.

 Jonny was in an accident shortly lap3.
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5981/uk3laps.jpg)


And Raoni had an engine failure on the last lap.
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4168/uk36lap.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: Doni Yourth on November 15, 2011, 02:29:49 AM +0000
WOOOHOOO!!!  My first UKGPL podium!  But I'm under no illusion that it was anything but luck that got me home to P3.

Grats to Joe for putting on a clinic up front.  Lead all the way to score a fine victory.

Grats to Al for nailing down a most-worthy P2 and being in the hunt for all 36 laps.

When I joined the server, I checked the entry list to see whom was driving what.  As each entry popped into view, it was like Clive mentioned above: A sea of Brabhams.   :laugh:  Like a FoS for BT24's.

I must confess to wimping out in both qualifying and the race as I tackled many corners in 3rd gear when I know that I can changedown to 2nd.  More pace is possible in doing that but as I've found, it's not long before the Skid Demon claims me.  Better safe than sorry, I reasoned.  The torque modelled into the Repco V-8 is available over such a broad power band that you can get away with that strategy.

I took P6 on the grid just behind Raoni.  When the flag dropped, Ra didn't get a very good launch and I had a decent shot to slip by on his left and end up diving into T1 in P5.  Hmmm...  That made for Brabhams holding down the top five slots.  FoS indeed!   :)

L3 and with things fairly static, I came out of the chute with Triple A arcing into 5A just a handful of lengths in front of me.  Suddenly, I saw the back end of his BT24 breakaway and he spun off into the barrier.  I had just enough time to slow and cut a low line to avoid possible trouble.  Raoni, directly behind me, cottoned to this and followed me safely through.  Bart wasn't so lucky.  Just a few seconds behind Ra, he skated up wide through 5A and drilled Arf's parked car, nose-to-nose.  AAA was done on the spot and Bart could only manage a few more metres before retiring with a dud engine.  Scratch two Bt24's.

Raoni was an ever-present menace just off my tail and Al was just barely in sight about four seconds up the road in P3.  L6 and the tiniest placement error had Ra just catch the grass verge on the left for the entry to T3 and he spun off.  This left me clear to concentrate on getting down good laps and see if I could close on Al.  Joe and Bob were not that far up ahead either.  L8 and disaster for Bob.  I came down the chute to find a smoking, flaming wreck parked on the entrance to 5A.  As Bob explained above, it all went wrong in T4 and he was comprehensively carved up by the Armco on the right verge.  I can tell you that my eyeballs were out on stalks at the sight of this.  I slowed right down and tip-toed around the remains.  Bad luck, Bob.

This left me in P3 with Al about four to five seconds up the road in P2.  Things were going well in that at least I wasn't losing time to Al and even closed a bit here and there.  Til half-distance, L18.

I'd just lapped Tilio down in the hairpin...he kindly let me through without delay to the point that he ran right off the track in doing so!...and ripped up the back straight now just 2-1/2 seconds behind Al.  As I crested the yump, I saw that I was slightly misplaced.  Further, the car wavered slightly as I attempted to slow and I had to relax my braking.  I could see some three to four seconds before even leaving the road that I was done like dinner.  Nothing to do but hang on and hope the impact wouldn't cause major damage.  Off onto the grass and bing!, a ricochet off the fence.  As luck would have it, I was facing the wrong direction entirely and it took some time to get swapped about.  I knew that the Repco would more than likely give me fits trying to negotiate the grass so I quickly up-shifted to 2nd gear to reduce the torque input.  That seemed to work well and I got back onto the tarmac after dropping a bunch of time.  Raoni, long-since recovered from his earlier off, sifted by before I could regain the track to take over P3.  Tilio, following me up the back straight, had a sympathy spin with me and went off in T8 as well!

All this put me down about four seconds to Ra.  I knew I'd have a tough time catching him let along passing him.  In this last 1/2 of the race, my driving became ever scruffier.  On L28, I made a complete nonsense of my exit to hairpin at 5B and spun off.  Lucky to have ended up facing up-track.  Dropped about eight seconds in that gaffe to leave Raoni free and clear of any threat.  From this point on, I decided to settle for P4 and just stroke it home.

Mon Dieu!  What's this?  On the very last lap, I was just nicely up onto the back straight when I caught a flagger displaying the white flag.  Just caught sight of it at the last instant.  I lifted a bit to see what the trouble was and was astonished to flash by a red car on the right verge.  Ra?  Nah, couldn't be.  I crossed the S/F line and holy smokes, my pitguy flashed me P3!  It WAS Raoni!  In post-race chat, Ra revealed that the motor had blown sky-high coming out of the hairpin.  How cruel!  If the motor could have lasted another 10 seconds or so, he may have had enough momentum to free-wheel it in over the line for that P3.

Good to be back with the UKGPL after a two year absence.







Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 - Works (67) - Mosport - Nov 13
Post by: vosblod on November 25, 2011, 01:27:08 AM +0000
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